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05/22/2012 1:08:00 AM
PreferAnce; PUSSED; EXPLOTS nice job!
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Genius 05/08/2012 3:43:00 AM
Why do you care who queer women have sex with? I can assure you, it won't be you.
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03/30/2012 7:23:00 AM
Sexy? YES!
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03/11/2012 12:12:00 AM
Please....Rachel Maddow sexy? Smug yes. Sexy? No way!
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Peop 12/28/2011 2:58:00 AM
I think she is ok. Watch her every night.she is smart and funny.who cares about her sexual preferance. If I was a woman I be pussed on how fox explots woman
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Harvey Berman 05/14/2011 11:49:00 AM
I like her - she is which is witty, intelligent and honest. She and her staff must spend a lot of time researching the material. She is a breath of fresh air in an industry that only spouts tiny morsels of intellect.
A Fan Harvey Berman
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Gold 04/25/2011 6:05:00 PM
This article is so out of touch and out of date--man hating butch lesbians? Where did that come from save the homophobia of your readership. Bringing me to the comments, WHOA, how appallingly offensive and closed-minded are you all? Yikes! After reading this article and thinking "wow Village Voice is rally ignorant about glbtq issues and/or is presenting itself as such to accommodate a backward readership," I read just a smattering of comments where I was treated to homophobia/hatred, misogyny and sexism as well as antisemitism, just for a random sampling. Holy Christ, I sincerely hope y'all don't live in or near the village.
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Segan 02/01/2011 1:09:00 PM
Hot babe? Cheese and Crackers, Jim, do you need new glasses? I'll buy you some.
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Segan 02/01/2011 1:07:00 PM
Is this a sick joke? What man in his right mind "desires" Rachel Madcow? Also, I thought butch was homophobic? Or can you only say it if you're queer?
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Badwookie 01/29/2011 1:44:00 AM
Holy shit!! "desired by men". Are you fucking kidding me? She's a smug, mean harpy. Watch Fox News. Screw the "fair and balanced" bullshit. They have good looking women. The latest one I've seen is a business reporter named Lauren Simonetti. I don't know if the young lady could explain supply and demand, but she is beautiful. And she seems like a nice woman. I want BABES on my newscasts, not FUGLEE dykes. This article is complete crap. The author doesn't even sound like she believes what she is writing. If MSNBC want market share they need to get some chicks on that men want to look at. What man desires her? Christ, just look at her! I'll start watching more left leaning programming when they get some women on that I would enjoy fucking. There have to be all kinds of smart, sexy lefty chicks out there. Let's get them on MSNBC now.
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Mtb71 01/29/2011 1:22:00 AM
Seen her a few times. Oxford educated Rhode's Scholar and no doubt really intelligent. But my read on her is that she is a mean bitch. She and her colleagues on MSNBC seem to delight in acting like mean teenagers, making fun of the kids whose parents can't afford the coolest clothes. Nobody likes a prissy, officious fag, and nobody likes a mean, mannish dyke. If that sounds intolerant, tough titties. She is the left's answer to Ann Coulter. She has no audiance either.
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netninja 11/24/2010 8:04:00 PM
Maddow has a nasty attitude and is totally contrived. She needs , a muzzle, training in logic and above all a good ass kicking .
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jim 10/20/2010 3:11:00 AM
who gives a crap what religion she practices. i guess if your a jew you always want to toot your horn. who gives a r--s a-s she a hot babe on tv. she is smart and out going . what do you want joan rivers or maybe barbra wawa dog ugly.
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jim 10/20/2010 3:11:00 AM
who gives a crap what religion she practices. i guess if your a jew you always want to toot your horn. who gives a r--s a-s she a hot babe on tv. she is smart and out going . what do you want joan rivers or maybe barbra wawa dog ugly.
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ib42 09/23/2010 2:13:00 PM
Rachel Maddow is the one I'd pit against any repuglican ina ny debate about anything! This lovely woman is utterly and completely brilliant, and her sarcastic wit is a joy to behold...er, behear?
Always a turn on in every way..but always at the very top of her game, I salute you,Rachel Maddow!
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Haters 08/24/2010 3:49:00 AM
I think she's great...then again I'm 19 and I belong to a much more accepting generation and way of thinking. Who really cares how she looks? I just want to hear her tell the facts for a change.
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Joey Boots 04/26/2010 10:16:00 AM
Rachel Maddow desired by straight men?
You are kidding right?
1) She is ugly
2) She is smug
3) She is a hypocrite
4) Did I mention ugly?
Let me give you a big hint - there is less than 1/10 of 1% of straight men who would ever even touch this woman.
She is hideous.
You are making this crap up to sell a story that doesn't exist.
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Confused 02/21/2010 10:51:00 AM
If the concept of being "lesbian" is described as a female-to-female affinity, an attraction by one female to another that is female, why then does the concept of "butch" (one whom is female that harbors an attraction to one that is feminine yet manifests a desire to present as masculine) exist? Indeed! Does it not in fact defy the very concept of what it is to be a lesbian?
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Jersey Devil 02/21/2010 10:21:00 AM
The New Sexy - you're kidding, right???
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jpbowler 08/02/2009 10:37:00 AM
I have been a big Rachel fan during Obamas' campaign. I read a really unfunny column that outed her to me. I was shocked by my reaction to the unfunny crap. I never noticed, cared, or interested in her sexuality. She is stone network anchor smart. If Katie Couric can ask again and again a question that showed how dumb Sarah Palin was, then Rachel is the new Cronkite. BTW,anyone watch Bill Maher last night? Funniest, smartest, and honest show on the air. Bill said, "We will show you Obamas' birth certificate when you produce Sarah Palins' High School Diploma"!!! Thet were laughing so hard we were betting on who explode first, Rachel or Bill. Why do conservatives love animals so much, but hate people???
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Alyxherself 07/17/2009 11:00:00 AM
So if I tile the floor and finish the drywall in my old-navy carpenter pants and do-rag then take a shower, slip into a pretty sun dress and make gnocchi like your gramma used to, what am I? Oh yeah...human.
I am lesbian because I love a woman, and a woman loves me. Enough with the gender identification. It's a whole different mind set separate from being a lesbian.
All it takes to define oneself as a lesbian is loving and being loved by another woman. Not clothes. Geez. Let's let the young girls define the evoloution of queer identification without laying all this old skool crap on them.
Fine, thanks for your groundbreaking and suffering of days gone yore, that you dressed like a man to be spotted by interested women. Cause that's why you did it, to get freaky leg. No matter, it is much appreciated by a whole opening culture, we love you. But no one has to be gender identified to be queer, not that there's anything wrong with being gender identified, and a hot woman is a hot woman to me, unless she's had reassignment surgery, then she's not and never was a woman, no?
I think its kinda scary and off putting for young women who feel they need to "identify" to have some authenticity in queer culture. Ya wanna play tough, be who you are. That's tough enough for me.
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Shapeshift 07/16/2009 11:16:00 PM
This article blunted my cognition, what is outdated is the mentality behind the writing. Social recycling needs another 50yrs at the state level, as evidenced by the Sotomayor hearings, and the supposed great white way. Although, as far as sexuality is concerned Rachel Maddow is NORMAL in all ways. I'm 33 in a homosexual relationship for 11 yrs I'm from NY and perceive here as just another anchor with more level diction. Look at the youth of our country, aside from the people predisposed to mocking what is different (reflecting parental suggestion or local perception), there is a new understanding of individuality and people are people so why should it be, that you and I get along so awfully.
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amynicole 07/08/2009 10:40:00 PM
This article angers me in many ways, but I'll try to keep this brief.
"Maddow may even be opening a window for straight men to explore their own homoerotic desires. 'Maddow is beautiful, has short hair and wears boy clothes, and has a raw sexuality,' Conant says. 'Guys see Rachel Maddow as a smart dude who has a vagina and eyeliner.'"
This is so offensive and unfortunately I've seen a lot of it in the press. Rachel is being used as a sexual tool for men- straight and gay- who feel confused about their sexuality because they are attracted to this lesbian on TV. This is simply another form of the sexualization of all women in society. To me, Rachel is a straight-up butch (which she has confirmed publicly) who has to femme it up for camera to gain mainstream acceptance. It makes me sad that she can't just be herself. Some butches are very masculine and do indeed like to "look like dudes." Just because some lesbians don't understand that doesn't mean a damn thing. That's why we're a varied bunch, we are all attracted to different things. To name this form of butch presentation an "old stereotype" neglects real people's real gender identities, which only creates more ignorance and forced assimilation of queers. And why are you quoting Oprah, who is notoriously ignorant about queer politics, and not someone well-versed on the topic?
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thecunt 07/08/2009 10:00:00 PM
butch is back? are you kidding?! thank god butch never left is more like it! from what i have read, Maddow is a self defined butch. she is nasty hot in my book...sans makeup. the Maddow on TV is a character played by a hot butch. Ellen? as far as i know, she has no self defined public gender expression. because of that fact, she doesn't even radar on my butch meter (among other reasons).
to say that butches have no fashion sense is such a joke. there are a lot of us ladies AND MEN out here that melt over this non-exsistant butch fashion. not to mention - this article speaks to the farse that there are only two genders and that this androgynous style is somehow new. urgh.
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Gen 07/08/2009 9:30:00 PM
this article is horrific.
�although, as a butch, maybe i should start exploring my fashion options instead of hating men. maybe i could take my boots off and get a pedi? anything to be able to say:
�I�m a butch who tries to put fabulosity into the game.�
maybe fabulosity is what i�ve been missing all along. and thank god the butch gender is finally being considered attractive to some men. i finally feel legitimate. FABULOUSLY LEGITIMATE.
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ButchLover 07/03/2009 2:57:00 AM
I am a femme who loves butches.
I wouldn't even think of Rachel or Ellen as attractive to me. My butches care about their suits, shirts, ties, perfumes, haircuts, boxers... They can be super fashionable and interested in style, they can spend a lot of time in the bathroom, but they do not wear eyeshadow and eyeliner goddammit !
And some of my butches don't give a shit about style, are fat and have a bad skin and acohol problems and they are sexy to me too. Queer is not a new trend, it's a political methodology of questioning and deconstruction of norms. What is unsexy to the mainstream is sexy to me - yes, the fat, mannish, ugly dyke.
Not caring about whether men are attracted to you, when you're a lesbian, is pretty usual - not what I'd call being a manhater.
My butches are not "the new butch", I don't think "the new butch" exists, she's just a stereotype, something to write an article about, I guess.
The fact that butches wear eyeliner so that they will seem acceptable to the audience when they're on TV, is not really a major social change. Two of them are now tolerated on screens, but one of them is an intellectual, trendy-nerdy-hipster butch, and the other one is less butch than my mother is, although my mum is totally straight. Ellen isn't more butch than Hillary Clinton, is she ?
"The Butch is Back" ? No, she was there all this time, the media just made her invisible. She is now negociating some visibility, and being white, "pretty", mainstream and middle-upper-class are the conditions of the deal.
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GiveMeaFreakinBreak 07/01/2009 3:58:00 PM
Rachel Maddow is not desired by straight men. Sorry to burst your bubble. The writer sounds like she desires Maddow, but that's another matter. Gay men may admire her ability to wax off all the facial hair. But straight males neither watch her nor find her sexually attractive. Speaking as one, I find her annoying. Why can't the left get any hotties like the right wing chicks on Fox? There's such a paucity of hot women on our side of the fence that the writer of this article has to strain like she's copping a giant squat to make it sound like Maddow's hot. That's why Fox still kicks liberal backside.
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The Central Scruitinizer 07/01/2009 8:05:00 AM
I'm convinced Rachael Maddow is actually Bronson Pinchot in drag.
COUSIN LARRY!!!!
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Audrey 06/29/2009 8:44:00 PM
I'm a feminine lesbian and I hate butches. I think they look like men. And since when did masculinity become synonymous with power and strength? The strongest women I've ever met in my life were feminine and I've met more than a few self-destructive, crazy, alcoholic butches so lesbians who think that by being masculine, they are being stronger, have been brainwashed by society. Thank God many mainstream lesbians these days understand that they don't need to be butch in order to be gay.
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Somervilleslug 06/29/2009 8:31:00 AM
I can't believe the ignorant, lame stereotypes in this article! "Old" butches were man-haters?! Who writes this drivel, and based on what anti-lesbian prejudices? Depressing what passes for journalism these days...
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miss jo 06/27/2009 6:44:00 PM
Mainstream straight society and mainstream lesbian culture too often mistakes androgynous for butch. Yes, there are degrees of butch but Ellen does not even register on my butch-o-metre and nor does Maddow. So, butches have discovered eyeshadow, embody pretty and have liberated themselves from compulsory masculinity? This would be so, so, very depressing if it were actually true. But just in case I'm wrong - make mine an extra Butch!
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Ann 06/27/2009 2:41:00 AM
I read the article hoping to see something new, but there wasn't anything. Rachel is terrific regardless, but I agree with Xanadu about labels. I've never understood why they're necessary either. People are who they are. Michelle is right about Rachel being catholic, apparently being raised in a very catholic household including a couple aunts who are nuns. And to Mike, yes there are men who find her attractive. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but you do not speak for all men. One of my closest straight male friends loves her, for her mind, dry sense of humor and her good looks...it's not just us girls!
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C.J. 06/27/2009 1:27:00 AM
Rachel Maddow is an inspiration to cute (not gorgeous), intellectual butch lesbians everywhere. Or at least to this one. I applied to Cornell (and got in) after finally realizing that's who and what I was. And Rachel Maddow helped make that difference for me.
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WifeinPants 06/26/2009 5:06:00 PM
Just because Ellen wears pants does not mean that she -em- wears the pants in the family. Just ask my wife. Perpetuate.
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Alex 06/26/2009 1:35:00 AM
The article makes a lot of good points about blending gender binaries and this and that, but I think there's too much emphasis placed on how butch women are portrayed on television. Rachel Maddow and Ellen Degeneres fall on the masculine end of the spectrum, yes, but calling this the 'new butch' really ignores the massive gay culture that doesn't make it to television.
The days of Doc Martens and crew cuts are not gone -- these women were just never (or very rarely) acknowledged in the public eye and on mass media, and still aren't. There's a lot of us out there, and we're not wearing makeup. I think people are just becoming accustomed to seeing the more androgynous lesbian.
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Michelle 06/25/2009 11:10:00 AM
Oh Xanadu, are you flirting with me? No need to be so coy.
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Xanadu Xero 06/25/2009 7:38:00 AM
Sadly, Michelle, you lag in Reading Comprehension. Damn our underfunded schools.
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Michelle 06/25/2009 5:25:00 AM
Xanadu Xero, dear she's not Jewish, like she's not straight. That is a fact. You can't just make up facts.
Mike, lots of men have expressed an attraction to Maddow.
Still, the reason this article makes no sense is because Rachel Maddow and definitely Ellen Degeneres are from the older generation which this article appears to trash and stereotype. It's like some kind of generational self-loathing. Oh the number of times I heard that old stereotype that I was a "man-hater" when I was a gay teenager in the 90s. It was false then, and it's false now. The best part is that Rachel Maddow's own in-article quotes, and the interview pretty much refutes this article. That she is in fact not trying to be pretty. It's all you putting that on her, it's all you over-sexualizing her.
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Mike 06/24/2009 11:33:00 PM
Men are not attracted to Rachel Maddow. She is not an "icon," nor does she represent a "trend." Quit inventing news about a non-entity.
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DIck Johnson 06/24/2009 6:52:00 PM
Rachel Maddow? No.
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NowIWillNeverBeCool 06/24/2009 5:49:00 PM
"you ain't no Outlaw of any stripe if you choose to choose Identity A or Identity B, then skidaddle to conform"
See but, the best thing is when labels are DEscriptive, not PREscriptive. When it describes how you are, not how you ought to be. Some women are butch and that's descriptive. I spend some time in dyke-y circles that flip-flop gender either way, and it's awesome.
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Xanadu Xero 06/24/2009 9:26:00 AM
Michelle dear, 'Nice Jewish Girl' is not a label. It is a fact and/or a state of mind. Put that in your pipe and cognize.
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Michelle 06/24/2009 8:18:00 AM
Two words for this article: Cognitive Dissonance.
And to the poster who said Rachel is a Nice Jewish Girl...yeah, about those labels...maybe try French and Catholic.
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Xanadu Xero 06/24/2009 6:56:00 AM
You've slammed into my Big Thesis: LEFT IS RIGHT IN SLUTTIER OUTFITS. Humans so lamely twitchy to classify things.
'Butch' or 'Femme' = 'Democrat' or 'Republican'. Etc. Always Either/Or = always stupid. DID YOU KNOW People can be Who They Are *UNIQUELY*, without a label and you ain't no Outlaw of any stripe if you choose to choose Identity A or Identity B, then skidaddle to conform.
Rachel Maddow is lovely, and pretty, a hardworking Nice Jewish Girl. Drooling words about which sex she prefers rubbing her hoo-ha is... inane.
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M. Rhodes 06/24/2009 6:28:00 AM
What is this a Voice piece from 1992-HELLO!
straight is the new gay!