Law and Favors in the Bronx

Secret Tapes Catch Pols Speaking Their Minds

Espada: No. I wouldn't feel comfortable [inaudible]. Engel did well.

Ramirez: [Inaudible]. Everything is going well. Seabrook isn't running.

Espada: He's not? Nobody [inaudible] they won't take him seriously.

Pedro Espada Jr. taped Bronx Democratic Leader Roberto Ramirez and others talking about an investigation by District Attorney Robert Johnson.
Pedro Espada Jr. taped Bronx Democratic Leader Roberto Ramirez and others talking about an investigation by District Attorney Robert Johnson.

Ramirez: It's a good decision. He can't win . . . [inaudible] . . . [City Council member Larry Warden] wasn't going to win, either. I got your message . . . [inaudible]. Let's sit here. . . . I'm getting old.

Espada: Yeah [inaudible]. This is good.

Ramirez: You mind if I smoke?

Espada: [Inaudible] I was at the Yankee game.

Ramirez: You look composed [inaudible].

Espada: I'm very pissed. Johnson's harassing my goddaughter [inaudible] that's fucked up [inaudible] worst than fucking [ex-special prosecutor Ken] Starr [inaudible].

Ramirez: I was told everything was OK [inaudible]. The only condition was your withdrawal. Freddy knew it [inaudible] Johnson was told. Senator, the powers that be are on board.

Espada: Listen [inaudible]. They said don't trust you. I told my people based on what you said [inaudible]. I told them you said it was a big waste of time and money. Have you [inaudible]. You've been fucking with me.

Ramirez: No. No. I've spoken to the powers that be. Maybe they're fucking me too [inaudible]. If I can't get support, I'll retire too.

Espada: [Inaudible] I'm running.

Ramirez: No [inaudible]. That's not good.

Espada: I'm running and my brother is running.

Ramirez: With an indictment [inaudible].

Espada: With 10 indictments. We're running.

Ramirez: Don't make any final decisions on [inaudible]. I'm going to see my guy at Yankee Stadium tomorrow. He'll tell me [inaudible]. I'll find out.

Espada: What guy, Roberto? It's late [inaudible].

Ramirez: The intermediary [inaudible]. I've got a license, man [inaudible]. I worked hard for it, I've got to be careful [inaudible]. If I can't turn it around, the fight will be clean [inaudible]. They'll [sic] be no dirt about the indictment [inaudible]. You've been a gentleman [inaudible]. This is bad for business.

Espada: Roberto [inaudible]. Have a good meeting tomorrow.

Ramirez: We still may be able to get lucky.

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