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Girls to Men

Young lesbians in Brooklyn find that a thug's life gets them more women

At the Lab, a Brooklyn nightclub and rental hall, a petite Hispanic bartender sporting braids down the middle of her back and a baseball cap is taking a break on a recent Friday night. Then she spots something in the crowd and leaps onto the bar. She sees another woman dressed in boyish hip-hop gear hitting on her femme girlfriend on the crowded dance floor. The bartender jumps to the floor, pushes her way past dancers, and grabs her woman by the arms. After giving her a rough, disapproving shake, she drags her quarry back to the bar, where the girlfriend will remain standing in silence the rest of the night.

Chick Murda, a/k/a Aisha Sampson, was an assistant teacher at an elementary school, but just started a job working for the state of New Jersey. “A lot of females like the way I carry myself, my swagger,” she says.
photo: David Yellen
Chick Murda, a/k/a Aisha Sampson, was an assistant teacher at an elementary school, but just started a job working for the state of New Jersey. “A lot of females like the way I carry myself, my swagger,” she says.

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"It's a property thing," explains Siya, who, like the bartender, looks like she's walked out of a rap video. Among the 15 tattoos that adorn her beige complexion are a large Bed-Stuy on her forearm and Brooklyn on the back of one hand. She's 20. "You can be holding your femme girlfriend's hand in the club, and she could be looking around, searching for a flyer AG. She's going to want to stray, slip her a number. All lesbians are sneaky," Siya says.

At the weekly 18-and-over females-only hip-hop party going on, about half of the black and Hispanic crowd is femme, the other half "AGs," or "aggressives," who also refer to themselves as "studs," whether they're fly or not.

Later, when two AGs get into a pushing match over a femme, one shouts, "Suck my dick, nigga! I'll fuck your whole shit up!" Friends break it up, pulling one outside the club to get the story. One of the women had tried to talk to the other's girlfriend while her back was turned. But it's a common occurrence. No femme, committed or not, is really off-limits.

"When you go to the club and you're an AG, your mission that entire night is to find the baddest femme in the club and make her your girl," says another woman, who calls herself Don Vito Corleone. "Just like every rapper wants the baddest video chick on his arm, so do AGs."

Rap videos have long provided men of color with milestones on their journeys to manhood. From being a successful street businessman (Notorious B.I.G.'s "Ten Crack Commandments"), to learning how to treat a woman (Dr. Dre's "Bitches Ain't Shit") and protecting their manhood (50 Cent's "What Up Gangsta?"), guys are told how to be indestructible, sexually assertive, and in general, badasses. The misogyny and homophobia implicit in that message has long raised the hackles of critics. Oprah Winfrey and columnist Leonard Pitts Jr. made news recently for saying "enough" to the influence of rap's rougher edges on black culture.

But for increasing numbers of very young black and Hispanic lesbians, the bitches-and-'hos lyrics of their musical heroes are the soundtrack for a thug's life they pursue with almost as much passion as they do the hottest femme in the club.

"These AGs have a disrespectful mentality, and they get it from men, hoodlums, dudes that are in the 'hood all day," says Kysharece Young, an AG, rapper ("Ky Fresh"), and freshman at Monroe College. "They act like a bunch of little damn boys that ain't got no sense."


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Rapper Siya is flanked by Vanessa Villot (left) and Ashanta Harrison. “It’s a property thing,” says Siya.
photo: David Yellen
In 2005, filmmaker Daniel Peddle chronicled the lives of AGs in his documentary The Aggressives, following six women who went to lengths like binding their breasts to pass as men. But Peddle says that today, very young lesbians of color in New York are creating a new, insular scene that's largely cut off from the rest of the gay and lesbian community. "A lot of it has to do with this kind of pressure to articulate and express your masculinity within the confines of the hip-hop paradigm," he tells the Voice.

As rap songs boom through the Lab's speakers on a Friday night, AGs dominate the place, shouting lyrics that objectify women as playthings. They point their fingers in the air to simulate gunfire, and throw down lyrics at other AGs like they were calling out rival gang members.

Like most men in the culture, young lesbians respect Jay-Z's business sense, consider themselves to be hustlers like Jeezy, and take the no-holds-barred approach of Lil Wayne. For these women, there seem to be few older lesbians they can look up to, or organizations that mean much to them, other than the crews they create themselves.

Among the older women who do make the scene, Kimmeee and Madison, lovingly called "Uncle" or "Father" by the younger women, promote the parties at the Lab and run girlzparty.com, the nexus for the black lesbian club scene. They say they've watched the change in younger women in the last few years.

"It gets rougher each year, and it has a lot to do with who their idol is and who they want to image themselves after, like these thug rappers," says Madison, who launched girlzparty.com 12 years ago.

"I wouldn't say there are too many [female] role models," says Kimmeee. "We get a lot of girls that come out and their idols are men and they feel like they have to be men."

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  • Nactressinmakin 12/28/2011 1:46:00 PM

    Yea cuz dat just dnt make no type of sense people need to grow da hell up!!

  • WiseWordz 12/11/2011 3:29:00 AM

    YES YES YES YES YES YES AND YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Get tired of hearing about the same ole same ole "thug Mentality" Aggressives! i mean much respect on those doing them but how in the heck are we going to PROGRESS as a Community and PROGRESS as a people if Studs/Aggressives are emulating thugs in the first place, emulating "NIGGAS" in the first place and emulating those that most Women "claim" they've always hated and therefore love Women. Much respect to Tupac and Biggie but young Women emulating THEM everyday and all day is driving themselves straight to an EARLY GRAVE! wha's wrong wit wantin to be with a Woman who is Business Professional who works for a Firm or in another Profession? Most Femmes love to be taken care of and many more idolize Jay-Z and PDiddy but they settle for those who prolly could only provide them wit heartbreak from landing in Jail from selling Drugs and i'm not downing anyone i'm just keepin it real on the fact that MORE OF OUR STUDS need to strive to BE BETTER and be all that they can BE and go for that High School Diploma and aim to get a good job even if its a regular office job just something besides Drugs and Jail time. what will be left of our Community if our people continue with thug life and club life?? I'm very proud of those who have relationships and struggle daily to maintain those relationships instead of giving up and falling into pettyness and i'm also proud to see many Stud/Femme couples actually getting Pregnant and having little ones as in Family......to me thangs get old and i'm just wondering how our "Community" will look like in the future. I want to be that attractive Aggressive who is Professional and who can provide for me and my Woman and our future seeds and be PROUD in knowing that i stepped up and played my part by BELIEVING that a lady should be treated like a lady and she should be able to handle her own as well as i provide for her but our life goes beyond Bitches, Whores, Niggas and Thuggery!

  • mizz fem 04/29/2010 10:34:00 PM

    i am a femme and date studs mostly but i don't agree that if your a femme and you are commited or not that you're not off limits. if you're with smebody then that means you are taken regardless.

  • Sheba Legend 07/23/2009 10:30:00 PM

    What happened to reporting on the Negro "Naturally Aggressive" woman who doesn't suffer from low self-esteem? You know the aggressor who lives her life as a woman but who is mistaken for ...? You know, US. The ones who don't idolize RAP or men who make reference to women as "Bitches, Whores, Sluts or a piece of Pussy. The natural, Beautiful, Gentle women who sit in board meetings, travel and carry a general concern for all human life? We are the same behind closed doors as we are outside of those doors. We button our collars from the top button down. We care about our health so, we have health club /Yoga memberships. Our friends are from all walks of life and Love us for being proactive in their lives... Let me know if you really wanna know what it is to be NEGRO, LESBIAN and AGGRESSIVE in AMERICA!!! NOT just in a rental hall in Brooklyn.

  • cheere 06/30/2009 5:59:00 AM

    yall shit is so dam suckish

  • Elaine Scott 02/07/2009 10:13:00 PM

    I happened to be browsing the web and came upon this blog on AG's and how they rep their sect. I must admit although I am a 45 year old 'Butch" ( I see nowadays Stud or AG would be politically correct) I was enlightened by what I read. It rang true to some of my own realities. I've been struggling for 2 years to find employment mind the fact that I am a certified Electrician. I have a college education. I have no problem in switching my vernacular to fit any situation that I'm in but no one is offering any interviews. When I do get employment it's for no longer than 3 months and I'm released on some bullshit or I'm disrupting the male flow of things once they realise I'm not a switch hitter. I have an androgynous look and a very strong male aura. I'm sometimes mistaken for a male.I wore my hair down to my butt in locks for 14 years and decided to cut them off for a short dark Caesar look (one might say that's why I'm not employed but I wasn't getting employment before I cut my hair)It's sad but true how some of these young lesbians are carrying themselves and I agree that if they had the proper role models to show and tell them there's a time and place for every thing they would think twice before feeding into the disrespectful ways in which they conduct themselves at social gatherings. You can get another fems attention if she's with someone else without being so fucking obvious about it. I feel that if your girl is truly true to you, no one can shake that foundation. If you got a bad ass bitch in your fold and worry about someone trying to hit on her, leave that ass home and go out with your homeys. You take the bad ass chick to the exclusive mature clubs and for those ruff and ready places like the Lab you take a ruff and ready chick. The next time I come upon one of those Boys to Men chicks I'll show some fatherly or uncle love.

  • marcelitte 11/12/2008 8:59:00 AM

    I just read your article �Girls to Men� and was deeply offended. As a black Lesbian I feel like this article has made sweeping generalizations and is perpetuating negative stereotypes about black lesbians. This is a misrepresentation of Black Lesbianism. This is Racist and homophobic specifying �rap video� Rap is associated with Black people �Bed-Stuy� is a community of predominantly African Americans. �Beige complexion� her skin color seems to be important to author. all racist statements. if this is a problem in this community, it is something we ourselves must deconstruct. When analyzed by outsiders it does not help the problem but instead give people outside the community stereotypes about how we are instead of judging people on a one on one basis. This article also demonstrates a complete lack of awareness for transgendered people. Many people that bind their breast down might not identify as women and should be asked, not assumed about. There are many other communities out there that have just as serious issues (frat boys and rape on college campuses for example). I just find it odd that this would now be an issue to be the analyzed. I am disappointed in the Village Voice for publishing such an article as the Voice was seen as one of the only progressive papers in New York City. I would appreciate an apology from the Voice and to see articles representing Lesbians of color in a positive light.

  • L 10/08/2008 5:41:00 AM

    Its sad to say that most of the things that were said about these ag's in this article are true. I wouldnt I am a 24 years old aggressive. I am a new york city bus operator, Ive been driving for about 3years. Ive done "the lab" and "lovergirl" and now I try to find the most "whitest" clubs i can find in and around the city to avoid the dumb pettiness. When you go to other clubs where theres not as many minorities you can drink and have fun w/o fights breaking out every couple of minutes.

 

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