Candid Camera

Talking with Albert Maysles, co-creator of the first feature documentary

An instructor in psychology at Boston University in the early 1950's, Albert Maysles saw his life changed with the invention in 1960 of handheld sync sound cameras, which reduced the size of a documentary crew to two, enabling unprecedented intimacy. He and his brother David Maysles created classics such as 1968 Salesman, the first feature documentary. 1976's Grey Gardens, now the basis for a musical at Playwrights Horizons, will be re-released this year on DVD with an hour and a half of previously unseen outtakes. Maysles is currently at work on several projects, including a new Maysles Films Institute in Harlem.

How was your experience as a salesman? The first house that I came to the first day that I was selling the Encyclopedia Americana, I completely forgot my whole pitch. The woman said, "Do you have it with you?" and I said, "Oh yeah." She said, "Why don't you read it?" So I read it and she bought it. That's a model for my relationship with people when I make a documentary. People let you into their lives the way this woman let me into her house and they're so kind to me.

Do you ever think about taboos? In our culture, we fear getting too close.

"Television people still haven't caught up."
photo: Kendall Messick
"Television people still haven't caught up."

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