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The NYPD Rips Up Rappers

Rebel Diaz and their hip-hop politics run afoul of the cops

On June 18, a pair of brothers named Rodrigo and Gonzalo Venegas decided to take a friend visiting from Chicago for a city tour. The brothers Venegas, who comprise two-thirds of the activist hip-hop group known as Rebel Diaz, are big on the Bronx, and one of the sites they wanted to show their pal was the wonderful wall mural dedicated to the late rapper Big Pun on Westchester Avenue in Hunts Point.

Gonzalo Venegas, 22, whose rap name is G1, tells what happened when they reached the corner of Westchester and Simpson Street: "We see police picking up boxes of street vendors' product and throwing it away. This one vendor was looking all bewildered and helpless. We approached him, and he says in Spanish that he doesn't understand why they are taking his stuff."

The pair asked the police if it was all right for them to translate. The cops, Gonzalo says, didn't seem to have a problem. One of the officers explained that there were health-department violations, but others became belligerent, he says, and told the brothers to butt out. This degenerated further when the brothers asked for badge numbers.

It is important here to understand that in addition to being rappers, the brothers Venegas—whose Chilean parents fled into exile after Pinochet's coup—are also organizers. In fact, the slogan of their group is: "If Hip Hop organized, the whole world would be in trouble." It is not a coincidence that one of their big tunes is a rap version of the old labor standard "Which Side Are You On?" This is sung with the familiar, ominous minor-key drone of the title, while hip-hop lyrics pound alongside: "This music is resistance/It's the voice of the poor." Rebel Diaz, which, along with G1, include 27-year-old Rodrigo ("RodStarz") and Teresita Ayala, a/k/a Lah Tere, see their music as an organizing tool. One of the areas they focus on is police behavior—hence the brothers' decision to ask about the officers' identities.

"This one officer started to get a little agitated," says Gonzalo. "He says, 'Back up. Get back on the sidewalk.' We said, 'Well, we will be on our way when we get the badge numbers.' One of them puts his hand over his badge so we couldn't see it. I pull out a piece of paper and a pen and begin to write down the number. At this point, the officer goes to grab my arm, and all of a sudden, there is this rush of police."

Thanks to the miracle of modern gadgetry, what followed was recorded by the friend from Chicago on the video device on his cell phone. The resulting video, visible on YouTube and the Rebel Diaz website, shows police grappling with the brothers, pinning them down, and cuffing them. "They were on top of me," reports Gonzalo. "One cop is sticking his knee on my back and jabbing me with his baton. That felt great."

The brothers insist they did nothing wrong: "At no moment did we physically try to obstruct them," says Gonzalo. "We were not belligerent, and we did not lay a hand on them."

The brothers were taken to the 41st Precinct, where they were held for 10 hours and charged with resisting arrest and obstruction of justice. If not for the video, the Venegases believe they would have been charged with assault, since one officer injured his hand during the arrests. Meanwhile, more than 150 protesters demonstrated outside the precinct. "When I found out they got arrested, I was like, 'What is going on?' " says Wanda Salaman, the executive director of Mothers on the Move, an organization that has worked with the rap group. "I know them. They are not troublemakers or gangbangers. What they do is help kids in the neighborhood use music to express themselves. They don't talk about killing or shooting everyone."

This incident might have quickly faded away, just another collision between police and the policed, if not for what occurred a few days later. At 2 a.m. on June 24, Gonzalo Venegas was up late working in his East Harlem apartment when four uniformed police officers burst past his unlocked door, guns drawn. The police ordered Venegas, his roommate, and a friend who was staying over onto the floor, shouting questions at them, according to Venegas.

"They were yelling, asking who we were, what we were doing, pointing the guns at us. They said, 'If we find out you are fucking lying . . .' It was like from a movie, except it was completely over the top. It seemed like a scare tactic." The police said they were in pursuit of a fugitive, but they didn't search the apartment and left after a few minutes.

The next day, Venegas called local precincts, where he was told no one had any knowledge of the raid. "It is hard to believe that what went down in my apartment is a coincidence," says Gonzalo. "Were they really looking for somebody? What we are into right now is not a joke."

At police headquarters, a spokesman said there were no 911 calls regarding Venegas's building that night and "no need for police activity at this location at this time." But he said he recognized the brothers as the same troublesome duo who had recently had a run-in with cops in the Bronx.

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  • Craig 08/08/2008 5:55:00 AM

    God bless the police for doing a job that's impossible. Policing neighborhoods that hate them and hate the law. The people in these neighborhoods hate law and order and idolize criminals. They get what they deserve. This "Rebel" person falls into two categories that should be arrested on sight as far as I'm concerned. "Rappers" and "activist". Give me a break.

  • Universal Indie Records 08/07/2008 12:01:00 AM

    John F., It's wrong to just write off people and automatically assume that those in a position of power are automatically right. I grew up in the projects in NYC so I know first hand how crooked SOME cops can be. This is not to say that all or even most are because there were a lot of cops that actually cared about making a difference and cared about the community, but there ARE ASSHOLES and I've seen it first hand. I've known people who were picked on as well after they've filed police reports as well. I've seen women with tight ass pants have their back pockets search for EGGS by male officers on Halloween among other stuff that I won't go into. People are people. During your daily life you probably come across people that are simply jerks and putting on a blue uniform doesn't negate that. By the same token I've seen people who know that they've done wrong cry innocent and act like they did nothing wrong when they damn well know that they did. It's a fine line to tote.. and people have to be willing to LISTEN without any preconceived notions. The police aren't always right... and the people on the streets aren't always wrong... and vice versa. Universal Indie Records http://www.universalindie.com

  • phillip Halsey 08/06/2008 9:13:00 AM

    the police want our kids out of control, so they can validate their jobs. your job is to infiltrate and destroy, move in stealth with respect and proper skill. confrontation leads to incarceration. you can remember a badge number plus walk away to fight another way. report your interactions if negative, explosive or violent. please act don't react to these silly bully tactics of the nypd. they are bored trained killers. so if at provoked they will not turn down a chance to get a notch. the kill is point nowadays; it used to be robbers and rapist, now it's bicyclist and protesters. so choose your battles wisely unless you're packing like the cops. and if the later is the case maybe you should try the army where you can pack for real. peace and greatness.

  • phillip Halsey 08/06/2008 9:09:00 AM

    the police want our kids out of control, so they can validate their jobs. your job is to infiltrate and destroy, move in stealth with respect and proper skill. confrontation leads to incarceration. you can remember a badge number plus walk away to fight another way. report your interactions if negative, explosive or violent. please act don't react to these silly bully tactics of the nypd. they are bored trained killers. so if at provoked they will not turn down a chance to get a notch. the kill is point nowadays; it used to be robbers and rapist, now it's bicyclist and protesters. so choose your battles wisely unless you're packing like the cops. and if the later is the case maybe you should try the army where you can pack for real. peace and greatness.

  • beedogs 07/18/2008 12:36:00 AM

    hauser, you seem pretty ignorant for someone apparently able to read and write.

  • Ernesto Cienfuegos 07/15/2008 12:29:00 AM

    The Police spokesperson says it all. Here are two young latino males breaking the stereotype placed on them by society. They are actually standing for something positive and not getting lost in the drugs in our community. And theyre called wannabes? and idiots??? Thats the problem. It seems the cops probably thought they were punks and it turns out they are a community supported positive rap group. Brilliant! Tom Robbins should be thanked for giving light to these kids and showing how once again the NYPD believes they are above the law.

  • John F. 07/14/2008 3:25:00 PM

    Oh, hey, thanks for surpressing my pro-NYPD comment, Voice. My opinion means nothing.

  • John F. 07/14/2008 3:06:00 PM

    Creeps got what they deserved. Cops have a tough job, and I don't blame them for reacting decisively when somebody butts in or becomes belligerent. I am white but I am anything but wealthy. I was stopped last week after dark by NYPD. I happened to be in a park after a curfew I was unaware of, and appeared to the officer to be taking evasive action. I wasn't, of course, but I stayed cool and respectful while the officer did his job. We ended our encounter with friendliness and respect. Don't step on a cop's toes, I have found, and you will be treated with courtesy. Get mouthy or brash, dumb ass, and take the consequences.

  • Kate 07/13/2008 10:45:00 AM

    C'mon Theguy. It's because people mind their own business that abuses can continue and grow. "If good men do not speak up, evil flourishes". It is a citizens right to ask for an officers badge number and the officers (our public servants are they not?) duty to provide that information when requested. Or did they act outside the law in this matter?

  • Hauser Obrien 07/12/2008 7:24:00 PM

    The guys are typical in-your-face punk rappers. Luckily they got bleeding heart dorkboys like you to cry about their plight and perhaps throw a little promotion their way. Oh and what's the point of sticking in the comment about how their parents fled Pinochet's Chile? Nothing to do with the story.

  • Michael Salazar 07/11/2008 5:55:00 AM

    The police seem to be trying to keep these two quiet. Pretty scary that this stuff is happening in 2008. You would think they would have stopped with these criminal tactics. These kids are heroes and should be looked up too and supported. With all the drugs in our community,theyre positive, theyre standing up for immigrant vendors. They seem to be articulate and have the support of important people.go rebel diaz!

  • Mr.Ananlogue 07/11/2008 1:53:00 AM

    Sirs and Madames, Is there any evidence of the raid? Any at all? Witnesses or some type of documentation to corroborate the apparent 2AM police raid? This article reeks of BS and, with nothing backing up these claims, reads as pure sensationalism. I find it quite irresponsible to publish such an incindiary piece with zero support. Cheerio,

  • Beth 07/11/2008 12:27:00 AM

    The cop told them WHY they were throwing away the vendors stuff. They didn't have permits to sell whatever they were selling. It happens! Seems to me these two are about "fighting the power" and kept giving the cops a headache acting like they had no right to be doing what they were doing. Finally the cops arrested their ass. I'm sure if this incident helps their music get out then they'll be happy the whole thing happened. I'm not a fan of the NYPD and we all know how corrupt cops are but this seems like these men were asking for trouble.

  • pendragon3 07/10/2008 9:33:00 PM

    With all of the commments that have been written, maybe we, as a city, should consider fighting back; non-violently of course. If wrongfully arrested, SUE THE CITY. If wrongfully prosecuted, SUE THE CITY. I would suggest the CCRB but that would do nothing. Since money is the only thing that speaks, perhaps the city will change its policies when juries-comprised of New Yorkers who have probably been harassed or heard about this stuff-start awarding large sums of money to citizens who have been wronged.

  • thegup 07/10/2008 7:49:00 PM

    This is why people should mind their own business. If you want to play are busy body wannabe political activist, sooner or later you get you ass kicked.

  • Andrew 07/10/2008 7:12:00 PM

    Im a white boy from Queens and I don't break the law, nor do I look for trouble and somehow I've managed to be harrased by police on just about every encounter I've had with them. No one in my life has treated me like a bad person except for NYPD who follow a policy of the lowest common denominator, meaning they treat everyone like a criminal. Personally I cant tell the difference between the police and the criminals, they are truly one and the same.

  • Bobby 07/10/2008 10:18:00 AM

    Will I am white and I would probably get locked up quicker than you. I get tossed against the wall just for being on 149th and broadway go figure so much for being white

  • Doozzer 07/10/2008 9:01:00 AM

    I would not give a bucket of piss for the character and integrity of the entire NYPD. They are trash pure and simple--an army of occupation run by the worst human nature has to offer.

  • Will 07/10/2008 6:15:00 AM

    Face it, the cops are pigs unless you are white and waelthy.

  • pendragon3 07/09/2008 7:57:00 PM

    This is precisely why I did not file a complaint against the cops when they illegally stopped me on the street. It's a good thing that in this situation, the cops didn't plant drugs or weapons on them ... not to say that it never has happened or won't happen in the future.

 

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