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Another Love TKO: Teens Grapple with Rihanna vs. Chris Brown

An unsettling conversation, to oft-disturbing and potentially lasting effect

It's hard to tell, but maybe she's pursing her lips at me. Or, like any other eighth-grader, maybe she's just irritated about having to spend a whole period with a bunch of seventh-graders—and in an advisory class, no less. After all, what's left to talk about, especially after the fact? There are so many other things a 13-year-old would rather be doing with her time, like tomorrow's homework, or daydreaming, or whatever.

But this Monday morning, at the Talented and Gifted School for Young Scholars in Spanish Harlem, we're going to harp—like it or not—on a subject these kids are way, way over: gender violence against women and girls. And so the bell rings. The kids shuffle in from noisy hallways. And the eye-rolling begins.

Many of these students aren't grasping why we're still riding the Rihanna-and-Chris-Brown drama so hard, more than a month after the "alleged" assault. This isn't an isolated case, or even solely a celebrity drama about the 21-year-old pop princess and her 19-year-old American-idol boyfriend, whose Grammy-eve brawl in Los Angeles resulted in two felony charges against him: It's bigger than tabloid fodder or the countless myths and speculations surrounding the incident. (Brown will be arraigned April 6.) And it has everything to do with these roughly 12- and 13-year-old boys and girls who are about to enter a danger zone: According to DoSomething.org, a New York City–based nonprofit organization, one in three teens will become victims of relationship violence.

Seven boys have filed to one side of the room; 16 girls are huddled on the other. OK, I have a question as serious as cancer: Did Rihanna provoke Chris Brown? The boys are deadpan. And by the looks of it, the girl who was pursing her lips has something to vent, and she does: "All we see is, 'Oh, Chris Brown beat Rihanna up, so she must be so innocent,' " she snaps. "But she must have done something to make him mad." Some of the kids nod in agreement. "My mom told me that we really don't know what happened because we weren't there," she continues. "But as far as I know, she went back to him, so that's her problem."

The girl—whose identity, along with her classmates', is being withheld at the request of the school's principal—is hardly anomalous in her train of thought. Peruse almost any blog or major media outlet that's following the battery case, and chances are that you'll come across postings that zealously defend Brown while squarely placing the blame on Rihanna's shoulders. One such comment, from a teenager—her MTV user profile lists her as being from Washington, D.C.—insists that Rihanna "wasn't beaten to a pulp. The phrase means to beat someone until they are seriously injured and disfigured." The post-attack photo of the singer's battered face, plastered across the Internet by TMZ, evidently didn't suggest she was "seriously injured." The commenter continues, "Someone needs to sit her little tail down and tell her, 'Yes, it's a bad situation that you were abused, but you need to understand it's not OK for you to think you can control and abuse a male with no consequences.' "

An overwhelming majority of the kids here agree: In a class of 23 mostly Latino and African-American students, all but three girls think that Rihanna provoked the beatdown. And once it was rumored that she got back together with Brown after a jaunt at Sean Combs's Miami manse, the critical backlash against the Cover Girl was especially harsh, especially in the case of many of these children's parents. A seventh-grader of African-American and Latino descent slowly raises her hand. "My dad said she's a loser and retarded for going back to him," she says, almost hesitantly. Another bright-eyed seventh-grader chimes in, at lightning speed: "If they want to be, then they are on their own. They decided to go down there together to work it out because—and they did, so it's not Diddy's responsibility if Chris Brown were to beat her again because everybody has their instincts, and if hers is to go and work it out—and it did work out, so . . ."

"We live in a society that reinforces violence as the way to handle conflict, from the government to the schoolyard," says Elizabeth Mendez Berry, a New York City–based journalist who wrote "Love Hurts," an award-winning 2005 Vibe feature about domestic violence in the hip-hop industry. "You might disagree with [Rihanna's] choice, but that doesn't excuse his. I think women are often socialized to empathize more with men than with other women."

Furthermore, it's a pandemic every woman will have to grapple with at some point in her lifetime, regardless of race or class. However, the economy does intersect. According to the Department of Justice, females living in households with lower annual incomes experienced the highest average annual rates of intimate-partner violence in the U.S. If this statistic holds true in the forthcoming years, violence against women will only escalate as Americans (and the rest of the world) continue to be weighed down by economic hardship.

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  • 12/13/2010 6:40:00 PM

    Eww bitch get a life

  • 12/13/2010 6:40:00 PM

    Shut upp wff ur fukinq mouth

  • 12/13/2010 6:39:00 PM

    Yeoo niqqa shut the fuk upp u dont know wat chu tlkin bout bitch

  • SHAKEETA 04/15/2009 8:06:00 PM

    BITCH U IS SO FUCKIN DUM FOR GETTN PREGNANT BY HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..

  • 04/05/2009 8:26:00 PM

    Are these posters for real? No amount of provocation could possibly justify the damage he did to her face. I can't say I'm surprised at their defense of him ("he's HOT"), since US kids today (and one poster who claims to be an adult) are semi-literate at best.

  • commenter 04/02/2009 7:35:00 PM

    I'm just sick of the double standard: we're supposed to judge Chris Brown as an individual capable of making decisions and responsible for his actions - but it's "sexist" to expect Rihanna to take responsibility for any questionable judgment or behavior. No, for *her* we must understand that there are larger forces at work - "destiny", that renders people unable to be held responsible for their own stupidity or something. If it's predestined, if they are both trapped in something large and inescapable, then why judge Chris Brown so harshly? And if it isn't, then stop saying he'll hit again - don't know that, and if we did know it, then it would prove it isn't his fault. If they're both consenting adults, there are no kids involved in this scenario, so I say we let them do what they want - if women are capable of serving in the armed forces as equals, why can't we assume they're capable of equality at home? She's right to prosecute him for the assault, but we need to stop reading into that assault more than what is there. We need to stop using the existence of that assault to make assumptions about what we think is really going on, and what they therefore 'ought' to do. If they as a couple want to work things out, I say more power to them. After all, to the extent that we "know" there is this thing called the "cycle of violence", we know that each of them will continue to be stuck in the pattern until they figure out how to break free - he'll just find another girl to hit and she'll just find another boy to hit her - so why shouldn't they try to fix it together? The reason we 'blame the victim' is because by labeling her a victim, it seems to us perfectly reasonable to assume she is morally obligated to do what WE think she ought to do, she owes it to us to stop being a victim. I believe there is a pattern that exists, and it is for that reason we need to let her and Brown both work things out the best they can, without us jumping into the middle of their fight on one side or the other.

  • hiafa 04/02/2009 7:36:00 AM

    what the hell is wrong with you people,God WOMEN ABUSE MEN ALL THE TIME. one woman just on the news beat her boyfriend up. DAMN leave Chris alone.THANK YOU!!!!! AND I AM NOT A CHILD!

  • Michael Perry 04/02/2009 4:17:00 AM

    One in six instances of domestic violence the woman is the aggressor. When the couple is not co-habitating woman is more likely to be the aggressor.

  • Liz 04/02/2009 2:26:00 AM

    I too wonder why this topic is so openly talked about now. Six months ago, MTV, TMZ, Fox news, CNN and whomever else would not have thought to mention anything about domestic violence, but now since two celebrities are involved- it's become an epidemic that we must all face for the "Rihanna's of the world". What a load of bull. Even before this incident happened, people spoke about violence associating celebrity's name to get the point across i.e. Bobby Brown. Now this child (Chris Brown) has to spend the rest of his life being labeled as something he truly isn't. How sad is it that TMZ rides this dude daily, but an actual account of violence happened to someone unknown and it suddenly became her fault. You guys should venture over to TMZ and see the crap posted, then make an article talking about the acceptance of violence in our community when the person isn't famous. Stop blaming it on the 'naive' teenagers, blame it on the hypocritical parents who expect the media to raise their child. Not everyone thinks Chris Brown is a monster and not everyone thinks Rihanna is an angel. Deal with it. No one knows the truth so just like some of you want to believe she just sat there and did nothing, the same amount of people can believe that she provoked him; not saying she did, not saying she didn't- it's just the truth.

  • sheila 04/02/2009 1:52:00 AM

    This is not surprising. Women are an oppressed group and frequently the oppressed group rises up in support of the oppressor. And like most oppressed groups when they see one of theirs apparently rise above the oppression as most Rock stars do, they secretly envy that person. When that person shows any weakness whatsoever, they will find a reason to openly attack and denigrate. In Rihanna's case, she is from two oppressed groups, black and female. Just by that designation she will have more to overcome than even Chris Brown who is black but male thus a member of one of the oppressing groups. Rihanna is a victim who has lost her reputation, millions of dollars and emotional stability because of Brown's actions. There has not been any credible evidence released by the prosecutor thus far that indicates that she hit Brown first or did anything to warrant such a violent beating. My advice to her is to file a civil suit against Chris Brown for the millions of dollars this has cost her and the damage to her public personna. She should then tour mainly Europe and Asia and steer clear of the US where the female haters mainly reside.

  • rachel 04/01/2009 11:31:00 PM

    Thats sad. Rihanna and Chris were so good together. Chris didnt mean to he was mad at her so its basicly rihannas fault not chris.

  • Megan 04/01/2009 10:02:00 PM

    I love all kinds of music and always have. I have been a huge fan of Rihanna but listened to Chris too. I agree that nobody but those people close to them can truly tell what they may or may not have been thinking. But to imply that Rihanna provoked the "alleged" beating, is ridiculous. If she did find a text from another woman on his phone, I can say that I would have been pretty angry too. Words would have been said, and she may have been aggressive, does that mean what happened to her she asked for and deserved? I think not. I've been with my boyfriend for 5 years and we have NEVER put our hands on eachother. That's irrepairable damage to someone you love. It's shocking that they are back together, yes. It's shocking that she's not listening to anyone in her family about this. It's shocking that Oprah is pleading for her to think about it. If that's what she wants is to continue a relationship with someone who could do that, then that's on her. I can't deny that I was worried that he could hurt her bad next time. I've seen the pictures and was enraged to say the least. But to see pictures of Chris on his skidoo not only laughing and flaunting himself like he feels no remorse, but checking out another girl passing by is kind of a slap in the face, if you will. I think my question is how is Rihanna's confidence? There's something we are not grasping as to what they have that could make their relationship strong enough to endure that type of treatment. If she found that text from another woman, that would be a notch off the 'ole confidence belt, not to mention if she hit him and he "retaliated" and made her face like tenderized meat. But is that provocation on her part?? I have lost total respect for Chris Brown. I still respect him as an artist, but as a human being seeing how he is capable of treating his "love"? That's not behavior towards someone you say you love. There are going to be sides to this because there are Chris fans, and Rihanna fans. And the Rihanna fans are a little pee'd off at Chris for his actions and that they are back together. My prayers are with them and that they do what makes them happy.

  • Megan 04/01/2009 10:01:00 PM

    I love all kinds of music and always have. I have been a huge fan of Rihanna but listened to Chris too. I agree that nobody but those people close to them can truly tell what they may or may not have been thinking. But to imply that Rihanna provoked the "alleged" beating, is ridiculous. If she did find a text from another woman on his phone, I can say that I would have been pretty angry too. Words would have been said, and she may have been aggressive, does that mean what happened to her she asked for and deserved? I think not. I've been with my boyfriend for 5 years and we have NEVER put our hands on eachother. That's irrepairable damage to someone you love. It's shocking that they are back together, yes. It's shocking that she's not listening to anyone in her family about this. It's shocking that Oprah is pleading for her to think about it. If that's what she wants is to continue a relationship with someone who could do that, then that's on her. I can't deny that I was worried that he could hurt her bad next time. I've seen the pictures and was enraged to say the least. But to see pictures of Chris on his skidoo not only laughing and flaunting himself like he feels no remorse, but checking out another girl passing by is kind of a slap in the face, if you will. I think my question is how is Rihanna's confidence? There's something we are not grasping as to what they have that could make their relationship strong enough to endure that type of treatment. If she found that text from another woman, that would be a notch off the 'ole confidence belt, not to mention if she hit him and he "retaliated" and made her face like tenderized meat. But is that provocation on her part?? I have lost total respect for Chris Brown. I still respect him as an artist, but as a human being seeing how he is capable of treating his "love"? That's not behavior towards someone you say you love. There are going to be sides to this because there are Chris fans, and Rihanna fans. And the Rihanna fans are a little pee'd off at Chris for his actions and that they are back together. My prayers are with them and that they do what makes them happy.

  • starr 04/01/2009 3:48:00 PM

    At the end of the day no one was there so we can't say what actually happened but as of now it seems Rihanna is enjoying all the attention she is getting all I know is that I am so over this situation and wish it was not constantly plastered in all the magazines

  • landa 04/01/2009 11:35:00 AM

    yes chris brown did a WRONG thing but like they said we were'nt there and we'll neva knoe the truth.to tell the truth i already hated rihanna but maybe she provoked him maybe she didn't thats none of our business,i still love chris brown,i don't wet my pants everytime i see him or listen to his music we shouldn't judge his music we love his music,movies and his face i mean the dudes HOT no lie abt that.chris brown has fans all over the world so don't say he's nt 'globally' famous ,i've been to asia and africa don't lie to urself pple love him.'m in high xool and right nw i cn tell you this pple can't wait for his new album and we have like 463 signatures of his true fans,that proves that he's still THE PRINCE OF POP aha

  • Marcus 04/01/2009 7:26:00 AM

    We will see how much support each gets when it is time for them to go back to work. Besides, Rihanna is 21 now. She's a young adult, not a kid, and her image is much more mature than Brown's as it is. I could not figure out why she was even dating this young guy. They may only be a year apart, but she seems much older than him for some reason. So, in the end, she will not have to depend on these young dumb, females who hate other women in order to fuel her career. Rihanna also has a larger mainstream fanbase. Brown, on the other hand, has had a much smaller fan base to begin with, especially globally, and is made up of young girls who pee their pants over him. He will have to start selling to older folks now and older folks are not as forgiving of his actions. Good luck with that. Must of these young girls did not like Rihanna anyway. You should see the way she's been slammed for dating Brown. It is little wonder these girls now hate her. Young females are their own worse enemies and always will be. It is what it is.

 

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