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04/13/2012 8:29:00 PM
This precise circumstance took place to me previously this twelve months. I was assaulted along with the police who documented to your scene in addition because the detective assigned to my situation turned the tables on me, as if I experienced accomplished some thing mistaken. The detective did one in every of those "callbacks" was quite nasty and accused me of lying. He dropped the situation. I even have an officer on recording saying that its not genuinely an assault unless youre bruised bloody and damaged. I requested, so youre telling me that anyone can walk approximately you on the road in NYC and punch you from the experience and you wouldnt look into that? Nope. I hope someone does a further probe into this circumstance, I'd prefer to hear updates abt any instances/ upcoming articles or blog posts.
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03/31/2012 3:04:00 AM
This actual scenario transpired to me earlier this year. I was assaulted and the police who noted to the scene likewise because the detective assigned to my case turned the tables on me, as if I obtained done some thing improper. The detective did considered one of individuals "callbacks" was very nasty and accused me of lying. He dropped the situation. I even have an officer on recording stating that its not definitely an assault except youre bruised bloody and damaged. I asked, so youre telling me that any person can walk nearly you on the st in NYC and punch you inside deal with and you also wouldnt examine that? Nope. I hope a person does a further probe into this predicament, I'd prefer to listen to updates abt any instances/ upcoming content.Seo Seo Seo Seo Seo Seo Seo Seo
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Yes-I Garvey 03/11/2012 5:20:00 PM
its been awhile since i saw it but i remember that movie as communicating that nothing was likely to ever change about urban police corruption ...
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SD 11/26/2011 6:16:00 AM
This exact scenario happened to me earlier this year. I was assaulted and the police who reported to the scene as well as the detective assigned to my case turned the tables on me, as if I had done something wrong. The detective did one of those "callbacks" was very nasty and accused me of lying. He dropped the case. I even have an officer on recording saying that its not really an assault unless youre bruised bloody and broken. I asked, so youre telling me that anyone can walk up to you on the street in NYC and punch you in the face and you wouldnt investigate that? Nope. I hope someone does a further probe into this situation, I'd like to hear updates abt any cases/ upcoming articles.
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11/21/2011 4:08:00 PM
Thinking about Mr. Schoolcraft... allegiance to the truth despite strong social pressures to back down, tenacity, a fondness for electronic gadgetry, unmarried... might the Asperger's Syndrome community claim him proudly as one of their own?
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Guest 11/06/2011 1:37:00 AM
I find it absolutely terrifying what is happening within our government, and society.
I'm starting to understand the mindset of some of the older people who get a decent job in a sector populated with smart, intelligent people, and try to ignore the rest of the world as much as possible.
I would die if I ever became a cop. My moral fiber, so to speak, would have me engaging every bad cop that I came across. Most cops are poorly educated and very aggressive, and I have no doubt that I would eventually be killed by one of the cops I was attempting to have fired.
I'm not the only one with this mindset. So, you can pretty much guarantee that our best and brightest definitely aren't going into law enforcement these days. Which means out law enforcement community will only become MORE saturated with these thugs as time passes.
Funny how our society is advancing on the surface, but degrading at the core.
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Guest 11/06/2011 1:05:00 AM
we wouldn't have to call anybody if we could properly arm ourselves. But, we all know what happens when a citizen carries a gun; the cops get all agitated and cause problems for that person. So, I find it laughable when you claim that citizens are helpless, when you support that very helplessness.
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Guest 10/23/2011 3:47:00 PM
What is so disturbing to me is that we have been though this before and that
I haven't seen ANYONE MENTION SERPICO! That is disturbing. This
story reads like Serpico's almost exactly. The fact that that was 40 years ago...have people forgotten that? Has the police department forgotten that? Maybe we need another movie to make it "real".
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10/23/2011 3:28:00 PM
The whole story is appalling, but the single most interesting tidbit is that it is happening all over the world. A systematic tightening on enforcement officials, a tightening that is ILLEGAL. This is not accidental. Call me a conspiracist and make fun of me, but this is planned and preparing the whole world for something very bad. Humanity is about to take a giant step backwards, IMO.
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Bail Bondsman 08/06/2011 9:40:00 AM
Interesting article where you learn amongst other things: - â€oethat precinct bosses threaten street cops if they don't make their quotas of arrests and stop-and-frisks, but also tell them not to take certain robbery reports in order to manipulate crime statisticsâ€; -... more
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07/27/2011 11:40:00 AM
There are two tables, three chairs, and a podium used by supervisors to address the cops.
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07/04/2011 9:49:00 AM
not only are the neighborhoods where these sort of crimes against the public being gentrified but the people of these neighborhoods are being silenced while eliminated.
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Nyccitizen 06/25/2011 12:01:00 AM
I was once arrested on 125th for a suspended license. I showed the PO the records of the paid fine right then and there and I was told that they still had to take me in. As my papers were being processed those same POs left the precinct and within five minutes came back with another man in handcuffs. I swear it felt like these POs were fishing in a fish tank. I chalked it up as racism but now understand it to be a deeper problem. The end result: poor people- usually black- suffer because they are the people least able to defend themselves against this bureaucracy. They are the victims of the NYC that the mayor's office is creating. Thus not only are the neighborhoods where these sort of crimes against the public being gentrified but the people of these neighborhoods are being silenced while eliminated. I thank the village voice for such a complete and thorough report on what clearly should be on every front page paper across the entire nation but as a sign of the times, the media is more concerned with a Weiner. People, we should be very nervous of where our civil liberties are heading. I'm sad to say that nothing major will come out of this. We should all be up in arms....
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05/06/2011 8:09:00 PM
blocks going through gentrification
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04/22/2011 10:40:00 AM
i wish you a good luck too..
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04/20/2011 7:01:00 PM
officers are subject to inspection and are given training.
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04/20/2011 4:36:00 AM
A real statesman would know that without the unspoken trust by the people of their police, fire and other government officers, there is no government. But boomberg is truly a legend in his own mind.
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04/18/2011 7:30:00 AM
all the people would agree that when money is involved anything is possible. It is a shame to see that the city's public servants and protectors are mere pawns to Boomberg aristocracy.
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John 12/04/2010 6:32:00 AM
kkkk
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brutus 11/03/2010 12:50:00 AM
For those of you who've neer been through the NYPD's arrest mill: you should also be aware that there is another, unspoken of quota: the arrest quota. Uniformed cops must bring in a certain amount, (in precincts I know), of arrests every month and, often numbers of cops will set up one of their number with a telescope on a dealer and a radio who tells them who to bust and where the drugs are stashed. They will selectively arrest people who buy: they never bust the dealer. Only a minority of unlucky buyers, usually from outside the neighborhood.
The arrestees are chained together and dragged along until the cops have enough to "fill" the quotas of the other cops who need the busts. Many such people so arrested have their cases dismissed by the ADA's who can't stand such bad cases. So the cops are "just going through the motions" to please their commanders and their higher ups.
The arrested people are often not even allowed into a courtroom to contest the action and their paperwork is confiscated at the courthouse so it's their word against the cop's that they even got arrested!
These arrests are reminiscent of the court feeding "chow" from the "Bonfire of the Vanities." Without so many "Bullshit" arrests, most of the cops would, in fact be redundant and might get fired and have to resort to bank robbery, loan sharking or other criminal activity to support their families.
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abdul rahaman 10/17/2010 5:10:00 PM
Being an ex New Yorker, I expected that things had the potential of going real bad in a gentrified Bloomberg township. It is disheartening to see it be this bad. Money rules. I remember when I was growing up in New York all the people would agree that when money is involved anything is possible. It is a shame to see that the city's public servants and protectors are mere pawns to Boomberg aristocracy. I am certain that lord boomberg does not give one fat f. about the effect this kind of police work has had on the working stiff. the average citizen and the average cop are at odds with each other. The seeds of contempt, anger and fear are planted between the cop and citizen. A real statesmen would clean up this problem as if it were "the plague". A real statesman would know that without the unspoken trust by the people of their police, fire and other government officers, there is no government. But boomberg is truly a legend in his own mind. "Yertle the turtle was king of all he could see. But even if he stood on his subjects back, all he could see was mud".. the late, great Dr. Zeuss- not a putz. Good luck, New Yorkers. It sounds like it is hard to "keep the faith". At least the Village Voice is holding up as a great bastion for democracy and the principles of freedom of speech and the press. And judging from the lack of coverage, I guess some punta, putz did buy or otherwise gain control of the N.Y. Times. "all the news that's print to fit". As Jesus was reported to have commented, "Mr. Boomberg, baby, the chances of a rich man going to heaven are like a camel walking through the eye of a needle". Not so good, unless you decide to grow a set, you putz... Who loves ya, baby?
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abdul rahaman 10/17/2010 5:10:00 PM
Being an ex New Yorker, I expected that things had the potential of going real bad in a gentrified Bloomberg township. It is disheartening to see it be this bad. Money rules. I remember when I was growing up in New York all the people would agree that when money is involved anything is possible. It is a shame to see that the city's public servants and protectors are mere pawns to Boomberg aristocracy. I am certain that lord boomberg does not give one fat f. about the effect this kind of police work has had on the working stiff. the average citizen and the average cop are at odds with each other. The seeds of contempt, anger and fear are planted between the cop and citizen. A real statesmen would clean up this problem as if it were "the plague". A real statesman would know that without the unspoken trust by the people of their police, fire and other government officers, there is no government. But boomberg is truly a legend in his own mind. "Yertle the turtle was king of all he could see. But even if he stood on his subjects back, all he could see was mud".. the late, great Dr. Zeuss- not a putz. Good luck, New Yorkers. It sounds like it is hard to "keep the faith". At least the Village Voice is holding up as a great bastion for democracy and the principles of freedom of speech and the press. And judging from the lack of coverage, I guess some punta, putz did buy or otherwise gain control of the N.Y. Times. "all the news that's print to fit". As Jesus was reported to have commented, "Mr. Boomberg, baby, the chances of a rich man going to heaven are like a camel walking through the eye of a needle". Not so good, unless you decide to grow a set, you putz... Who loves ya, baby?
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T 10/05/2010 9:13:00 AM
Having lived in Bed-Stuy for two years now, I understand why residents here in Bed-Stuy do not trust the police or have any desire to cooperate with the police. I have witnessed blatant police harassment to African Americans, most of whom I've witnessed did nothing serious, petty offenses like walking with an open container that was not alcohol or just sitting on a stoop. I have also personally experienced police writing me a summons for petty offenses like riding my bicycle on the sidewalk, and no one was on the sidewalk or even in peak-time hours. In short, the sidewalk was free and clear and actually safer to ride than on the street because of the numerous double-parked delivery trucks.
The police nowadays do not care about race. It's all about keeping their numbers so that they can report productivity. I am in no way saying cops are race-blinded, because African Americans get the worst treatment by the police. I understand why Ice-T and others have disdain for the police.
The police in Bed-Stuy and almost every other part of Brooklyn are corrupted into issuing summons. Listen to the link for this story that appeared on "This American Life":
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
If you don't believe the article or think African Americans are making all this up, think again after you hear the evidence. It's WRONG.
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T 10/05/2010 9:13:00 AM
Having lived in Bed-Stuy for two years now, I understand why residents here in Bed-Stuy do not trust the police or have any desire to cooperate with the police. I have witnessed blatant police harassment to African Americans, most of whom I've witnessed did nothing serious, petty offenses like walking with an open container that was not alcohol or just sitting on a stoop. I have also personally experienced police writing me a summons for petty offenses like riding my bicycle on the sidewalk, and no one was on the sidewalk or even in peak-time hours. In short, the sidewalk was free and clear and actually safer to ride than on the street because of the numerous double-parked delivery trucks.
The police nowadays do not care about race. It's all about keeping their numbers so that they can report productivity. I am in no way saying cops are race-blinded, because African Americans get the worst treatment by the police. I understand why Ice-T and others have disdain for the police.
The police in Bed-Stuy and almost every other part of Brooklyn are corrupted into issuing summons. Listen to the link for this story that appeared on "This American Life":
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
If you don't believe the article or think African Americans are making all this up, think again after you hear the evidence. It's WRONG.
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Feodor 09/24/2010 10:35:00 AM
Here is tale straight out of Arkipelag Gulag of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. If I am Adrian Schoolcraft, I am demanding to get federal witness protection program. These corrupt criminals WILL kill if they can.
What a travesty out of Stalinist Soviet Union!!!
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bumblefoot2004 09/18/2010 1:16:00 AM
This cop is going to be looking for a new job...
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will 09/16/2010 12:29:00 PM
Why is it always a big suprise when shit like this is sunshined. We are a police state and this crap will go on forever. The sad part is not that but that it will only get worse. I sold soda pop, kinishes and fudgiwuges on brighton beach in 1969. Paid off under the boardwalk brooklyn's finest, you remember, Knapp, etc., so what is the big suprise?
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Steve 09/16/2010 8:56:00 AM
I live in Philly -- don't know NYC -- but I probably there is a quota system here, also. If there was no quota system for "public offenses" like parking in front of someone's driveway so the home owner can not use his driveway; driving while talking on a cell phone; double parking anytime, anywhere -- the police would never issue any tickets at all for these "offenses and violations". No policeman likes doing it. It does "hurt" their realationship with the community in one way, but also if they don't do it it "hurts" their relation in another. If you are old and low income like me and you can't move out of your community --- like a cop making $50,000 a year or more, and you don't give quality of life tickets then I perceive it as if you don't care about me or my neighborhood. You don't live here, you don't care to live here so you let things go only because you can go home somewhere else and you don't want to waste your time on these petty complainTs! But to me they are important-- they affect my life -- even the value of my home -- such "little crimes" have stolen greatly form people like me and from the aule of the homes we can afford. You don't worry about me in that sense and of course now that I may be the "minority" and I'm old and so what --why respond to me when I really don't count, or am not much of a difference in the area where I live.(That's what I feel is being transmitted by Mr. Graham Rayman and the policeoffice who did wan to "write up the small stull" -- Mr. Schoolcraft. It is wrong to rob, steal, kill, murder etc. and it is also wrong to throw paper in the street, play music loud, not shovel the pavement of snow, not care about changing your oil in the street, etc, etc., etc! If you are rich or poor you should consider all aspects of your neighborhood as important -- and so should the police who serve there -- and have to deal with all crime big or little. (I do not pay my taxes to protect me from big or little crimes but ALL CRIMES THAT AFFECT ME! Should I send in my taxes only to pay for big crimes?) Police corruption --- that isa terrible thing and you certainly exposed that -- it is a tragic wrong. But a policeman who is wired and when other don't can certainly "fake it" and act different to collect information on those who don't -- he has a purpose to fulfill. While he will pick up the crimes of others -- he will keep his own crimes (or intentions) hidden. Maybe all police should be wired - that way they will all act like Mr. Schoolcrafft "acted" while he was wired and treat everyone fairly. If Mr. Schoolcraft was so noble about what he was doing he could enter into a class action suit asking for only $1 plus the costs that may be associated with the cost of the legal fees -- then he would show that he was sincere and not interested in making money! It would also mean that the money used in a settlement could instead be used to fight crime -- both withing and outside of the police department; big and small crime.
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Scott Rubel 09/16/2010 5:39:00 AM
Oh, man. We might as well dissolve the PD and let the mafia run law enforcement. We would probably be safer. These pigs are more criminal because of what they do behind the badge. I don't know how a court case against the PD could take any longer than listening to the tapes for an hour.
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Rochelle 09/12/2010 4:00:00 AM
What a bunch of lousy human beings.
Very sad story!
Law enforcement lawbreakers.
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Outraged 08/27/2010 9:40:00 PM
To Off Duty: Cops are public servants in service of the citizens. They are people too but the fact that they have "faults" is not the citizens' concern. "To obey and Serve" means to obey and serve the people and not the White Power supremacy or the quotas put out by it. You could also apply your argument to the cops who used dogs against civil rights activists. If that is your view then, you are nothing but a coward and a tool used by the White Power supremacy. A rape is not a "bad hair day", pig!
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Concernedcitizen 07/03/2010 1:43:00 AM
To "Off Duty" below:
I would never, ever call a cop if I was in trouble. Last summer, I was attacked and when I spoke to a police officer, he told me it was "just another fight" and in so many words, blamed me for provoking my attackers. This is one of many similar encounters I've had or witnessed with police officers, who I was taught were given taxpayers' money in return for protection. I was not surprised by this article or these tapes at all. It is general knowledge in my community as well as in my college town that police officers harass citizens in order to fill quotas and belittle complaints of actual crimes, often through intimidation of victims. Call me naive, but I would like to think that as police officers, hired to "serve and protect" us, Sir, you would hold yourselves to higher standards. I will not call a police officer when my "shit hits the fan", as you so eloquently put, until I think they will actually care.
Also, "Off Duty", your anger with all us "shit-for-brains imbeciles" with "venal and worthless existence[s]" clearly shows why you became a cop in the first place. Congratulations, you seem really happy.
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juan 06/22/2010 4:26:00 PM
Did he died?
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Nicholas Chillis 06/22/2010 9:17:00 AM
This police cover up is more wide spread then just 81st precinct. I was fighting a case with the cover up the rape of my 11yr.old daughter for 6 months before the first post artical and I was determend to persue it to the very end. Please, please contact me dont let politics get in the way I have all the proof necesary all of the agencies Ive contacted the DA's office blklyn and Manh. the civil liberty union Legal aide the womans bar asso. the NY bar Asso. Congressman Ed Towns,Charles Barron Office,the bar in Albany and no one responded and all of this was six months before the very first police cover artical that was in the post and months before the Village Voice.
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Off Duty 06/21/2010 11:35:00 PM
OK....ok.....keep your pants on already! This story is just another hatchet-job jab at the Department which is operating in an out of control world.
When I came on the job in 1969, (and things weren’t all that great back then either), I came as a genuine article....trying to change the world and willing to put my money where my mouth was. 38 years later, (yes, I'm now retired and living on my second-grader pension), I have to wonder how it all held together....at all.
What many commentators here seem to over-look is that cops ARE PEOPLE….in many ways just like them. Capable of the same sins and faults which affect us all as human beings.
So....Tell me all you quick to criticize, shit-for-brains imbeciles....posting here with your version of sad encounters with “the man” and other pathetic examples of poor police reviews.....who you gonna call when the shit hits your fan? And what would your world be like without people like me who make/made the effort every day to keep the wolves from your door?
Sorry for your bad hair day mutha-fuckers, but maybe if you did some serious re-evaluation about your own shitty life’s choices....you might have a different take on your venal and worthless existence.
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kenneth 06/10/2010 2:01:00 PM
I truly applaud this cop for doing what he did. Whistleblowers are always despised by many despite the good they are doing. I hope the necessary actions are taken to remove these scumbags from their positions. Many of these NYPD cops are thugs and scumbags !!! I hope they get what they deserve. We need to replace these dirtbags with officers who respect themselves, their jobs, and the communities they serve. Remove these Suckers!
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R Moore 06/01/2010 7:00:00 PM
I read two installments. Waiting for the rest. What happened?
81st Precinct story.
Thanks
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Carol 05/26/2010 12:36:00 AM
Lisa 05/20/2010 12:14:44 AM,
Tell me how UNDER reporting crime and not reporting it ALL is seving the citizens of NYC? How is that keeping people safe?
And yes, Mike Jones you CAN fake safer street by NOT taking a statment or filing complaints, by down grading a mugging as "lost property".
By categorizing a stolen vechile as "unathorized use".
These cops are not making NYC safer. They are not protecting you, your family, your child or property.
Put away the cheereaders' uniforms and get real.
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Eric 05/25/2010 9:28:00 PM
This same kind of thing happens in wealthier communities also. "America's Safest City" (Irvine, CA - at least a few years back) got that way by pulling this same kind of underreporting. An unintended consequence of accountability measures. Great job VV for blowing the whistle. I'm as pro-cop as they come, but this stinks. Stop trying to defend corruption kids. This might not be the worst police corruption case in the world, but it does highlight problems that need to be taken seriously. Think of how you'd like it if a crime against YOU was brushed aside so the precinct could report better numbers.
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Kate 05/25/2010 9:11:00 PM
Fascinating.
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Michael F. Hemingway 05/25/2010 1:05:00 AM
This is the year 2010. Spike Lee doesn't want me in Bedford Stuyvesant. So he says, "Go to Harlem!!!" White tough talking New Yorkers-Tony-Soprano-style who know I once grew up and lived in Bushwick say, "Hey, you oughta spend some New York time in Riker's Island because you're black!!!" The New York Post has already disgraced itself with a defamatory cartoon portraying The President being shot by police bullets as if a dead monkey. The New York Knickerbockers under a sleaze ghost of Red Auerbach attempt to look like the old Boston Celtics and still can't earn a playoff birth and won't get Lebron James either because even though the front office management wants to pay him, the fans and other New Yorkers just don't deserve to see this man transform into the entire team, win or lose. Besides, everyone knows that when The Yankees win, The Knicks and Nets have to lose. Something about white and black. Black and white. It is still the year 2010. New York has had its first black governor for about 2 years, David Patterson, as people try to forget menacing black helicopters seen in Albany late at night while the former New York State Attorney General gets "dumped" and unravelled. Governor Patterson repeals Rockefeller Drug Laws so now it becomes more difficult to capriciously arrest blacks and Hispanics for no reason. It is still the year 2010 and a Connecticut terror cell wannabe comes to New York for the weekend like they sometimes do from New Jersey and decides to park a car bomb outside Times Square's theatre district. But where is New York's Finest and NYPD? Probably scrambling for cover and excuses to protect themselves from harm and danger because, after all, isn't the New York City transit system still a prime target for those "friggin" Middle East terrorists? And if they're not there, they're probably somewhere lost in time within a 1 New York Plaza - Joseph Wambaugh crime novel or being shot at and fired upon by black nationalists, street gangs, and other unmerciful police blotter felons from the 50's and 60's heyday who were probably murdered in Attica anyway, if not killed braggodocio-style like Yusef, Diallo, Louima, or Bell. It is still the year 2010. The Russian Mafia has all but replaced the Italian Mafia especially within West Brooklyn like Coney Island, but what does NYPD do about it? NOTHING. So here's what we do with NYPD. Put them on the Staten Island Ferry and wait for it to crash again with fatalities. Put them in harm's way inside the next 911 so they won't have time to harass and truncate blacks in Brooklyn because of their arbitrary police arrest quotas. You wanna slice?
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Richard Ovalle 05/24/2010 5:20:00 AM
Ahh, THIS is the Voice I remember and love from the 80's and 90's. The INSIDE deal. Truth be told I'm not really surprised. In my neighborhood cops won't work with community leaders instead belittling them as well as what was mentioned, intimidating victims. One officer told my next door neighbor that No maam we canot do anything about the guy trying to break down your door. When he breaks in and if you're injured we can send someone. She cried and now barely leaves her house. Me, I keep a gun.
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Lisa 05/22/2010 1:22:00 AM
Copinbrooklyn: Do yourself and the citizens of our city a favor and go back to Best Buy or Circuit City. Obviously the "pressure" of having to actually act like a cop (imagine that!) is too much for you. It's not like you're being told to plant drugs on people. You're being told to look out for law breakers. I don't see the problem dude. Maybe you took the exam because you just wanted to wear the uniform and look pretty? Well in that case, maybe you can just transfer to Staten Island. I wrote this acting as if you're really a cop but I'm pretty sure you're really some Williamsburg hipster living off his parent's money posting from his laptop in Starbucks.
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Copinbrooklyn 05/22/2010 12:46:00 AM
this is everyday occurrence in the dept. I worked for best buy and circuit city for years, and there was less pressure put on me there to sell computers and warranties then there is for me to arrest someone and 250 em. what are u gonna do? ill be sgt soon and ill probably never do patrol again cuz i don't see myself treating my cops in such away, and i know a thing or 2 about being sgt was in the army before hand as staff sgt.
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itsasecret 05/21/2010 6:57:00 PM
am I missing something? I don't see what the shocking information is here. Are we all surprised? Fact is, NYPD protects the city and puts their lives on the line on a daily basis for a huge metropolis under an endless amount of red tape, political rules, regulations and departmental guidelines (all seperate). Every force has corruption. So does our government. What are you going to do about it? Bottom line, there are still a lot of men and women putting themselves on the line for us and deserve our respect, not constant scrutiny and criticism.
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Lisa 05/20/2010 12:14:00 PM
LMAO I'd LOVE to see you hipsters, yuppies, and all other weirdos out there have your asses thrown into a time machine and sent back to the 1980's when NYPD had NO CONTROL over the criminals and the citizens had to just deal with it themselves. Clueless. Most of you morons came here after Giuliani cleaned it up for you. Do you think you would be bar hopping on AVE A at 2AM? Listen honeys, I've seen you skinny bearded weirdos and blonde farm girls, you wouldn't have even made it at 2PM in the afternoon in some of these neighborhoods. I can't WAIT for the crime to go up again and watch your asses WISHING there was an aggressive loud talking cop around you!
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Mike Zelinski 05/19/2010 5:28:00 AM
Check out http://www.nypdbluehoax.blogspot.com for more insight on what goes on inside the NYPD back offices. This is a great blog written by a former NYPD police officer and it tells it the way it really is. Really worth the read.
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Diallo Madison 05/14/2010 9:02:00 PM
This story reveals the injustices that have been overlooked for a long time. We have to ask ourselves, how many wrongful convictions has derived from this kind of mindset of officers? This type of callous disregard for the U.S. Constitutional Rights of citizens breeds further unjust actions and the belief that they (officers conducting themselves unlawfully) can do whatever and whenever to whomever they want--therefore, their prejudices, uninformed ideology of race and violence can cause major issues in communities.
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Norman Curtis 05/13/2010 7:50:00 AM
The NYPD Tapes article was an education for me. It helped me understand what recently happened to me. My car was ticketed and towed early one morning. The violation was: "Parked 5 feet from hydrant." I had parked my car more than 15 feet away. After I retrieved my car told my building's Super about it. He replied that recently the police were about to ticket his car when he was standing nearby. He asked them what the problem was. The officer said the car was too close to the hydrant. The Super paced the distance with his feet to prove that the car was more than 17 feet away! The officer apologized and went on his way. A pattern has emerged of others having their cars fraudulently ticketed and towed for being too close to a hydrant See NY Parking Tickets.com & City-data.com Since the car was towed you cannot prove your case. But there is strength in numbers and the Voice article provided strong backup evidence of fraudulent ticketing by the police and the reasons for it.
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n 05/13/2010 2:51:00 AM
As a Police Officer (not in the 81st though) I'd love to just work with the community, help people who need it. Deter crime (the right way) perhaps give tickets here and there when needed.. But I'd love to just be more personal and open with the community but I'll be totally honest. The department doesn't allow this. There's numerous times I've been told I'm the "nicest", "coolest", "illest" Cop someones ever dealt with but in this department that gets you NO WHERE.
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gissel 05/12/2010 11:08:00 PM
this cop shit i some bullshit, they dont take anybody serious ugh, cops are so unfair they just care for money, we need cops that care about our safety all this is atroutios and they are very lazy they just give tickets to gain their money.
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Carl 05/12/2010 7:42:00 PM
PERHAPS ONE DAY WE WILL SEE AN UPRISING WHERE THE CITIZENS WILL BEGIN TO RANDOMLY KILL POLICE OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
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Rowl 05/12/2010 7:04:00 AM
Is anyone really suprrsed by any of this?
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falltime 05/12/2010 7:04:00 AM
Wow so a low level employee in a huge bureaucratic organization runs around with a tape recorder for MONTHS and secretly tapes everyone...and what does he discover, that people CYA, take shortcuts and dont do everything the way you are supposed to do - WOW what a scoop!
This isnt a conspiracy - its called LIFE.
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grayman 05/11/2010 8:37:00 PM
If you have an anecdote about police downgrading a criminal complaint or refusing to take a crime report, please email the Voice at grayman@villagevoice.com.
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les 05/11/2010 8:15:00 PM
Whats next stopping brothers for wearing Bob Marley Shirts? Its true folks this happens all the time...whiteboyz in Bedstuy NEVER GET Stopped
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dave 05/11/2010 4:30:00 PM
First of all,thank you to the village voice again,for having the guts to deal with this situation,you always come through.this story the absolute truth,reflecting not only what going on with the munbers at the 81st,but much more importantly is the extreme uneasiness in my community.Moving here as a young blk man,a homebuyer 5 yrs ago,i was shocked at the number of times i was stopped,never in all my 40+ yrs living in new york,have i ever been so frequently stopped, then in the bedford stuyvesant community.i have been stopped... 1.walking down fulton st.,at a decent hour mind you,and upon the 4 patrolling officers hearing something in my pocket, ask me to empty all my pockets and produce i.d.,...they were a pack of tic tacs mind you...2. walking home on macon/nostrand...6pm,noticed a cop car pass me,without turning around,could hear them backing up the car full speed,and without getting out of their car,and mind you it was freezing out,ask me to open my coat,then my shirt,then my undeshirt to see if if had anything,i was standind there with my chest and stomach fully exposed,to have them just pull off and say nothing,thats what you get i guess for going to work,and picking up dinner to take home,...3. then the time i was picking up something from the liquor store on bedford,on the weekend,about 6pm,i was exiting the store,was walking home,about 3 stores down ,noticed 2 officers walking patrol toward me and ask me what was in the bag,they opened it to see, i guess if it was an open bottle,mind you i know they seen me just come out of the store,i guess thats what you get for going to a liquor store on the weekend to get some wine for friends or whatever,and 4 ,youre gonna like this, ....having the cops come to your house at 3 in the morning ,saying some one there called the cops on the 2nd flr,and mind you in know my tenants,all was cool,and demanding to go up to her apt just to check things out,there was no call mind you,just random polce work i guess.i hope things change,we all have enough to deal with in life,brothers dont need this constant challenge in their lives,moving here and noticing this is just sickening,it makes you feel like a hostage in your own community.sometimes i wont even go out or stay out too late,not fearing anyone out,but having the cops just so unexpectedly harass you makes u kinda nervous,i dont feel that way in willmsbrg,park slope,dwntwn bklyn c. hill or frt green...something is definitely going on here,and i know there are others out there who feel the same.i hope these things chang,the 81 st hasn t heard the last on this one.
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Mike 05/11/2010 12:12:00 PM
For all the people who have written about excessive policing, look at the post crime stats for the 81st, compared to a precinct of similar area, population density (excluded ethnic factor) and tell me what you see. I'm a black male you has lived in the city for over 30 years. I have been stopped by the police...four times, and guess what, I was wrong (minor infractions mind you. the worst penalty, a speeding ticket, and yes I was speeding). If stats are being lowered ot show lower crime, then the city has a major crime issue. What does Officer Schoolcraft suggest be done to deal with rising crime stats?
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AntiTime 05/11/2010 10:14:00 AM
Shame on this cop for recording the locker room banter of his colleagues. Good for him for recording the bosses. People who say this quota stuff is about race, class, or holding neighborhoods down, can't see the forest for the trees. Quotas are about revenue plain and simple. A, B, and to a certain extent, C summonses are about generating money for the city. That's it. Have you looked at the fine schedule for moving offenses in NYC lately? As for 250's that's just a bullshit way for the bosses to show compstat that they are addressing crime conditions in the command. As for fudging numbers, The Job has an insane fixation on statistics. It's like they suddenly grasped the concepts of 'mean median and mode' that we all learned in junior high and they're using them weekly to grandstand about how safe NYC is just to chase their next promotion. What they failed to realize is that numbers can only go down so far before they eventually have to spike. Should be an interesting summer. Stay safe out there.
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Tony O 05/11/2010 6:59:00 AM
Eileen: we don't pay for stories at the Village Voice. Mr. Schoolcraft was not given a dime to turn the tapes over to us. Tony Ortega, Editor
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Eileen 05/11/2010 2:48:00 AM
And how much did Schoolcraft get paid for turning over his "frustrations" to VV?
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Sir Robert Peel 05/11/2010 1:54:00 AM
As I read this article, I thought to myself "I'm glad I'm not alone.' I've been a police officer in the south for almost a decade (just over, actually) and have seen this type of activity often. Supervisors massaging reports to reflect similar, but different (malicious damage versus burglary), crimes so they don't get singled out in meetings; demands to meet 'production goals' (the new way to say quota); and being told to avoid disproportionate minority contacts, yet being assigned to predominantly minority neighborhoods. I knew as I read this article that many are going to call him a rat. How dare he record us, THE POLICE, as we talk. How dare he betray us, the Thin Blue Line. But is it really a betrayal? Is he turning his back on us or have WE turned our back on the public? The public that we not only serve but are very mush a part of? Maybe he is merely standing up for what is right.
Just as I was encouraged by Officer Schoolcraft's actions, I was also annoyed by several commentors, who have the right to their opinion, but seem to me to be misdirected and attempting to serve their own agenda. Several referred to race or economic status as being the point here. Although I am not a resident of NYC, I've found over the years that, although each department is different, every department is the same. This isn't a race issue. This isn't a 'keep the poor down' issue. This is an issue of poor leadership and doing the right thing when nobody is looking. This is an issue of what happens when the status quo is followed without question. But, as usual, some people will find thier own agenda in anything.
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1013 05/11/2010 12:51:00 AM
Kelly needs to fire some CO'S at the 81st pct
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Hector 05/10/2010 10:17:00 PM
"Bedford-Stuyvesant, a densely populated, multiracial patchwork of low-income areas, public housing projects, and blocks going through gentrification."
It is bizaare to refer to Bed-Stuy as multi-ethnic, at least through the eyes of a white-led police force. Yes, there are Caribbean and African immigrants there, but they, like the longer-term residents, are members of the African diaspora. In other words, they're essentially black. Is the racism of the summons quota being deliberately underplayed in this article?
The greatest social injustice here is summed up in the quote from the supervisor, "This isn't mid-town manhattan, where everyone's happy and smiling..", I've walked the streets of Bed-Stuy and seen plenty of people smiling, and I know that meth labs run by bank executives have been discovered in the Upper East Side in recent years (look it up). The difference is the color and economic situation of the populace.
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Brutus 05/10/2010 6:08:00 PM
Wisest thing my father ever taught me (only thing) - cops are the most dangerous people you normally have to deal with - cross the street if you see one coming and generally stay the hell away from them.
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JC 05/10/2010 1:36:00 PM
I found this fascinating. A little while back, we were in NYC. Our car was burgled and a bunch of stuff stolen from it. We found an officer to report it to, and they said we had to go to the precinct to file a report. And when we got to the precinct, they really didn't seem all that interested in taking our report. We thought it strange at the time, and now we're wondering what was *really* going on behind the scenes ....
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D Smith 05/10/2010 6:18:00 AM
I am retired 22 Yrs from patrol. Asked if I was attempting to make my quota I answered with I do not have a quota I can write as much as I want
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donald 05/10/2010 6:11:00 AM
what a low life scumbag this guy is---a coward, a turn coat and a rat--and nobody likes a rat.. the secret taping of a piece of s__ts day--- do you think he may have sought out those who may have been more vocal-those are private thoughts and were probably put on for the traitors own entertainment- eveerthing we say is to elicit a response---he probably had elicited these reponses in his previous encounters but failed to record those meetings....garbage-absolute garbage..the best part of him ran down his.........
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manny 05/10/2010 4:24:00 AM
keep up the good work .You are on the people side.
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J. L. Chapman 05/10/2010 3:38:00 AM
As a citizen, I want my police force to serve the community, not the numbers. As a worker, I hate when organizations attack the whistle-blowers. If something is wrong, you need to listen the the complaint so you can improve the organization.
Bed-Stuy has a long and proud history. They deserve better than this. I can only hope the citizens of Bed-Stuy get a cleaned up force, a mayor's office that backs true community policing, and Officer Schoolcraft back protecting them.
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ritecoy 05/10/2010 1:50:00 AM
That precinct has always been a hub of trouble for the residents it serves. Nothings going to change. When people feel invincible by threatening people and getting away with it what would stop them. I do feel sorry for the cop that taped all the mess. Unfortunately there are some real officers that take the job seriously. Not many....
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Syphon Filter 05/10/2010 1:47:00 AM
Very shocking details about the shenanigans going on in Precint 81. Bedford Stuyvesant is a very tough place to be in, but at the same time this shows how politics plays into the hands of the very fabric of the Bedford Stuyvesant community. What we clearly see is a mandate from the Mayor (indirectly, probably telling the police commissioner Kelly to control the Officers and Precints) and Kelly isn't efficient in his job and takes the easy way out, by playing with statistics and hurting victims of crimes by not reporting them. I am sure if this neighborhood was upscale or lesser amount of minorities, they would report everything, and try to do whatever they can do to stop real crime. I have a friend who works in the East New York section of Brooklyn as a patrol officer, and he says the same thing about what was exposed here. he actually says that superior officers tell them to not report major crimes, and to treat the neighborhood like a jungle. It's a real shame that those who are suppose to serve and protect you, are really screwing you in your own neighborhood. Now, we realize why nobody trusts the New York City Cops.
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Martine 05/10/2010 1:38:00 AM
This article further demonstrates the increasing criminalization of the poor, people of color, the working class, and their subsequent removal from increasingly demanded urban areas. I think the 81st is a good example of the kind of racism excersised by urban cops, but class war continues on all races in more rural areas. The fact that more than two thirds of ALL youth in urban Los Angeles has been dragged into a station house at least once in their lives also tells us that the war is more and more fought on the younger generations, shrinking their possibilities for freedom of diversion in any way. A great book to read on Police, politics and the institutional terrorism on American citizens can be found in City of Quartz by Mike Davis. What Americans have to fear is not terrorism from abroad, but terrorism coming from an array of institutions in our country: http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/video-of-swat-raid-on-missouri
Privately owned prisons, the war on drugs, money grubbing police fiefdoms, corporate war on democratic processes, and the growing belief that nothing is sacred and everyone is to be feared have all eroded any sense of community and promoted the creation of such laws like not loitering, no disrupting the peace, no jay-walking, no drinking in public, open containers, convening in shrinking public places after dark, no etc. These laws were created for the controlling of the undesirable irish immigrants and Blacks of early New York and little has changed today. it's clear that there would be some psychological and physical consequences. The lashing out of a mis-trusted and abused portion of the population is a boon to the police- it legitimizes their jobs. Is it any wonder some do start selling drugs, shooting cops or one another, or resorting to violence after their voices have been systematically silenced through cuts in spending to schools, parks, a shortage of jobs- relocation of industry overseas or degrading stop-and-frisks. The burgeoning revolution was squashed in Chicago, in Los Angeles, in New York etc so swiftly that memory is fading, and where is the anger? There are many problems but don't let economic strangulation and fear keep you from joining together to resist and protest this impending 1984.
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Eddie 05/09/2010 11:23:00 PM
It would appear that quite a few of the people who read the article didn't actually read it. There are eight (8), yes eight pages to this article. People are talking about pain on the walls and graffiti. This is beyond that. And if you can't even realize that than I feel sorry for you, even more so if you get caught up in the statistics.
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Jan 05/09/2010 9:56:00 PM
It's certainly juvenile behavior for the officers to paint graffiti on precinct walls, however, blowing off steam over the many frustrations surely they encounter in a day, the cost of a quart of paint and an hour to paint the graffiti before inspections, seems a small cost.
And the constant and daily reminders frisk the public is rather invasive to the people of Bed-Stuys, nothing I've read so far is outside the current laws of the community and State i.e., stopping those who "run red lights, don't wear seatbelks, talk on cell phones while driving, double parking etc."
There's nothing here that I can see that warrants concern from the public nor the echelons that govern the police departments of Bed-Stuys.
I was actually relieved as I thought the transcrips would read of massive inside corruption etc.
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Ronald Jackson 05/09/2010 6:48:00 PM
The quota system and the "stop and frisk" policy of the New York City Police Department is pure racism
In a six year period, 2.7 MILLION people were "stopped and frisked" by police officers. Of those who were stopped, 82% were Blacks and Latinos. The excuse that police focus on the people who are committing the crime is proven to be both racist and ridiculous by the fact that 88% of the people stopped (again, the vast majority of whom were Blacks and Latinos) were found to be INNOCENT.
Moreover, while police officers focus their racist siege on Blacks and Latinos and on Black and Latino neighborhoods, statistics suggest that more focus should be placed on stopping Whites. For example, research shows that among those who are getting "stopped and frisked" by police officers, 1.5% of Latinos, 1.6% of Blacks and 2.2% of Whites had illegal contraband! Furthermore, among those "stopped and frisked" by police officers, 1.1% of the Blacks, 1.4% of Latinos, & 1.7% of Whites had weapons on them!
So, we can come to several conclusions based on this articles and the other research I've presented: 1) Police are lying when they say there are no quotas when it comes to issuing summonses, making arrests, "stopping and frisking," etc. 2) White and Black communities are policed differently: Black and Latino communities are placed under siege and White communities are not, 3) The Black and Latinos communities are placed under a North Korean-like police state which results in millions of innocent Blacks and Latinos getting "stopped and frisked" by police officers, 4) The "stop and frisked" policy is outright racial profiling in that the vast majority of those stopped are Black and Latinos, 5) The idea that "guilty" or "criminal people" are being stopped is nonsense since so few people end up with any charges after they are "stopped and frisked", 6) It is pure myth making to argue that the "crime ridden communities" or "criminal people" get the state-of-siege treatment since research demonstrates that Whites are more likely to be carrying illegal contraband or guns than either Blacks or Latinos
Go to a White community and search every other teenager and what do you think you will find in their pockets?? But that isn't done, instead police come to Black communities to boost their arrest and ticketing numbers solely for the purpose of furthering their careers. The result is more Blacks and Latinos than Whites getting arrested, getting drivers licenses suspended, getting tickets for loitering, jay walking, and drinking, and getting prison terms placed on their records for a lifetime.
THE TACTICS AND STRATEGIES FOR POLICING IN NEW YORK CITY ARE RACIST.
The demographics for "stop and frisk" can be found here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/opinion/02herbert.html
http://www.opednews.com/articles/New-York-City-Champaign-I-by-Belden-Fields-100216-862.html
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RC 05/09/2010 4:24:00 PM
Found this article linked through Google News. Believe me folks, many of us in this business (the ones in it for the right reasons) are feeling the same pain you are.
I've been an LEO in the Los Angeles area for over 18 yrs. Before Chief Bratton came out here, officers at LA County Dept's always tried to determine what was the highest charge they could get out of an incident. Watch Commanders always tried to look at the maximum you could get a suspect in custody for, as long as it was legitimate and the probable cause / evidence was there to support it.
If it was a GTA (Grand Theft Auto; a felony), then that was what it was charged as. Lately, for the last half-dozen years or so, the pressure is to go the other way. So now the same incident is just as likely to end up being charged as a Taking Vehicle w/out Owner's consent (Joyriding; a misdemeanor).
A running joke among some of my co-workers was that an attempt murder would end up being an accidental discharge of a firearm report together with a seperate injury report. Any "out" given that would lend itself to justifying a lower charge was normal procedure. Not quite as much with actual arrests (in custody), but certainly for typical report calls.
Try this one on for size. Obsd a guy spray painting most of an intersection with gang graffiti early one morning and grabbed him trying to walk away (with spray can still in his pocket). Gang unit said he definitly was a gangster (from his tats), but he had no ID and the name he gave wasn't coming up as anyone in the system. Did all the paperwork to book for felony vandalism, then got into a running argument with my W/Cdr as to why it was a felony (over $400 in damages, in CA). Ended up being ordered to make it $399 in damage, and cite the guy out on a summons (no booking), even though he had no ID and I couldn't positively verify his ID. Insane. The guy signed the summons and walked out of the front door of the station laughing. The division gang unit supervisor was furious, but what was done was done. I then spent more time transferring my booking arrest report to another form for the summons and booking the can on a seperate report to book it on at property room than it would have been to simply do it all at once in a regular booking procedure (where it's all combined on one report). Again, insane.
Now that Bratton and the NY way of doing the stats thing are gone, we're slowly getting back to doing business the way it should have been all along. Don't always believe the numbers. As anyone who has been to college and taken statistics can tell you, any bunch of numbers can be manipulated to support any argument with a little manipulation or strategically placed omission(s). In some cases, it does show where problems are and where attention is needed. But only if they're properly reported. OTherwise they're meaningless.
The problem starts at the top. City Hall and the department's management need to re-focus their priorities and not worry about sound bite statistics (oh, look, crime is down) that'll help get them re-elected. An improved attitude and focus on real quality of life issues should hopefully then trickle down to the street level and the average citizen. Most cops I know would love to earn their pay for the job they signed up to do, not get involved in the management's and city politics every time they go out to handle a call.
Best of luck to those of you working and living in the 81st (including the officers, who have really been caught in the middle). Sounds like things are going to get better (hopefully), thanks to one stand-up guy blowing the whistle on all of this.
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Mary 05/09/2010 8:37:00 AM
What makes anyone think that NYPD is the only police department that pushes stats and boundaries between right and wrong? It happens in every department. Problem is, these guys are supposed to know the difference between right and wrong and to enforce it. Hahaha! Jokes on us!
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Naomi Johnson 05/09/2010 7:50:00 AM
It's the national obsession of American institutions and corporations: fucking metrics. Metrics can be useful but they now take an obscene precedence over leadership and genuine productivity which can sometimes be difficult to measure. Top cops seem to have forgotten that the job isn't just about the paperwork and the powerpoint presentations. But then, all of corporate America has the same problem.
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ALS 05/09/2010 6:20:00 AM
Disgusting. Humans are animals with too big of a brain.
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kate 05/09/2010 4:38:00 AM
Who cares? Sounds like they were trying to do their jobs. What a criminal offense, graffiti> I mean come on, nothing better to do? the cop who recorded this was a frustrated book author or something looking to make a buck, which Im sure he will now. They should knock off the bureacracy, but this wont help iy.
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cher 05/09/2010 1:22:00 AM
Victims are ignored and arrests are supreme.It's nothing to add another violation to an already shady record, better yet why not start a new one. The people in the 81st are farm animals. Everybody walking around already has a "warrant", who's gonna check. Unprotected, you can make whatever statistics needed to be churned out. Some clean cut kid in there could only be a loud mouth for his claims of harrasment. We have data now to prove everything that's been dismissed as conspiracy theories, if you have enough vision to imagine the effects of this illegal practice. Schoolcraft thank you man. We know that the mayor is at bottom of this. He stands there a money savant cluelessy grinning as proud as the school idiot who has just tied perfect shoes laces, except he doesnt know the shoes belong on his feet. You can imagine the mayor boasting of his city except he pulverizes its neccessary inhabitants to show his fiscal briliance. We met guys like him before, in school rooms, girl-repulsed, self assured, clammy palmed, idiots burning calculators, and some sorry, influential, caffeined/fast food/prescription pill brained assocociate made him a star. Maybe an uncle, a sympathizer, a church affiliate. But to fudge stats to demonstrated his quality-of-life brilliance? Out of your league mayor. I hope this turns into a scandal that would bring you down in disgrace. But considering how much the people have been pulverized by big business money,(example: Bloomberg News)and the great percentage who does not give a damn because it does not affect them, you are going to get away with even that. Where's the will?
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chui 05/09/2010 12:41:00 AM
NY is not alone in this police criminal negligence, fixing reports at he behest of the hierarchy all the way up to the Mayors office and down the system. At least urban cops are a little more educated then the rural or some States in the South, where high school education, a gun and a badge is all that matters. Beside that the system is offshoot of the military down the line. The preferred are the military type or rather ex military with combat experience in Iraq, Afghanistan and else where. Where they learned excessive use of force to the level of beating to death, harassment on account of race, skin colour, ethnicity and even religion, as in case of the Muslim faith. In their ignorant minds and perception one has to just look it be what these with a gun and a badge perceive it to be.
That is why we in this country now have these birthers, the likes of these tea baggers, the Palin, Buckmann, the Limbaugh, Hannity, Glen Becks and the rest of the malignant narcissist, chronic scape goaters, uncorrectable grab baggers most conservative republican types with their perversity of inequality, rights only of their kind and all the rest.
As to the national level and that include cities like NY the propaganda of terror hype, fomentation of hate, fear, wrapping up in the flag, farting patriotism, republican patriotic feeding frenzy to control the hearts and minds of a misled and gullible nation for political expediency and ends to the means is the name of the game.
Added to that is the new equation of the fundamentally flawed economic system that has led us in the economic terror besiege, ideological divide, polarization and the fast track of self destruction from within.
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OlderThanDirt 05/08/2010 11:59:00 PM
What is it that this article doesn't address? Police pay. That's the real bottom line. The mayor is not particularly concerned about his city's image-- are you kidding? NYC? It's image is what it is. This isn't Sparks, Nevada concerned about what people in other places might think. This is NYC, where one of the major industries in town is *telling* people what to think.
The problem is purely one of budget. If major crime is up, the mayor is under pressure to increase police "presence." "Do more with less" only cuts it up to a point. As crimes spiral upward, after a while the only option is: hire more uniforms. But uniforms cost money, a lot of money, too much money. If police "presence" was less costly there wouldn't be this enormous budgetary pressure to cut back on personnel. The cops love their supersized salaries. They hate the pressure those salaries generate to "do more with less," BUT THEY LOVE THEIR SALARIES. The police perspective on all this is irrelevant, the salary issue simply gets in the way. Police officers could--and would--work for 50% - 70% of their present compensation. The city has been a lazy employer, paying too much, and finding itself in a powerful budgetary bind. Lower police salaries, then the city could hire (many) more cops. The pressure would be so much less and the city would be safer and more orderly. NYC needs a mayor with the political courage to go up against the union, to restore a balance between police wages and city resources that has been lost due to political pandering.
Oh yeah, right. That's gonna happen real soon. Sorry, what was I thinking?
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Fran 05/08/2010 10:51:00 PM
No surprises here.
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Kristin 05/08/2010 10:41:00 PM
Surprise, surprise. In the last two years, my husband was involved in two traffic incidents in Manhattan. In the first, he was hit by a cab while on his bicycle. The police ON THE SCENE claimed they did not see what happened and that the camera AIMED AT THE INTERSECTION had mysteriously stopped working. They never filed the report, and it took weeks of phone calls, and eventually visiting the station, to have this done and track it down. The second was a hit and run incident in which a large vehicle backed up into his, totaling it. There were a number of witnesses at the scene who recorded the license plate of the offender and volunteered to give statements to the police. Unfortunately, the police never responded to the call, and hours later, the witnesses left. My husband flagged down a passing cop car, and the police inside tried to tell him they could not file a report without witnesses there, in person, to confirm what happened. Not true, but my husband called the witnesses and one said he could be there in ten minutes. The police refused to wait. He forced them to give him a complaint number and took their badge numbers. Not surprisingly, the report was never filed and he had to go to the station and threaten to file a grievance against them before they managed to file a report about what happened and contact the witnesses. Who exactly do the police work for? We pay almost 40% of our income in taxes, which pay for their salaries. And they can't be bothered to take simple reports when a crime occurs? I can't imagine the way my husband might have been treated if he wasn't wearing his business clothes, and he wasn't a rich white guy on the UWS. Disgusting.
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you suck 05/08/2010 9:14:00 PM
8 goddamn pages of a 2 inch column? what kind of retard laid this page out?
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Mac 05/08/2010 8:05:00 PM
I'm not surprised at this at all...NYPD is one of the most disrespectful police department's in the nation. Just hearing them talk to eachother or civilians, shows you how uneducated and untrained they are!!
Most of them are not happy with their jobs...so they just walk around all day and pretend they are working!
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bill hensen 05/08/2010 7:51:00 PM
Same thing, different story in my profession, medicine (I am a MD), and I saw and witnessed the same thing in education while earning that MD. You dont dare speak up for what is right, or the powers that be will eliminate your career, just like the criminal cops in this story. I finally gave up worrying about what is right and started thinking about what is best for my family, amazing the difference it made. Now, on a daily basis, when I see abuse by the hospital administration, insurance, educators (allegedly there to educate residents, which is ALMOST NEVER the real reason) or other doctors. I just repeat to myself, "Not my problem, I am here to help my family". Sad isnt it?
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beentheredonethat 05/08/2010 7:38:00 PM
Hate to say it but its not limited to NYC, I had less trust of the people inside the building than on the outside, the higher up they go, the worse they are.
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dad 05/08/2010 7:02:00 PM
Br'lyn?? You like living in Br'lyn??? :)
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Larry 05/08/2010 7:01:00 PM
8 pages? Seriously? WTF! S U M M A R I Z E !
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condom 05/08/2010 6:46:00 PM
Fire them all...from the top dog all the way down to the cop on the beat. Open up hand gun training courses to teach the little old lady to not shoot herself in the foot.
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Olden Atwoody 05/08/2010 5:15:00 PM
"He recorded small talk and stationhouse banter."
Umm, that would be illegal and inadmissable in court, yes?
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Mark Simeone 05/08/2010 4:32:00 PM
"The NYPD Tapes" really do offer a glimpse into the internal workings of Comstat and the 81st. Victims of crime further become victims of police who should be helping them, not working against them, regardless of their social economic status or physical stoutness. An incredible breach of public trust, a deplorable abuse of power, an inexcusible set of circumstances and events. Mr. Schoolcraft is a hero and a responsible law enforcement officer, unlike his counterparts who are most likely, still on the public payroll providing substandard service.
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Edwyn Kelting 05/08/2010 4:17:00 PM
And cops wonder why the citizens don't trust them. This sort of activity has been oviously going on in all our cities for as long as I can remember, and it's obviuos that it has been going on. And no one has been able to confront it. Not even this cop. And I bet this cop has been fired, demoted or otherwise harrassed for to doing this too. And you see the citizens taking justice into their own hands, because they know that justice isn't being served by theose that are assigned to handle justice in society............ And you wonder why there is a general sense in the society that things are going down hill.....
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Jim 05/08/2010 4:00:00 PM
Ironically,the 81 is where Frank Serpico started his career.
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godjlove 05/08/2010 3:38:00 PM
The is good, we have always known that NY cops are crooked, the entire law enforcement system is crooked all the way up to the Justice Department. Come on, this American system of Justice was founded by crooks who escaped from England back in the day. You ask me, ALL cops in every police department nationwide are crooked as well. Check em! Crooked cops is now an everyday phrase in peoples' mind! We minorities have always known that cops were crooked. Come on, the system of law enforcement in the U.S. is a game being play on the American people. Just like Bush and his cronies were able to instill real fear in Americans after nine eleven, and subdue their rights. Just take a moment or two and read all of those laws they introduced or changed during his reign. In the words of a Hip Hop icon KRS-ONE, "overseer and officer are one in the same. one
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Stbdtac 05/08/2010 1:46:00 PM
As a former NYC transit cop in the sixties I can tell you that crime statistics were manipulated regularly, going into overdrive shortly before a mayoral election.