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What's Wrong with WNYC?

Listeners, including this one, miss the fiery To the Point

Cutting through the vast confusion of information available to us—much of it unsourced and unverified—local radio station WNYC used to offer us, each weekday afternoon at 2 p.m., an extraordinary range of reliable investigative reporting from all over the world, as well as debates among participants in the stories and the reporters covering them. But now, To the Point has disappeared.

Originating from Santa Monica's KCRW, a major station in the Los Angeles market, this national show, distributed by Public Radio International, is heard on more than 40 stations nationwide, from Washington, D.C., to rural Mississippi, and has a worldwide audience on satellite radio and the Internet.

A constant listener, I've also been a guest on the show, debating the torture president's treatment of prisoners with the administration's incessant defender, David Rifkin, who at first spoke sneeringly of having to deal with this person from—what is it, The Village Voice? After our first exchange, he was not eager for a rematch.

I'm also constantly learning new and unexpected facts from To the Point on such subjects as charter schools, Darfur, and the views of Washington insiders. Although I've been covering Africa's Hitler, Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe, for many years, on a recent To the Point I learned so much more from guest Grace Kwinjeh, a survivor of Mugabe's bloodied, ongoing opposition, the Movement for Democratic Change.

So why are we New Yorkers suddenly deprived of this daily illumination of the increasingly volatile world we live in? One angr y listener, Barbara Gordon, called WNYC and was told that the station wants to increase its diversity—especially more women serving as hosts.

When I called WNYC's public-relations department, "diversity" was again the talking point, with the addition of "We want new voices." I also got a whiff of WNYC's yearning for younger demographics—just like the commercial stations. That's the reason for The Takeaway, the new alternative to National Public Radio's invaluable Morning Edition, which used to be heard on both AM and FM. The Takeaway, a breezy but often marginal hour-long show, makes me jump ship to WNYC-FM at 8 a.m., which is now the only place to hear the far more invaluable and in-depth Morning Edition.

During my call to the WNYC publicist, I was told that a programming official would inform me of the reasons for dropping To the Point, which cannot be heard on either station. I'm still waiting for that call.

Its replacement, Tell Me More, hosted by Michel Martin, is a reasonably competent but basically undistinguished magazine-style show—sort of like "smooth jazz" radio in contrast to Newark's WGBO-FM, where you can hear everything from Thelonious Monk and Charles Mingus to Sherrie Maricle's superb all-women big band, the DIVA Jazz Orchestra.

"Diversity," of course, is as vitally essential in radio as it is everywhere else. A continually invigorating example of this is Amy Goodman's national news show Democracy Now!, heard in New York on WBAI. I wonder if Amy's full-strength fusion of breaking news and analysis—very much like what Warren Olney's To the Point delivers—would be too strong for WNYC the way it's begun to trend now.

Since the 1960s, Olney has been an investigative reporter and political analyst, first on TV and now on the radio. He is a deeply informed interviewer and, like Count Basie, knows how to keep the beat moving no matter how inflamed the controversies (or the guests) become.

Olney is on a par with WNYC's masterful Brian Lehrer and Leonard Lopate, whose penetrating skills, I hope, will not become rarer on WNYC if the station management's quest for lighter and more entertaining "new voices" intensifies.

Of the many angry letters to WNYC I've seen in recent days, a characteristic protest was addressed to Laura Walker, the station president and CEO, from John Phillips, one of the many "members" of the station who contribute regularly to its fund drives: "This is to protest, at the level of a scream, your decision to replace the meaty To the Point . . . with its grand array of experts and analysts zeroing in on topics of genuine import. . . . [The program's] loss will make it far less my station than it has been for many years. This change . . . is clearly not prompted by a motivation to present solid analysis and informed opinion on your air, but something a good deal less."

I still have WNYC on often, and I never miss the broadcasts of the BBC World Service at 9 a.m. and midnight. Much like The Economist magazine, the BBC's on-the-ground reporters get into parts of the world that are still largely shadowy—at best—to most Americans. But perhaps the outrage of many New York listeners at the loss of To the Point may make WNYC's management realize that somewhat higher ratings—even among what it clearly regards as a more desirable demographic—can lessen the essential value of the station. In the New York City area, WNYC has long been an anchor of what broadcast journalism can be and must be, if we're to continue to enjoy freedom of the press as it was described in 1734 by Andrew Bradford, founder of The American Weekly Mercury, Pennsylvania's first newspaper. Bradford defined freedom of the press as "a liberty of detecting the wicked and destructive measure of certain politicians, of dragging villainy out of its obscure lurking holes and exposing it in its full deformity to open day . . . of attacking wickedness in high places, of disentangling the folds of a wicked and corrupt administration, and pleading freely for a redress of grievances. . . ."

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  • 10/03/2011 3:00:00 AM

    WNYC has gone very far down hill. Tell Me More is a show for Blacks as is Tavis Smiley and Brother Cornel West (GMAFB). I am not Black, why do I care about this? I want engaging programming, I don't care if they're Black (some of my best friends are Black as the saying goes :) No kidding, why do I give a flying #$%^? Brother this brother that ... come on. Put on someone engaging who knows what's interesting applies to all smart people, not just those stuck in a narrow color niche. The Takeaway is a show for the mentally challenged. Laura Walker extracts 500+K a year from listeners (for her salary), yet is constantly reminding me to donate securities, and not to forget about WNYC in my legacy ... how debaucherous ... I wonder how much Laura will be leaving WNYC in her will? To The Point was great, so is On Point, a show with a similar name.

  • Vic Livingston 07/28/2008 11:22:00 PM

    That link to "Expose State-Supported Vigilante Squads" is: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported -vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism Nat: This is happening in NYC and all over America. It's a network, the 21st century version of the KKK.

  • Vic Livingston 07/28/2008 7:53:00 PM

    Wish the public radio chattering class would tackle the discarding of the Constitution and the imposition of STATE-SUPPORTED VIGILANTE JUSTICE. Please be advised: Your democracy has been stolen. http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

  • jenny 07/25/2008 8:54:00 PM

    I also miss To the Point. It's getting harder and harder to find tough, international news anywhere in our media landscape. The web is a great alternative, but only for highly motivated people with computer access all day. The Takeaway is a heinous listening experience: Hockenberry and Udoji trade stupid banter, even while discussing serious issues such as torture, and constantly interrupt their guests. The sound effects are themselves a form of torture. And now this horrid show is going to two hours, which will pre-empt BBC news at 9 on the FM dial. Another issue are the constant ads which are proliferating under Laura Walker's tenure: during a single hour of All Things Considered, there were around 20 ads and promos, including endless ones for the Takeaway. Just awful.

  • Graffiti Grammarian 07/25/2008 8:38:00 AM

    I agree 100% with Nat Hentoff. The radio station is in the midst of a campaign to draw in younger listeners, and it has chosen to do so by foolishly eradicating the best stuff from its schedule, including To the Point and Morning Edition. My own personal gripe is the amateurishness of the show that replaces Morning Edition -- The Takeaway. It is put together by people who have very little experience in conveying news and information. The show flounders at every turn and though I have tried, I cannot listen to it. For me, this creates an inconvience: Morning Edition is still available but only on the FM band. But since I live in a dense Manhattan neighborhood, my reception of FM stations is poor and I can't pick up WNYC's FM signal well enough to listen. So I have now begun to turn off my radio in the morning and turn on my computer instead. I think this must be an ominous thing for WNYC, for now that it has forced people like me to turn to the Internet for my audio news, we shall surely take the next step -- foregoing WNYC entirely and opting for Albany public radio, or other good public stations with better overall programming. Bad move, WNYC! I have been a fan for many years but you are losing me now.

  • Richard Mitnick 07/23/2008 9:58:00 PM

    Mr Hentoff referred to angry letters to Laura Walker. I would sure like to see those letters. I personally am a music listener, as angry at the loss of daytime classical music on FM as is Mr. Hentoff about "To The Point." But, my anger is eased and gone by the advent of wnyc2, our 24/7/365 classical music stream, available also for HD radio. While we do not share content interests, we do share the use of a very high quality Public Radio service. I am a WNYC fanatic, maybe Mr Hentoff is also, or, at least was until the end of "To The Point." But, the internet has made Public Radio no longer local (the New York Times reported that the second largest audience for KCRW is New York City), and I am sure this is not news to Mr. Hentoff. He can easily get "To The Point" probably from many stations taking it from KCRW. All one needs do is consult http://www.publicradiofan.com. For a while, before the advent of wnyc2, I listened on the computer to, and belonged to KUSC, Los Angeles, where Brenda Barnes, the president and a good e-friend, was king enough to see that my Arts card was transferred to my grandson's L.A. elementary school. I would think also that To The Point has podcasts available. Hey, it is a new world. We need to get up to speed with a lot of this stuff.

 

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