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Hipster Runoff Explained (Maybe)

A (possibly) illuminating chat with Carles, the Internet's latest mystery man

Altbros, altbags, blipstaz, "blog house" enthusiasts, Tumblr addicts, and uneasy rock critics alike have for the past two years found themselves in thrall to Hipster Runoff, a sardonic music blog run by "Carles," a mysterious and quite possibly messianic figure whose bizarre mixture of puerile humor, savage satire, goofy nauvete, and profound cultural critique has left everyone enthralled, terrorized, and completely confused.

Whether brutally deconstructing alternative DJs, "personal brands," TV on the Radio, or the concept of Girls' Night Out, Carles mixes juvenile text-speak ("Is it ALT 2 watch the Super Bowl?") with provocative armchair sociology: The epic post "Animal Collective Is a Band Created By/For/On the Internet" attracted a particularly great deal of both deification and derision. Was its blunt assessment of the self-perpetuating and notoriously insecure Internet hype machine-i.e., the "bros who pretend to only care about judging music based on 'how it sounds' but secretly check P4k rankings on a weekly basis to construct what they 'like' based on how they perceive the masses are digesting new content"-a revelatory breakthrough or old news dressed up with new jokes? Did he even mean it? Is he laughing at us? With us? Who the hell is he, and what does he want?

Recently, Carles agreed to an IM interview (his preferred medium) to shed light on these and other salient topics. I'm not quite certain if any light got shed or not.

Who are you?

That's probably the most difficult question you could ask. I have been pretty anonymous up to this point in terms of "who I am" and "my relationship with what I blog about," but I think that is part of the conceptual execution of HRO.

Anything you can reveal? Where do you live? What do you do all day besides . . . this?

I am a pretty standard bro. I grew up in suburbia and recently graduated from business school. I now have a "job that I hate" and doesn't really "allow me to express myself." But my day is pretty much taken up by my "real job." I am hoping that ad money will enable me to quit soon.

What do the scare quotes there signify? Sarcasm?

I think sometimes I just feel disconnected from my own words/world. When I type things out, they seem cliched and/or insignificant. It might just be a bad habit, though.

Do you think people would be surprised by what you're like "in real life," or are you pretty much what they'd probably expect?

I think people would expect me to be "loud" and have a "strong personal brand." Just to be some excessively alternative guy with "a sad life." But I think I probably have "a sad life" in a different way that's a little bit more mainstream and means having a salaried job.

You'd told me you're not in New York, right? Do you get out here at all? Do you interact regularly, or at all, with "altbros" and "altbags"? Or is your study of them mostly confined to the Internet?

I am in a relatively "alt" area, but I think the whole concept of the site is "being able to justify your alternative existence" by monitoring websites that are theoretically on the bleeding edge of culture. So while a tween may be disconnected from "fitting in" at his local high school with kids who shop at the local mall, he can find acceptance on the Internet through alternative websites, blogs, social networks, and e-commerce shops. That's sort of why I feel like the "Carles" part of HRO is insignificant, and it probably makes the site easier to digest without "some dude" attached to it. It's more of a naive, bro-like, third-person omniscient tone.

What percentage of what you do is completely sarcastic, as opposed to mostly sarcastic? Are you basically "playing a character"? Are you "in character" now?

I think that right now, I am "out of character, but guarded, but also feel pressure to perform and not alienate potential new readers who might not be interested in this anonymous asshole." I am not sure if I would describe HRO as "sarcastic"-probably more like "too real." I just like the fact that different types of people can come to the site with very different expectations. People who read too many blogs will enjoy its place in the blogosphere as "something different," while I can imagine some teen coming to it as a bible/justification for their alternative lifestyle and attitude problems.

So to what degree did you "mean" that Animal Collective post? A lot of people I know have raved about it-were you surprised at how much attention it got? Did you intend for it to be seen as this epic manifesto?

I think that the "moral fabric" of my site is probably in the musical criticism. I started out as "just another MP3 blog" who eventually got on Hype Machine, but then realized that people can only value a free MP3 so much. When I write about music, I try to write from an identifiable consumer perspective. I think that the Animal Collective post was pretty serious, and maybe just more of a reflection of the era that we have kind of grown into. The post wasn't really even a good post about AnCo, but just more of a timeline of our collective consumer perception since the alternative population started using the Internet to find the "best new music."

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  • ohmygodthere'ssomuchblood 04/27/2011 11:41:00 PM

    Couldn't agree more. Satirical or not, his site is awful to read and a complete waste of time. Branding is something that marketing and corporate types seem to be concerned about ad nauseam and usually within the sphere of advertising. The business vernacular he applies to something so simply appreciated, understood and (sometimes exhaustingly so) analyzed seems so forced and alienating. He's not operating on a higher plane or even asking the more important questions of the 'micro-moment' as you say, but rather he's pontificating within the context of a lexicon that is reserved for people trying to figure out why people buy certain things and how they can sell them more of it. Garbage.

  • DisGuest 01/02/2011 10:39:00 PM

    I wish i never read this, why why why did i read this? HRO would have been so much more fun if i had zero clue about Carles, this guy just seems like a serious, so-so guy whos doing it as a faggy art project, not the the misanthropic humor machine i once saw him for. Carles, why!?

  • Gyrogaddi 12/14/2010 12:24:00 AM

    It seems like the recurring, nagging, strangely comforting practice of (for safety) aborting one's possible attempts at creating a meaningful statement indicate the emergent signs of a type of post-postmodernity I am having a lot of trouble figuring out: I feel like I want to call it transmodernity because of the fact that it is pastiching pastiche, having fully lost interest in subversion AND conventionality (and at that low, stripped state, the way of creating meaning is to fabricate a metanarrative to abide by). I (think?) this disagrees slightly with the definition of transmodernity being thrown around by some, (ie those that classify the new age (and derivative) cultures) but that could possibly be explained by pre/trans fallacy. So here is where I believe new sincerity shows its true face (if not, then fuck it, give it another stupid title). I'm just writing this because I'm an early genZ who can't take the pressures of 'growing up', and truly doesn't want to "have a 'job that I hate' and doesn't really 'allow me to express myself.' ". I use big words to justify my own multilayered confusion and disillusionment with the world set up for me. Thusly, conceptual 'new metanarratives' are a (sincere as transmodern can be) beacon of hope for me. ,./];]',.;\][;,';/,].[;/'],.\/].[;

  • i get it 11/29/2010 12:12:00 AM

    aside from knowing carles, (instant credibility) "i get it". im wondering how you never "got it" village voice bro?. . . im kinda toed that you did this interview carles. how can you transcend "personal brands" via anonymous when you "Carles explains it all". nobody wants to really know what drives you, they just think they do. its the mystique that is hro. hro is more like the older wiser version of everyone else/ God. you have been there and done it before us by choice. now your crying about how you are "struggling with identity" . . . "im over it". ps voice bro the "material things" line is anco commenting at the macro their line in the sand when reflecting on commercial and via the internet critical success and acclaim vs jamming all day for their own ears. the dont care about material things . . . like corvettes but they do care about material things like . . . having food for their kids.. . so they feel the need to produce commercially. the question is "is this at a sacrifice of the integrity of the music?" then they wrote a song about "My girls".

  • eduardo 07/16/2010 12:33:00 AM

    > But I just think it will be a pretty funny "experiment" > when it comes to "online marketing a new buzz band." kind of how techcrunch launched that slate-copmputer, though that failed because the investors were douchebags, whereas an HRO album could succeed if the music is good, or even pretty good.

  • Lee 08/12/2009 2:54:00 AM

    It seems carles is still an enigma, but an enigma with his own t-shirts now. http://flavorwire.com/33326/carles-hipsterrunoff-interview-i-am-carles-shirt

  • chris 04/09/2009 10:47:00 AM

    HRO is always good for a laugh. I love the readers who take it seriously.

  • Carles 03/01/2009 3:54:00 AM

    Carles is rich, Catalan, and probably fancies himself the second coming of Picasso, i.e. harbinger of Surrealism 2.0.

  • wtfbbq 02/20/2009 7:03:00 PM

    Carles' real first name is Carlos, and he's from San Antonio, but i believe he currently resides in Austin. An inside source at the Austinist who got him press passes to FunFunFunFest confirms this, and describes him as "authentic".

  • Katie Liederman 02/16/2009 8:02:00 AM

    Carles' "Girls Night Out" read as derivative stuffwhitepeoplelike.com to me. glaringly so.

  • A Nonnie 02/14/2009 11:51:00 PM

    I'd heard of HRO but never read it. After reading this interview, I probably never will. I am 32 and just cannot understand why so many people slightly younger than me seem absolutely obsessed with concepts of branding/"branding"/personal branding/anything related to marketing. Even if they're only trying to knock down these concepts, they seem obsessed to me. Is it because mass media was really starting to get meta as a novelty when we were coming of age? All those articles about the growth of brand consultants and so forth? How can so many people really have found that stuff that interesting? This guy seems too insecure to identify himself as caring about anything else. The only thing he seems to genuinely care about it what do other non-genuine people (such as crap music bloggers) find interesting at the micro-moment. It's incredibly dull.

  • flowzz 02/10/2009 5:31:00 AM

    y'all, we need shit like this in our pop-culture sphere. If all we have are you a-holes saying stuff like, "suck ur papa's D," where does that take us? What questions does that let us ask ourselves? Don't hate on something, someone, who is making an effort to "critique" the world we live in. Or like, if you have some hate to dish out, check ya IQ score first. THxS!!!

  • flowzz 02/10/2009 5:13:00 AM

    y'all, we need shit like this in our pop-culture sphere. If all we have are you a-holes saying stuff like, "suck ur papa's D," where does that take us? What questions does that let us ask ourselves? Don't hate on something, someone, who is making an effort to "critique" the world we live in. Or like, if you have some hate to dish out, check ya IQ score first. THxS!!!

  • Jais 02/10/2009 4:21:00 AM

    There are so many quotation marks here they've made my head spin.

  • jooooooe 02/09/2009 8:20:00 AM

    F the haters. Carles runs a wildly successful site. You wish you had that sweet am appy cash.

  • Cton 02/06/2009 10:32:00 AM

  • Hunter 02/06/2009 4:44:00 AM

    Carles is the WORST!! What a hater! I like music blogs that are positive - meaning they write about what they like. Carles is such a mundane, boring loser. Job? Yeah right he lives in his parents basement in the burbs!! Anyone, like Carles, who has proclaimed to never have listened to a Bob Marley song, trashes TV on the Radio in a very racist way, and overall hates everything (without doing any music himself) should not even be mentioned in the Voice, let alone a whole article about him. In a year people are gonna have forgotten this two-bit poser!!

  • HipperthanThough 02/06/2009 4:31:00 AM

    Hey Carles, does it feel funny to know that once you stopped sucking your daddy's dick that you would never get ass again?

  • NOah Lennox 02/06/2009 3:14:00 AM

    Pretty sure Carles is in Austin TX

  • E 02/05/2009 10:47:00 PM

    Rob, you do realize that Alts exist outside of NYC, right?

  • RooHoo 02/05/2009 10:26:00 PM

    HR should really consider dropping his overuse of quotation marks to signify conceptual meaning. Quite annoying and it makes his blog unreadable. Might also be nice if he were to cite where his ideas are sourced. Makes him look ridiculous otherwise.

  • Mark Mangan 02/05/2009 10:14:00 PM

    Good article... Here's a blog of "unnecessary quotes". http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/

  • Lance 02/05/2009 5:51:00 PM

    Wow, it's interesting to see the author make repeated attempts to cover his ass just in case he "didn't get it". Like Carles was working on some "higher mental level" and the author didn't want to appear to not understand. Rob, are you not a native internet bro? Have a hard time telling what is sarcasm and what is authentic? Do you still care about the difference?

  • ertret 02/05/2009 10:34:00 AM

    rtertr

  • jim 02/05/2009 9:48:00 AM

    this is carles: http://www.purevolume.com/thestreetsofsanantonio

  • 02/05/2009 1:16:00 AM

    good job everyone

  • Arajay 02/05/2009 12:51:00 AM

    based on his posts i have determined carles to be in/from chicago

  • matt_T 02/04/2009 10:48:00 PM

    h8 u village voice for eating my comment < 3 u carles

 

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