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Sean 10/02/2010 9:02:00 PM
Your debit was not caused by currency! It's your luxury living style. Resource is limited by nature.
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Sean 10/02/2010 9:02:00 PM
Your debit was not caused by currency! It's your luxury living style. Resource is limited by nature.
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Harry Campbell 03/20/2009 4:45:00 PM
Aplogies for late comment but being a Brit living in Britland I do not normally read the Voice. I have just had the cooked economy article sent to me and I have to say it is one of the best explanations I have read. It was quite difficult to read because of constant rising of red mist and voices in my head saying things like firing, sqaud, walls, revolution, and sytemic failure. I would like James L's take on where he sees this all ending up. I see many parallels with the thirties and we all know where that ended up.
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Angela 03/06/2009 10:15:00 AM
"Black contends that aggressive prosecution would be good for the economy because it may help prevent cheating and fraud that inevitably cause bubbles and destroy wealth."
Exactly. Do you wonder why so many dirty money managers are coming out of the woodwork? You also have a BUNCH of fraudulent home appraisals/loans as well. There has been a TON of fraud going on which DID cause the bubbles that Black talks about.
Angela
Backlinks
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Jason M. 03/04/2009 5:46:00 AM
Finaly The people are understanding,
but I got to tell you, there are others
that are Far ahead of you in Infomation wise
Not enough people are outraged or even aware enough to do anything, so its up to the people in the know to take A.C.T.I.O.N and make a real difference in the world.
I am...In my own way of Course.. and soon enough i will become more powerful than you can possibly Imagen.
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Salakala 03/02/2009 3:56:00 PM
Well what can I say: Thanks America for scewing ower the world once more. Is America still the beacon that europe should follow? Think not!!!
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CBL 02/28/2009 11:22:00 PM
Colombia, not Columbia. Oof.
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John Merryman 02/27/2009 6:29:00 AM
Some thoughts on where we go from here.
I first began questioning economic orthodoxy by trying to figure out how Paul Volcker cured inflation by raising interest rates. Yes, inflation is caused by loose money, but higher rates hurt demand, ie, the borrower, while rewarding supply, ie, the lender. How do you cure an oversupply by reducing demand through higher cost and rewarding supply? You don�t. What cured inflation was Reagan�s deficit spending. Not only was it direct demand for capital, but the public spending had a multiplier effect in the private economy. Meanwhile those loaning the money have its value supported and get paid interest. Interesting how a surplus of currency gets blamed on those lacking wealth, while those with a surplus of capital get rewarded. So I�m concerned that Volcker is now President Obama�s financial guru.
One of my arguments over the years has been that money has become a tax based public utility and our current financial system is a transition state between private banks issuing private currency, to now a publicly supported currency leased out to a private banking system and the next step will be a public banking system that will be incorporated at all levels of government, so that profits are re-cycled back through the communities which created them and depositors would naturally bank with those institutions that support the services they are most likely to use. Competition would be a function of the various communities trying to provide the best environment for people and business.
That is why it is interesting to watch the banking system being rapidly nationalized. Rather than spending untold wealth to restore it to health and return it to the private sector, it needs to be broken up and distributed to the various levels of government, from counties and towns, to cities and states, with some degree of federal oversight of the banks and control of the currency. Though even the function of currency might be dispersed as well, with state and regional currencies supplementing a broad national currency.
The problem with supply side economics is that money is saved by investing it. This means loaning it to someone else. Therefore total savings are determined by how much can be prudently loaned, not by how much can be reserved from earnings. In order to accommodate surplus savings, loan standards were lowered and fantasy investment vehicles were created, resulting in a bubble of excess circulation far greater than a few trillion can patch up. The borrower is the foundation of capitalism and when the borrower is tapped out, it's like planting seed in barren soil.
That is why it is necessary to understand money as the public commons/wealth that it is, not the private property we have been led to believe. As an analogy, you own your house, car, business, etc. but not the roads connecting them. Money is similar to the roads. It�s the interchangeability that makes it work. It is both medium of exchange and store of value, but as store of value it amounts to fat cells in the economy. Necessary in moderation and broadly dispersed, but dangerous in excess and concentration. If those administering transportation systems insisted on squeezing as much profit from the rest of the economy as possible and that they were the only ones capable of making it work, it would be viewed as corruption, pure and simple. In fact, that's what the railroads did and it was.
Viewing money as a public utility would incline us to store wealth in our communities and environment, rather than drain value out to put in a bank. Like democracy, it�s about strengthening the bottom up growth process, while defining the top down control mechanism to its most efficient functions.
Growth is bottom up, not top down. The problem with treating the economy like a game of Monopoly is that when one person owns everything, the game is over and then starts again. In real life, this stage is called revolution. The economy must function as a convective cycle of rising assets and precipitating benefits, otherwise we have the current situation of large storm clouds of marginally productive wealth hanging over a parched economy.
This isn't an ideology, just an observation of how to differentiate between public and private functions. There are potential problems with any model, but this seems to me to be what the next step up the evolutionary ladder entails.
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paul 02/24/2009 12:54:00 PM
Bring back bush, obama is a looser and going to destroy america.
Your only soloution is LOWER goverment spending....
Your only soloution is LOWER dept....
Less goverment....
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nd 02/24/2009 11:11:00 AM
The circumstances indicated in this article seems to point to connivance between the hedge funds and people in power.
1st: hedge funds are allowed to bet mortgages will go bad, using CDS as a vehicle.
2nd: bad mortgage types are allowed, such as, no downpayment mortgages , and other mortgage types guaranteed to go bad. This ensures the hedge fund bets will definitely win.
3rd: politicians give trillions of dollars of taxpayer money to AIG and banks to pay the hedge funds.
Can the hedge funds be identified, people directly or indirectly connected to the hedge funds ? hedge fund lobbyists ? money trail ?
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ian 02/19/2009 7:03:00 PM
Thanks for the comment Nick! Now I don't have to write the same thing.
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Bill J 02/19/2009 4:43:00 PM
Oh dear....it really is quite discouraging isn't it.
In Canada over the last 15 years we have experienced great pressure from the banks to "de-regulate" them so they may take advantage of the rapidly growing world market. Luckily our Prime Ministers (Liberal not Conservative)rejected these pressures...thus no bank failures or bailouts in Canada.
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Todd 02/17/2009 9:57:00 AM
"widest fraud in American history" is finally getting close to the scale of the deceit and criminality. However, most of these problems were pointed out for at least 1 year in other financial blogs, only just now are mainstream rags understanding the scope of the disaster. This article didn't really go into how leveraging rules were changed, so that normal reserves for the obvious real estate bubble were not established. This article does not go into how so called financial institutions and the SEC happily rationalized naked short selling, until the predators became the prey, then all heck broke loose and naked short selling was banned during the summer of 2008.
Rampant corruption, abdication of responsibility, careless attitudes as long as they kept the paper riches coming, they broke trust in Wall Street permanently, worldwide. And then our congressmen pouring trillions down a hole that could consume 10's of trillions before it is ever satisfied, its a complete fiasco with deadly effects. Why are hundreds of these criminals in jail instead of rewarded with bailout money?
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PhilBest 02/17/2009 8:28:00 AM
This article is indeed full of useful information. I agree with SOME of the article writers conclusions and draw a few of my own.
Derivatives are not going to cook the world's economy in spite of the massive amounts of money involved. The main problem still is mortgages and other loans for which the house or other security, was overvalued due to a classic "bubble" situation; and are now resuming their true values in relationship to income and GDP. This is a serious problem, as actual monetary value, which had been artificially "created" as the assetts rose in value and people borrowed against that value, is now in the process of being destroyed. There are enough trillions involved, to "cook the world's economy".
Derivatives, though, never had any inherent value as an assett like a house or a security or a share. They are like an insurance policy or a bet. We could add up the value of all the world's insurance policies and it would be higher than the $600 trillion value estimated for derivatives. A hypothetical event involving that that all insurance policies had to be paid out on, would be a similar catastrophe to all derivatives having to be paid out on; ignoring, of course, the destruction of assetts that required the insurance policies to be paid out on.
An even better analogy, is the gambling industry. If they suddenly and miraculously had to pay out on long odds on all bets placed with them simultaneously, they would of course be broke, and the people who had placed the bets would not get to collect their winnings. This is exactly what should happen with derivatives. I agree completely with the article writer that it is immoral and illegal that taxpayers money be used to pay out on these gambles. I agree too that prosecutions are in order if there was collusion between the dealers and/or the financial institution management; and the "counterparty" to the derivative.
But the net effect on the world economy is close to neutral, as what happens is that a whole lot of money gets transferred from some players in the system to some other players in the system. Sure, some have lost and some have won; but unlike with assett value bubbles, there has not suddenly been a whole lot of monetary value just evaporate. The "winners" have to do something with the money they have won. That is another question that the article writer should be asking, besides who these "winners" are: what are these "winners" doing with the money? Then we will see what part of the world's economy is being stimulated at the expense of those who have been on the losing end of the gambles, which includes of course the investors in the financial institutions that have collapsed. Of course, they might be buying gold.......
These investors were in all likelihood enjoying the handsome returns that resulted from the derivatives trade; therefore there is an element of morality in the risk factor coming back to bite them now. I think the article writer is too willing to prejudge fraudulent intentions on the part of the derivative dealers. Every level of this morass involved people acting perfectly knowingly on the assumption that house prices can never fall; the writers of subprime mortgages, house buyers, speculators, the bundlers of "CDO"'s and other securities; the purchasers of those securities; and the sellers of the derivatives and credit default swaps that were an "insurance" against the failure of those securities.
The only people in this whole process who laid their money on the line in a calculated gamble that there was a bubble about to burst, are the people who BOUGHT the derivatives as fast as the industry created them. The article writer is absolutely correct in insisting that the identity of these people become known. But even so, prosecution may not be justified.
These people are "guilty" of being able to assess a fake economic boom over which almost everybody else had lost their heads; note that there was no lack of warnings concerning this situation from hundreds of experts of which Ron Paul is merely a well-known example. Such people can hardly be blamed for taking the attitude that, "oh well, if you won't listen to me, don't blame me for making a pile on the side out of my superior wisdom".
Others will have kept their thoughts to themselves and quietly profited. I am picking that George Soros and John Paulson will be among the big winners. If Ron Paul and Peter Schiff and Paul Kasriel and Nouriel Roubini and the hundreds of other people we refused to listen to have profited from our stupidity, so be it. Another possibility is that clever "sovereign" operators such as the Chinese or the Saudis or the Russians are involved, perhaps even as a form of war on the USA.
The fact that Henry Paulson went down on bended knees pleading for the money to pay some of these "counterparties" out, gets one thinking.
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Effenhel 02/17/2009 4:29:00 AM
Six pages of pain? Yes it all sucks right now, but six pages? next time could we get the bad news in two page installments? Ow! As a business owner I feel this every day, it is very depressing.
My grandfather jumped of the bank building in NY that he was president of in 1907 during the panic. It had long a lasting on our family. This economic mess will have a long lasting impact on all of our families.
Throw the bastards in prison.
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nd 02/16/2009 6:10:00 AM
Mr. Lieber, you are a genius, Obama should appoint you as economic adviser.
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dave 02/12/2009 4:58:00 AM
bailout?
not one fucking cent do we owe these fuckers.
the taxbase owes them shit!
here's some fucking news: if the business failed- go do somthing else!
trillions for something other than education, food, housing, healthcare, etc?
get a clue.
what a fucking boondoggle.
pockets are most definitely being lined.
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dave 02/12/2009 4:54:00 AM
not one fucking cent.
that's what the government owes these bastards.
the government's only job is to prevent social collapse - that means spend it's money to bring the essentials (housing, food, heathcare, etc) to those who can't afford to do it themselves (for whatever fucking reason).
they take money out of my paycheck every fucking week and now that I know that trillions are being spent elsewhere I'm ready to burn the mother down from coast to coast.
get a fucking clue people.
if the business failed, doing something else.
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Joe Beasley 02/12/2009 2:30:00 AM
If this is factual, as I believe it is, a lot of these "fat cat" criminals must go to jail. The suggestion that Attorney General Holder, under directions from President Obama, assemble a team of white-collar FBI agents and aggressively prosecute those who are responsible for this disaster is not only a great idea, but the only credible course of action to be pursued by the new adminstration.
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sandy 02/10/2009 10:14:00 AM
Though the persons who register online for searching for single women and men are screened, it is still not 100% possible to get to know everything about them. There are photo personals included so that when people want to meet they can see a photograph of the person they are going to see, but even this can be an old picture where the person is much younger and looks pretty good and you get a rude shock when you come face to face with them. Of course there is no hard and fast rule that you have to continue to date them and can back off gracefully without offending them. Things like this leave those who are searching for online dates a bit unnerved, but this is all part of the game.
sandy
Adult Dating-Adult Dating
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Allene E. Swienckowski 02/09/2009 3:10:00 AM
Thank you so much! I have been teelling myhusband for almost a year now that sub-prime mortgages could not have solely devastated the world economic market. I am an ex-banker...I left the field just as de-regulation was endorsed by Ronald Reagan. I knew that my responsibilities as a corporate lender were going to become so murky that there wasn't enough Courvoisier to settle my nerves. I have suspected for quite sometime that "bundled assets" had been insured multiple times and since no one bothered to question what was in the bundles, who cared if they had been sold ad infinitum!
Thank you for saying what I couldn't say. I was simply a banker with excellent instincts back in the day.
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jgfox 02/08/2009 10:56:00 PM
James Lieber's "What Cooked the World's Economy?" is by far the best analysis of our current crisis that I have read.
He traces the historical roots in a lucid manner and explains complex financial instruments very clearly.
Great work!
Unfortunately, I agree with his pessimistic outlook.
We seen to be carpet bombing financial companies with taxpayer monies without much effect.
We plan to bail out the large dysfunctional states, MI, CA, NY, and NJ, whose out of control spending politicians have brought them to financial bankruptcy.
The Recovery Act legislation is tref.
So much Pork it oinks.
How many generations will it take to pay off this debt?
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Jen 02/08/2009 4:52:00 AM
Thank you for this enlightening article. Non of the current economic situation made any sense to me until I read this. I sincerely hope you will continue writing about this so that more people will understand. It is truly sickening.
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Christopher Nunneley 02/06/2009 9:00:00 PM
Derivatives are zero sum. They move wealth from the loser of the derivative contract over to the winner. Same money, just moved from one player to the other.
There is no destruction of wealth in derivatives as far as the broader economy is concerned. Money may have moved between players, but it hasn't been destroyed.
Thus, derivatives inside one economy *can't* crash that same economy.
This means that derivatives by themselves can't be responsible for an economic downturn. For *that*, one needs to look at actions such as the decline of the price of one home for sale that brings down the prices/values of homes that aren't for sale at all, or to other non-zero-sum events such as the destruction of credit availability.
Are the Voice's readers and authors up to that much of a mental challenge?
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jerry 02/05/2009 1:30:00 AM
Mr. Lieber's very detailed and thorough investigative article is terrific. He has outlined the world's biggest Ponzi Scheme beginning with Reagan and finally imploding under the boy Bush. The Crime Family included the uber-rich financial mega-bankers, corporatists running Wall Street, and many in the Republican Party associated with the Bush family.
http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com
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jerry 02/05/2009 1:15:00 AM
Mr. Lieber's very detailed and thorough investigative article is terrific. He has outlined the world's biggest Ponzi Scheme beginning with Reagan and finally imploding under the boy Bush. The Crime Family included the uber-rich financial mega-bankers, corporatists running Wall Street, and many in the Republican Party associated with the Bush family.
http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com
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MJ 02/04/2009 6:25:00 PM
So Levin, Rubin, Paulson, Greenspan, and WJClinton are the guilty parties?
Why did Obama hire so many of these theives? Why did he make WJCs wife two bull-ets away from the Presidency
Like the 9/11 commission, Clintonistas are getting into decision and policy making capacities to protect their hides. Will Obama put Jamie Gorelick on the commission investigating Fannie and Freddie?
Extremely doubtful if any Democratic supporter will get subpoenaed.
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Fergie 02/03/2009 8:27:00 PM
One of the best articles the Voice has run in ages. For the past few years I've been wondering why your cover stories were so doggedly irrelevant and out of touch with the issues facing New York, let alone the nation. Lieber's story hits the nail on the head and then some. Please, more of this! Robbin's analysis of the Gillibrand appointment was also top notch. Please keep printing stuff the mainstream can't or won't.
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umbrarchist 02/02/2009 10:04:00 PM
How many cars have Americans thrown on the junk heap since the Moon landing. How many TRILLIONS of DOLLARS have been lost on the depreciation of the junk since then? There have been 200,000,000+ cars in the US since 1995. That is more cars than there were Americans in the 30's. At $1,500 per car per year that is $300,000,000,000 lost every year. That Comes to FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS since 1995.
What do our economists say about this?
NOTHING!!!
They only compute the depreciation of CAPITAL GOODS and usually don't mention that.
GlobaLIES
http://www.quantumcritics.com/general/from-economic-errors-to-globalies.html
Our nitwit economists have us running the world on Bad Algebra.
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Karl Hosch 02/02/2009 6:49:00 AM
This is a right on article! I have linked it to my website Silverrockstheworld.com.
Check it out, if you like the truth drenched in reality!
I have been screaming about Derivatives for years and one of my many derivative posts on the aforementioned site takes you through a simplified example of how three simple subsequent transactions could multiply fake value by at least 2000%. It also shows how what goes up dishonestly, usually falls off the financial cliff into an abyss of destruction.
The post is called "Derivatives... Derivatives..." Look for it and for God's sake get some silver in your possession. Besides survival elements such as food, shelter, guns, ammo, even a little solar back up, etc., silver is the only thing that will make you successful in the VERY near future.
The bets are in and Obama will prove to be just another pawn of the power elite that dictates the rise and fall of economies, countries and maybe if they screw their devious plans up, even a civilization!
Have a good day! Larson.
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KW 02/01/2009 6:40:00 AM
God help us all! If Obama and Holder don't jump all over this and imprision all the players from government officials to hedge fund traders and ceo's than shame on all of us. We are just like sheep waiting for a knight to come and save us. When are we going to do something about our future? If we leave this as is, it is going to take some 25 years to dig out from under. I don't even have 25 more years to work so what is my incentive to do good, be nice and carry on? Our government needs to know we are worried, want something done, and we are not going to just follow this "just be nice and stop being mean" attitude from the people we want to trust to lead us. Obama needs to know he absolutely needs to do something - more than have tax payers suck it up and hope for the best. Remember the claw! I am mortified for our future and I don't have enough future to waste being mortified! We know the players - Obama needs to go get them. Nothing less. He needs to go get them. I like the part about France's government being afraid of its people - not like us - we are afraid of our government. Time for change.
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lopicc 02/01/2009 4:44:00 AM
don't forget the beta code for this whole mess Enron. did the guys behind that ever really pay?
and on and on
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dave 01/31/2009 7:00:00 PM
nick,
please more. if not the article's chronology, what caused aig's collapse in spite of taxdollar support. what's dtcc?
is the 2.7 tril enough to blow open the current economic hole or are you saying it's just a spontaneous result of a bursting us housing/mortgage bubble?
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Hal E Burton 01/31/2009 6:58:00 PM
Here's a simple analogy of the "bailout"/TARP program. The biggest gamblers in the world discovered the game was fixed, but because the corporatocracy insists on continuing to try and convince us that the game is NOT fixed, those big gamblers are being paid off for their losses. THAT IS WHY THEY WILL NOT TELL US WHO GOT THE MONEY.
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01/31/2009 6:18:00 PM
Excellent--I watched this happen and was appalled at the lack of oversight stripped away by the clinton admin..Another contribution was the allowance of the rating firms- Moodys- S&P- to get into collusion with the investment banks and Corps...They rated debt in accordance with what percentage was to go to their buddies! REREGULATION IS THE ONLY ANSWER...GET THIS PIECE OUT TO EVERY MEDIA OUTLET AND CONGRESS---THE FOREIGN PRESS WILL RUN WITH IT< OO! Clive Cook and Hitchens will blow this out! Thanks
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MF 01/31/2009 12:45:00 PM
Hey, Nick - I think you're missing the bigger picture here in this article. The average American was fucked -- hard -- by Wall Street first and now the U.S. government -- that's the point. The bs is flying so fast out of Washington in bailout money, the average American can't even comprehend it. The first $75 billion was shocking, and now people are just numb -- another few trillion? Sure. Most people could give a rat's ass about the fine points in your comments trying to minimize the impact of the author's very good work at trying to make sense of this abyss that's been created through greed, malfeasance and immorality. People need to get mad -- really mad -- when they read this. Madoff, Rubin, Greenspan, Cassano, Mozilo of CountryFried, Bernake, Paulson et al need to see justice on the lawn of the White House - in the form of the guillotine. The "white collar" criminals aren't going to "get it" until there's some real punishment for their crimes. We need to be more like France. In France, the government is afraid of the people. In America, we're afraid of the government.
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sophia 01/31/2009 11:05:00 AM
Thanks for this great article! I'd wish more media outlets would report like this.
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Eileen 01/31/2009 9:38:00 AM
Don't bother with subpoenas. Send in federal marshals now to seize computers and records. Woe to the Obama administration if he does not open this to the light of day and hold the thieves accountable. That's the trouble with appointing Wall Street insiders to the Treasury Dept.
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Nick 01/31/2009 9:19:00 AM
The number of mistakes in this article, both factual and logical, is astonishing. The fact that this article made it past The Voice's editors should be a source of embarrassment.
For starters, the author clearly doesn't know the difference between "credit derivatives" and other types of derivatives. Ponder that for a second: the author of an article blaming the financial crisis specifically on credit derivatives doesn't actually know what is, and what is not, a credit derivative. Amazing. For example, Lieber repeatedly claims that there's $600 trillion in credit derivatives outstanding. That's 100% false. Lieber is referring to the gross value of OTC derivatives, the vast majority of which are interest rate swaps. Interest rate swaps are NOT credit derivatives.
The vast majority of credit derivatives are credit default swaps (CDS). According to the DTCC, which warehouses over 90% of CDS contracts outstanding, the net notional amount of CDS outstanding (the number that actually reflects the total risk in a given market) is only $2.7 trillion. Also, credit derivatives were created in 1997, so Lieber's claim that credit derivatives totaled $8 trillion in 1994 is pure fiction.
Lieber's truly bizzare suggestion that Bloomberg is possibly a monopoly is made even more hilarious by his claim that "[i]f it has a true competitor, I can't find it." Umm, how about Reuters? In fact, if you type in "Bloomberg L.P." on Wikipedia, the introductory section of the Wikipedia article lists 4 of Bloomberg's competitors. Apparently Lieber didn't search too hard. But hey, you can't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory!
Hardly a paragraph goes by without a jaw-dropping false statement. It's hard to imagine how The Voice could have selected a LESS qualified author to write about credit derivatives. I've seen more coherent arguments in high school newspapers. It's sad that people will read this article and think that it's true. It is not.
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MutantCapitalism 01/31/2009 12:46:00 AM
While Attorney Lieber astutely points out that this has been such a massive web of complicity, rife with intricacies of aiders and abettors all the way, there is one integral aspect of the scheme that is overlooked - mortgage servicing fraud, whereby subsidiary servicers deliberately manufacture bogus defaults through a variety of egregious tactics best described in FTC settlements: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/09/emc.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov:80/os/caselist/0323014.shtm - US v. Fairbanks Capital linked here involved a class of 281,000 mortgage servicing fraud victims. FTC recently admitted they have no idea how big Bear Stearns subsidiary servicer EMC victim class is though it is widely known EMC Mortgage Corp. has actively engaged in servicing fraud for more than 20 years now. These tactics are designed to fabricate defaults where in fact none exist leaving many homeowners who have made all their payments on time in foreclosure.
You may ask what does mortgage servicing fraud have to do with credit derivatives? It has a lot to do with the over leveraged credit default swap casino betting orgy. Just imagine an arsonist taking out insurance on homes in your neighborhood, then setting fire to those homes in order to collect on those policies. Imagine there are thousands of "arsonists" taking out billions of dollars worth of insurance on your $350,000 dollar home, knowing full well they will reap obscene profits when subsidiary servicers pour on incendiary practices and light the fire. Several have questioned efficacy of firewalls between trading desks and subsidiary servicers. Look at genesis of Markit Group Ltd., purveyor of subprime ABX index paying particular attention to original consortiums involved - ABN Amro, Barclays Capital, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank, Deutsche B�, Dresdner Kleinwort, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley and UBS = IIC International Index Company Limited, now part of MarkIt Group. Then there's CDS IndexCo
comprised of ABN AMRO, Bank of America, Barclays Capital, Bear Stearns, BNP Paribas, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, JPMorgan, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, UBS, and Wachovia and also now part of MarkIt Partner which according to Financial Times, these firms retain 67% interest. MarkIt Partner web site currently says it has 16 banks as shareholders, without naming the banks. This is the now infamous shadow banking cartel.
Let there be no doubt that this scheme was rigged from inception. Mortgage investment trusts were targeted, mortgage servicers went to work fabricating defaults known as "credit events" that pay out to CDS speculators who often have no skin in the game. This will go down as not only the largest insider trading scam in all history but one with the US government as partner in crime, an accomplice that continues to bailout the perpetrators when it should be prosecuting them.
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Robert Sands 01/30/2009 9:22:00 PM
Should the culprits just desserts be any different than the finale of "Bonnie and Clyde"? A bank robber is a bank robber, even when disguised with smoke and mirrors to cloak the wolves underneath.
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Joanne Pacicca 01/30/2009 6:32:00 PM
Finally! The horrible and embarrassing truth! Thank you!
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01/30/2009 12:15:00 PM
I think you're not digging deep enough. Get to the facts of how credit works and what debt is which is slavery.
It all goes back to the fractional reserve system and the fact that the Fed Reserve is as federal as Fed EX. The Fed Reserve is a private bank and has nothing to do with the Gov but he who controls the money system controls the Gov which is why you only see presidential candidates that have huge corporate backing that win. Anyone that simply reads how banks work will understand that We The People are being robbed blind and that more money (which is made from nothing) pumped into the system will only further crush the dollar in the long run.
Take this example -
If a bank has $100 and you get a loan for $50 the bank then has $50 left right? Wrong. When you sign a credit card or any other loan app the bank monetizes the application, which is when money is made from nothing, then gives you credit with interest based on money it made with you out of thin air. So no the bank has $150 in their system now and you have nothing but credit and interest which the bank takes and profits more. Then if you don't pay back the money from nothing they come take all your stuff. Just like a mortgage that you don't pay and the bank takes your house then profits yet again by selling it to someone with money made out of thin air.
Simply ask any banker which money baring account your mortgage was paid out from and they can't tell you because the money did not exist to begin with.
Do the research. The fed does not really hid this information but neither they nor Obama will address the issue in public because if We The People wake up then We The People will demand that the money system goes back to the people via congress as stated in The Constitution, remember that document?
Wake up Americans we are all being robbed blind. This is how the rich get richer and the poor poorer. Whats fucked up is that few people want to wake up and do something we'd rather watch American Idol and other bullshit smoke screens like prime time TV then spending a few hours learning the facts and spending 5 minutes to tell Obama that we know and their game is up.
Take a stand America. Do the research. Learn the facts.
Here's a documentary on the money but don't take their word for it research and read about the fractional banking system, how credit is made and what credit is.
Knowledge is power and We The People need to take the money back!
Fiat Empire
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531&hl=en
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Carla 01/30/2009 8:36:00 AM
What a satisfying analysis of the firestorm that is still exploding!What can't be included (lest the momentum be dragged down to a trickle), but occurred over about 25 years since I studied derivatives in law school are the following:disappearance of assets during the confusion of the S & L scandal and subsequent flurry of takeovers; the myriad of star stock analysts that were flagrantly pushing companies they had a financial interest in; federal preemption of state attempts to regulate predatory lending, i.e., California in 1990's; inexplicable cessation of what seemed to be a good start in SEC fraud investigation and prosecution in the mid 1990's. That's only what I, as an outsider, personally noticed.Makes ones head spin.
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verninino 01/30/2009 4:29:00 AM
I wish they had a 'share' button so that we wouldn't need to rely on them to leaflet facebook ourselves.
Update your code folks, please.
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Pangloss 01/29/2009 9:47:00 PM
"Give 'Em Enough Rope" they'll hang themselves and next two generations.
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jen 01/29/2009 10:03:00 AM
i'm with Dave. Would you guys mind printing leafletting the rest of the country with this? I can't think of a better and more informative piece so far this year.
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Michael Goldstein 01/29/2009 9:22:00 AM
The recent departure of Nat Hentoff really upset me, and I was just about to give up on The Voice, but Feingold is still there so I read him religiously every week. The surprise today was "Up in Smoke" by James Lieber. WOW! His is the kind of Journalism The Voice needs to put front and center EVERY week. I only hope Obama is able to instruct his financial team correct the errors of their ways during the Clinton-Bush years. Again, thanks for the penetrating insights.
Michael Goldstein
Manhattan
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dave 01/29/2009 4:29:00 AM
this is exactly why i still read the voice after having fled the post-gentrification les after the riot. this article cuts to the bone hard and it's exactly what we need. As soon as I read it, I fired off a message to Obama asking where the bailout money had gone.
thanks again. you paper blows everything else away