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Debrahlee Lorenzana says her no-account bosses fired her over her looks

A A A Comments (605) By Elizabeth Dwoskin Tuesday, Jun 1 2010

Carrie Schechter

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Lorenzana left the workplace to get married, but that relationship went sour after a brief time, and in September 2008, she was ready to go back to work. It was the height of the Wall Street crisis, but she lucked out. She got an interview with Citibank for a job at its recently opened branch in the Chrysler Building.

At the interview, she recalls, she wore a black Armani wrap dress and simple Christian Louboutin pumps. (The dress was form-fitting and tight in the bust: She says one size up would have been too big for her.) She remembers that the branch manager, Craig Fisher, was polite, asking her about strategies for acquiring new business and whether she had other job offers. Since she already had an offer from Washington Mutual, Fisher proposed a salary of $70,000 with three weeks' vacation, she says. Her job title was business banker, providing services to small businesses. There were three business bankers at the Chrysler Building branch; Lorenzana was the only woman.

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When she started the job, she says, a colleague told her that the branch was "pretty much known for hiring pretty girls," and that she knew Lorenzana was going to be hired from the moment she came in for her interview. "So here I am," Lorenzana recalls, "thinking I got hired because of my capabilities, and now you're telling me it's because of my physical appearance? Oh, great."

However, she liked the job, the pay, and the prospects for advancement. For the first two months, she says, she was hardly in the office—she was either out drumming up business or attending training sessions. But once she started spending more time in the office, things began to go downhill.

Interviews and her lawsuit, which was filed in November 2009, tell her story: Fisher and another manager, Peter Claibourne, started making offhanded comments about her appearance, she says. She was told not to wear fitted business suits. She should wear makeup because she looked sickly without it. (She had purposefully stopped wearing makeup in hopes of attracting less attention.) Once, she recalls, she came in to work without having blow-dried her hair straight—it is naturally curly—and Fisher told a female colleague to pass on a message that she shouldn't come into work without straightening it.

Other problems also popped up. In order to provide services to a client, a banker needs to become certified to do things like open a checking account or take a loan application. Lorenzana says Fisher didn't send her to enough of the required training sessions, which meant she wasn't authorized to do something as simple as order a debit card for a client and was forced to rely on her colleagues for favors. "When I complained," Lorenzana says, "Craig would say, 'Just go ahead and bring in new business.' So I went out every day and looked for business." But then, she says, when clients would come into the branch asking for her—or would fax papers to the branch with her name on them—Fisher would give those hard-won accounts to male colleagues.

In late 2008, she recalls, the two managers called her into Fisher's office. She remembers that she was wearing a red camisole, beige pants, and a navy suit jacket. This is how she tells it: "They said, 'Deb, we need to talk to you about your work attire. . . . Your pants are too tight.' I said, 'I'm sorry, my pants are not too tight! If you want to talk about inappropriate clothes, go downstairs and look at some of the tellers!' "

Citibank does have a dress-code policy, which says clothing must not be provocative, but does not go into specifics, and managers have wide discretion. But Lorenzana points out that, unlike her, some of the tellers dressed in miniskirts and low-cut blouses. "And when they bend down," Lorenzana says, "anyone can see what God gave them!"

Then the managers gave her a list of clothing items she would not be allowed to wear: turtlenecks, pencil skirts, and fitted suits. And three-inch heels. "As a result of her tall stature, coupled with her curvaceous figure," her suit says, Lorenzana was told "she should not wear classic high-heeled business shoes, as this purportedly drew attention to her body in a manner that was upsetting to her easily distracted male managers."

"I couldn't believe what I was hearing," Lorenzana recalls. "I said, 'You gotta be kidding me!' I was like, 'Too distracting? For who? For you? My clients don't seem to have any problem.' "

The managers instructed her to wear looser clothing. Lorenzana refused. "I don't have the money to buy a new wardrobe," she says, referring to her work outfits. "I shop where everyone else shops—at Zara!" Lorenzana recalls leaving the meeting feeling humiliated. Other female employees "were able to wear such clothing because they were short, overweight, and they didn't draw much attention," she later wrote in a letter describing the meeting to Human Resources, "but since I was five-foot-six, 125 pounds, with a figure, it wasn't 'appropriate.' " She was also furious. "Are you saying that just because I look this way genetically, that this should be a curse for me?"

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naturalbigbreatedwoman 08/31/2010 8:34:17 PM

Watched the video of her getting bigger breasts. Wondering why she is a single mom. I think she is nothing but a con artist and so full of herself. Get over yourself hun. What are you teaching your kid.
jim 08/31/2010 8:24:51 PM

what a bunch of whoohah...
Randy 08/29/2010 7:15:26 AM

If a well-endowed man wore skin tight pants that outlined his penis, he would be sued for sexual harassment - that is if he were ugly. If he were hot, the women would be distracted. Double standard.
A Bradley 08/22/2010 10:49:48 PM

I believed her and was on her side, until I saw the pictures of her skin-tight turtleneck, and saw this video http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/06/discovery_healt.php, where she is interested in plastic surgery that "does not look real," so she can look like a Playboy Bunny and find a successful husband. She sounds incredibly stupid and unprofessional--she should have never been hired, anyway.
Edward 08/22/2010 8:23:39 AM

I think she's sexy I like her body she's good looking I would do her!
Alex 08/22/2010 8:18:02 AM

she's alright...BUT I AGREE WITH AARON BARBARA MORI IS HOT!!! SHE HAS A STUNNING BEAUTY AND BEAUTIFUL EYES AND A GREAT BODY! OH AND I ALSO LIKE MEGAN FOX SHE'S HOT TOO!
Jaybee 08/12/2010 10:40:02 PM

It sounds like a wrongdoing by the Bank, but I believe there is much more to this story, how do you afford designer clothes on a Bank salary and Banks keep good employees, I worked for a bank with a lot of very attractive girls and the hard working ones never had a problem.
Edache I. Anejo 08/07/2010 5:19:59 AM

Babangida in my country says use what you have to get what you want! Debra,they ain't got wives as charming as you. More grease to your elbow. Edache
JOSEPH 08/06/2010 6:43:02 AM

I dont think she is too hot, well its a profession and looking good is good but being classified as hot is just a perception.To me she is ok. I will like her to be the next face of blastyourproject, and if anyone else is interested, pls visit http://blastyourproject.wordpress.com/face-of-blaastyourproject/
Lola7 07/31/2010 11:54:04 AM

Her body is hot but her face is beat.
Vish943 07/29/2010 3:00:42 PM

Sarah Collinge - the sexism in our society is and always has been against men. Women objectify men for status/power/money and simultaneously shame men into competing for it (otherwise get no sex), while also seeking to destroy/parasite/manipulate the men who have it (jealousy/hate because they can't attract such men for relationships). Feminism and liberalism exists solely for this purpose. Also, women have all the power, they can simply sit back and open their legs while men must work/toil/compete just to gain access to it.
Vish943 07/28/2010 9:35:05 AM

Michael Kelly you pathetic mangina - SHE is the one making herself into a sex object. And give me a break, the day men only see women as non-gendered "humans" - is the day women lose all of their power - which they love to lord over men - which is why hos like this dress this way in the workplace (where they have no place being in the first place). Women don't "need" jobs - they demand men "pay" for sex/relationships via status, wealth, etc. The only reason men have to work and pursue status in the first place is because of women's objectification of men as success objects, so these hos should just go home and stop stealing men's jobs. If women want to act like hos and bounce around all giving men hard ons - then men shouldn't have to hide or pretend that reaction doesn't exist. These hos should service the entire office as far as im concerned, not just the alpha males they dress this way hoping to catch. All of these feminist sluts like need to be BUKAKKED the second they walk in the office bouncing around - haha that'll teach them what their purpose is.
ross 07/22/2010 8:12:43 AM

Well I’m teaching a class of adult students and one of the female students who has a beautiful figure and big gorgeous breasts comes into class wearing tight skimpy tops and tight pants which emphasize her breasts and her figure. She often asks me over to her desk with a question. And she gave me a present. She’s friendly to me and comes up to my desk to ask something . She must know that it really turns me on. Or is she just being friendly - I don’t know why she dresses like that in my class. I’ve been very helpful and nice to her with her English studies but I want to focus on her brains rather than her boobs but shes making it difficult for me to concentrate. Ladies what do you think? Ross check out my blog www.cleavageintheoffice.blogspot.com
Josh Sherman 07/20/2010 9:22:25 AM

Banker? I hardly know her.
Michael Kelley 07/20/2010 9:06:43 AM

I cannot believe that these Neanderthals are still in the workplace. What is it about the NYC area that makes men think they can treat women like that? I once worked with a 6 foot tall blonde who was very statuesque and wore similar clothing. She was an executive in the accounting division and, as far as I know, did not suffer anywhere near the problems that Ms. Lorenzana is going through. Maybe Ms. Lorenzana should consider leaving NYC for someplace else where people are more judged by their merits and humanity than by their cleavage.
SLV 07/20/2010 8:35:14 AM

I was sorry to read that this is how it will play out. The only thing that bothered me, that really bothered me was how a woman making $70K a year and has 5 closets full of designer clothes thinks that it is appropriate to go unemployment. Yes she is "entitled" to it, but ethically that's also such a issue. Definitely more to the story.
Ali 07/19/2010 4:16:37 PM

Really? I wouldn't say she's hot; not ugly, but not gorgeous either. Just average.
Aziz 07/19/2010 1:09:20 PM

Because your beauty, everyone wants to have sex with you whenever an eye lies down on you. Anyhow, that will not be a problem for you, unless you're lowering your panty when you are spotted by someone.
Mark Jagielski 07/19/2010 7:49:06 AM

Above average looks, but not by much.
mike 07/18/2010 10:43:34 AM

Oh Yeah Barbara Mori is HOT! i would love to have a girl like Barbara. well she's not ugly i give her an 6 LOL! :)
j 07/18/2010 10:41:04 AM

OMG! she's not all that!!! she's AVERAGE!!!!
Aaron 07/18/2010 10:33:12 AM

WHAT? she's not all that great she looks like an average looking person is not like she looks like BARBARA MORI now SHE IS HOT!
Ross 07/16/2010 5:47:07 AM

I think thats terrible that that lady banker Debrahlee was fired for being too sexy - she should be immediately re-instated in her job - this is just another example of discrimination against women -after all she was just wearing a business suit- if she has a beautiful figure she can hardly hide that fact - whats she supposed to do - wear a burka!! Ross
Bill 07/12/2010 10:56:16 AM

Sounds like she needs to get over herself. Definitely suffering from Vanity affair. If she wants to work on Wall Street she should learn the difference from dressing from work and going to the club.
MQasim 07/09/2010 11:14:59 PM

As long as she is observing the bank dress code or wearing the business attire, I don't think any body has the right to object to something made beautiful and maintained by the individual. The particular supervisor need to take yoga classes
Sarah Collinge 07/08/2010 3:27:17 PM

This just shows you the level of sexism in our society. A man would never be treated like this for being attractive. We are way behind the times still when it comes to gender equality and women are judged only on their appearance. Unfortunately other women collude in this because it is safer for them to suck up to those in power, namely men. We havent developed much further than the days of witch burning...
Richard 06/29/2010 3:22:27 PM

I don't exactly understand the fuss about Lorenzana's work atire? Yea, she is well dressed but there isn't anything suggestive about it. The first two outfits shown above are more for an evening out or a date, but the work photos?... There isn't a thing wrong with the way she is dressed, in fact they are pretty conservative by today's standards. Yes she is a very attractive woman, but since when does that detract from her ability to do her job? It sounds like the execs of Citibank need to reevaluate their job performance evaluation if that is what they are basing her perfomance on.
lynn gargis 06/29/2010 7:49:47 AM

I thought this article was going to be about you.....
LISA 06/29/2010 3:34:34 AM

A Must Read
orna 06/29/2010 3:17:44 AM

she dresses too provocatively. all her breasts is out. so why she is complaining?
Paul S 06/28/2010 8:04:06 PM

I don't see any appeal to her..she looks like an average person and her body and arms are too large and fat. Way to flatter herself with this attention!
Maria 06/28/2010 9:45:23 AM

It's absurd to think how men are so superficial and so sensitive to a woman's looks in the workplace. What a bunch of babies! Firing someone because they are too pretty!? LOL What control freaks! Women have to deal with so much in a white male dominant professions, especially women of color. I hope Lorenzana hit's them right in the pants, where it hurts, their pockets! I hope she walks away rich, it's their error. The list of things said to her is insanity. It's not her ego that said she was too pretty, it's theirs! She could of been working this job, and nobody had to even know about her. Thanks Lorenzaza for having the balls to stand up to sexual harassment. Men don't care and never will. Until it happens to their wives and daughters, or themselves. Men, go fig, they want to hang a woman for wanting all her freedom, they want to kill a woman for getting "outta line"... it's like "Dear Woman, just be a f*ck object, and have my babies, and cook and clean"
Wht ever 06/22/2010 12:01:14 PM

Her outfits are not appropriate for the work place...but, the Managers handled the issue all wrong....unprofessionally. The suits were fine...they need to offer uniforms and then mind their business in the work place...do what you should be doing...bring some of those fees down...
Donald Visconti 06/19/2010 5:32:59 PM

I find this to be appalling! Usually, a woman's assets are welcomed on a job; instead, those attributes have become a liability for poor Debrahlee ! I don't see female attractiveness to ever be a liability. We guys should admire her AND her job skills/knowledge! In fact, I feel that female attractiveness should enhance male job performance: Would we want to appear like jerks/loafers to HER? On the other hand, too many attractive women lump all of us guys into negative stereotypes. Asking someone out, in a gentlemanly manner, is NOT "hitting on her"! Yes, I also see nothing wrong with consensual dating, after work. Even if the two are at different levels in the firm/agancy, so long as both are single, and no overt favoritism is shown, nobody should be "in trouble"! Human Resources, and management, should not concern themselves over consensual after work dating! I view this as a Civil Rights issue, so long as other mentioned problems don't develop (favoritism/non consensual activities).
John Dwyer 06/18/2010 8:28:38 AM

Jack Tuckner is probably the wrong man to represent Ms. Lorenzana. Citibank is exposing Ms. Lorenzana to economic slavery. It is unfair to expose her and her son to poverty for such an obscene reason. Keeping her job with such managers was enough of a tribulation for the poor woman. Kicking her into the street is a crime. Going from a $70,000 salary to nothing is more than a terrible situation. What's possible for her in this economy? "The United States is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced labor, debt bondage and forced prostitution. Trafficking occurs primarily for labor and most commonly in domestic servitude, agriculture, manufacturing, janitorial services, hotel services, construction, health and elder care, hair and nail salons, and strip club dancing…. More investigations and prosecutions have taken place for sex trafficking offenses than for labor trafficking offenses, but law enforcement identified a comparatively higher number of labor trafficking victims as such cases often involve more victims." Citibank should suffer for this violation of a person's rights.
Vish943 06/17/2010 7:10:03 PM

The solution to all of this drama is to have school and workplace segregated (or at least semi-segregated) by gender. Let's see what women can do on their own when they don't have men to steal from. Women have no natural productive ability and will probably just sit around and gossip. And men would then be free to concentrate without constant female sexual noise. Let's face it, women push themselves into male spaces to cause problems. Science is discovering the truth about women that religion has always known.
Alianne 06/16/2010 3:23:27 PM

This is pathetic. Yes, she is beautiful. But hot enough to cause distractions? Honey, don't flatter yourself. She isn't dressed inappropriately, but saying a turtleneck is always apporpriate is a lie. It's about the fit. The turtleneck is clingy, and shows off her body. A low-cut potato sack would be less showy. Maybe Deb really couldn't work well, who knew? Maybe she was being obstinate and refused to change her clothes, even after her superiors asked her to. Please don't assume that just because she's hot, and was told her form-fitting turtleneck was inapporpriate means she was fired for her looks. So either ever male employee at Citibank had no self-control, or Deb was in the wrong. Honestly, considering how much she spends on designer clothes and her breast implants despite being a single mom, she comes off as rather vain. IMHO, she was fired for messing up, not being too hot.
Susan Marie White 06/16/2010 8:22:43 AM

This is ridiculous, a SMART COMPETENT WOMAN IS FIRED FOR BEING ATTRACTIVE??? Maybe they could fire her Supervisors for having no clue.
steph 06/16/2010 8:04:22 AM

so she dresses sluty? i have been to many banks around arizona it is a common practice, only thing she did wrong was work at a bank with a bunch of pillow biters(queers) i myself dress sexy 2-3 times a week , similar outfits, sky high stilettos, stockings, tight shirts. fortunealty for me it hasnt gotten me fired only promoted, over female co-workers that wear boring slacks every day
Vish943 06/16/2010 12:27:27 AM

Andrea - real rape/harassment (i.e. of nice women) is not natural and I'm not saying that it is. What I am saying is that sluttiness is implied sexual consent. If a woman dresses and acts in a way to deliberately provoke the male mating response she's a ho who is communicating a desire for sex and sexual attention, and therefore can't cry rape/harassment when she gets it. If she does, then this is simply manipulation, a trick to get money or power and destroy men (which is the real reason feminists like you are so obsessed with "rape").
Andrea 06/15/2010 5:03:15 PM

Yikes! Just saw Vish943's comment "They dress this way knowing it will naturally provoke a male sexual response (men are hardwired for such reactions) then cry sexual harassment, rape etc. Most women are manipulative hos and hos need to know their place and understand what their purpose is." Rape? Rape is natural if a woman dresses in a way that Vish943 considers provocative? This guy seriously needs help. I think I'm going to have to brush up my on martial arts skills . . . sometimes I forget that freaks like that are out there. Or buy a nice burka.
Hugh 06/15/2010 10:17:40 AM

Are the guys @ Citibank gay? If you have a hot female that works in your office, that is actually good at her job, shouldn't that be a good thing? Where i work, there isn't exactly a wealth of young attractive women. They should trade in their man cards effective immediately.
chuck jones 06/15/2010 6:57:52 AM

CLEARLY APPEARS THAT MS. LORENZANA WAS HARASSED AT CITIGROUP BY A BUNCH OF JERK SEXISTS. SHE DID ALL THE RIGHT THINGS, KEPT HER HEAD HELD HIGH AND SHOULDERED THE INSULTS WITH DIGNITY. MY GUESS IS CITIGROUP WILL BE TAUGHT A LESSON ON HOW TO TREAT FEMALE EMPLOYEES BY A KNOWLEGEABLE JURY AND I EXPECT A BIG DAMAGE AWARD, PERHAPS ENOUGH TO BUY HER A FEW BIKINIS FOR THE BEACH CROWD TO ADMIRE. YOU CAN BANK ON IT!! CHUCK JONES
Vish943 06/14/2010 9:30:40 PM

Max, no man has a problem with women acting/dressing like hos - most of us enjoy it very much in fact. The problem is that under feminism it's all a trap. They dress this way knowing it will naturally provoke a male sexual response (men are hardwired for such reactions) then cry sexual harassment, rape etc. Most women are manipulative hos and hos need to know their place and understand what their purpose is.
Rooney 06/14/2010 8:50:50 AM

Shouldn't we be focusing on trying to stop the oil spill?
Max 06/14/2010 7:37:54 AM

generic male comment here.... why is it a problem if she's too hot. enjoy the time surely!
Mary1 06/14/2010 2:30:21 AM

Reply to Mary Artemis's comment of 06/01/2010: "If we dress to show off the curves, it may not be seen as conducive to business. I think it's just a mature attitude and acceptance. I, myself, as a woman, understand this." I would argue that it may be seen as equally not conducive to business to dress in a way that hides a woman's figure. Tailored suits are certainly considered perfectly acceptable and indeed preferable attire for business...Should a woman dress in a way that may be considered more sloppy simply because of the shape of her figure. Saying that showing off curves, which are natural, is possibly inappropriate, is not a mature attitude though it is certainly an acceptance.
Mary1 06/14/2010 2:15:21 AM

Just like in her workplace, people discussing this case are being distracted by how Debrahlee Lorenzana looks. That is not the point. I believe that it is irrelevant whether or not she is 'hot'. Regardless of her natural appearance, the question is whether or not she was dressing appropriately in the workplace. Having read the article, although I am of course aware that this may not be the full story, it certainly appears that she was dressing in clothes that would be considered appropriate by an objective, non-personal opinion. Appropriate clothes are dictated by the relation of the attire to the workplace, not by the relation of the attire to the wearer.
DeJaVu-2010 06/13/2010 8:49:06 PM

She is just sophistication. Not her fault the male colleagues cant't concentrate.
Roger 06/13/2010 2:52:30 PM

http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v19489738JfM4Nwrg# before I looked at this video I was convinced she was being "victimized" no longer. Take a look and judge for yourself then respond.
vanp 06/13/2010 11:35:49 AM

In a professional environment people are paid to dress following a dress code. Male workers are NOT paid to look at women parts and women are NOT paid to dress in a way to get attention to themselves, they all paid to get the job done and period. If men wishes to keep looking at women body them wait until the end of the shift and women if you need get so much attention get a position as a dancer or model, a professional company is NOT a place for to act in such low way.
Jack Kem III 06/11/2010 10:20:05 PM

If I were a boss I'd love to keep her as long as she do good at her jobs for me. Take care of everythings, and business, then it would be fine, it would be nice, isn't it?
Vish943 06/11/2010 8:24:15 PM

"Jeff" (probably some feminist pretending to be male as usual) - men are hardwired to react to the female body in a way that women will never experience or understand. The psychological and physiological effects are more powerful than the effect of drugs. Of course women KNOW this which is WHY they dress that way in the first place. The day men did not have these sexual reactions is the day most women would lose all of their power - the only real natural power women have. Are men neccessary? Men are only unneccessary if you steal everything from us and pretend it's yours. Evolution has determined that men are the production gender - not women - who are the reproduction gender and are only good for sex/babies and nothing advanced beyond that. Men collectively and individually are the gender who create, maintain and defend all facets of civilization. Women are simply manipulators and parasites who are good at creating the illusion that they are useful for anything other than sex/babies, and that they should be entitled to male rights and resources that they really have no right to at all. Amanda - without Patriarchy there'd be no civilization and no male wealth/power/rights for you to be sitting around lusting after and scheming on how to steal and divide amongst your fellow golddigging feminazi siszters. Women are inherently uncivilized and would simply live in communes with other women shagging violent alpha males and raising their bazstards as single mothers - i.e. Matriarchy.
me 06/11/2010 1:48:13 PM

she is plain
David Chowes 06/11/2010 9:01:09 AM

It may not be fair or moral on the part of her employer -- but, it is legal. Being too "hot" does not conform to any of the EEOC guideline restrictions. You can fire someone for any reason: being ugly, fat, or just because you don't like them. But, the VILLAGE VOICE cover story (and, Maureen Dowd's piece in THE NEW YORK TIMES may offer this young "hot" woman suffucient publicity that will earn her far more money than her position in the bank. (My use of the term "position" is not a double entendre.)
Alexey N 06/11/2010 8:51:41 AM

To some ladies posted before, please don't judge every living man by these handful of uptight fanatics with no sex life. I worked with women in different offices who were both hot and professional and neither me, nor other male coworkers had a slightest problem with their appearance.
Jeff Latten 06/10/2010 10:41:13 PM

More typical male bullshit. "oh, we can't work because our erect penises are blocking our view of our computers" or some similar crap. Isn't it always the woman's fault? Men just can't control themselves. Recommended reading: Maureen Dowd's "Are Men Necessary?"
joy32812 06/10/2010 9:25:28 PM

really? Oh.I can't see it..
Regina 06/10/2010 7:48:24 PM

If the bank does not have a dress outfit in writing.Then you can dress as you want. Only if the put on writing the way you have to dress. Like no legins. Dresses covering your knees. Do not show up , just four finger down your neck. Do not dress provocative. Then she can sue the bank.
Chester Arthur 06/10/2010 2:02:41 PM

She looks like a kind of bitch, and she wants to sell a big show to get what she wants: Money. That´s why she never must come back to work in a bank, because she loves money too much,facts are clear
Moishe McTavish 06/10/2010 1:01:41 PM

Oh yeah she'd be a major distraction. =D
Stealth 06/10/2010 11:19:41 AM

All of you schmucks out there that agree with Citi are freakin jealous. Take your asses to the gym so that you won't hate on her or anyone else that happens to look great.... I can't believe you insecure fools.......I'm on her side!!! Those Citibank managers are a bunch of losers.....
Stealth 06/10/2010 11:16:00 AM

I think Citibank is full of crap... I will not be banking with them..that is for sure...
KDprime 06/10/2010 10:10:26 AM

Did any of you schmucks who commented on the clothes she was wearing in those pictures even bother to read the full article? There's a slideshow including pictures of her wearing business atire, shot in her lawyer's office, that looks nothing like the other modeling photos. In those pictures, she looks professional, proper and I don't see anything too provocative about that at all. And there wasn't a hint of cleavage in those business clothing pictures. Her makeup was simple and tasteful. She projects a clean image. Sure, her figure is amazing, but that's not the point. Her male co-workers should have better control over themselves and not trip over their tongues. This whole thing is a classic scenario of using a beautiful woman to bring in business, and then handing off the accounts to male workers, leaving the woman to do all the trench work. Considering how well she did in her previous jobs before Citibank, it's clear that she's knowledgeable and works hard. As for the lack of on the job training, I was involved in a similar situation. A former boss of mine failed to get me trained in a variety of skills that I would need to do my job properly, even though I'd been working there for nearly 2 years. Later I found out through another manager was that the business was closing down at the end of that year. So I bailed out. I didn't ask for a reference. Now, to the people that don't think she's beautifu; either there's something wrong with your eyes, or you've been sleeping with the livestock for too long. Debrahlee's heartbreakingly gorgeous. I really hope she wins that lawsuit and finds a better job.
Ricardo Sánchez 06/10/2010 8:53:58 AM

The way of Lorenzana it´s not the usual image of a banker, she knows it, her lawyer knows it much better and everybody knows that this is the true. And simply she is doing her show, untill Playboy or another sexy magazine put the money on the table to show the rest of this beautiful girl who is playing a tipical show for her personal glory and to get enough money to not to come back to the bank never more and living then like a show girl. She is beautiful, Playboy must be hurry or Penthouse will come the first to put the money to see Lorenzana´s things on pappers
Jae65 06/10/2010 8:03:14 AM

Please tell me the clothes that she is wearing in these pictures aren't the ones she chose to wear to work. Cleavage is an ABSOLUTE no-no in any business setting no matter what size you are. If not, then these weak guys need to get a grip!
Alex D 06/09/2010 5:39:08 PM

I think they won't have a problem with her in Europe, the average bank teller over here is way hotter, she'd be average at best. Looks to me like there might be some hidden office "romance" revenge thing with her boss, like he nailed her a few times and got tired of her, thus looking for ways to move her to another location. Might be wrong but there's something fishy in the whole story as I've seen sexier looking female bankers while in New York.
Carla 06/09/2010 4:11:51 PM

She is a beautiful young woman, and a lot of jealousy is out there. To many youngwomen today are fat like pigs, they don't exercise, eat alot of junk food waistlines are flabby and their butts are huge. I eat right and exercise and I work two jobs. I hope she wins her law suit and get a better job!!!
frenchbelle 06/09/2010 2:40:38 PM

..."Are you saying that just because I look this way genetically, that this should be a curse for me?" Um, you don't exactly look that way, "genetically" http://dealbreaker.com/2010/06/debrahlee-too-hot-for-citi-lorenzana-explains-why-she-wanted-to-be-tits-on-a-stick/
chris 06/09/2010 1:34:01 PM

I find it very ironic that she is claiming she was fired for being "too hot",yet there are dozens of photos of her on the internet.Makes it seem like she is looking for a television or modeling gig.As far as her looks go...meh,I have seen better.Sorry!!
Jessica 06/09/2010 11:49:37 AM

first of all shes not a ten so i don't think she was fired for being to pretty. second not everyone in the heights dresses trashy like she stated maybe thats why she was let go for offhand comments like that or maybe cause her spanglish sucks or maybe she fucked her way to the top who knows
celly 06/09/2010 11:00:20 AM

SHE IS PATHETIC! SHE IS NOT EVEN THAT PRETTY. GIVE ME A BREAK! SHE IS JUST DOING THIS FOR PUBLICITY AND FAME. SHE PROBABLY WANTS TO PUT HER FACE AND NAME OUT THERE SO SHE CAN GET A JOB IN MODELING OR ACTING. RIDICULOUS! THERE ARE PRETTIER WOMEN OUT THERE. I DONT THINK SHE HOT AT ALL. AND I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM GIVING COMPLIMENTS ABOUT ANY WOMAN. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING. LADY YOU ARE NOTHING SPECIAL.
Dyelle 06/09/2010 7:50:04 AM

Posted under the slideshow but repeat after having read this article: I don't have a problem with anything she's wearing, I just find it funny that's she's filing this "got fired for being too sexy" lawsuit while having 26 PAGES OF PROFESSIONAL PICTURES in various "conservative" outfits with makeup and provocative poses in the Village Voice. Sorry, just seems like a woman out for a lot of lawsuit money; her faux outrage reactions don't mesh with this extensive "photo shoot". She is absolutely an attractive woman but something tells me she wasn't fired simply for being a distraction.
Martin 06/09/2010 1:55:40 AM

"The practice of making employees, as a condition of employment, opt out of their right to sue the company is a common corporate strategy." Why has this obvious bullshit not been outlawed by state and federal legislators? Is it because business has Washington in its pocket? As sexy as Lorezana is, that legal-political irresponsibility by legislators is a hotter story that the media won't pursue because it won't sell papers like Lorenzana's figure.
Martin 06/09/2010 12:39:23 AM

Writing to dlorenzana@citibank.com is no good. You just get an out-of-office auto-reply: "Ms. Lorenzana is out of the office and is not expected to return. Sweet dreams."
MARCY PERLMAN TARDIO 06/08/2010 8:41:15 PM

The case of Debrahlee Lorenzana is not only sexist, but racist. I say this as a white woman who has lived closely within Latin culture. Take the etiquette amongst men towards women at salsa events, for example. Latin women are often curvy, and women of all ages wear clothes that honor those curves. Yet at these events men do not leer at women, even as they admire them. Women are spoken of as "the ladies," and when dancing, care is taken as to how he touches her, a respect given even in this most sensuous of dance forms. Ms. Lorenzana's bosses, I would be willing to bet, were not men of color. And just as the Vogues and the Seventeen Magazines impart a culture of women devoid of curves, these men have likely grown up in this magazine culture, while fetishizing women of color. With their positions of power, combined with ignorance brought on by cultural differences, these men felt free to critique Ms. Lorenzana her God-given body and beauty, robbing her of her livelihood, let alone her sense of safety in the work place. Let these men come out to a salsa dance. Yes, they will probably leer. But if they pay attention, they will find a place and a culture where women can comfortably be women, curves and all. Let them take that back to the bank!
Rob 06/08/2010 4:58:39 PM

I am sorry to hear such horrific behavior but it doesn't surprise me , this is the type of world we leave in! People can be nasty. Be strong and keep the faith and be proud of who you are!!!
Tommy 06/08/2010 4:04:00 PM

This doesn't make since, She should be able to wear what ever she wants as long as it is within the dress code guidelines. She's being punished for having a nice body that's pretty sad.
Gina 06/08/2010 3:49:08 PM

With all the commotion regarding illegal immigration, she may have been fired because of her thick, Puerto Rican accent. Perhaps she should call Playboy for an interview.
UnReal 06/08/2010 1:37:21 PM

I am hoping and praying that SHE DOESN'T win anything. It seems to me that she can not follow simple rules when asked to do something. Most of the outfits she wore, except for maybe one or two, were WAY TO TIGHT for a corporate environment. No wonder people were staring at her on the street etc... she was busting out of her clothing everywhere. Flashing her goods, is probably the way she got all her customers, somewhat whoring herself.
Mark O'Brien 06/08/2010 1:07:57 PM

Is This Woman Too Hot To Be a Banker? My answer: no.
Henry 06/08/2010 11:01:22 AM

I think she's sly as a fox and is workin' it to the bank, if you ask me.
AMY 06/08/2010 10:49:34 AM

I AM SORRY, I SAW PRETTIER DRAG QUEENS THAN HER
Frank 06/08/2010 10:46:39 AM

There was a post this morning from Bloomberg which had an interesting take on this situation: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=axvTyrH1G0H4
Susan 06/08/2010 10:39:05 AM

I don't think the fact that she's had plastic surgery is an issue. If she has been singled out, and the bank doesn't have a uniform dress code that specifies that *all* women must be covered from the neck to the knees, or, that dress code has not been consistently enforced, she probably has a case.
Riot Nrrrd™ 06/08/2010 10:23:29 AM

People should view that video that icarust posted the link to (on VEOH). While she is undoubtedly beautiful if you ask me, if you have been harassed for your good looks "all your life", why would you go out and get not one but a SECOND set of breast implants (totally unnecessary with a figure and face like hers) to "stand out in a crowd"? She may feel that her clothing isn't inappropriate but you can't tell me that she couldn't have chosen other outfits that weren't quite as form-fitting, much less wearing stilettos in a business environment. *I* don't have a problem with her clothing, but I think she's kidding herself if she feels like she went far enough to try and deflect attention away from her. Somehow I get the feeling she wouldn't still get the same treatment if she wore Academia-like clothing and traded those stilettos for, say, Birkenstocks (to use an extreme example). I still believe she was singled out improperly for poor treatment by Citibank, but it's not like she did everything in her power to avoid the issue. Simply choosing not to wear makeup will have little impact if you're already naturally beautiful. (She should move out to LA and disappear anonymously into the crowd, as nutcase Philly newscaster Alycia Lane recently did.)
Hondo Howard 06/08/2010 10:13:44 AM

The fact that this story omits Debrahlee's proud addiction to plastic surgery, and her desire to look "like a Playboy Playmate," and to have "Double D" breasts is pretty disingenuous in terms of how she truly desires to draw attention to herself. Serving as the spokeswoman for a Long Island plastic surgery clinic is certainly worth mentioning. Here is her promotional video: http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v19489738JfM4Nwrg#
venetia austin 06/08/2010 8:28:29 AM

I beleive she was fired for the reason she gave. Companies target nice looking people period as anti social when they choose not to be part of the social activity(s) that are taking place not even under cover. There should be an investigation to this effect on all job sites. It should be random like a random drug test. This goes on everyday and job proformance is always their way out.
Derek Turner 06/08/2010 7:20:40 AM

Hell yes this woman is too hot to be a banker. She needs to be on the big screen or in magazines. Men wouldn't be able to concentrate on the job with this beauty roaming around. She definitely would get too much attention.
Tony B 06/08/2010 7:02:17 AM

In my vast experience within the banking industry, I might find that the older senior members within such organizations may have been disturbed in Ms. Lorenanza's choice of work-apparel at times, however, in today's age and today's society one must adapt to the appearance of others and must tolerate and accept others. As apparent in other nationalities and people who have immigrated into Canada or the U.S.A. over the past decade or so and to whom now occupy our workforce, many of these nationalities dress in manners which they claim are appropriate for their specific religious reasons. I find it somewhat comical to suggest that should one dress in a manner which may make them feel confident then we object to that; a little hypocritical isn't it? If something makes you feel good about yourself and gives you a sense of confidence then you should be able to wear it as long as it does not physically harm someone else and is not obviously directed as an insult to others or insulting a specific group of people or should private parts be obviously exposed. Hey you liberals out there....free society or not? Without dwelling on the psychology of the entire matter, it is my opinion that most if not all of the outfits I have seen which were worn by Ms. Lorenanza are entirely appropriate for a work environment and if the oldman-fuddie-duddies and their respective spouses and jealous members of the same sex can't handle it then it's THEIR individual problems, NOT that of Ms. Lorenanza. Performance and attitude should be the only factors that count in this type of work environment. I hope she does win her case against the banks because for as I see it these senior management teams within the banks and in fact, bank management as a whole, have to be knocked off their high-horse. They operate their business with arrogance and a good majority of them treat their employees in a demeaning way and worse than second-class citizens..."my way or the high-way" approach...very insecure group of people if you ask me and this woman's case is just another example of management's insecurity....or could it just be another example of their "bullying" techniques continually levied onto their employees?....I bet if the banks had a union to protect the employees this entire dismissal thing would not have e occurred......hey; maybe THAT'S part of the answer?.....
HyenaKiller 06/08/2010 6:56:43 AM

Oh, but she is HOT... Damn.... no, I mean it, DAMN!! I can't even think straight anymore... What was I just sayin? Oh yea... SHE IS HOT!! I like it hot...
mattsuw 06/08/2010 6:11:23 AM

she is attractive. Great body. But too attractive for banking? what does that mean? I'm too sexy for this ban, too sexy for this bank, toooo sexy.
Philip F. McCracken 06/08/2010 6:10:50 AM

Go for it senorita. Even though I am a man, I have seen too many biased companies that make the rules and then only enforce the rules on only a select few. No equal rights here. You are a blessing to your son. Stand up strong and don't let people run you down. God is with you. Beauty, Brains and a strong personality. Eres bueno.
SwissBanker 06/08/2010 2:41:07 AM

She looks great. Is she a hooker?
icarust 06/07/2010 11:46:10 PM

Video of Lorenzana getting her second set of implants..she wants bigger, so she looks like Pam Anderson and "stands out in a crowd". Her doctor tries to talk her out of it because she'll look unnaturally big. Her response? "I don't care". BTW, she started out an A cup. http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v19489738JfM4Nwrg# One more thing: it's not that she's wearing turtlenecks, pencil skirts and heels. It's that her clothes are WAY too tight, her nipples poke out, and her heels are stilleto peep toes.
Ida 06/07/2010 9:42:37 PM

I believe this woman and not because I am one, rather based on what I have seen over the years. Is unfortunate but I can just imagine this complaint was started by another jealous woman that is not able or could not carry the cloth as well as Debrahlee. I guess Debrahlee should have worn cloths just like the Amish woman, a bonet and long bulky dress. My goodness, why people in a place of work won't mind their own business and just concentrate on their jobs? A message to all unhappy working people, if you are overweight and desire to have a nice looking body like Debrahlee, watch what you eat, and keep your eyes on your work and don't worry what your co-worker is wearing. By the way your employer hire you to be productive and help them acomplish their goals. Debrahlee's brain is not in the clothes she is wearing. To Debrahlee lawyer, better do a good job for her and get those suckers to pay!! Too many stupidity like this happens all the time and people are not aware of their rights or maybe afraid of the Lions. Good Luck to Debrahlee and lawyer
DB 06/07/2010 8:56:36 PM

I don't get it. She's not that hot. I she trying to get media attention? Odd.
jane trent 06/07/2010 6:33:06 PM

She definitely has my sympathy - but why on earth is she posing for photos in tight, low cut clothes? It undermines her credibility. Women certainly DO have the right to dress any way they want, but for the purposes of being interviewed by the media over a wrongful termination lawsuit for being fired for dressing too provocatively - then WHY is she dressing in a provocative manner? She should not have lost her job - but she isn't displaying common sense - and what is up with her calling herself a "spic"? that is the equivalent of the "N" word and no self respecting person of Hispanic descent calls themself a "spic". I don't think she is the sharpest knife in the drawer and she is being badly advised by her lawyer. She is doing things that are more along the lines of a starlet trying to get a reality TV show contract - than a serious businesswoman. What planet is she on? It pains me to read articles like this because I am a feminist and this article makes her look like a nitwit.
Abbie 06/07/2010 6:24:29 PM

I think it's misandry to suggest that men can't control themselves or think rationally around attractive women. If I were male I would take that as an insult to my sex. But anyway, that's beside the point. It's not a woman's problem if men can't deal with being around attractive women or feel threatened by their intelligence and success. If what she says is true then good luck to her. I hope she takes them to the cleaners.
lily 06/07/2010 4:00:23 PM

WOW, we have some serious haters here. I bet you if she dressed with baggy clothes, she will still be called to attention. I have been to different banks in Miami, and there are many women who dress inappropriate. Did she even get any complaints from her previous employees regarding her appearance. We love to judge others, but once the judging is sent our ways we start bitching, Leave the woman alone. She looks Beautiful....HATERS!!!
Kasheri 06/07/2010 3:13:40 PM

She seems to be arguing that her appearance is a "genetic characteristic" and is using that as her avenue to a complaint of discrimination. I don't believe she has a valid complaint. There is no law against an employer discriminating on the basis of appearance. What really catches my attention is that she mentions receiving repeated warnings ... See Moreand clear direction from management and HR as to how they wanted her to alter her wardrobe. She talks about how tellers dress more provocatively. Well, the tellers aren't making $70k. She's in a conservative industry. She was given ample opportunity to adjust her conduct to meet her employer's expectations. She chose not to. That is classic employee insubordination. To be fired under those circumstances is neither discrimination nor sexual harassment.
Wolfenstein 06/07/2010 2:34:35 PM

hmmm...Im for and against this woman and article. It seems to me Citibank is using her incompetent lawyer to set her up. A real lawyer would of put a gag order in until he was sure he would get the arbitration clause thrown out (she is not a native speaker, this clause was unconscionable). I was once a broker at a California Bank in NY. Once the whiteboys saw the lil' black boy jungle making more calls, leads and appointments than them, they got all uppity, copied my sales tactics and got me fired. Funny how her attire was not a problem with CLIENTS and was not a problem when she was bringing in the business which was ironically made more difficult after Citibank's 1 dollar stock meltdown! Another form of Irony exists when this EMT worker got offered $70k !!! This after never going to college (which is a joke anyways) and simply working as a MEDICAID sales person at the local hospital. How you jump from $12 bucks an hour to a $70k a year job is beyond me. Something fishy here I swear, the lawyer for starters is prolly getting a kickback or under table money for his complicit incompetence
Vish943 06/07/2010 1:06:50 PM

Joe, you should be embarrassed for being a self-hating member of your own gender who runs scurrying to defend women (slutts at that) like their trained little lapdog. You're a captain save-a-ho. Don't you man-ginas get it, women don't like nice guys like you (and the guy i used to be) who respects they. They dress and act that way because they want to attract aggressive alphas, then get angry when some "icky" beta looks at them. That's what most of these so-called sex crimes are about.
Paulo 06/07/2010 12:20:59 PM

The bank is crazy, because this woman employed it isn´t prostitute! I will can give a job im my company!!!
Jack Macockoff 06/07/2010 11:49:36 AM

No wonder the banking profession is in such disarray...they can't work with beautiful women without being driven to distraction.
not buying it 06/07/2010 11:33:58 AM

This is how I see the story. She is probably used to getting her way and what she wants at previous positions that were not as professional at Citibank. She could always manipulate her way into or out of things. At Citibank, she was not able to get away with as much, so she created this story and sought an attorney. Really she is not more or less attractive than most women in careers. She just got her golden ticket.
Joe 06/07/2010 11:26:46 AM

I'm embarrassed for my whole gender. Seriously sad. If any women are listening out there, you should know that all men can control their actions. We may not be able to control our thoughts 100% of the time, but we aren't "hardwired" to jump on every attractive female we see. We aren't "hardwired" to show pictures of our private parts to female co-workers. In what world is this appropriate? We can control what we say and how we act. There is no excuse for any professional man to act like a freaking idiot. I am a man, I work in finance, I am happily married, and I work with many, many attractive women. I don't stare at them, I don't comment on what they wear or talk to their chest when having a conversation. My parents raised me to be respectful and have a little thing called manners, self respect, and decency. Will I turn my head to look at an attractive co-worker? While I'm still breathing, probably. Will I do this discretely without attracting attention. Hell yes! What kind of idiot talks about a woman's appearance, is rude to her at work because of what she looks like, and harasses them at every chance they get? Where were they raised, in a zoo? No control? Oh PLEASE guys, let's not fool ourselves. Everyone has the ability to control their thoughts, urges, and certainly what they say and do. If they don't, they don't belong in civilized society or they have some sort of mental problem. It doesn't matter what a woman looks like, if your attracted to her or not, you can control yourself and act like a self respecting adult. I'm embarrassed to be a guy right now. What if this woman were your daughter, your mother, your sister? Seriously?! Respect other people and act like a freak'n decent human being. How difficult is that? Embarrassed!
c. rogers 06/07/2010 10:41:22 AM

Too bad about the man who can't think when his penis is standing up, this is about Debbie and her abilities on the job. The employer must prove that she was not doing her job to be fired. As a second option, I'll bet Miss Debbie could get rich working in a clinic with men who suffer from E.D.
Vish943 06/07/2010 10:20:13 AM

Most women are just good for sexual pleasure(and they know it, which is why they dress this way) and don't belong in the male workplace. Let women make their own economic and political systems and defend them and then they can control how it operates. Also, we are animals, and men are hardwired to react to females, especially provocative females. And women are aware of this, which is why they dress this way, to attract the alpha males in their workplace, as well as to get an easy ride. It is not up to men to control themselves - since the reaction is involuntary - esp when provoked by slutty females. We ARE animals after all.
She's Not Hot 06/07/2010 10:08:59 AM

She's not hot. She's 33, has a kid whose father wants nothing to do with either of them...obviously beyond immediate looks, which will fade in a short matter of years, she's nothing beyond mis-placed ego and over-priced clothes.
Dirty Harry 06/07/2010 9:17:52 AM

Go back to Puerto Rico you busted skank! I love my women 100% AMERICAN!
David Wright 06/07/2010 9:13:44 AM

Oh, sure! She is really IS a hottie, but it is way more than her looks, which really causing guys to lose their control. It is her aura, way of carrying herself inside that is really the key. I knew a woman in graduate school who shared research/study space in the same room with me, but her desk faced the other way from me. I didn't have to turn and look at her to know she was in the room. I could simply FEEL the air change. Could it be simply that she is perfectly comfortable with her sexual energy and her identity as a mom, nevermind that she is lovely?? There are women less attractive who still can turn heads because of how well they are put together INSIDE. On the one hand, it is good that men notice, because they are noticing her beauty on several levels, not just on libido levels, but that there is something else. On the other hand, it is what one chooses to do about that energy. It really points up how twisted our attitudes are about women and sensuality. Too bad! This could result in a great teaching and story for many people.
Humberto Aguilar Garcia 06/07/2010 7:45:37 AM

Me gustaria contactar la revista
matthew lovoy 06/07/2010 7:42:01 AM

well I think they should of handled it better than what they did. Thats so wrong. They could of told her we going to transfer you to a another branch or something like that like she had requested. And been done with it. Now they might be in big trouble Yes she is a beautiful woman . She cant be punished for being to gorgeous. come on guys. It looks like to me she has brains and beauty. isn't that what every woman wants. and men
Disappointed 06/07/2010 6:18:25 AM

This lawsuit is ridiculous. Her lawyer should be sanctioned for even entertaining it. She is a hypocrite and cannot come out claiming discrimination when she makes stereotypical comments and offends hispanics and specifically other hispanic women. Hopefully this story will die down and we can start focusing on hispanic women that actually contribute good to society instead of wasting our time and overloading the court docket with this nonsense. She should seek a therapist and not a lawyer to deal with her insecurities so she can stop defining herself by her looks, get her head out of her a&*, stop bashing other women by calling them trashy and start focusing on advancing her career by using her brain.
oblue 06/07/2010 4:59:33 AM

I don't think she is hot..... http://oblue.net
sylvia quinones 06/06/2010 11:57:03 PM

She's a hot latina woman with sex appeal. Her sex appeal radiates from every fiber of her being which is simply natural in beautiful latina woman. If she were white with the same look way we wouldn't be discussing her and it wouldn't make a difference. My admiration goes to you and yes sue their pants off you deserve every penny for all the aggravation and humiliation they have put you through. Stay looking as beautiful and sexy as you truly are and continue to be yourself, that sexy in itself. Best,
Marie 06/06/2010 11:40:19 PM

It does seem as though she was discriminated against. The wrap dress is definitely inappropriate according to the average workplace's standards, but if tellers were wearing similar outfits, and she was the only one singled out, then company policy was arbitrarily applied, and by definition, she was discriminated against--for whatever reason (gender, race, culture, take your pick). Especially if her hard-won business leads were given to her (male) colleagues. She's got 15 minutes of fame, though--and I'm sure she'll find a way to make use of it. I see TV presenter in her future. Discrimination might be the best thing that ever happened to her. I hope she'll still care about gender issues and heterosexual biases once she's rolling in cash.
Frederick Hudson 06/06/2010 6:45:46 PM

To the Editor: Deborahlee Lorenzana’s tortured journey through Citibank in search of career growth and respect merely illustrates a basic genital reality of male-oriented business bastions: the space occupied by corporate power also frequently serves as a sexual laboratory for male insecurity and thwarted passions. How else to explain Ms. Lorenzanz’s hiring at Citi for a position serving small businesspeople without a single college credit in anything let alone business courses. She had no experience as an entrepreneur so she could hardly share insights into the difficulties faced by her clients. It may well be that her previous positions may have been the result of the hiring manager’s desire to bed her; after these desires reached fruition or failure, she may have felt the need to move on. Such is casting on the corporate couch. Sincerely, Frederick B. Hudson
B.A.Gilmore 06/06/2010 5:34:55 PM

I completely understand what she's talking about. I worked in a public service job and was an alternate shop steward. One of the workers came to me to defend her because she was written up for the clothing she was wearing. The manager told her it distracted the male workers. She was beautiful and she did have a good body, but she'd never worn anything revealing or inappropriate to the office. The next day she brought in a picture of the outfit. She had on a long sleeve turtleneck, suede skirt with red tights and brown knee high boots. I was stunned. She was covered from neck to toe.
Dipayan Sarkar 06/06/2010 3:55:59 PM

Citibank has always been like this. Either this or that - but unethical. In India Citibank forged my signature and later payed me "compensation" with an agreement that I should not disclose this matter. I am reachable at sarkar.dipayan@gmail.com.
Yellow105 06/06/2010 2:18:27 PM

No sympathy from me, honey. I've seen this before. Young woman with top-model looks comes to work looking for attention, and then files complaints when she gets it. HR departments have been dealing with your type for years.
charles jackson 06/06/2010 2:04:06 PM

yep she's too hot.
Mark-in- Dayton 06/06/2010 2:02:07 PM

Mr. Parks....if the cops can pull you over and give you a citation for speeding based upon their best guesstimation...then how far are we from cops being able to "guess" your BAC level for a DUI/DWI/OVI violation without the need for a breath test? Actually...we're their already. Mr. Parks: check out youtube...Pat Condel...and his rant against a mosque at "ground zero". You should be on top of this. Sincerely.... MAZ
KDT 06/06/2010 2:01:16 PM

Seems to be a contradictory story here. Two of the three photos on the main artice page portray her in a sexy way, and we are asked if she is too hot to be a banker. Then, if you follow the link to the 26 other photos (see: http://www.villagevoice.com/slideshow/too-hot-for-citibank--30014985/) that are supposed to be her business/work attire, we are given a different picture of her. As from my perspective, she does look hot in the first two photos on the main article, but the other photos she looks ordinary, nice, and professional looking, with exception of a few that could be questionable, especially the all black form-fitting tight outfit. That definitely is not appropriate for a corporate environment, just as it wouldn't be for a man to wear a muscle shirt or tight spandex form fitting around his private parts. So then, what is the case here, are we being asked to judge or comment on the first three main article photos, or on the other 26 business photos? Seems like the first three pictures are just bait to catch readers (esp. men), and with most people not even seeing the other 26 photos, it makes you wonder if this dear lady understands that this article in some ways undermines her case, or just exploiting it. And yes, I am a normal man who finds prettier women more attractive, but I would NOT have no problem as her boss telling her which outfits were appropriate for work, and which ones were not. Most of her business attire is fine, but a few are just wrong. And, my last comment is for all the inappropriate comments people have made to insult her and Citibank when no one really knows all the facts, but many of you act like you know everyone else's motives when you don't. Give and it shall be given unto you...
Mdawg 06/06/2010 1:02:14 PM

Hell, I'd give her all my money.
Mayday 06/06/2010 12:47:37 PM

The issue seems to have nothing to do with attractiveness and everything to do with showing up dressed inappropriately for the workplace. If a less curvy and less attractive person wore equally tight, revealing and suggestive attire to work (male or female), it would still be just as inappropriate. Shame on the author of this piece for suggesting otherwise.
Milt 06/06/2010 12:42:56 PM

"Spic pride"? Wow. And, great job, Village Voice, in printing that as well. Nevermind the fact that it's n-word for Latinos. Just wow.
St. Louis Reader 06/06/2010 12:42:45 PM

This kind of discrimination DOES exist -- I'm certainly not good-looking enough to have experienced it myself, but I've seen other female (and even a few male) co-workers go through it. People don't want to believe someone can be good-looking and smart, so they start picking them apart or undermining them in the workplace. That said, I do wish Lorenzano hadn't posed for some of those sexy photos while trying to prove that she did, indeed, dress appropriately for work. I still believe she has a case, but yikes ... those photos won't help her win it.
Yolanda from the Barrio 06/06/2010 12:12:34 PM

BITCH PLULEEEEEEZE! If you brag about making 70K a year, why cant you buy yourself some eyebrows that don't look like they belong on a cheap transvestite. Get over yourself you gold digger - you are not all that!
Pirate Queen 06/06/2010 11:15:10 AM

Stupid patriarchy.
dave henri 06/06/2010 9:01:26 AM

Why shouldn't anyone try to look their best.With todays styles, darn near EVERY girl here looks great..why should she approach it any differently?-it's her taste in a free world.Because pencilnecks don't have the capacity or self-respect to treat her as a professional instead of sex object,her life has to suffer?-She is stunning,but hey..lots of girls in N.Y. are..at the same time,the business world,with it's hypocritical pre-historic b.s.-needs to enter the 21st century.
Bob 06/06/2010 8:36:38 AM

Sounds very similar to the requirement by many Arabs for women to wear the burqas covering every inch of a woman's body. Why? So the men will not be excited by the sight of an inch of a wman's body. At least the bankers focused their energy on only this one woman.
jimbo92107 06/06/2010 8:23:29 AM

Obviously she's too scortchingly hot to work in a bank. However, she could easily star in an "Ugly Betty" style comic soap about a scortchingly hot woman working in a bank, and how she deals with all the male pigs that try to make life hard for her. Bank, no. TV show about a bank, heck yeah!
yauco 06/06/2010 6:58:07 AM

She is beautiful with a body to match. She's also conceited and narcissistic. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and she sees herself too much.
evolved 06/06/2010 6:17:08 AM

Hey, if we "evolved humans" came from pond scum and are going back to the dust of the earth without an afterlife accounting for our actions...why shouldn't females try to entice males to notice them by their provocative peacock feathers in order to advance their careers? And why shouldn't the males try to entice the targets of their reproductive biologies in any way they know how? We are just the product of "survival of the fittest" theories that we are all taught from kindergarten to college, right? This is a clear example of "might makes right". America has to start teaching it's people a new life philosophy if you have a problem with this real world example of a pure "natural selection" situation. If Lorenzana and her team is weaker than Team Citibank, she will get eaten alive. And if her child is probablistically lucky, he might be left to be raised by a pack of wolves. And Darminianism says that is just fine...life in the big statistical universe. How many of you evolutionists can seriously have a problem with that?
Joe 06/06/2010 6:02:55 AM

She's nice looking, just doesn't know how to dress appropriate for work.
Mark 06/06/2010 5:59:22 AM

She's attractive, and has a body that's fodder for every heterosexual mans wet dream. However, her being sexually attractive isn't her fault or her problem, and I hope she takes them to task.
Mary 06/06/2010 5:35:57 AM

It sadden me to see how difficult it is to be a woman in the business world. I've been dress downed by my so called betters. I once had a broker berate me for selling a fund his company sold. The fund had run it's course. He knew it and I knew it. His view was my money was his. He treated me like mental trash. Needless to say we no longer transact business. But it was hurtful. I had to go thru hoops to close the account. By my reckoning I was shorted a dollar. I tried to fight for the buck owed but decided that Bull of Wall Street needed it more. As it's business model was shakey. This was all pre-911. It is a sad commentary but like the French say:"The more things change.The more they stay the same." My niece had some situations being a fox at a yen trading desk in the 90. Nothing as strong as this womans story. But one wishes Man would focus on the person's intellect, not gender. I wish Debralee all the best. There is intelligent life outside of Wall and Main. Watch your debt ratio,seek good people and you will find them.
Jean Michel 06/06/2010 5:32:00 AM

Tell theese men to go stick theri penises in an ICEBOX...SUE their collective asses off!!!!
Mac 06/06/2010 5:18:09 AM

Debbie for President!
pat 06/06/2010 5:04:16 AM

Oh the burden of being a man. Just like Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The woman tempts the man who really wants to concentrate on other things. Maybe women should be drapped in burkas and kept at home for the good of all.
Mallory 06/06/2010 4:58:09 AM

Surprise, surprise men intimidated by a successful beautiful woman. Really, its not that hard just control your damn hormones!!!!
Dan 06/06/2010 4:54:43 AM

Looking at these shot, and reading her story, I can see where men would have the attraction, but also I cannot see where as "professionals" they could not control themselves. If this is an actual situation, and in todays world, I don't really doubt it, then citibank needs to check the quality of their people in leadership. As a photographer, I would say Miss. Lorenzana has the looks that she would do good as a model.
Howard 06/06/2010 4:52:25 AM

Years ago my small law firm hired a secretary that was a tall, busty, very attractive woman. There was no way to hide her figure. The all male attorneys would glance admiringly at her, but never was she criticized for her dress, and we would never have considered terminating her. I wish Deborah Lee good luck in the arbitration.
Dominic Chan 06/06/2010 4:49:51 AM

Honestly, if I have her in my office, I'll look at her all day and get very little work done. I'm a partner of a law firm specializing in litigation and I'll be more than happy to handle her case for Citibank free of charge. No question about it!
Diane 06/06/2010 4:45:40 AM

Oh for God's sake. I worked for a bank in the 70's and know women who still do. Banks and financial institutions are still the chauvinistic places they always were. In the 70's we wore miniskirts. Very. Mini. Skirts. The majority of managerial positions were held by men. Very dirty old men - like the commenter Jim Bean on 6/2 @ 8:36. Gross. None of the girls could walk around without getting patted on the butt unless they were over 50. We were asked to retrieve a particular file from a certain bank of cabinets-even those of us who were married. If you had an identifiable waist, you were fair game. This woman dressed in fitted business suits. In later years I wore those too, and if you have any kind of a figure, you cannot hide it. I was a size 4 and still got unwanted attention. Why should she dress in boxes when other women allegedly did not? If the male bankers are so infantile they cannot control their behavior, then perhaps they should be retrained and attend classes. There was a movement regarding sexual harassment towards women in the 80's that never took hold for bankers. Evidently these guys have no concept of what women went through in that era, and here we are again. This is like blaming a woman for being raped because she had on an attractive outfit. And "wanted it" or was "asking for it". Give me a break. What is wrong with these people? She was supposed to drum up business. Who is going to get better results? An attractive woman or a frumpy, dowdy, 55 year old? Those bankers knew what they were doing, and they still have [and always have had] the good old boy atmosphere-wink wink nudge nudge stick together. Evidently she tried to dress down and was reprimanded-a no win situation. Some guy supposedly showed her personal porn-his penis, is anyone looking at his computer? The pictures accompanying this article are a disservice; they should have shown exactly what she was wearing to work, not silk blouses w/cleavage. Latino woman do dress with flair, but I don't think that is the issue. Maybe she was too good at her job and with her successes supposedly handed off to other male workers, the boys got uncomfortable. This is not new in the banking industry. Finally, the male species have always melted at the sight of a curvaceous woman with exotic looks and an accent. The only way she would be able to avoid that is to wear a veil as Muslim women do, but then her eyes would be blamed for having "that look", whatever that is. How disappointing to see the banking industry has not changed in this particular area.
SouthIndian 06/06/2010 4:42:24 AM

Well, if these attires are distracting then the next thing she must try is a hijab or burka. May be she must wear a hijab for her arbitration.
Jim 06/06/2010 4:27:11 AM

This woman dresses professionally, from experience as a Bank Regional Manager in 3 banks over a career of 18 years, she seems to be in a really sticky area that has nothing to do with her. She is a beautiful woman BUT this has nothing to do with it as long as she wears clothing that is appropriate for a woman in her position. Suits, skirts, dresses, dress clothing overall is appropriate. if they are fitted clothing that follows her bodies curves, thats fine. Overall if she professionally is as good and as knowledgable for her position as it states and she does good work, well then this does seem to be the onld "boys club" mentality. Probably she turned down sexual advances and she was professional and then the heat came on her to drive her to the edge. it happens everywhere, but big business and at banks a lot. most senior management are men, and when a woman can hold her ground the guys just get shaky, but when because she is beautiful they tried something and didnt get anywhere and probably were embarassed. If the stories facts hold true - she should take this bank for what they are worth, She seems to be a valuable asset, and her talents can come to use at other institutions. Good Luck!
Mo Hammed 06/06/2010 4:11:36 AM

You see, my friends, this is exactly why we need the burqua. Men are animals who cannot control themselves, and cannot be expected to. Therefore, they must control women instead. This woman chose not to wear a burqua, so let the consequences be upon her.
John 06/06/2010 3:57:54 AM

She's looking for attention that's why she wore sexy clothes to work. This whole lawsuit is a great way to get noticed and will help her break into our countries shallow pop-culture mainstream. I'm sure FHM or Playboy will throw an offer or two her way as well as the usual suspects. There will be Oprah, a made for Lifetime movie, the talk show circuit and maybe a book; I guarantee we'll see more of her. What we won't know is whether or not the inner beauty matches the outer, which is more important, because the outer beauty will fade.
Paul K Ward 06/06/2010 2:49:19 AM

Is she a great banker? I'll hire her. Does she fit with the Citi culture? Seems like she doesn't. Does that reflect poorly on her, or on Citi? Two things, in this order, reflect a person's ability to succeed: Alignment with the culture, and ability to learn. Attractiveness is also positively (but not strongly) correlated to personal success. In my view, any bank that matches her culture and encourages her growth should be thrilled to have her on the team. Not to mention, any of the distracted staff people get a chance to mature by learning self-control and reordering what is truly valuable in the world.
Connie Bryson 06/06/2010 1:46:33 AM

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the push-up bra.
outsourcing 06/06/2010 1:17:18 AM

Woman Too Hot To Be a Banker. i favour this thing. raghuraj
KDT 06/05/2010 11:49:39 PM

From the photo gallery of all 26 supposed outfits, it appears that certain of the outfits are definitely inappropriate, especially the black tight, form-fitting one. Apparently, she doesn't understand that, and yes, she does have a point about other employees not being told also. Also, it doesn't matter what one's salary is, as anyone can pick appropriate clothing. As far as many of the comments posted here, it isn't right to speculate about people's motives, just stick to the facts of the case. Provocative photos that we know she didn't wear to work, and her lawyer's explicit sexual language only shows the case is taking on a completely new dynamic, and yes, being a man as myself, some of her photos look very sppealing sexually, but is that what she is wanting to do with the case, as it seems to be proving Citibank's case instead of her's.
d 06/05/2010 11:27:58 PM

She's not that attractive that I couldn't concentrate. Its all about interior beauty and one's heart. :)
Colleen 06/05/2010 11:00:29 PM

I have a curvy body as well, but I do not flaunt myself like she does. She is pretty but she needs to dress in a more humble attire. She seems to be struck on herself.
kanjisasahara 06/05/2010 11:00:22 PM

She is so hot that its ridiculous. And it is ridiculous that she got fired because of it. Normally it goes the other way, she gets a raise and distracts every guy in the general vicinity. But apparently the boss is distracted by her fine curves and is incapable of making proper decisions.
WTF 06/05/2010 10:52:01 PM

this kind of CRP makes news now ??????? WTF
njbj 06/05/2010 10:51:31 PM

I believe the reason given for firing her was her performance. If the company did not train her to be certified to achieve the quoted performance she was fired for, then they do not have a case. Furthermore if they also quoted as part of the reason she was fired as being late on two days when the business was closed, this does not bode well for their case. She looks great. The company is not allowed to fire her for that. If they fabricated other untruthful reasons, they should pay the price. If a person needs to be fired, then fire them: just don't lie about why you are firing them. We know what lying gets you. Just ask Martha Steward or Scooter Libby, both of whom were busted for lying.
nizam sherazee 06/05/2010 10:50:42 PM

IS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (U.S.A.) A SELF-STYLED DEMOCRACY ? IF IT IS SO, THE U.S.A CANNOT PUSH OTHER COUNTRIES TO FOLLOW HER STYLE. EACH AND EVERY COUNTRIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE IN THEIR OWN WAY OF DEMOCRACY. MYANMAR DEMOCRACY WILL BE UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF HER OWN CULTURE.
DP 06/05/2010 10:13:52 PM

What is journalism coming to ? Why is this even a news?
Bernie 06/05/2010 9:57:06 PM

"I've seen men turn into complete idiots around her. But it's not her fault that they act this way, and it shouldn't be her problem." The corporate workplace is very strange. You have to fight to get anywhere. If your the least bit vocal about any mistreatment, You are marked.
analisa 06/05/2010 9:20:56 PM

Dammit Lorenzana, you have to knock out a tooth or else you will never get another crappy corperate job where you have to deal with polotics and hateful eyes.
WeaselSpleen 06/05/2010 9:04:43 PM

If I were her boss and she wore that tight, form-fitting black suit from the photos to work, I'd tell her it's inappropriate, and she really needs to wear something looser. And if she gave me some bullshit excuse about not being able to "afford" to buy other clothes, I'd give her ten bucks and tell her to go buy a jacket from a thrift store. She was specifically told to stop wearing tight clothing, and she refused. Insubordination much? Comparing herself to tellers, who make bare subsistence wages, is pathetic. She's in a professional role, of course she is held to a higher standard. Some of the outfits in those photos were fine, but the black one that forced her boobs into full-on assault mode was completely inappropriate for business. I don't give a shit if you're from Puerto Rico, that outfit is not professional, unless your profession is high-priced call girl.
Tom Brown 06/05/2010 8:06:41 PM

Lots of girls look as hot as this one and know how to dress well without attracting the wrong kind of attention. When you're working with a lot of men (or women, nowadays in the big city), you have to learn how to dress like a businesswoman, not like a starlet or a "professional" of the wrong sort. That said, I think articles like this one with photos like this one will get looked at. She can expect a spread in at least one men's magazine and maybe a start in acting.
Mark 06/05/2010 8:05:22 PM

Numerous studies have proven that men *are* actually dumber after viewing an attractive women. The male brain is wired to short circuit and focus on sex when attractive women are nearby. I think it is perfectly acceptable to require women to dress more business appropriate while at work. Low cut, tight, revealing, or otherwise "sexy" clothing *IS* a distraction in the workplace. If you can't follow a reasonable, business appropriate dress code, then yes, you should get fired.
Tony 06/05/2010 7:17:55 PM

Send her pics to Bartcop
Ian 06/05/2010 7:13:40 PM

You guys are either blind or desperate.This woman is as hot as a lump of fresh shit.She even looks creepy and sick with some kind of disease.Go ahead and take a good look she has that diseased,hooker look.Damn you guys are desperate.
Michele 06/05/2010 7:09:43 PM

So sad that they spent a Christmas with out presents. But it truly says something about her priorities that she didn't sell some articles of clothing to buy her son something.
dde 06/05/2010 7:01:06 PM

She's fat. All Women suck.
Jean 06/05/2010 6:31:46 PM

LOL - she thinks she's too hot and that's why she was fired? Conceited much? Her superficial claims show you how dumb she is and she deserves to be fired. In every job, there is appropriate dress - whether you are an athlete, a banker, or a nurse. Look at what she has chosen to wear in these photos - she looks like a hooker and through the interview, she sounds like one of those crazy bimbos who blame other people but never accept responsibility for herself. Do you want a hooker handling your banking needs? No way! She just wants her 15 minutes of fame and this is the only way she can get it because she lacks any true intelligence.
c 06/05/2010 6:28:04 PM

No such thing as too hot for the office. We have a girl at our office which is just as hot, if not hotter (her ass is rounder and her waist is slimmer), and nobody's distracted by her. This is a b.s. case and it's a loser. However... way to get some her publicity! Acting or modeling career next?
vu 06/05/2010 6:03:27 PM

virtually all banks hire hot people for these banking positions. they're all under 35. what better to get you to sign up for refis, new loans, new accts, etc. my local branch has 3 really hot girls at relatively high level positions. and the guys got a lot of attention too. even basic tellers look pretty good here. all industries that involve sales hire good looking people. that's the nature of the business. have you ever seen an ugly sales rep for a pharmaceutical company? no, unless they're old and ugly now but were hot when they were young and just kept with the company.
Matt 06/05/2010 5:01:03 PM

Jesus. Well, she is hot. Other than that... but normally I think a lot of women are too fast on the draw with these kinds of things. But I have to side with her in this case. No one should be sacked because they are "too attractive", nor for being too "unattractive" (ie, esp. if it is not an inherent part of the jobm such as being a model, etc.). That is dumb. People should not get that kind of treatment.
Larry Flynt 06/05/2010 4:01:05 PM

Hey, all you who think the clothes she wore in the photo spread are what she wore to work, WAKE UP. The guy who wrote the story said that when they took the pictures she took the opportunity to have a little fashion show. You think she would have worn that black nightie to work? Please. This is purely a publicity stunt, that's why all the various attires in the photo spread. She said she didn't let her boobs stick out when at work. She'll wind up being a model, maybe do a centerfold, and cash in on her ability to give guys a woodrow. Reality show? What would the theme be? Living in the city and being too hot and turning heads? BORING> Once again....Please... This womans dogma is about to get run over by her karma
HedgedIn 06/05/2010 2:24:31 PM

How do you know that Citi is truly at fault? Obviously this woman's lawyer is going to try to swell her claim as much as possible that this is about sexism, when their claim is that it had to do with her job performance. Without being able to see that ourselves, there's no way to know one way or the other. A woman will cry SEXIST at the drop of a hat because she knows it'll make people pay attention. Any time someone's not being politically correct it always brings an onslaught of support for the injured party and her lawyer knows it and she knows it. I bet if she were 280lbs. claiming sexual discrimination you'd be on Citi's side.
HedgedIn 06/05/2010 2:16:28 PM

How do you know that Citi is truly at fault? Obviously this woman's lawyer is going to try to swell her claim as much as possible that this is about sexism, when their claim is that it had to do with her job performance. Without being able to see that ourselves, there's no way to know one way or the other. A woman will cry SEXIST at the drop of a hat because she knows it'll make people pay attention. Any time someone's not being politically correct it always brings an onslaught of support for the injured party and her lawyer knows it and she knows it. I bet if she were 280lbs. claiming discrimination based on gender you'd be on Citi's side. You're the pig, OakRaid, you and all of these other self-righteous feminist morons.
OakRaidFan 06/05/2010 1:48:04 PM

Citi can't do anything rightl they bought collateral default swaps which led to our current financial crisis, as well as to the new consumer agency being created to protect us from bonehead moves, like Citi actually believing what AIG sold them was genuine. We have had personal experience with their ineptitude regarding home loan modifications. This article shows they're also sexist pigs.
Steven Goldberg 06/05/2010 1:28:52 PM

187 words To The Editor: According to the Voice, Debralee Lorenzana was fired by Citibank for being “too hot.” Lorenzana’s superiors suggested she dress in a less provocative manner as the bank’s customers want those handling their money to be conservative and stable.. The lawyer representing Lorenzaba, in her suit against the bank, asks if this means that Lorenzana’s male co-workers “can’t think anymore ‘cause our penises are standing up and we can’t think about you except in a sexual manner.” YES. The answer is yes. All societies have recognized that female sexual attractiveness can take priority when other goals are to be met Indeed, if this were not the case we would not be here. Societal acknowledgment of this has always been clothing, less-revealing clothing when important work is to be done. Indeed, the people who recognize this most clearly are women, who dress precisely as does Lorenzana when they want to attract and arouse a man. One might see Lorenzana’s suit as still another example of political correctness’ childishness and naive ignorance of reality. But I suspect in this case that a desire for attention and greed play a bigger role. Steven Goldberg nighttrain@nyc.rr.com 212-734-6725 Steven Goldberg is Professor Emeritus of City College, City University of New York.
queenofromania 06/05/2010 12:59:30 PM

Just get the hot babe to wear a burkha. Problem solved! That's the way it's done in the Muslim world where the men call the shots.
James Witter 06/05/2010 12:51:09 PM

All women should look this elegant. I guess we all know which heads are doing the thinking at Citi Bank these days
JC 06/05/2010 12:42:20 PM

The problem here lies with Citibank. This woman was inappropriately dressed for the interview (see the black wrap dress in the slideshow) and apparently had vague qualifications for the job but they hired her anyway. At what point did her attire start to pose a problem? They knew what she looked like when they hired her, and they did so to use her to hook clients. If she turned out to be ill-suited for the job and/or the citibank culture that's their own fault. The way she dressed for the interview wasn't appropriate for any corporate job, let alone banking, and was a strong indicator of her priorities, judgment and ability to fit in. Citibank is reaping what it sowed by hiring her. I also don't think her regular work outfits were appropriate for the industry she was in, but what did they expect after the skintight wrap dress she interviewed in? It doesn't surprise me that she was confused when management's expectations of her changed. I mean, you hire a woman based on her looks and then turn on her and tell her not to be sexy? That said, I have a strong suspicion she is a nightmare to work with and she is a fool for jeopardizing her case with these ridiculous photos.
John 06/05/2010 12:39:42 PM

she should be allowed to keep her job !!
Bo 06/05/2010 11:14:18 AM

Citibank should just write their former employee a blank check, for the behavior of their poor distracted and biased managers.
Patrick 06/05/2010 11:03:47 AM

She is a beautiful woman with great character. What could be wrong with that.
JB 06/05/2010 11:01:10 AM

This is a beautful human being. The corporate world is not for her. She should be in acting where her beauty and sensuality can be celebrated and appreciated and compensated according!! She is a young Sophia Loren! Celebrate your beauty girl! You are just in the wrong career!
sierra night tide 06/05/2010 10:58:27 AM

6/3 I went to City Bank. The women who were not "babes" had on suit jackets and non v neck shirts. One City Bank woman who would be considered "a babe" had on a pencil skirt, low cut top & stellto heels - Sounds like discimination to me. BF says he sees this scenerio often at CB. So was Debrahlee Lorenzana TOO much of a babe?
HedgedIn 06/05/2010 10:52:12 AM

Something else I'd like to add, because though I am a woman and a mother, these raging feminists seriously irk me to no end:WHY is it that you insist on blaming men for your own problems? It's just like the race card, because I'm black/hispanic/asian/insertracehere! I am so sick of It's because I'm a woman! You don't hear men complaining of the same ill. I don't see any men throwing a fit on the way out the door saying it was because they were too masculine for their coworkers to handle. The feminist movement is all about women trying to reverse the roles...women are the only ones allowed to have a say and men should just be quiet and keep donating their sperm so we can continue to procreate. Why should women be able to look at men but men aren't allowed to look at women? Women complain of being treated like sex objects, but I've seen the inside of a few clubs and it's not the men dominating things. Women MAKE themselves into sex objects and wear clothes that are too small and advertise the fact that they're loose so that they can get their jollies off and then have the nerve to get angry when men treat them that way: LOOSE. So before you go pointing the finger, try having a look in the mirror, girls. Your hypocrisy is disgusting, as is your POOR ME attitude.
bro 06/05/2010 10:20:30 AM

There is a time and place to dress like this and a bank is the wrong place, change it or your fired.
art 06/05/2010 10:17:58 AM

She has some C S'r lips!
Kachoo 06/05/2010 10:17:27 AM

There is nothing like the Comments section of online articles to remind us just how rude people are. I began working in finance at 19 and was surrounded by many meat head brokers who would spend a good part of their day calling me to pant into the phone and then hang up. While there are definitely many beautiful women out there, they don't all work under the same men. Business and finance can attract some seriously superficial knuckleheads and it appears that she ended up working for a few of them. While I wonder why she would be willing to take any saucy soft lit photos (especially in anything other than her supposedly controversial suit or turtle neck) the point is that her appearance was mentioned too many times in unfair ways. It's a fact of our culture that curvier women elicit a response that supposedly high class tall shapeless model figures do not. (Compare fashion magazine cover-the flatter they are the more 'upscale' their reach.) For those of you sarcastically responding 'poor beautiful woman...' YES, it is unjust and sucks to not be taken seriously whether it is the color of your skin or shape of your parts. And in the work setting, it is illegal. I highly doubt she could have all the records of communication about her clothing if it was not an issue. And doubt even more that this woman did not struggle to dress accordingly. Who the thinks a woman should move boxes in heels??? Or thinks they can advise a woman to wear make up?? Or are you seriously thinking she made that all up??! There are all sorts of inappropriate people out there, as this comment board so perfectly illustrates.
Whys 06/05/2010 10:15:17 AM

I'd like to make a deposit. :D
Jenni Watson 06/05/2010 10:12:44 AM

Can I just ask what fantabulous person thought her wardrobe was relevant to this case? She's being persecuted because that's what men do to women- yes all of you do it- so what's new? She's covered in areas required by law, beyond that her dress, her labels etc are none of your or my business. Creeps.
HedgedIn 06/05/2010 10:11:14 AM

I see a lot of people mentioning how intelligent this woman looks, and how she looks like she has brains, etc. I fail to see, having read the entire article, how anyone could get that impression just from a couple of racy pictures and an article that's obviously written to puff this girl up and put people on her side. She's no different from any working mother, except that having grown up poor, she's obviously learned nothing about cherishing what we have and that money is not something to be frittered away and wasted. Instead of saving up for her son's education, she's blowing it on clothes that cost $1000+, teaching her child the exact opposite of the values she had the opportunity to learn, herself. It says she went to various homes, both of relatives and nonrelatives...sounds like a child prone to problems, to me. She also hasn't been able to provide her child with a consistent father figure, which teaches him nothing about having and caring for a family. And this sexual harassment issue has followed her for some time. So this woman, who looks just like every other dime-a-dozen magazine "beauty" faceless female, seems to have a tendency to show off the goods for a stir. Rather than a busty beauty scorned and demoralized because she's just too pretty for society, I see a woman who probably got most of her first breaks because of her beauty and never looked back. Instead of appreciating her poverty and the gift she was given to escape it, she became spoiled by it and seeks attention because of her own insecurities after being left alone with a child and feeling lost and unwanted. Now she probably skips from man to man just like she goes from store to store, letting her spoiled child be raised by money and learning jack about the real world. What a waste.
Al 06/05/2010 10:06:21 AM

stupid bankers...they should try being a high school guidance counselor for a day.
bts 06/05/2010 10:01:26 AM

She may be a good banker but she would probably make a great wife and mom.
johnny 06/05/2010 9:58:00 AM

this is stupid
Test Test 06/05/2010 9:55:43 AM

Also, how could she keep an accurate count of how many men were gawking at her and do her job at the same time?
Tony B. 06/05/2010 9:48:45 AM

Debralee is HOT, Sarah Palin NOT !
Test Test 06/05/2010 9:31:46 AM

She looks hot just like every other woman who works for a brokerage. Not TOO hot. I'm sure she got fired for some other reason.
Shaun 06/05/2010 9:27:37 AM

This is the stupidest article haunting the news in a long time. First of all, there are countless banker women who are far sexier and more beautiful than that tank. Go to a few banks in your own town, your bound to see women who put this act to shame. Why is the media hyping this up? Even the complaint is far from being proven, the bank say's she can't do her job, I for one, choose to believe them, it's obvious she's no distraction.
rob 06/05/2010 9:20:21 AM

If a man has a great body and shows up for work at a bank wearing skin-tight shorts and a muscle shirt, he'd be fired not for being "hot," but for dressing inappropriately. If a woman doesn't know how to dress for work in a professional business office, then she isn't doing her job properly, same as a man who dresses inappropriately, as well.
Tony C 06/05/2010 9:13:24 AM

She is beautiful, should be an actress or model, not a banker. Do I think she is too beautiful to be a banker? Not if you put her in a burhka! To say she is innapropriately dressed, when the tellers that work there are dressed far more seductively is wrong. On the other hand, a man can be professional, but inside most of us lurk a caveman begging to drag a mate to his cave. Sorry if that seems uncivilized, but some men do not want to be civilized, and some cannot help but admire beauty.
Kirk Hughey 06/05/2010 9:04:11 AM

This may indicate one reason for the banking meltdown; the males in the business seem to be distracted by everything but doing their job. Rather than being too hot to be a banker Debrahlee may be too intelligent and too honest.
reeggneh 06/05/2010 8:57:58 AM

Oh get over yourself already!!I am really sure that when you walked into the room, no one could concentrate any longer!!
Gina 06/05/2010 8:55:27 AM

Why do these articles ignore the obvious? She simply isn't attired for professionalism. Would you expect to see your male lawyer in his office wearing beach trunks? Even if he has a sculpted body, he's going to dress like a professional. She dresses as if she's going to a party, not to the office. It's as simple as that.
Jeffmarek 06/05/2010 8:54:03 AM

Based on her past perfance reviews I highly doubt the companies claims she was a bad worker. As a man, my personal experience in the corporate world is you always get a percentage of men who are pigs and their mentaility usually gets worse in groups. Many workplaces do not take it serious enough. Hopefully the truth gets out.
roberto ortiz feliciano 06/05/2010 8:52:12 AM

Tras leer sobre tu predicamento, siendo un caso que se halla en proceso (ya veremos los resultados) solo puedo aportar. al menos, dos comentarios: Primero, es desgraciado que muchas personas en situaciones similares (como casos de hostigamiento sexual en el lugar del empleo o discrimen por genero) al proceder con una accion se ven objetos de una tactica someto desprestigiada pero que comoquiera produce muchas angustias, me refiero que ser victima, los demandados (los hostigadores o sus representantes) intentan convertir la victima en culpable (victimaria). Este truco sostengo se ve con demasiada frecuencia en la forma de una justificacion inaceptable, ejemplo: ella se lo merece, ella fue la causante, etc. Segundo, hhay algo, sino mucho, de prejuicio y discrimen racial/cultural en esta controversia. Descripciones insisten en que la Srta. Lorenzana es boricua, su tez es "bronceada", sus curvas, su estilo de vestir, insinuaciones de su estilo de vida, etc., estos enfasis que se le dan a la personalidad de una manera velada tratan de 'estereotipar' a la Srta. Lorenzana como una mujer latina caliente y sensual, lo cierto es que muchas mujeres boricuas gustan de representarse afirmativamente y es parte de sus actitudes un sentido de orgullo y autoestima que se proyecta en su vestimenta, es cultura y es totalmente saludable. La Srta. Lorenzana sabe, como casi todos los boricuas y muchas otras personas tambien, que por ejemplo, en Puerto Rico (y en las comunidades hispanas en los Estados Unidos) hasta las abuelitas son coquetas. Es parte de nuestra cultura. Resiento mucho algunas de las acusaciones que se han hecho en comentarios sobre su porte y figura porque siento y noto el desprecio y racismo. Pienso que sabes que en Puerto Rico y entre los boricuas tienes mucho apoyo, pienso que sabes que para nosotros, hombres y mujeres, con sus inevitables excepciones (siempre hay envidiosos) nosotros creemos que una madre soltera y luchadora que siendo una mujer guapa y muy atractiva ha buscado 'echar pa' lante trabajando honestamente, es un orgullo y merece respaldo.
Thozzomantis 06/05/2010 8:49:31 AM

Take off the makeup and delete the photoshop work and let her be photographed in the light of day. As a photographer I know it's possible to make almost any woman under the age of fourty look hot. This is no different.
PCL 06/05/2010 8:45:25 AM

I'd like to see companies start firing people for revealing too much fat rather than too much sex appeal. There's nothing more revolting than being handed food from a McDonald's employee who has obviously consumed way too much of it. Obese people of both sexes should be required to wear girdles while on the job and should be fired if they're too heavy to keep themselves clean. I have to add that banks (at least the BofA branches I use) are ahead of the curve on this. The representatives are usually neat and fit.
Shoreline 06/05/2010 8:26:23 AM

Ms. Lorenzana should go into sales. Most people don't want to see salespeople... unless there's *ahem* a compelling reason. Either that, or run for Vice President.
Marie 06/05/2010 8:24:20 AM

If she really wanted to be taken seriously and have people stop focusing on her figure and looks, she wouldn't have posed for a series of sexy and provocative pictures.
NYC SUCKS 06/05/2010 8:24:02 AM

I read this article and some of the comments. All this does is reconfirm my beliefs that NYC is a completely superficial, self absorbed bogus geographical location. Dress codes, corporate ladders, back stabbing co workers.....what a lame life people lead in the big city. Sure, it happens everywhere, but NYC always wants to be the leader and here you go, leading the heap of shit called modern society. Get out of the little corner of the world called New York and get the fuck over your superiority complex of being "the best city". Your city sucks and so do the pretentious, phony people filling it up with bullshit. Glad I live far, far away in the mountains with real humans, not a bunch of fashion dorks. Fuck you and fuck NYC.
trudye 06/05/2010 8:21:40 AM

She's a gorgeous woman, apparently with a brain. Shame on her......she deserves the work in a stress-free environment as do the rest of us. If her employers can't handle her looks, they might concentrate on THEIR jobs. Who'd thunk? What dolts, I hope she wins her case. It really is not her fault she's been blessed with all the beauty she has. So live with it fellas....she's also a person.
soxman 06/05/2010 8:21:22 AM

poor baby, it is SO hard being beautiful...
Pamela 06/05/2010 7:43:43 AM

The same thing happened some 25 yeras ago when a 23 year old woman was fired from her job as a law secretery because of her naturally big bosom. She did not dress provocatively but the men found her distracting and the females in the office were jealous. The law firm where she worked said that she was a poor performer in her job yet she had excellent evaluations and had the proof. Never called out from work in the 3 years that she was there. The girl got a lawyer. In the end the law firm had to pay the girl a judgement of 100, 000 dollars plus all of the pay retroactive from the day they fired her.
Laszlo 06/05/2010 7:35:23 AM

she reminds me of Helen of Troy, "the face that launched a thousand ships"
marc 06/05/2010 7:31:50 AM

She should be rewarded for her contribution to the business and the those managers who do not understand that need to be sent to a seminar or something.The fact that management has time to spend on this sort of thing says to me that they have too many managers. In my experience it is the women who complain about other women so this also has a creepy element in that men are complaining about being distracted. The guy that insisted she wear heels to move a box should have been arrested on the spot. In fact, I would say that incident is going to be very painful for them. She is beautiful but so are sunsets and airplanes and if a manager considers appearance before contribution then the managers above need to act.
Kyle 06/05/2010 7:21:47 AM

In court the one thing that she and her attorney better be prepared for are her performance numbers. If she was in a job, like making loans, etc. to reliable clients, etc. then they had better be at least average. I know everyone wants to believe her story. But I have heard stories like this before, and it doesn't add up. I just want to ask every male here, would you fire this woman because of her looks? Seriously! Further, the article states this branch hires because of looks, that means there were other attractive women around. Further, New York City has a reputation of being a city full of hot women. I don't know, never been there. So the distraction argument falls on its ass. No, I look at the letter to HR, that was hard to understand, since english is not her first language. Hmmm, with a name like Debralee that is strange. How long has she lived here. What is her education....
MM 06/05/2010 7:12:24 AM

She is definitely super-model material and as a result of the publicity this case has generated I am sure she will receive offers that will dwarf anything a banking career could offer. What makes her even more attractive is her intelligence and character. Sadly,"brains" are in short supply in the world today and the bank she worked for proved this. Good luck, Ms. Lorenzana...they did you a favor. Women deserve better.
koko 06/05/2010 7:03:21 AM

She better use her energy to get anoter job if she is really that good instead of wasting time and money on legal procedure.
Cheryl 06/05/2010 7:01:54 AM

Whether readers chose to believe it or not, the "good old boy" system is still very much alive in the workplace and men, particularly those who have a title or a little power, will in fact behave in a piggish manner toward females at work. They then, much like police officers or doctors, will circle the wagons and protect one another. If this woman performed her job well they may have felt threatened that their position was in jeopardy of being taken by this woman and if they couldn't protect their territory by superior performance they were willing to stoop to their basic instincts and attack her on another level. (Please note: the supervisor who chastised her for tardiness didn't even get the dates right). That certainly raises red flags for me as to his level of competence. It isn't this woman's responsibility to control the behavior of her male colleagues. I hope she prevails and the company is not only penalized financially but severely sanctioned for allowing their employees to behave in such a brutish manner.
InTheBubble 06/05/2010 7:01:22 AM

She's hired! And I'll marry her too!
BDGFN 06/05/2010 7:00:00 AM

Not only is she beautiful, she seems, from this story, to be intelligent and hard-working with her priorities set in what I consider the right order...first and foremost her and her son's well-being. I have worked around and with people from many different backgrounds over the years, and for the most part, Latinos/Latinas in professional fields have some of the highest work ethics of anyone. I have no problem believing her story of being harrassed by her managers because of her looks, especially if she made it clear to them that she was not available to them and their "attention" was not welcomed. Good luck to you in your suit against Citibank.
kimlagoon 06/05/2010 6:58:51 AM

I still didn't get her educational qualification. Its a long article but about what? Lotta people get fired every day. So what if she was fired. Citibank was very wise to have arbitration in the contract. But what's a big deal about her beauty. She is unsuccessful in relationships.
Antonio 06/05/2010 6:58:20 AM

Yo meteria ahi todo mi dinero!!!!!!
Ted64 06/05/2010 6:53:36 AM

What kind of world is this, where we can't trust the words of big banks and big oil companies? Seriously, though, I think that much of the problem stems from the distorted image portrayed in movies. Take a look at any movie or show that shows successful women (Sex and the City, for example), and you will find that they are dressed quite provocatively. Immigrants see this, want that kind of success, and try to emulate these women. "Always dress for the job you want, not the job you have" is something my dad always told me. Citibank has the right to set a dress code, and what they should have done was to give her a formal written reprimand and the opportunity to refuse to comply, then terminate her for dress code violation before they fired her.
Joey Janson 06/05/2010 6:47:12 AM

interesting story & pics..but her face is rather homely. I wouldn't be distracted-
ms. lawyer 06/05/2010 6:38:21 AM

This woman needs to get over herself. Work is not a catwalk and she is no model. She is a retail banker (big deal!) and does not come off as educated or articulate. She obviously likes the attention and has now found a way to profit from it. She doesn't understand the professional world nor will she ever. Both men and women are expected to dress professionally when they are in a professional setting.I'm a lawyer and had dealt with opponents, judges, colleagues constantly undermining me until I lowered the hem and buttoned up the shirt.Sorry, honey, that's the real world. Wear your slutty clothes on the weekend and just try (sob, tear) to make it down the street without being visually raped. You are not the only one. You are a cliche and an embarrassment to beautiful, successful women everywhere.
Bob 06/05/2010 6:27:20 AM

If true, Citibank is acting like the Taliban.
Jim 06/05/2010 6:21:52 AM

Get over yourself butter face.
Mike 06/05/2010 6:16:58 AM

She will probably be on a reality show or in Playboy soon, so her 15 minutes of fame are just beginning...
Andre Felix 06/05/2010 6:10:17 AM

How can we trust now Citibank ? Very, very wrong decision !!! They should have put her in ‘reception services’ for men for account openimg !!! This Bank don't want to become rich, or what ? (Sorry for my bad english / I’m french / Can someone put my comment in good english and send it to Citybank, please)
Mr. Edgar 06/05/2010 6:06:39 AM

For those of us who have been "laid off" know this is not a story and understand that she has no chance of success with her pursuit of justice. Unless you are in the union you are not protected. "Any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work." The bank got rid of a squeaky wheel, nothing more. It happens everyday.
ProfessionalLady 06/05/2010 5:35:58 AM

She is a beautiful woman. Some of her clothing is appropriate, and some really isn't suited to a professional woman in her position (what the tellers are wearing is irrelevant--she isn't a teller). I would not be surprised if some of her male colleagues behaved unprofessionally around and toward her; nor would I be surprised if she became somewhat sensitive and misinterpreted some of what was said to her. It would be nice if both sides stepped back, tried to see what happened from the other's point of view, and sought the win-win. Citibank could benefit from her skills and her beauty (which *is* an asset), and perhaps could give her an initial clothing allowance and an image consultant to help her build a work wardrobe that made them both happy.
James Huffer 06/05/2010 5:24:14 AM

The lady seems to have a head on her shoulders and I find that refreshing concidering the abundance of equally attractive but brain dead women that become famous. I hope she wins her case and not because of her looks but because of her work ethic and the common sense displayed by her list of priorities. She seems a person well worth knowing and as a single man I also appreciate her as an exceptionally attractive woman but I say that with a healty measure of respect for the lady for who she appears to be from this story.
fellowcurvygirl 06/05/2010 5:19:56 AM

This lady is absolutely GORGEOUS! I do believe that this woman was targeted because of her looks and I hope she shakes 'em down for everything she can get...and I would be hard pressed to find women in Midtown or in most other places that look this good...some of you think that a 5'11" size 00 is attractive...well you should think again...unless you need a toothpick then I could see it
peter 06/05/2010 4:03:27 AM

behind every man stands a good women, these men are all thinking with the wrong head and should be ashamed of themselves
Hylas 06/05/2010 3:33:50 AM

Nice of the Voice to play the Dupe in this Wannabe Model's publicity stunt.
123 06/05/2010 3:28:45 AM

"Is This Woman Too Hot To Be a Banker?" Well, NO. I have seen much more attractive women at my local bank. This is a scam, as others have said, she is looking to get famous on her average looks and a fabricated story.
Concerned 06/05/2010 3:28:38 AM

Typical Greedy Banker! If she wins the lawsuit, will it come from TARP funds (aka - our tax dollars)?
chris 06/05/2010 3:10:16 AM

I hope and pray that she sticks it so far up the bank's depoisitory they bleed to death in damages. I will withdraw all bussiness with shitybank, and never again do business there. Maybe the wives of these distracted men should become aware of THEIR conduct, and asked how they would feel if their same conduct were directed towards their wives and/or their daughter[s]. It is my contention that the proponderence of the evidence is certainly in her favor, and should generate a substancial monatary award or be reviewed by a court of law to set aside the aribtrator within the sixty day time limit to do so, in the 2nd Circuit Federal District Court. Clearly this bank could care less about her son, and that fact is displayed by this case and the treatment of his mother.Shitybank is dispicable, I say everyone make a run on this bank and pull out ALL THEIR MONEY!
asdf 06/05/2010 3:08:25 AM

I don't have time to read the article but I will say she has a nasty face and dresses like a ho.
Erin 06/05/2010 2:52:55 AM

The airlines long discriminating against women for not looking a certain way and for weighing too much. Now this woman is fired for looking TOO good. When will people start judging employees based on their performance. If Lorenzana was a man, and had tailored suites and looked like George Clooney, would the male executives say he was "too distracting?" Would the female executives be unable to concentrate? This is absurd.
Rick Saints 06/05/2010 2:26:30 AM

Yes, she is too sexy to be a banker, and she and her attorney know that it is so. Showing the tits is not the best way to work in a serious thing that a bank it´s supposed to be.
Eddy 06/05/2010 2:33:41 AM

She is a beauty of Puerto Rican/Italian blood,she has pride,work ethic/beauty/dependability,and a son that'll be an extra push to get her to work everyday. So,this woman is a beauty that any company with 1/2 a brain nds to recognise and utilise. Her problem is that she is at a company too stupid to recognise what or WHO they have in their employeement.
Bill E. Maze 06/05/2010 1:44:54 AM

Ah, I am reminded of an old saying that went as such. Do you know the difference between a slut and a bitch? A slut will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone except for you. It would appear that Ms Lorenzana is only guilty of not "giving up the goods" and these frat boys turned on her. I hope she gets paid.
Augin Kömurcu 06/05/2010 1:41:50 AM

She's really a beauty to me :-)
Dmajor 06/05/2010 1:32:34 AM

Denny Crane!
cartman 06/05/2010 1:20:59 AM

She is alright with me!
donald Patriss 06/05/2010 1:16:25 AM

Men are held to a dress code, suit and tie. they wouldn't be allowed to wear a tie with a weird design or short pants etc. Why shouldn't a woman have a dress code. I have seen women in Puerto Rico where I live half of the year wearing inappropriate clothing to work, tight fitting, cleavage showing as in the picture with this article. There is clothing one wears to the office, and clothing one wears to dances and social events. If you want to be part of corporate America, you play by the rules.
Justin Faith 06/05/2010 1:11:53 AM

What do we even care about this womens story?
lolofred 06/04/2010 10:39:37 PM

More power to her..Would I be distracted if I work with her? Hell no!! There won't be any call in sick for most male employee..Give me a fucking break..You better tell the wife of the executive to not meddle in the bank's affair..Get her own job and stay there or take care of the children and leave her alone..
Bob 06/04/2010 10:08:29 PM

I believe that ...a ..what was the question again?
Reverend Draco 06/04/2010 10:07:27 PM

It's pretty simple - if you're not selling, Don't Advertise! If you're advertising, don't whine when someone makes an offer to buy. . . Duh.
Cotton Picker 06/04/2010 10:03:29 PM

Would need to examine the hottie evidence up close and personal before renderingf a decision.
susan 06/04/2010 9:13:56 PM

lmfao wow......i'm having a drink right now, and some of the comments are freaken ass funny. damn people are just asses and bitches. k, first of all...she is an attractive lady, and what she is wearing is sexy(probably too sexy for working in the bank...maybe she has a jacket on, damn air conditioning is too cold sometimes u know...i dunno..lmao) but she looks great in it...so what!!! so what i think.....ummmmmmmmmm....... the ladies who are calling her trashy, fat..blah blah blah...just plain jealousy...and for the men, sorry, but u weren't her type!!lmfao :-p oh sorry for my crappy ass grammar, guess i just don't give a shit!!! lol :-p
jason 06/04/2010 7:47:52 PM

Good work, V Voice. Another brilliant story that gets right to the heart of yet another of the evil right-wing injustices of the world. I would expect nothing else from an academic journal such as yours. And kudos on surviving the subterfuge and hateful attacks by the terrible conservatives, while you bravely maintain financial ballast by selling ads for underage, Korean sex-slaves. On behalf of violent sexual predators everywhere, I salute your steadfast resolve to keep the moral high ground. Hypocrites.
pat 06/04/2010 6:38:03 PM

I would not have said a word.
Bill 06/04/2010 6:33:04 PM

It's obvious she's trying to shop herself for fame. Nothing more. Nothing less. And the media is playing right along. She'll have a "reality tv" show before this is all said and done. Maybe even a Playboy spread.
Janice Alper 06/04/2010 6:09:47 PM

WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE ALL OF YOU UNEDUCATED PEOPLE? this disgusting woman has come to the top of the headlines BECAUSE OF HER LOOKS, not because of the story. because clearly citibank hasnt presented the success of the man who was the manager. OH AND SHE WAS FIRED BY A WOMAN AT THE BRANCH SHE WAS TRANSFERRED TO.... our society is sick, letting her draw all of this attention over real issues in teh world. WHO CARES ABOUT THIS HORRIFIC WOMAN? you are all vile people if you believe her story.
Patty 06/04/2010 5:54:02 PM

I feel so sorry for Ms. Lorenzana. She's a lovely girl, dresses just fine and very sexy. Would that be her fault? She has physical assets many women would love to have. As for those male pigs, they're simply pigs. They have ulterior motives only pigs would know. Hope and pray Ms. Lorenza will be dealt with fairly in the courts and will prevail in the case.
cap 06/04/2010 5:47:12 PM

Shall we shag now, or shall we shag later? How do you like to do it? Do you like to wash up first? You know, top and tails... whore's bath? Personally, before I'm on the job, I like to give my undercarriage a bit of a 'how's your father'!
t_lhrh 06/04/2010 5:29:06 PM

Frankly, I feel she was probably treated that way due to a constellation of factors. 1) Her accent. She probably sounded to her bosses like she could be easy 'immigrant' pickings/a good 'exotic' lay, and when she gamefully resisted, the guys turned on her. 2) The fratty environment probably fostered by these immature men. If you have one immature man, it's fine. The mature working people around him set the tone. His frattiness is kept in check. But when you get three or four together, and when one has some type of power, it then tends to percolate throughout the office environment, and the frattiness is then unfortunately reinforced and unchecked. I've seen it happen. 3) The other women. Maybe she was the best-looking of the bunch, and women can get pretty catty and start spreading rumors and isolating a woman that falls foul of their standards for whatever reason. I've also seen this happen. Coupled with maybe her tone-deafness to some proprieties--as evinced from her commentary on her five closets of designer clothes that are hard to build up on a $70,000 salary with a child in NYC--and you can see how she could isolate herself if there were stuck between two competing camps in the office that hated her for a variety of reasons. But this is all, of course, idle speculation. It's just my take, culled from personal experience, on what might've happened.
Greg 06/04/2010 5:01:50 PM

There is no way this woman is "too hot" to be anything because she really isn't "hot" at all. She is at best a 7, but in Midtown, if she rates a 6 she should be pretty pleased with that.
JORGE 06/04/2010 3:51:17 PM

No she's not. She is just so hot to be a single.
Syd 06/04/2010 3:29:46 PM

"It's not what you do-its the way that you do it" The photos show she is not attired for the duties for which she was employed. Imagine a jockey coming to work in a dinner jacket..... Lets get real.......
N Landis 06/04/2010 3:28:28 PM

This appears to be sexual harassment. It seems the two male managers were aroused by the ability to make her submit. No turtle necks? Turtle necks are sexy? No heels, unless doing manual labor? Constantly commenting on the tightness of this or that, making her feel uncomfortable. They obviously hired her for her beauty. A beautiful sales woman can bring in plenty of business, but they only wanted her for the hook, after that her work was given to someone else. In most other offices, this would have made the men competitive and thus do a better job to impress the office cutie. Citibank has lost a great motivator in firing her. I bet the other guys in the office, besides her sadistic bosses, are now less efficient and often late to work. It's funny that in the end Citibank used a female superior to fire her.
tony 06/04/2010 3:00:05 PM

I can see what this will become: women who think they're beautiful will side with her, guys generally won't because she was seeking attention and is opportunistic, women who aren't good looking will be envious. Hispanics/Latinos will see her as some sort of cause to rally around, and cheer her ethnicity for being one of them, and as another example of the disenfranchised. I just hope she doesn't set an example for yet another lawsuit, which inevitably she will. We always seem to want what we can't have. I think the crux of this whole story is we live in a litigious society. People are so eager to take someone to court and make their money the easy way.
Justin Gibson 06/04/2010 2:57:27 PM

She's NOT too hot for Citibank. In fact, that would be pretty normal for a woman to dress like that at work. I'd let her spank me really good and she oughtta punish me really hard.
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Chris 06/04/2010 2:30:41 PM

Th woman is either stupid or clearly seeking attention with that kind of wardrobe. Probably both sprinkled with some unwarrented self-importance to boot. She has a beautiful body but the face doesn't stop traffic. It really depends what she's hiding under the blazers as well. If it's the low cut tops above, well... Then again, she did use a wrap dress for the job interview, knows she was hired because of her looks, and aknowledges that she has no knowledge of the area she's in. I don't know why she's either scandalized or surprised. Never mentioning that the navy coat seems way too casual for this kind of business. Then, there's a difference between fitted clothing or second-skin closing. The pencil skirts she wears are clearly on the second category. It's like she's not wearing nothing at all. On top of that, and that really amuses me, is that even though she's someone who has a clear grasp of clothes, she doesn't understand that there are different body types and that some clothes are appropriate for some while others aren't. Consider two skinny women. If one is A cup woman in a low cut top she won't get attention from men if there's a D cup one with a standard top standing next to her. And yet the former is wearing a skimpy top while the latter is wearing a conservative top. On the other hand, men should really learn to stop behaving like boys every time they see a beautiful woman. It's also true that people (not just men, women can be as vicious) usually do some stupid crap when they feel threatened, either on power or their self-confidence. But it's Citybank, a multinational enterprise. I doubt they'd fall into such a stupid reason to fire her. Since she's clearly under graduated. Note: Everyone that says she could be a model clearly have no idea what they're taking about. 5'6" is not decent enough at all to win more than the 70,000$/year, if she can even pass the selection by being so short. Also she's clearly not a size 4 either.
Elizabeth 06/04/2010 2:29:36 PM

While some of the comments she has made seem to be somewhat childish (and frankly, beside the point) we need to remember what she chooses to spend her money on (and how much she pays for it) isn't really the issue. I believe the issue is whether or not her employers acted appropriately for individuals in their position, and if she was discriminated against. You have to read through the "he said/she said" business to get to the core issue.
L. Martinez 06/04/2010 2:28:49 PM

Can't there be such a thing as referring to women without talking about appearances? I only skimmed through the article so far. When a person is in any workplace and is supposed to be working and doing his or her job right, then trying to make the social atmosphere into one of stereotypical sensuality-inherent behavior is just out-of-place. The woman should seek a model's job if it means so much to her to overdo her "feminine" attire and appearances.And yes she seems unhealthily obsessed with being feminine and attractive. As a side issue, the woman may be cleverly trying to get a model's job by creating such a stir in the places where she works so that she gets publicity, and a contract with some modeling agency. However this issue is not new and sadly there will always be issues like these. You would think that the Voice would focus on women whom really matter in the world. Women whom have become scientists and engineers and surgeons and have gone into professions in which the number of women are disproportionately low. And this would mean focusing on minority women whom have gone into such occupations because it has been said that there are few women architechts, CEOs, Information Technology professionals, etc, because women,( just as they are physically weaker than men) do not have as strong an aptitude for academically-difficult subjects and just as it has been said that intellect and cognitive weakness is a matter of gender it has been said that academic achievement is also disproportionate lower among blacks and particularly Hispanics since Hispanics have the highest school drop-out rate. Ms Lorenzana represents the worst of both worlds. Anyone whom admires her or thinks that her appearance is important has to get a life and go back to school.
Colt 06/04/2010 2:26:13 PM

Amazing that if a guy doesn't think she is hot, but more like an opportunistic skank...he is a fag. If a woman thinks the same...she is envious. Only brainless twits could come up with that type of analogy. I do not think she is that damn good looking. If she is only 5'6", then ya'll better be looking at her body structure because she has a big butt and hips for that height. She is the kind of female that makes it bad for truly pretty women who are also hard, dedicated workers. How disgusting of a mother if she complains about not being able to buy Christmas presents for her son while at the same time bragging about all her designer clothes. This woman's priorities and mind set are truly screwed up. I don't much care for Citi Bank, but I hope they don't have to give her one red cent. The whole story smacks of a female looking for a lawsuit from the get-go. Somehow, I just don't think SHE is a victim here.
The Globalizer 06/04/2010 1:34:43 PM

Yep, she's hot. Even if she loses the case, she wins.
ricardosantino 06/04/2010 1:29:52 PM

Those idiots at citibank will get what they deserve. It's not your fault about what happened. You did everyhting that was asked of you. You have great character y buena suerte.
Jo 06/04/2010 1:15:27 PM

Let her fall back on the job she is dressing for, porn star or call girl. THAT is the issue.
wrangler003 06/04/2010 1:11:12 PM

She probably dressed like a tramp to get promoted or a good raise. Any case, she is wrong to dress like that at work. Hope she fails at her 15 mins and her bid to steal money from her employer for this scam. She probably want's more brest implant's and cannot afford anymore so she sues to get her money. She looks like she is a shady character. Wonder if she works nights on the side. She looks like it.
wrangerl003 06/04/2010 1:04:27 PM

She dresses like a prostitute and this is not work appropriate. She is just one of those women that have to get attention anyway they can. She choose to let it hang out at work. She should have been fired. DRESS CODES. I am sure the other women were sick of having to look at her breast.
Entrepreneur 06/04/2010 1:04:21 PM

Truly this women is desirable by some men, and can also be viewed as wearing unappropriate attire as seen on the article. However a person garments should not be upheld as work ethic. In the society we live in, hard work- defines a persons character and not their sexual origin and or body appearance. I hope you win =0
tony 06/04/2010 12:52:03 PM

Snow flake....I'm with you. There's something foul here, and I'll have to echo the term I'm seeing a lot, gold digger. However it's a scandal, involving an attractive woman who just happened to be willing to model some 'casual' wear, really plays down the sexpot image, eh? Someone commenting suggested she may have worn some of what she modeled for the story to work. LMFAO!! I think it's fair to conclude she wants all the world to see how stunning and desirable she is, yet unless you're a potential suitor you should just eliminate those dirty thoughts from your mind and focus only on how smart and talented she is. She's in the midst of a big scandal that's attracting some attention, honey your 15 mins. have started. I don't suspect the public will be on your side in this one. Frankly I'm very disappointed in the voice for running this. Just think if you had devoted that much space to a story on alternative energy or food banks that are helping others in the Gulf region in light of this oil spill how much actual good you'd have done. Then again this is the U.S., and those things aren't as interesting I suppose. No, we love scandals involving hot, scantily clad babes better.
rich hanes 06/04/2010 12:43:12 PM

It only becomes trashy and distasteful for those who cannot carry the dress (or lack of it). So this girl is far from being trashy. and those who disagree with me are either envious women or gay men.
Curlydomjlo 06/04/2010 12:06:37 PM

"And I'm not talking trashy, you know, like in the Heights. I was raised very Latin, you know? We're feminine."
rich hanes 06/04/2010 11:55:48 AM

I think her male bosses thought she was 'easy' and tried to get her in bed but was unsuccessful. So what used to be deceived as an attractive look in the beginning became more and more like trashy and distasteful when they could get into her pants... typical male... but what can I say, I might do the same unknowingly when faced with the same situation. BUT she's not really that hot, but I would still try to sleep with her just the same.
Mika fuentes 06/04/2010 11:54:46 AM

To tell you that I understand completely what she went through wont even be close to what I felt when my friend send me this link, I had past through the same in a clinical office, and had to quit due to nothing related with work issues. I was a model with commercial work too. But once I understood what it meant to work in a clinic were not that many people has good looks like me,I got that I was in a cats cell...I never went back to modeling to meet the challenges of that kind of environment, the manager sample comments to what I was in my past or at the moment and the rest of the staff will follow with even more terrorizing offensive comments. Got into a really bad depression and had to move out of my apartment together with my son because I could not make my end needs; into a baseman i past through the darkest moments of my life, but my family is still there holding me up, I'm still looking for work in this so hard economy and going for interviews from babysitting to hosting restaurants and nothing has apparently work...my future and that of my son is to fragile, if I knew what we had to go through I would have never resign form my last job. I will like to meet with your attorney or have some advice as to how to proceed in my situation.
Josie 06/04/2010 11:54:02 AM

It's hard to know what to believe. I don't like what I heard about the conduct of her coworkers, but every workplace has a right to maintain certain standards with a dress code. You find out exactly what the dress code is early on. If you want to keep your job, you will fit into the culture. She is attractive, but she is not TOO hot or too beautiful, except in her own mind. She doesn't have natural breasts, so her comment about everything being "genetic" is certainly not true. Even with a body like hers shown off in provocative clothing, I can't imagine anyone being half as obsessed with her appearance as she is. And people, $70K is not a lot of money in NYC at all. It's less than $1000 a week take home pay, in a city where it's not uncommon to pay $2000 or more rent for a two bedroom apartment. Nobody can afford a designer wardrobe on that kind of salary. A few things, maybe. She sounds like someone who is obsessed with appearances and status. And very shallow. I wish her luck proving her case. She should never have signed anything, so she is missing a few brain cells.
Johanne 06/04/2010 11:52:51 AM

This woman is obviously very beautiful but if the pictures posted here are pictures of what she wore to work in a bank then they are, without a doubt, in appropriate work/office/business attire. Half of one's breasts showing is not work clothing, that's for clubbing or dating. Anyone with any sense knows that. However, it is true that these days banks, which used to be the home of the most conservative work attire are now closer to strip bar attire in a lot of cases. These days (in Montreal) most tellers are showing a LOT of cleavage, wearing tight pants or skirts and very high heels. My hat's off to anyone who wears such high heels in a job where you stand all day but, seriously, do you think you're going to be taken seriously? There's nothing saying a woman shouldn't be as sexy as she wants to be but if she's trying to convey an image of professionalism then cleavage, spike heels and tight pants/skirts, won't do it.
Yolanda 06/04/2010 11:52:32 AM

When I was a young woman I drew so much male attention that I shaved my hair into a mohawk and dressed in sloppy clothes to put some of them off. It helped a lot. I got all that attention wearing loose tees and jeans with no makeup! Women should not be treated this way just because men have desire. Men need to learn to control themselves and behave respectfully. Enough men demonstrate this maturity at all ages to prove it is possible. I am grateful every day for getting older and heavier and finally being treated more as a person than a conquest.
dana 06/04/2010 10:43:12 AM

There are some discepancies in the article I don't understand. Maybe the writer and editor should rethink this piece: It repeatedly says she's tall; 5'6" is not tall, average at best. Just because one buys designer clothes and spends alot of money, does not mean one looks good, or is dressed appropriately for work. She also raises her ethnicity to the cause of dressing as she does. Lorenzana is Italian as well as Peurto Rican, don't Italian women or any other women, for that metter, do their best to look presentable and stylish? While at Citibank, she was not in the office much where the men were distracted by her. I personally don't know about banking, but if she wasn't in the office much of the time, where/how was she bringing in new clients from? If she wasn't qualified to open checking accounts or make loans for clients, how can she have the same title as her male co-workers who are closing the deal for her? Was she distracting to the business clients, or did Citibank not care if she did distract them because that was rather the point.
SnowFlake 06/04/2010 10:35:33 AM

@cyberphonics...she said she likes HIGH END designer clothing. I know Louis Vuitton bags run about $1000 (my sister has 2). Lacoste shirts for her son are $75+. Even if she lived somewhere where the rent and car insurance were cheaper, pissing away a few hundred on idiot designer clothing while making $70k still doesn't cut it. In fact, it's what makes me confirm my belief that she's a gold digger looking for a meal ticket. Only shallow, materialistic fools making her salary (which she claims and hasn't been proven) would piss away money on nonsense like this. And I bet her kid goes to one of NYC's finest public schools LOL.
Gardo 06/04/2010 10:21:53 AM

Que morenaza...!!!
Cyberphonics 06/04/2010 10:13:09 AM

Oh. Just pointing it out to the people who may not have noticed, the photos are here, not just the ones in the article... http://www.villagevoice.com/slideshow/too-hot-for-citibank--30014985/
Tony 06/04/2010 10:05:52 AM

There are many contradictions to this story. Five closets of designer clothes, yet you can't afford to give gifts at Christmas, to your son? Despite everything else, that alone made me mad. She mentions her Puerto Rican pride, and "PR women here put down the flag". LOL, yeah, just like they will be on Fifth Ave. this weekend. Give me a break. If you have the skills, love the culutre (where your'e more accepted for your femininity), and everything else, than maybe Puerto Rico would better serve your needs. That seems logical. Of course I'll be labeled a "hater" for saying such a thing. Now in her defense I think some manager at Citibank was rebuffed, but he didn't show her a picture of his ding-a-ling and probably had the sense to be more subtle, but his ego was probably bruised. So being a spoiled rich f**k he had to make her life difficult. That's where the defense ends for her. There are a lot of homely women who wouldn't get hired because they're not pretty enough. Can they sue because they've been cursed genetically and have been treated unfairly? Village Voice, you gave us a great expose on the NYPD for two issues, now you print this garbage? Did you do this story for 10% of whatever windfall she'll get from this publicity? I have maybe 5 out of 100 sympathy points for this woman. Things didn't work to your liking, you're "cursed", now pull your boots up by the straps and get on with it.
jim 06/04/2010 9:37:13 AM

look on the inside of a person not on what she is wearing she has a heart and brain
cyberphonics 06/04/2010 9:35:23 AM

I almost forgot we were talking about New York lol I was about to say to Snowflake, "On what planet would someone say a person ONLY makes $70k/year? WOULD that I made that much..." Most of the people I know support themselves and their children on half that and still manage to pick up some luxury clothes and accessories from time to time.
cyberphonics 06/04/2010 9:30:55 AM

... and for the record, I second that she looks like a lot of women I see working in banks and offices in the city. I honestly can't say that I find anything she has on even halfway scandalous. For the women who said they did, I have to ask, what in the world do you wear to work, pumpkin costumes?
cyberphonics 06/04/2010 9:24:53 AM

I think many are missing the point. The question on the table is whether or not Citibank handled the situation appropriately. The fact that most of the people commenting here can't seem to remove themselves from the "men have a peepee and women have a gina" aspect of the story is an indication in and of itself how foolish even intelligent adults can be and react over gender. The fact remains that there is a wrong way and a right way to address workplace concerns. Being a man is not an excuse for being unprofessional about the way you approach an employee. You can distract yourself from the issue by scribbling nonsense like "Men are hardwired to respond involuntarily to female sexuality and no amount of feminist shaming of men is going to ever change this", but keep in mind that this is the very same argument people try to use in defense of rape - that men are genetically predisposed to have no control over their dicks. I would like to think that all men worth the space they take up would be offended by the assertion that their brains are too small and character, too weak to be able to behave appropriately around women, especially in a professional environment. If you're not capable of something so simple, perhaps you shouldn't be in a professional environment to begin with (or in a position of power...) and that goes for anyone who finds themselves unable to behave accordingly. As for her attire, images shot by a photographer with her posing like a model is a poor way to show whether or not her clothing is appropriate in a work context. Just as she took pictures of the other tellers to compare their attire, she should have taken pictures of her own attire to have RELEVANT images. These images are decidedly attempting to make her look sexy, airbrushing and all, to bolster the point of the article that she is. And for those saying that they don't believe this could be true because she's not that attractive or because more attractive women than her have managed to go through life without this happening to them, neither point proves that it didn't or can't. That's like telling parents whose child was beaten to death in a gay bashing, "That TOTALLY didn't happen because I know gays who were NEVER bashed!" Do I believe that she probably felt a bit defiant about their demands? Sure, but how many of you have never fought back, even if only symbolically, when someone confronted you with a policy you felt was unfairly targeting you, leading to what you felt to be mistreatment? THAT'S the point of this issue - whether or not their demands were fair or biased. I'm a curvy woman myself and I'm well aware that on a woman with a less attractive or less ample figure, outfits would read completely differently. What makes one woman look elegant can make another look like a whore WITHOUT her help. I do keep that in mind when I choose what to wear. HOWEVER, there is only so much you can reasonably do short of coming to work looking like an unkempt hobo (which would just be a different kind of inappropriate) and let's be honest here. If someone finds you attractive, they're going to be distracted by you regardless. I worked in a store for a few years where I was the only female (another came later but she was considered ugly by the male staff) and regardless of how covered up I was, I would still get inappropriate comments, be harassed, be followed around or stared at when they should be doing their work. I typically wore long sleeve turtleneck sweaters, black flowy slacks, and black sneakers that looked sort of like loafers (I don't like heels unless it's a special occasion), I never wear makeup, and my hair is always just in a ponytail and bang. Yet because my assets are bountiful enough to speak for themselves, the fact that my clothing wasn't tight and that my skin was covered didn't deter the males who WANTED to be focused on my body because they found me attractive. Sometimes, the only way you can get a man to NOT be distracted by you once they've decided they like the way you look and they like fantasizing about you is to lop off your parts and mutilate your face and I'm sure we can all agree such an extreme shouldn't be the case. At some point, men just have to be mature and professional enough to exhibit self-control and either keep their comments to themselves or do a better job of separating their personal feelings from their position.
SnowFlake 06/04/2010 9:04:19 AM

Oh and one other thing...she claims that while in Puerto Rico, she ran a high school marathon w/no shoes. I'd love for some of her old classmates to validate that claim. Because I don't believe her.
herman 06/04/2010 9:00:17 AM

Hello, is Beatifull, yes, yes, i really beatifull.
SnowFlake 06/04/2010 8:55:20 AM

Ok, there are a few things in this story I don't get. She doesn't want to be judged on her appearance yet she has these pics of her taken. Her own attorney calls her a "babe". She admits that she likes high end clothing, such as Louis Vuitton and Hermes, yet only makes $70k which supports her and her son (and I'm guessing based upon her admitting that her baby's daddy wanted nothing to do w/her that he does NOT pay child support). How can she afford those things, including rent and a car (car insurance in this city is expensive) on $70k a year? There are too many things in this story which make me wonder if she's nothing more than a gold digger looking for her payout, which no doubt I'm sure she'll get a few bucks. And before anyone goes there w/the "you must be a jealous female". She's pretty, nothing special to look at. She has a decent body too. But she's ordinary looking. Brown hair, brown eyes. I'm trying to find what makes her so attractive. I can't see it. Guess it must be my jealous female side who doesn't see these things. And I'm never jealous over those who spit out children by some random guy.
Ron Dudley 06/04/2010 8:35:17 AM

The bank is stupid. They should have moved her into the loan or collections department. Nothing sells like a sexy woman (with brains), or wants to make a man pay money like a woman with her sex appeal. You have to put the right people in the right places. As a matter of fact, I wouldn''t mind working under her...Dudley Do Right.
Chuck Koory 06/04/2010 8:28:17 AM

Factually she is an attractive woman. In my opinion her dress is a bit over the top for a business environment but her bosses and male co-workers need to get their penises under control. My solution would have been to have a female manager talk to her about toning down the wardrobe and loosening up the tops, skirt and lowering the heels. When she becomes a spectacle she disrupts the office. I notice she says others dress the same and if that is the case they should have the "talk" too. If she failed to follow up on the "talk" then she should be fired but firing her for giving the men an erection is hardly fair.
so 06/04/2010 8:18:23 AM

As a female banker my opinion is that most of the clothes she is wearing in these pictures (the office pictures, not the "cheesecake" shots) are totally inappropriate for her position. No wonder she is not taken seriously. There is no doubt her supervisors handled the situation very badly and she will get some kind of settlement but they have a valid point. It really is not the issue of distraction of colleagues but more that you don't want your employee representative to look like "the nasty secretary" type from some cheesy cinemax movie which is how she dresses in my view. Successful women on Wall Street know that you need to dress such that you look like female while at the same time dressing professionally and not drawing attention to your "womanly" feature. Some of the examples cited are silly. Of course the same outfit can be inappropriate when worn by 2 different people; if she's wearing a serious suit but the pants are too tight and the blouse is too low cut it won't be appropriate.
Anthony 06/04/2010 8:15:30 AM

Also, you should see women in their early 20's, they dress much more provocative and they're insanely sexier. Honestly, I see it so often it doesn't even phase me anymore. Times, they are a changin'....wait a second, they already have! Either way, I really don't care about how this woman got fired for being sexy, nor do I give a shit about Citibank.
jon smith 06/04/2010 8:06:03 AM

hahaha, she is the opposite of hot
Anthony 06/04/2010 8:05:09 AM

With all do respect, she looks like a lot of women I see on a daily basis that work at those types of jobs.
David 06/04/2010 7:54:04 AM

Such a beautiful young woman. Why is it that so many attractive people are so insecure? The need to draw attention to themselves overwhelms any of their other many talents.
My opinion 06/04/2010 7:47:13 AM

I cannot believe that they say good-bye just for that reason. I think that that is called "Envy"
Former Coworker 06/04/2010 7:26:40 AM

To the writer of this story there are three sides to every story. Hers, the banks and then the truth. When Debrahlee worked for Bank of America she was known as Debrahlee Ligor. She was fired from this company for the same misconduct that Citibank also terminated her for. She was very irresponsible and craves the attention that you are all now giving her. There are soo many more important issues in this world than this individual who made many of her coworkers uncomfortable and they had to pick up her work load when she would arrive late or not come back from vacation because she got sick from a plastic surgery procedure.
Diana 06/04/2010 7:02:38 AM

If everything she is saying is what really happened then I hope she wins her law suit. BUT there are 3 sides to every story YOURS, THEIRS, and the TRUTH. I didnt see anything wrong with her outfits they did look work approriate. SHE IS A PRETTY WOMAN no doubt BUT there are more beautiful woman out there,non-the-less she was blessed. When I go into my bank I see the woman there dress more club attire then then her and they are still there and been there for years. Those men gauwking at her were the ones not work professionals. They should not be even getting distracted by a pretty woman. They needed to be doing their job and not staring. Hopefully in their law suit they find out the truth. The real one will win!
Vish943 06/04/2010 6:34:34 AM

I have no problem with women dressing like sluts, in fact I like it very much, as I love curvy women. But they shouldn't cry feminism and sexual harassment when men look and say things. Men are hardwired to respond involuntarily to female sexuality, it is simply natural, and no amount of feminist shaming of men is going to ever change this. Only the low-testosterone 'nice guy' type men (aka women's lapdogs who defend their feminist ways) don't have the natural reactions most men do. Also if women/feminists are so upset about "being objectified" then why do they dress so provocatively? Hmmm. Could it be to attract alpha males (bosses, highly paid men, etc) in the workplace, as well as get an easy ride (pun intended) in their job? Could it be to be able to sue when some poor beta male looks at her (because we know women don't dress this way for the lesser males). Also men should make more money that women - because women still expect men to pay for everything and assume all of the traditional obligations of protector/provider in order to gain access to sex and intimacy. The guys who don't have power, status or money (beta males) don't get any sex or attention from women.
jb 06/04/2010 6:34:07 AM

Thank you, Ms. Dwoskin, for bringing this important issue to light. As a woman who grew up in the sixties, issues of gender discrimination and gender inequities remain highly charged ones. You have let us hear Ms. Lorenzana's voice as a woman and as a proud Latina...both need to be heard and respected.
James 06/04/2010 5:31:07 AM

Interesting............... I must confess i was very intrigue with the story that i had to read it all and followed through to the pictures. Yes,Deb is HOT but again, should that be a reason to make life uncomfortable for her. As a matter of fact, i don't see anything wrong in her choice and style of dressing. I will conclude that either the guys tried to get into her pants and could to succeed or heard she is a descent girl and would not give in easily. So they decided to frustrate her.
Paul 06/04/2010 5:18:50 AM

The Village Voice article seems uncritical to me (perhaps the idea is that it's subtly tongue-in-cheek), and I find it odd that many comments here indicate that quite a few people are not very skeptical about Ms. Lorenzana's claims. The article is hardly a piece of investigative journalism--it reads more like a puff piece by Ms. Lorenzana's attorney. I'm skeptical about the majority of Ms. Lorenzana's claims. There are also odd inconsistencies in many of them, especially given her primary stance in the lawsuit.
E 06/04/2010 5:00:11 AM

I'm a woman and an attorney, and I have to say that other than the black pantsuit, what this woman is wearing and how she wears it is completely inappropriate for a professional work environment. Plus, comparing herself to the tellers is not appropriate--they're low wage employees and she's supposedly a professional. And, as a woman with a toned hour-glass figure I have to say that you do have a responsibility to "tone it down." Yes, someone without the figure can get away with something more revealing because it doesn't draw the same level of attention. As a professional (which this woman is aspiring to be) you fit into the professional atmosphere and leave your cultural back-ground behind. That said, I think the male managers at her office handled this completely wrong. Men telling women how to dress is a recipe for disaster. They should have handed this off to a woman HR person to start with.
NkKachunkaKa 06/04/2010 4:51:11 AM

Compared to a typical New York City woman around her age, including typical women working in New York City banks, Debrahlee is hardly too hot--she's more like a 5 out of 10 maybe--certainly no higher. The Voice should do a follow-up photo shoot with CitiBank employees throughout the city who really are knockouts. There were obviously other problems on the job, and apparently Debrahless has an out of control case of narcissism. I thought it was funny how the article mentioned that the guy who got her pregnant didn't want to have anything to do with her, her marriage quickly fell apart, etc.--I guess she was too good-looking for those guys, too, haha.
sandra 06/04/2010 2:29:27 AM

Fuckimg bullshit she is just an unqualified worker coming from i dont know which freaking medical school who got kicked out because she is too bad for Citibank . (Financial crisis? anyone?) No men would fire a girl because she is too hot. They would rather keep her around and F*** her occasionally!
harvey pearl 06/04/2010 2:15:19 AM

Citibank is not customer nor employee friendly. Instead of firing her they should have had a female manager sit down with her and explain it to her. I hope she collects from them and I am a stock holder.
sam hall 06/04/2010 1:45:26 AM

She has 5 closets full of clothes, but with a $70,000 start-ing salary, she "can't afford a new wardrobe"? A little looser would be ""too big"? Sounds like she was defiant about showing off "what God gave her". As a man,I resent the implication that having a curvy female in the building would prevent me from doing my job; I'm a profes-sional, too, and my long, lean wife is also hot, but she doesn't insist on her right to flaunt it everywhere she goes.
Porkov 06/04/2010 1:39:22 AM

Judging from some of the comments here, I'm coming to a new appreciation of conservative Islam. This woman definitely needs to be in an abaya and burqa. Citibank should adopt this dress code ASAP to save us from ourselves.
Brucef 06/04/2010 1:22:26 AM

If The Lady wore a comoflodge suit,with Guns in bouth hands she will be Hirerd,thats what makes news and Better Bankers Also !!! bf 5
Lucky Chic 06/04/2010 12:53:32 AM

Well, as long as Debrahlee's shopping, she may as well be getting her designer items at the LuckyChic.com sample sale... That being said, we're in the 21 century and she should be able to wear whatever she wants so long as it is professional and appropriate to the job; however office politics being what they are you can see how it might be difficult. The irony of the situation!
Ken from Philly the sixth borough 06/04/2010 12:17:38 AM

I read with interest the comment posted here by VV editor Tony Ortega who stated when they sent a photographer over for the story Lorenzana turned it into a fashion shoot. She is attractive, no doubt but I agree with the posters who said that with 5 closets full of clothes she should have heard of alterations. I also agree with the person who observed her pattern of new job, commendation a few months later, problems, new job, repeat. A couple of people here stated she was an escort. That is vicious if untrue. If this is true then she is a moron to sue because there is a chance this would come out. I have to take everyone's word for what goes on in the business world because I am a civil servant where there is no dress code thanks to the union.
pakhaxors.com 06/03/2010 11:03:04 PM

yes i think shes hot and well to do for a banking job ,, people should give her an another chance
RC 06/03/2010 10:23:23 PM

She is a reality TV star in the making.
Sherman 06/03/2010 9:56:23 PM

Yeah baby! When's the Playboy issue coming out.
Charles 06/03/2010 9:53:42 PM

Holy Crap Citibank management, what are you all - a bunch of 15-year olds? Never saw a pretty girl before? How can you call yourselves managers if you let trivial b.s. like this govern your day? If you cannot think act and work like a grown-up because babes make you nervous, perhaps you should have a paper route or mow lawns instead of running a bank. That would be a more appropriate job for the kind of mental adolescents you still are.
jim 06/03/2010 9:41:32 PM

sounds like the frat-boy porno-cocaine banker bosses wanted her to either be ugly or turn tricks in the back office--she's very attractive and obviously smart--maybe its the puerto rican thing--I'm from NYC and they've always had an attitude--maybe if she dealt coke in the office she'd have done better!
Leòn 06/03/2010 9:03:38 PM

Què anticuados banqueros
Jason Stables 06/03/2010 8:21:49 PM

To answer the question: NO Actually she reminds me of the octomom a little bit. And why is this is story anyway? I know people that have been fired for NO reason at all except the manager is a jerk or who knows --and guess what-- in many states that is perfectly legal. They don't have to have a reason.
The Equalizer 06/03/2010 7:57:37 PM

Suggestion....maybe if the male workers would stop brainwashing themselves with online porn, thier minds just might function a little bit clearer? Get a crip guys....90% of you don't even deserve this kind of women. When you go home tonite, stand in front of the mirror naked. Look yourselves over. Up & down....you'll get the idea. You're a walking heart attack waiting to happen.
tooSexy4myShirt 06/03/2010 7:39:46 PM

i worked with her at Citi...she dressed like a whore, came in late, would call out (claiming her son was sick meanwhile going to Vegas), was unprofessional, couldn't speak properly, couldn't acquire customers...her red sole heels were 4in platform peep toes that looked more like they belonged at at a strip club than at the office. She was more interested in her looks throughout the day than meeting her goals. btw...NOT wearing a bra while wearing a tight turtleneck in the middle of winter so everyone could admire her $15k boob job...yeah---um, that IS calling attention to yourself.
Gabrielle 06/03/2010 7:37:50 PM

That is one of the saddest things I've read in a while. It is another shot down for women, for men's idiotic reasoning. These men obviously are not capable of doing their own job, and are blaming it on a woman. What is she supposed to do? They don't even want her to wear turtlenecks? One of the least revealing shirts a woman can wear. It is completely unfair. Women already get paid less for being women, and now are being fired because men can't just do their job because a woman is around. I am furious!
Sarah 06/03/2010 7:36:58 PM

I think this woman has every right to sue and she should though it will be a hard case. She is definitely sexually attractive and I totally believe her story. I am an unusually attractive woman myself, and I can guarantee that at least from a personal perspective I know that sex means a lot psychologically and emotionally in the workplace and laws do not protect unusually good looking woman. This woman was probably a very hard, very intelligent worker wanting to go her way like everyone else but doesn't have enough protection.
Richard C. Mongler 06/03/2010 7:15:14 PM

I wanna deposit my wad of cash into her bank.
Charlotte 06/03/2010 7:06:39 PM

If the clothes shown in the above pictures is indicative of what she wears to work, I'd say they are NOT business attire. As a retired Senior Manager (female), I'd send any of my employees home to change.
Rachel crane 06/03/2010 6:37:28 PM

I love how people automatically think that only ugly fat women are outraged at how this woman shows up for work. I am a beautiful 38 year old Puerto Rican female in phenomenal shape. I'm also a mom like Debralee. I weigh 110 pounds and I'm 5'2 and I have a full enhanced C. I jog and do yoga regularly and I eat well. I'm toned and tight. I have beautiful body skin and a clear complexion, and I find this outrages. How can anyone not see right through her charade? She's not working at a strip club, or at hooters. She's working at a bank. I'm so tired of the innocent 'I can't help I'm sexy' babe in the woods attitude. Like everyone is stupid and doesn't know what she's trying to do. She's using the workplace as a shortcut, instead of working the hard way like everyone else. I'm sure she showed up for the interview dressed quite conservatively and started laying it on thick after she was hired. She repeatedly contradicts herself. On one hand she says she was fired because she wouldn't tone it down, but on the other hand says that she was told to wear high heels instead of flip flops and to blow dry her hair straight? c'mon! Then she complains that it's not HER fault that men look at her, yet she dresses like that to get male attention. How are men not going to look? I'm tired of women confusing empowerment with being slutty. It's not the same. They are two very different things. I have a huge problem with her saying that people should understand why she dresses slutty, because she's Puerto Rican. If it was a guy at work with tight pants and you could see the impression of his fat cock it would not be appropriate either and you better believe he'd be in the office being reprimanded. I think this is being dubbed as sex discrimination because men want to see these whores at work and don't want anyone standing in the way of a free all day look at a hot girl. If you want to look at girls like that, go to hooters. Work is not the appropriate place for it. No way sir. I would never dress like that for work, I would be ashamed. the gig is up you whores, everyone knows why you go to work dressed like that. You want to attract sexual behavior and response. otherwise why would you dress like that. if it's just dressing how come you never show up to work accidentally UNDER-dressed. So accidentally you just happened to put on a tight skin shirt with your boobs popping out. That was an accident right? not to attract sex? Give us a break.
JP 06/03/2010 6:36:51 PM

Welcome to America, honey...Where you will work your @$$ off, for a meager pay, with no respect, and nothing but people telling you to do better, while at the same time expecting you to pick up on your own. The "American Dream," isn't a handout. You have to put up with a lot of crap along the way. And you were making 70 grand a year! If you couldn't afford some work clothes from, say, Macy's or even Wal-Mart, then to me, it sounds like you were just being difficult and out to prove a point. You have a son to worry about, not to mention yourself. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and just do what you are asked!
Emma 06/03/2010 6:30:20 PM

All I have to say is: girl, please.
Joe White 06/03/2010 6:22:10 PM

Good grief, this girl is too hot for planet Earth!!!
LM 06/03/2010 6:07:29 PM

wow this woman is the farthest thing from 'too hot' she got fired for bad work ethic and a bad case of narcissism.
James 06/03/2010 5:57:33 PM

I love her.!!! When you need a good job, without sexism or racism, come with us.!! Third World, last World but BETTER World.!! James from Lima Perú.
Terry J. 06/03/2010 5:54:34 PM

@ D. JONES: Feminists like you have screwed America. You want to turn banks into strip joints and marriages into money extraction machines for dykes. The bank refused you a loan so you want them to be a target for bimbos with fake boobs spilling out of a sprayed on dresses. Stick her in a modelling agency where she belongs and keep her the hell away from banks.
Nate 06/03/2010 5:20:50 PM

"# # Stan 06/02/2010 6:41:32 AM "Men are kind of drawn to her," says Tanisha Ritter, a friend and former colleague who also works as a banker and praises Lorenzana's work habits. "I've seen men turn into complete idiots around her. But it's not her fault that they act this way, and it shouldn't be her problem." The above comment doesn't pass the smell test. I've seen hundreds of women in offices who are hotter than this gal, and there are no problems. Sounds like she has an ax to grind." ---------------- You've seen hundreds of hotter women in offices? Yeah, right. Not even in your dreams. The whole story isn't here, of course, but to me it seems like her way to dress is OK - if she dressed at work like in these pictures - and the company is at fault. Obviously she is very attractive, but there is nothing inappropriate about the way she dresses and good looks are not a good enough reason to fire someone. Maybe there is more to the story?
TJ 06/03/2010 5:20:37 PM

I'd definitely hire here so I could sexually harass her as well!
Dude 06/03/2010 5:14:27 PM

She's hot!
B. Smith 06/03/2010 5:14:16 PM

It is not about "her body should not be a problem for her" as one person said. It is about her body being a problem for the bank. A Sumo Wrestler would be the wrong choice as a dental nurse. A ballerina the wrong choice as a coal miner. A Penthouse model oozing sex is wrong for a bank. Live with it.
D. JONES 06/03/2010 4:38:12 PM

America does not know how to raise men. They know how to raise little boys that even into their 60's are still driven by their penises. Look gentlemen, you're gonna die like everybody else. Why not try to leave a legacy that speaks about something other than you letting your c**k make every decision throughout your entire life. It's not cute, it's not cool, it's just plain pathetic
d. jones 06/03/2010 4:33:14 PM

This sounds like something out of a middle eastern country, where the women have to wear burkas, because they might turn the men on. What makes the managers weaslier than ever, is that they hired her because of her looks, she brings in clients because of her looks, they steal her clients, and then criticize the method in which they get commissions for not doing a frickin' thing! Pathetic morons!!
samara 06/03/2010 4:13:10 PM

It is sad to note that this situation has not changed in the 35 years since I was young, blue eyed, blond and well put together. It hasn't changed in the 20 years since my god daughter who is beautiful and was blessed with a great figure but chose to have a breast reduction because of the behaviour of men and famile coworkers. The sad news for Lorenzana is that to survive in a competitive work environment she will either have to wear less fitting, more desceet outfits or gain weight. I got much better treatment and respect after I gained some weight. It isn't fair but it is the way the world is. Compare her male coworkers inability to avoide destractions unless she wore less flattering clothes with those in some moslem communities who insist that women wear full covering burkas because the men of their culture cannot control them selves and might be overcome with desire if they saw part of her body. Both situations make the male of the species sound pathetic with no will control.
Very Funny 06/03/2010 4:11:38 PM

Inaccessible? HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA! Now how do you think she amassed a closet full of designer clothes on a max salary of $70k/year? Not by being "inaccessible," I can assure you.
D 06/03/2010 4:09:34 PM

You have GOT to be kidding me. This isn't even a story - it's an ego boost for someone who clearly does not need one. Who cares about how beautiful she thinks she is? Even better - who gives a cr*p what's in her closet? I really hope she doesn't turn into a story that we have to look at or hear about every flippin' day. Get a life and quit looking in the mirror cupcake.
L 06/03/2010 4:09:07 PM

Its amazing how obsessed with looks we all are. I mean check out all these comments - so much passion - so do we really think we're all beyond this behavior she outlines that given this obsession in every aspect of American life this striking woman could make it in the work place - please. I went through what she did, not willing to take pictures like she did but that's my choice. Of course she was adversly affected because of her looks. Why are we all so piped up about it? Precisely because of what no one wants to admit - this society is looks obsessed motivated by it completely - I mean read these comments. Its all true, and this "performance based" reason? Its code word for putting the only legal reason we can muster that passes credibility. God knows best.
Jake 06/03/2010 4:05:19 PM

What is this I dont even
Manny 06/03/2010 3:25:04 PM

Wow! That is indeed an unfortunate situation for Ms. Lorenzana. My wife also went through the same situation, however it was the jealous big women that voiced thier displeasure and soon made enough noise to get the managers to talk to my wife about it. It sounds like those Managers at Citibank are gay. We don't have any hot women like Deborahlee in our Office, I wish we did, we would not complain!
Andi 06/03/2010 3:21:26 PM

regardless of how the story goes down in court, i think miss lorenzana will have many, many job offers after this whole thing ends. and not only from the united states.
Lou Lou 06/03/2010 3:21:07 PM

Ha! No one who wants to be taken seriously strikes those kind of poses at the office. What makes it worse is she's striking these f*me postures for her attorney in a case claiming she was 'victimized'. Ridiculous. If she can't even help herself from posing like a sexed-up playmate in front of her attorney - in pictures designed to be used in COURT - I can only imagine what was going on at that branch. Here's a news flash - if you don't want your coworkers letching after you, then don't strike that ass-in-the air Jessica Rabbit pose every five minutes.
Lu Lu 06/03/2010 3:13:06 PM

Does anyone smell, "PUT OUT OR GET OUT?"
Lia 06/03/2010 3:07:47 PM

The pictures shown look more like a photo shoot than an example of what her work attire is. By the way i work in an office with men and i would never wear the types of clothes she is wearing to work. What doesn't make sense to me is that if she was a "distraction" wouldn't the head guys do all they can to keep her there and not get rid of her. Something about this story is fishy to me!
roy sanders 06/03/2010 3:02:22 PM

Debrahlee Lorenzana's looks, charisma, and talent should synergize into outstanding performance in the workplace. It appears from the montage of photos that firing her was a mistake. Owing to the photos, owing to the article, Citibank should contact her and beg her to return to work and apologize for firing her. Her looks are an asset, emnhancing her talent and attracting business.
melinda 06/03/2010 3:00:42 PM

girls don't be jealousof her, if she have a degree or not it doesnt matter, she was a good worker and yes shes is pretty with a nice body and i hope this doesnt happen to u or your family
Lu Lu 06/03/2010 2:46:29 PM

I see a lot of haters on here making stupid comments. I am a suburban housewife and get treated like poop by other sloppy women just because I am attractive. I am not nearly as attractive as this former Citibank employee and I am sure what happened to her is probably true to some extent. American women are the fattest they have ever been- drinking and eating corn syrup all day. Years ago women were more shapely like this woman, but today they are few and far between. As for the turtlenecks, well, she is stacked, but it is much better than looking at muffin tops sticking out of pants and skirts, isn't it? What's the difference? Also, do not assume that attractive people are not intelligent and that attractiveness is all they have to offer. Just because someone plays up their looks doesn't mean they have to do this only because their intelligence is lacking. I really don't think this woman is looking for 15 minutes of fame, if she wanted to be model she could have been one and would be one today. I am sure she has gotten enough attention and just wants to be taken seriously. One should have not to wear baggy clothes to keep others from making judgments. Also, did you ever stop and think that maybe some men at the work place flirted with her and if she was cold and aloof then she was judged? Just because a man doesn't come right and say, I'd like to go to bed with you, doesn't mean that is not what is on his mind. I am sure she was inaccessible and that was part of the problem.
juan 06/03/2010 2:25:26 PM

esta mujer es demasiado bella para estar en un banco, ella deberia ocupar las pasarelas, es una belleza
Brian 06/03/2010 2:25:12 PM

I think Lorenzana is getting a raw deal. There are many aspects of things that were mentioned that didn't sound right, from her being too distracting, to when she would bring in business, they would give that business to other employees who didn't have to lift a finger to get it. By the sounds of the praise, and the above and beyond standards of her previous employment, it sounds like an employee that would be welcomed in any company. As for her looks, YES she is a major babe, and I think the higher ups were actually using her to get those other clients because, based on her work talent, and not to mention she's hot, they may score a better chance at getting business. Being male myself there are a lot of bosses out there who try to use thier power to get what they want, and if they feel threatened in any way, they retaliate. Lastly there must be others who are involved who do not like her based on her looks, but also that she is an intelligent woman, two forms of jealousy. I say all the power to you Lorenzana, and don't hide yourself from the world, if you do the world will miss out on another life that God has sent upon this earth.
Baplun 06/03/2010 2:18:45 PM

She is a beautiful woman, if Citibank fired her for being too hot is a shame, perchance they made that desicion to not be tempted to look for a lover, oh maybe not to remember how ugly she is the wife who left in the house .
robin 06/03/2010 2:16:48 PM

omg...your a beautiful girl, i don't feel you crossed the line. Even when to tried to reform to want they wanted (like the flip flop situation)they wanted you in heels.No win situation. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. Anyways you'll probally find something better, though it doesn't feel so great now. Keep your head held high.Best wishes for you!!!
Sue 06/03/2010 2:05:56 PM

Well, she is beautiful and I was on her side until I started reading about her salary and how many closets full of designer clothes she bought for herself and her son - no sympathy for her now - she should have budgeted her money! The clincher for me was that she referred to herself as a "spic"! WOW! Can you imagine what would have happened if her managers had referred to her that way? How can you say out of one side of your mouth how much you're proud of your culture and then use that kind of word to describe your nationality (and the rest of your Latin family)? Then she complains about the bad treatment she received and the disrespect!? C'mon now. If you don't respect yourself, how can you expect anyone else to respect you? She lost my support for sure. She was stupid to sign a contract with a mandatory arbitration clause anyway! How does someone like that make $70K?? And why would a banker be moving freaking boxes? It's all a bit screwy if you ask me.
Bridget 06/03/2010 1:46:05 PM

There is a time and a place to wear clothes such as the ones she has on in the pictures above. You cannot expect to work in an office environment dressed like a hooker. Maybe that's what she was after - she WANTED to be harassed so she could file a lawsuit for sexual harassment and make her money that way.
scott 06/03/2010 1:38:08 PM

That's right! There ought to be a law! :-))
STAN LEE 06/03/2010 1:25:13 PM

YOU ARE JUST RIDICULOUS IN THINKING SHE IS 'A HEAD TURNER' ANY MORE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR HER COMPANY AND OTHERS...SHE IS JUST AN EGOTISTIC, NARCISSISTIC AIRHEAD AND HAS TO GET HER FACE OUT THERE....WHO WANTS TO SEE IT ...OBVIOUSLY SHE NEEDS ATTENTION OR SHE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING HERSELF IN THE NEWS. I THINK SHE IS FAT...NOT CURVY...AMAZING HOW SOME THINK THEY ARE MORE THAN THEY ARE....GET OVER IT...YOU ARE HEAVY LADY
ileana soto 06/03/2010 1:19:53 PM

I'm totally with you Lorenzana... Nosotras las Latinas sabemos como arreglarnos y como vestirnos! Ojala y puedas ganar ese juicio! Luces muy bien y no por eso deberias de ser juzgada! suerte!
Max Johnson 06/03/2010 1:17:19 PM

Judging by her looks, I think that she can always make a decent living as a stripper somewhere in Jersey.
james slater 06/03/2010 1:15:53 PM

Ha Ha. Now I get it. A well dressed, good looking woman so distracted the employees of Citicorp that they and their overpaid, totally incompetent leaders lost billions of shareholders money. Finally an explanation for their colossal stupidity. Maybe if they had been looking at their balance sheets, they wouldn't have sunk the bank. Maybe?
Peter Vom Tal 06/03/2010 1:09:03 PM

She to have good for www.art-beatitudes.com
PlainMiddleAgedWhiteGUY 06/03/2010 1:06:39 PM

Everybody here is dumb except her lawyer. I don’t get the assumption that because her bosses have a degree and she doesn’t they are smart. Did not people with fancy degrees take down the economy? And have not people with no degrees become America’s most successful innovators? Looks matter and matter a lot in all facets of life. People use what assets they have to make money, be it their brain or their gift of gab. Using ones looks is not any less ethical. She used her looks to make money for the bank but had to have other skills as looks alone will not do it. Her bosses should not have cared how she was making them money as long as it was legal (not that banks care about that). Her bosses are animals not men. Being a man is about control be it of your emotion, in bed, or when a good looking female is making you money. This woman had a winnable case she will now lose due to the photographs. It does not matter. Whatever led her to this point we now have a marketing campaign. It involves her upscale but reveling photographs, her comments like “spic flag” designed to cause controversy. Using sexual harassment and turning it upside down and the immigration debate, ingenious really
Louella 06/03/2010 12:56:43 PM

Please why do have these online or in the news at all. This is not news. Look at these other girls being sold off for marraige at 14 and then beaten if they don't stay (that is what I call being treated poorly as a women or girl). The news is getting crazy, what a bad example for young girls to see this gal that is wanting attention. Just because I am a female does not mean I am not jelous of this women I am a secure young gal. I usually don't comment on things like this but this women is an idiot, go to HR I did and the men who harresed me (you don't have to be attractive some men are just jerks) were written up and then when the behavior continued they were then terminated. And sorry but a big company like that is not going to tell you that you are terminated because you are too hot. Boy you really are stuck on yourself. What do you want to sue to by more clothes for your already full closet or is it just fame your seeking. Your a joke.
GG 06/03/2010 12:56:43 PM

You are not all that chiquita!
Karen 06/03/2010 12:51:38 PM

I believe her. I have seen so many nice looking young women become victims of street harassment, I have been a victim myself and I'm 50 years old. Men have said things to me like, "I like a woman with big legs" etc. What is she supposed to do, wear a burka? Men need to evolve and grow the heck up. Were these men so weak that they couldn't concentrate because she was there? Please. I hope she wins, especially since Citibank is a crap bank anyway. Also the man who fired her should go to jail for a long time, what a jerk. If some guy said a woman was too hot I'd tell him to take a cold shower and grow up. I mean teenage boys can't control themselves but grown men can, or at least I thought they could.
Anton 06/03/2010 12:50:40 PM

Si Lorenzana fuese hombre. ¿Hubiera ocurrido lo mismo?
Bill 06/03/2010 12:44:02 PM

Shame on citibank and these dufuses in the workplace that can't even be around a pretty woman. Good luck girl! And um, if you, um, want a date...
Anton 06/03/2010 12:42:26 PM

Pero, ¿qué está pasando con los hombres? ¿Es por comer mucho pollo? Ya me gustaría tener en mi trabajo muchas compañeras como Lorenzana. En fin, vivir para ver.
leo54304 06/03/2010 12:42:11 PM

From the article, it seemed the men had the problem and were sexist especially the idiot who showed her a photo of his penis!! (Note to idiot:showing a woman your penis won't get you a date). From personal experience working with attractive women who dressed nicely in office approved apparel I have lapses of focusing on work. Why? because its in my DNA to notice her but its up to me not to allow her to distract me. Basically her lawyer summed it up correctly in that a guy needs to act like an adult and not some horny teenager around a beautiful woman at work.
David 06/03/2010 12:41:32 PM

Seems to me it doesn't matter whether one considers her "hot or not," or if she was under-qualified for the job... Anyone who has taken some basic law classes or actually read their corporation's HR handbook upon hiring can pick out multiple instances of discrimination. Whether you're jealous or disdainful of her, to let that get in the way of equality in the workplace is petty at best.
Anna 06/03/2010 12:40:47 PM

Stanley, Just because you got stuffed into your locker as a teenager doesn't give you an excuse to shit talk a woman simply because she would never go to bed with the likes of some loser like you. You, cuntface, are a disgrace to humanity.
Brandon Bachman 06/03/2010 12:33:00 PM

Just because she's pretty and she wants to be pretty, she doesn't belong in a high-end position at a bank? I think it's saddening that these things happen on a semi-daily basis. Okay, so the woman looks hot. And she wants to look hot. No problem there. Can anyone legitimately tell me the pictures of her in this article distracted you by the story? Maybe it's media indoctrinate why she looks pretty. Maybe it's her "Spic" pride. But the woman is no joke. She wants people to respect her, and she doesn't want to follow the typical western male theology "If you're pretty, you're porn". I find it disheartening that people would treat her like this, and think all she's good for is sucking dick. That's not the case; Her mind is capable of much more, but nobody sees it because she looks beautiful. And I do hope that she receives MORE media attention because us males need to learn that pretty people aren't limited to sex. Period. And if you don't accept that, then get the hell out of my country and go elsewhere to a place where pretty woman are harassed on a daily basis without question. Written by a man.
Ax 06/03/2010 12:25:54 PM

Sadly pathetic. I wonder if these bankers consider themselves men? And it doesn't sound like the female employees there conducted themselves any better. Hopefully some male employer with a complete set or female employer feminine enough not to be threatened by an attractive employee will give this young lady a good job and guarantee a professional work environment.
greyhound girl 06/03/2010 12:24:59 PM

She is lovely, and in phenomenal shape. Reading the entire article, it's clear that she was needlessly harangued time and again and then targeted for termination once she tried to fight back. This is an entirely believable narrative. Can we know if it's all 100% true? No, but the workplace can be like this, especially if it's the male-dominated banking world. It sounds like the vast majority of commenters just want to take the opportunity to call her names, say she's not "hot," and comment on the "inappropriate" accompanying pictures of her wearing things she clearly never wore in the workplace. It's a story about her body, dummies.
Joy 06/03/2010 12:17:11 PM

Wow! I don't know exactly what to believe here but based upon the article I'm inclined to think that both parties had some part in this scenario. What I really wanted to comment on was Large Gerald's comment, "But the idiot men are the ones doing all the heavy lifting, so for the good of the company (read that as "for the good of me") I got rid of her." I don't know if he was using the phrase "heavy lifting" concretely or abstractly but if he meant it metaphorically there is absolutely no evidence that men outperform women in the workplace. It's sad that we live in a society where it's still acceptable to outwardly discriminate against women simply for being women, not that discrimination for any reason is acceptable. This was never more evident than in the many comments I heard surrounding Hillary Clinton's run for the presidency. People openly spoke of her gender in a way that they never would have spoke about President Obama's race (neither of which should ever be an issue). I may be hyper sensitive to this issue as a woman for a variety of reasons. I've spent my entire life competing in sports with and against men because my abilities measured up to theirs but it's still a struggle to gain acceptance every time I step onto the field or court even when I regularly outperform them. As well, in the workplace (I'm in academics working on my PhD) I'm often talked down to or ignored either because I'm attractive and/or look young for my age and experience. It's a constant battle to achieve respect simply because of the way I look but on the positive side, it's forced me to become even more competent and successful in all I do, whether or not it's recognized by chauvinists.
Tom Parsons 06/03/2010 12:12:41 PM

The top picture is a little racy for a bank here in San Diego but not worth getting riled up. Lorenzana says some other attire was less appropriate than hers. The incident when the manager wanted her to move boxes in high heels says foot fetish & voyeur; + being dangerous. This issue should have been handled more tactfully & easier; maybe by both parties?.
gich 06/03/2010 11:44:51 AM

From the wedding crashers They looked pretty good, are they real? Are they built for speed or comfort? What'd you do with them? Motorboat? You play the motorboat? [makes sputtering motorboat noise]
stanely bush 06/03/2010 11:43:41 AM

what do any of us know about what really went on in the branch? this woman clearly wants attention and it is evident by the pictures if she is posting. i believe she was fired based on performance. although if her boss told her that she was dressed inappropriately, it was for good reason. look at this slutty piece of trash. look at these pictures! anyone who has an education would realize she is clearly trying to make money off a law suit. has she ever thought about the family of these people? not to mention the manager has been with this company for over 10 years and this is THE FIRST time anyone has posted anything of this sort about him. SHE IS A SLANDEROUS WHORE trying to get a name for herself. I go to this branch all the time and he has been nothing but professional and helpful. Fuck this heinous woman, shes a disgrace to the usa. DRESS CODE, ull never get a job again because of this.
Anna 06/03/2010 11:43:14 AM

Sure is jealous fatty in here today, you sorry ass c*nts.
Justin Wein 06/03/2010 11:40:11 AM

DOES THIS WOMAN NOT REALIZE SHE IS AND HAS BECOME A JOKE. trashy woman not thinking about how the lies she is telling can affect other people. go home to where u belong from u spanish bitch. i hope this article gets a her job in the porn industry because thats where she belongs.
Carlos 06/03/2010 11:39:32 AM

Not really dwelling into the discrimination, injustice, possible scam issues, etc. of this. At the risk of sounding shallow, I'm betting that a Playboy pictorial is just around the corner.
andrea 06/03/2010 11:37:36 AM

She is really pretty. The title of this article was not her doing. It was that of the author. I've heard of other instances where this has taken place and think that there should have been an investigation and subsequent disciplinary action taken against the guys for having no dick control. I wonder if they had no control because they are dicks? Anyway, I hope she wins!
razldazl 06/03/2010 11:36:26 AM

you are all missing the point. you are continuing with the same harassment which citigroup is accused of...you keep judging her physically. she has had enough of that. treat her like a human being...and yes, the corporation CAN and DOES systematically harass and fire people for any ridiculous reason it wants. whether or not you think she is a babe is not at question here. your shallowness is disturbing. @ bob towner...thanks for adding a decent comment..
Linda Stern 06/03/2010 11:27:25 AM

are u fucking kidding me? this woman clearly should never have been a banker in the first place. after being terminated and transferred four times within bank of america and then twice at citibank, clearly shes a dumb bitch and not meant to be successful because she clearly can't do the job. this woman is using her appearance to ruin business for people who fired her based off performance. she is a piece of trash and any educated person would realize that she is doing this for publicity to better herself and at the cost of other successful business people.
Kay Jones 06/03/2010 11:24:20 AM

What a crock! There is no mention of a college degree among her qualifications. She was hired because she is eye candy and she knows it. She should consider herself fortunate to have become a "banker" on nothing more than "spic pride". Others (men and women) sacrifice time and money to attend institutions of higher learning to gain credibility for their chosen professions. As for the complaint that she had to wear a dress too tight because the next size up was too large; why the heck do you think they have tailors and seamstresses. If you can afford Armani and if you are intelligent enough to be a banker, surely you have enough sense to get your clothes altered. I know plenty of "hot", educated bankers that are thriving in their profession.
Dean 06/03/2010 11:21:59 AM

I just wonder what she wore to the interview on the day they hired her? Was it the same style of attire she started wearing later in her career when the negative commments started flying???
buzmeg 06/03/2010 11:16:44 AM

Though I'm not defending or accusing anyone, there are two sides to every story and as of this moment I've heard only one side. I'd be willing to make wager that there is likely something that we are not privy to that may put this into it's proper perspective.
beth 06/03/2010 11:14:19 AM

oh my gosh! you are all missing the point!!! the corporation totally harassed her over and over again. the fact that all of you missed this just shows how brainwashed you all are. it's pathetic. you are all reacting disgustingly. this is so pathetic and typical of corporations. this woman is beautiful and smart and deserves, like all of us, to be treated with respect. they should have appreciated that she brought them so much business, instead of moving her clients to other people. i cannot understand this organized deviant behavior. scoundrels...
sharon 06/03/2010 11:06:58 AM

Okay, i'm now seeing her pics close up. This chick is not all that. From the pics on other news outlets, from a distance she looked alright. She just trying to get free exposure in the hopes someone will think she is pretty enough to pay her for her pics. Remember the frivolous lawsuit that NY 1 news reporter lost after evidence showed she was fired because she wasn't performing her duties, not because of sexual harassment?
liselotte poss 06/03/2010 11:03:21 AM

Hi, I'm all for using what God gave me, only Ms. Lorenzana could have used common sense and covered a little more of her cleavage with nice suit jackets or sweaters, etc...then the wives and girlfriends, and other female associates, etc would not have bullied the male management into firing Ms. Lorenzana.
Tavia Dixon 06/03/2010 10:58:20 AM

OK...if we can't dress like the women that we are (skirts, blouse, dresses etc....)then lets just dress like men...Would that satisfy the requirements of proper business attire? And all you women posting those ugly comments should be ashamed of yourselves.
charli 06/03/2010 10:56:40 AM

What's the world coming to? Ive never heard of such bs in my life.
omjen 06/03/2010 10:45:25 AM

It is very telling that Ms. Lorenzana keeps comparing herself to the tellers--she clearly doesn't get it. She was in a higher level position and it was perfectly appropriate for Citicorp to have higher expectations as to her professional attire. Also, what kind of lawyer allowed her to be photograped in the dresses she was photograped in for the article? They hardly help her case. No one can judge whether her attire was appropriate from the article, but the interview didn't impress me. It shows a lack of professionalism and understanding. Attractive women are successful in business everyday--there is no need to dress like a frump to be successful. Part of being successful is looking around and seeing how those above you dress--she should have been looking at the female executives or business leaders, not the tellers.
Rose 06/03/2010 10:44:50 AM

I will agree that she is a good-looking but I see nothing HOT about her. I have seen better......
Ryan 06/03/2010 10:43:17 AM

She is attractive, but I don't think she is "too hot" to hold a job. There are lots of girls that are attractive that have good jobs. Her outfits seem okay to me - definitely not provocative. I see girls who dress so trashy it's ridiculous. This girl looks professional but for the photos - who knows... maybe she chose the more conservative outfits she owns for the pics? I have a friend who works at PNC Bank that got in trouble for the same thing. She is thin, but is just okay looking. This girl blows my friend out of the water. Still - I saw some of the things she wore - it wasn't revealing, but not really professional. She looked like she was about to go out instead of going to work. She looked really fashionable and trendy, but I wouldn't say it was work attire. After they confronted her a couple times, she eventually found the right wardrobe. According to this article, the way it sounds to me is that they just didn't like her - for whatever reason. Maybe they didn't think she was that intelligent or as good at her job so they commented on just about everything she did. That would be my guess. It sounds like she was just picked on all the time - which can be extremely frustrating. Typically when that happens, the employee hasn't done anything wrong, but just because they are not liked - then everything they do starts to build. I highly doubt she got fired because of her attire. I bet they just didn't like her.
Suzy 06/03/2010 10:22:35 AM

she looks like an ugly B**c. I can't stand stuck on themselves women they are the biggest snobbiest b--ches. Usually nobody can even stand being a douche like that anyway. Good for citi firing a ho dressing winch. and just another BIMBO Sueing a money hungry twat, just as bad as the woman sueing GOOGLE because she claimed the walk way map they provided her with was an unsafe area... Maybe the two of them should meet up.... I HOPE CITI sues this twat, and google sues the other twat.
john 06/03/2010 10:14:49 AM

Nothing to write home about.
Bob Towner 06/03/2010 9:57:27 AM

This is awful and stupid. I am a 32 year old heterosexual male, indeed based on those pictures Lorenzana I would say is very attractive - but give me a break!!!! To her male managers: ACT LIKE A PROFESSIONAL! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!? These managers 1) Sexually harrassed 2) Created a hostile work environment 3) retaliated aganist her - are all insular idiots. They have never learned proper social skills, not to mention proper human decency, and most likely are used to being treated like hot sh!t because of their position. I believe she can also sue the individual perpetrators in civil court, no matter what Citibank made her sign. I hope she does. Citibank is not only an awful large bank, apparently its a really stupid place to work at too.
G 06/03/2010 9:50:22 AM

Truth of the matter is that there is an obvious pattern by her bosses. They took it upon themselves to play fashion police. Her suits looked great and so does she. If she gets results then shut up and let her do her job. Seems to me that the banking industry has a lot of bigger problems to deal with.
Nancy 06/03/2010 9:48:25 AM

So out of the 3 outfits, I don't think the clothes were inappropriate, although I do think the low cut shirt is inappropriate. I also think the lawyer had a great time taking the pics!!!
TA 06/03/2010 9:47:28 AM

You claim you are DISCRIMINATED against soooo you hire a PR agent and a LAWYER ! What's next a leaked SEX TAPE , YOU TELL STORIES OF BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED AS A CHILD , WE SEE YOU ON A REALITY SHOW ...TRUST ME ...THOSE ARE PROFESSIONAL PICTURES OF A PROFESSIONAL .... AND I DON'T MEAN BANKER ! BE CAREFUL OF THIS FAME GAME ...SOMEONE FROM YOUR PAST WILL SOON POP UP AND DISCREDIT YOU TO HELL IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN YOUR CLOSET ....AND MOST PEEPS DO !
Large Gerald 06/03/2010 9:46:25 AM

It's possible she really was fired for being too hot. I once fired a woman for that reason. She did nothing wrong. Nothing at all. And still I fired her. Was it unfair to dump a good employee just because she made it too difficult for the idiot men in the office to concentrate? Sure it was. But the idiot men are the ones doing all the heavy lifting, so for the good of the company (read that as "for the good of me") I got rid of her. Of course I had to make up some phony excuse; "the economy" and a "downturn" blah blah blah, but in the end she was fired for being too hot. Sorry excuse for a chauvinist pig boss? Sure. So what? On the other hand, the girl in question is at the upper end of the smokin' meter, and she'll probably suck a few bucks out of Citigroup's quaking lawyers, who, like all spineless corporate weasel lawyers, will pay rather than risk "reverse political incorrectness." They'll want this to just go away. All they'd have to do is trot out some even hotter middle management chicks to show they don't hold hotness against anyone. But they won't because that would be an even more incorrect defense. They'll pay. She knows corporate culture. Haha. Smart girl.
tj 06/03/2010 9:40:59 AM

wow she thinks shes too hot wtf are you serious ? She looks cool but too hot? hardly !!! come to vegas and see truely gorgeous women working in all sorts of job fields AND they look better than this lady. Time to get off your high horse and hit the unemployment office or are u too hot for that too lmao miss me with this nonsence!
Kathy 06/03/2010 9:37:51 AM

Attractive...I suppose. Too Hot...I don't think so.
Random 06/03/2010 9:35:43 AM

She's hot! I'll tap dat ass anytime
Desiree 06/03/2010 9:35:17 AM

As a woman I will say that yes, she is hot. I am straight and would envy her butt and chest. That said, this story is ridiculous. A smart woman who is actually dealing with this type of situation would NOT go about it as she has, i.e. 26 provocative pictures and a news story making her out to be a vain shopaholic. How can this article possibly help her case? Moreover, she has no experience folks, she is a sales person with a pretty face and butt and gets male clients to hear her spiel but this is likely the extent of it. IF ANY of her bosses believed that she could properly and professionally parlay that ass and rack into multi million dollar sales BELIEVE YOU ME she would be on top of the freaking ladder. She can not, she has not, and now she never will. As for being an entrepreneur as mentioned by another blogger, you actually need vision which she clearly lacks or this article would not exist. Good luck Debralee.
Johnson 06/03/2010 9:31:25 AM

Pretty, yes. Dresses modestly, no. It's one thing to be beautiful and dress modestly. It's entirely another to be beautiful and dress in revealing clothes, as the photos suggest. I think it reveals the sluttyness within.
Dan 06/03/2010 9:30:44 AM

The business suit she is wearing-arranged by her attorney for her appearance in court - IS the appropriate attire for a bank workplace environment. She knows how her physical attributes effect upon men, and is frankly, exploiting that fact. You can't yell fire in a theatre, and you cant dress sexually suggestively in a bank, hospital, school or anywhere else for that matter unless your job is sex industry related or part of an advertising, marketing PR campaign....which I think she is engaged in by her self promoting via this "controversy." I am not a prude. Just know what is appropriate dress for a place like a bank.
DB 06/03/2010 9:23:50 AM

This is a joke. A valuable employee, i.e. experienced, ivy league grad, multiple stints at major name firms, would NOT go through this type of mess. It simply would not happen point blank end of story. This gal has zip experience, was fortunate to get to where she is based on T&A during the boom times. Now it comes down to actual experience and knowledge and for groups like Citi this is more important than ever. An expensive shopping habit and low salary, yes for the world of high finance $70K is what the admin folks are paid. Moreover, she clearly has ulterior motives, as why would you portray yourself as a "come and get it" while touting a discrimination claim? Good luck sweetie, perhaps the world of escorting is it for you now as you have burned a major bridge and NO firm in the right mind will touch you. And BTW, Citibank will surely get this case thrown out. Oh and thanks for F'ing it up for the rest of us gals who actually work hard to make it in this business.
gabe 06/03/2010 9:21:28 AM

I hope she wins! No, I don't like the title of the article but I honestly know what she's going through. If you're attractive and one of a handful of women working in a corporate environment, there's bound to be drama. I hate to say it, but welcome to corporate america debrahlee. I don't think her clothes are too provocative - they are business casual/trendy business. Unfortunately none of them were staunch corporate. I think she'd do better as an entreprenuer - maybe even a guest speaker that discusses the problems that women have in the work place. Too hot to work here would be a great title for a seminar on sexual harrassment. She has to realize that in america, if you look good and have a nice figure, no one really takes you seriously. It's sad but true. Anywho, I hope she wins her case!
Jonathan 06/03/2010 9:15:12 AM

You'll notice that the only negative comments about Debralee are from females...females who probably need to lose a few pounds and have a facelift. Ugly women will always be catty and jealous of prettier women...
Mark 06/03/2010 9:08:14 AM

There is no way she was fired for being "too hot". There is no way this gets beyond HR if any of what she claims is true. A couple other points to some of the posters here...if you have to claim that you are a white male and then rail against white males, you are most certainly not white - and in many instances, likely not even male. So, please quit trying to pretend. Also, and this is very important, I worked for many years for one of the Big 4 accounting firms and now work for a smaller finincial advisory services organization - I have also, in my 20 years working in the corporate world, worked for a small "mom and pop" and a mid-size provider - all in downtown Chicago. In each instance, harassment of any kind is not tolerated. She was fired for cause, not "hot-ness". She may need to look at things a little differently and realize that she was probably rewarded in her other jobs because of her beauty - notice the pattern. Always within three to six months at a new job, she recieves a merit award of some kind - then suddenly there is a harassment issue. She gives a bad name to women everywhere - she is lazy and a serial manipulator. Finally, I'm sorry, but there is no way you can have the five closets full of designer clothes for you and your son on less than $70k per year in the New York area. Knock-offs or not, there is something very wrong with all parts of this story.
Joe Sixpack 06/03/2010 9:07:27 AM

Somebody lied to this girl. She has big Ta-Ta's, and she might be good for an after-work-Friday-night-pick-up-one-night-stand type of deal. But she isn't "hot."
SpotOn 06/03/2010 9:07:04 AM

She is complete butterface. Nice body (and if you notice in the first picture she is attempting to exaggerate it by her stance - dated plenty of women to know when they are doing that - which is just fine and doesn't bother me in the least). But the face is a 5-6 at best. I work around some attractive women and treat them no differently than anyone else. She is definitely not too pretty to be a banker. My local Chase branch has hotter women, and that's not saying much. Then again, we guys in NYC are pretty spoiled.
Rohim Uddin 06/03/2010 9:00:05 AM

Congratulations. You deserve to be better. Try in modelling. You have great body, you can be great model. You are wasting time and money in banking. Try FTV.
Lucy Timmons 06/03/2010 8:52:56 AM

Give me a break she is ok but come on a bit big. But to hot she thinks a lot of herself. If she is so hot why is she not a supermodel makeing thousands. This stuff is getting to crazy our ecomony is down the drain and this is what is being reported. come on.
mcflygrrl 06/03/2010 8:52:28 AM

First off, she is pretty but not extremely attractive..second off her boobs are totally fake. Thirdly, there is no proof of these allegations, so she should lose. The fact that she has the adacity to make such claims just goes to show that her head along with her boobs need to be deflated because her ego is bigger than Obama's. What happened to good ole' modesty?
tracyfinland 06/03/2010 8:48:21 AM

Yet another reason never to hire a woman if you want your company to succeed. Manhood101.com
Jenna 06/03/2010 8:47:40 AM

She is very attractive. All the people on these comments saying "she's not that hot" are probably women, and are probably about a 4. That's the experience I have with women. Not hot women, trying to bring the hot ones down. Compare her to yourself and decide again if she's hot or not. Just sayin.
Crystal 06/03/2010 8:46:17 AM

I can relate to her story of acquiring unwanted attention, and she is a very gorgeous woman, but that should not have cost her a job. Her supervisors should have better control with their um counterparts,if need be they need to go home and take a cold shower.
Armand Castro 06/03/2010 8:44:14 AM

Well, she is doesn't have the prettiest face I have ever seen, but DUDE, she does have a bod. And I really doubt the "sexy" pictures shown in the article is the way she dressed at the bank. I am sure she wore more like the business suit that is shown. Hey she can't help it because she got a hot bod. If the male workers there have such ugly wives at home that they cannot concentrate at work because of her curves, that is not her fault.
Kevin Marshall 06/03/2010 8:41:07 AM

Yes, she is extremely hot. No, she is not too hot to be a banker. Based on this story, one can't determine who is right. However, it doesn't make sense to me that you have a closet full of designer clothes and then you say that you had a Christmas without presents. I am not saying this isn't true but it looks like Santa is living with you the entire year so Christmas without presents is not really that big of a deal.
Sharon 06/03/2010 8:37:25 AM

She would be a perfect contestant for Ocho Cinco's new reality show since he only wants caucasians and latina's. It's obvious that she didn't have the credentials needed if she could not order a debit card for a client (what REAL banker can't?)She knows and anyone with since reading this article that she was hired & fired for her looks. She should just keep it real with herself!!! She has used her physical attributes to move up the corporate ladder and now that gravy train has been derailed she wants to cry foul play. Young lady get real...You got pimped so learn from it and keep it moving!!! You ARE more than your looks so start acting like
Billie 06/03/2010 8:37:23 AM

She is really hot, I wish she worked in our office I'd be all over her, screwing her anywhere we could. It would be nice to get her skirt hiked up over her hips and pork her at the photocopier. She's wicked hot!
Rosa 06/03/2010 8:35:16 AM

No creo que haya sido despedida pork ta buena, creo que ella era demasiado facil. En este pais la mayoria de las mujeres que trabajan en la plataforma de los bancos son lindas y no he oido que a ninguna la boten por eso.
themanJC 06/03/2010 8:17:28 AM

Very hot woman , but not out of the ordinary . The city is FILLED with women who dress in the same manner as she did . I see no reason why she needed to change her style of dress , unless she was wearing micro-mini skirts and/or clubwear . Totally ridiculous on Citibank's part . I hope she wins and wins BIG . Sounds like a hard worker and seems like she has good work ethics . I wish her luck .
wolfkin 06/03/2010 8:15:28 AM

alright based on what I read and that was about the first two pages and skimming the rest. She's definitely an attractive woman. Most of the shots in this article are definitely inappropriate for a banker. That said I doubt she was wearing this type of clothing to work. If she was dressed like the shot the lawyer took then I don't see any room for complaint. She's still attractive but it's only reasonable to ask her to dress down so much. In terms of article bias I have to wonder why you would even bother to include the glamor shots. For instance both of the headline pictures are more inappropriate than not for working in a bank environment. You have plenty of shots of her wearing formal business attire why not lead with those and save the glamor for the end of the slideshow. Maybe then you wouldn't be accused of bias by your readers. Sure she's attractive enough to be a model but maybe (heaven forbid) she doesn't want to do that. I don't really have a way to say this that doesn't offend the modeling industry but good for her. Long story short I'm siding with the girl on this one. Maybe when she started her dress was too provocative (and that's a large maybe) but I have a hard time believing that she didn't adjust enough to be appropriate.
Nancy 06/03/2010 8:12:59 AM

Lets be honest about this. She is an attractive female... but not anything more than many women you see every day. She dresses unbecoming for a professional business woman. She wears clothes that are too low cut, too tight, too revealing. She can wear that type of clothes when she is NOT working, but when on the job she should dress as a business person, not a street hooker. That is why a lot of businesses provide uniforms to their workers, because of people like her who choose to dress in an unacceptable way for a work establishment.She enjoys making men stare at her and I am sure she is loving every minute. She probably hopes to win a court case with a large amt of money for her being fired. She was not fired because she is attractive, she was fired because she doesn't have the sense to dress like a normal person in an office setting.
Dan S 06/03/2010 8:09:13 AM

I was way too distracted by her pictures to read the article.
bill katz 06/03/2010 8:03:30 AM

she is attractive but to hot. i dont think so. it will be her personality that attracts the men
mable 06/03/2010 8:01:52 AM

She's not all that cute. She looks like any other ordinary hispanic woman. She's delusional
SGT Ted 06/03/2010 7:59:11 AM

She shouldn't be showing off her tits at the office. The equivalent would be some douche male wearing super tight pants to show off his shlong.
Joe 06/03/2010 7:56:02 AM

I love any pretty young woman who wears skirts and heels to work. That looks so good!!!
kevin 06/03/2010 7:52:34 AM

She's not all that, I have seen better. Bet she was fired for something else.
the joker 06/03/2010 7:50:57 AM

whatever. lies lies lies. shes not that pretty.
Eveline 06/03/2010 7:50:50 AM

Just because one is an attractive woman with curves and a passion for "fashion" does not mean it's ok to dress like a $10 whore when going to the office. Save that look for a street corner or a bar. One can look fashionable and sexy without having every "asset" hanging out of a sausage skin.
Tom 06/03/2010 7:39:27 AM

Have you ever seen someone with so many glamor shots of themselves in the office???
Craig 06/03/2010 7:37:35 AM

I will give her a job now if she wants one
Richard Guzzard 06/03/2010 7:32:45 AM

I would like to point out to all the pollsters who called this woman, amongst other things, a money grubbing, fat, spic, whore; that she repeatedly received commendations for her work performance from a variety of employers. I wonder how many of you could match that?
Virginia Laddeu 06/03/2010 7:21:25 AM

As one of the first 200 licensed women brokers in 1973, I recall how hard it was to establish ourselves as serious persons. The men could not call us "women"; "girls" or "ladies" were the terms for us. Now, the female executives wear short skirts, low-cut tops and "bedhead" hairdoes. Our struggles to be regarded as efficientequals has come to nothing, alas.
Jeanet 06/03/2010 7:13:04 AM

I am also Latinamerican, and that is not a professional attire, unless you are in the 'hunting' for a husband. Back, in my country of origin, I use to work in an insurance company, and I had a co-worker who will dress in a similar way, including miniskirts. Unfortunately, men see those women in a different way. One day one of the insurance agents invited my co-worker out, but to her surprise he wanted to take her to a disco, and the guy was married! I reminded her all the advice I gave her in reference to her attire. Now she dresses more conservative. Women should dress in a non-provocative way in their workplace; otherwise, men will react in ways that may upset us. We want to be respected, right? Well, let's start by respecting ourselves.
alidskin 06/03/2010 7:11:22 AM

I completely believe her. At my old job, I was the only female executive at the company (insurance office) and the President could only discuss my clothing with me. He would not discuss business. He would have lengthy conversations about our business with the other male executives though. I did not have low cut dresses, I did not wear skin tight clothes. Her bosses had a problem--discussing what she looked like was likened to sexual harassment, as far as I am concerned. It was probably that it drove them crazy how she looked. When she left, they did not want to get in trouble, so they made stuff up. Idiots. Don't feel like you did anything wrong. Good luck....
Carol 06/03/2010 6:36:10 AM

This seems ridiculous. She's an attractive woman, but being a woman myself and working in NYC my entire career, I have worked with and have seen women much more beautiful than she. While there will always be jerks in the corporate world who sexually harrass female colleagues, something doesn't sound right here. As long as you're bringing in money, most of these greedy bankers will keep you on board. I'm sure more details will unravel during the court case, which unfortunately will probably spawn another insipid reality show about a "hot" woman trying desperately to find a job while the odds are supposedly stacked against her.
Julio Quintana 06/03/2010 6:31:33 AM

Some people were not meant to be in the greasy lowly world of finance. She is obviously one of them. It's too bad she had to live through that. I can almost see those managers masturbating in their desks and then quoting psalms.
DUANE ROBERTS 06/03/2010 6:15:50 AM

This is a example of being judge by your looks to the point you catch hell this world is so stupid with stupid bosses running business .
reality 06/03/2010 6:05:36 AM

shes really not all thats hot, i mean she has a great body but her face is hard to look at, like the mona lisa syndrome, she looks almost down syndromish just because someone has 500 dollar shoes doesnt make them hot. this girl is obviously trying to be a model and has no money for a manager so shes trying to quickscam her way to the top, look she even did a professional photo shoot !! what a crock of loser stew
Donna 06/03/2010 6:01:14 AM

My gosh....Those dresses she has on are way too revealing, and she would have to be a complete moron to not know that....I get sick of these slutty women going around in these low cut dresses for all to see....She is trying to get men to look at her....It is obvious....She can't help being pretty, but she doesn't have to further call attention to herself this way...Enough is enough...
LordByron 06/03/2010 5:57:24 AM

"...juries tend to be more sympathetic than arbitrators, if only because the typical arbitrator is a middle-aged man." And Citibank received money from Tax-payers? With this kind of behavior, its NO WONDER the bank is such a failure. I hope she wins this case...because once she does, I will print out this article, and if possible, personally hand deliver it to the branch manager of any Citibank near me. This kind of crap has to stop...I could work around her all day, and yeah its because of the beauty...but I also know how to control myself... The really sad thing? She's looking for work while these douches are probably still working at the bank.
chris yansky 06/03/2010 5:48:44 AM

I want her working at my bank asap!!! WOW!!!
Damian Thorn 06/03/2010 5:46:32 AM

If her employment was terminated because her boss actually said she was too hot, that is an opinion and not a valid reason to fire someone. She has a case here. Her looks and body may be a little above average and there's nothing wrong with that. If she was qualified to do her job but the men around her were distracted, that is not her problem. Of course they're always thinking about what they would like to do to her if they got her into bed and that's normal. They should not have fired her because of her better than average appearance. She'll win a bunch of money in her law suit, no question about it. If she needs a job for some cash before her law suit settles, any strip joint will hire her.
Liz Levitt 06/03/2010 5:40:51 AM

This is so stupid, those men are the ones who should be fired. This woman is lovely, a curvy attractive young woman, if those men have trouble controling there urges, they have the problem, not her. Fitted business suits are appropriate, pencil skirts are fine, heels are fine. I hope she wins a bundle of money. What moroons !
inurface 06/03/2010 5:21:22 AM

She's not bad, but a GODDESS sent from heaven with this curse of being the most attractive woman in NY?? I dont think so... Shes a dime a dozen out there. She skipped presents this xmas, surrrrre. With a closet filled w armani and trendy clothes, she manages to get hers. Take up modeling since you need so much attention.
kate 06/03/2010 5:18:24 AM

she's not hot. she's a fucking fat ass.
felipe 06/03/2010 5:10:55 AM

trashy single spic with a fat ass but yes, she's hot enough. i'd def do her. as long as she doesn't sue me. money grubbing whore.
Jo 06/03/2010 5:07:01 AM

I am VERY tired of seeing SEX discrimination. She is being singled out for having a nice BODY. She would not have these troubles if she were an average dumpy woman with a fat tuches. I think she should be promoted; after all they have that woman Zoe something and Sally Krawchuck, both of them were good looking. It is very tough to find someone who is attractive who is not married and who is interested in the banking industry.
John Grychak 06/03/2010 5:03:04 AM

Working with her would make my day a lot more enjoyable, in fact it would be a pleasure to go to work daily knowing that she was going to be there.
laura 06/03/2010 4:55:23 AM

Oh Please......GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY MISS LORENZANA! Obviously she craves that attention or she wouldn't dress that way. She's relying on her big boobs to get her noticed, and then she's complaining about the attention. Don't wear low cut, cleavage showing tops and then say that men are only looking at your boobs. And no, I am not jealous. I turn heads wherever I go, but I would never cheapen myself by showing up at work dressed like I am going to a club. There are dress codes and ethics that workers need to follow to look professional, not slutty. She dresses like a slut, and if I were her bosses I would tell her to lose the cleavage and dress like a professional.
Angie 06/03/2010 4:50:17 AM

Dear Debrahlee. Beauty is a curse Hon, but don't own the problem. Thank God you are now far away from such weak, arrogant, undisciplined colleagues. Something more fabulous awaits you. Your lawyer sounds fab. Good luck.
jose 06/03/2010 4:44:04 AM

I don't understand. Smart, cute. This woman rocks
Patrick 06/03/2010 4:40:54 AM

Citibank again shows itself to be disgusting. They are men who knew they would never be able to get in the sack with her and probably had women or wives who were jealous.
Duse 06/03/2010 4:37:07 AM

She is very sexy, but that is just rediculous. almost as idiotic as someone sueing google for being hit by a car while following google map directions. Really, look before you cross the road. and for crying out loud. If you are that out of control get help, don't blame a woman for being symmetrically pleasing.
alex 06/03/2010 4:28:05 AM

That's ridiculous. There are much hotter women than her all over NYC including banking. She looks like any average Dominican woman you see trotting her kid (i.e. her welfare check) around in the Bronx. She's just trying to get attention by abusing the legal system.
JulG 06/03/2010 4:12:07 AM

I want to know something. I had to click on the "More photos of Debeorahlee Lorenzana here" text to find the photos of her in her office attire. Why did you pepper the article with those "glamour shots" of Ms. Lorenzana? Did she really wear that low-cut peach blouse to work, or did you just take some "sexy shots" of her to illustrate your point that she is sexy? You could have made your point much better by peppering the article with photos of Ms. Lorenzana in her work attire. Instead you just cheapened her by beating her over the head with her sexuality the way her male co-workers did. It's one thing to have a workplace dress code, but it's another to deny someone training classes and to pass their work off to someone else. If Ms. Lorenzana was treated differently based on her gender, and it appears she was, then she needs to receive justice in a court of law.
Antonio 06/03/2010 4:00:52 AM

She is hot. She is beautiful. I don't think that she is to hot to get fired.
Toni 06/03/2010 2:30:55 AM

Secondo me la notizia è servita al solo scopo di farsi pubblicità. un Italiano ,senza spaghetti e mandolino
michoel 06/03/2010 2:29:59 AM

do you have deborahs email address please
Gregory Tenenbaum 06/03/2010 1:29:55 AM

She looks plenty like my last girlfriend on a bad hair day. Or maybe that's just my imagination. Who knows? The real question is: where are the bikini photos? I thought I would just throw that one in there for you to consider, Village Voice. Show me the journalism!
KT 06/03/2010 1:24:07 AM

If she wants to show off her figure, go model. She's clearly attractive enough for it. However, in a business environment, the shirt she wore up there is far too revealing, and completely inappropriate for a business environment. The men with whom she worked asked her to dress more conservatively; they didn't openly ogle and made unwanted sexual advances towards her. If anything, they asked her to do so in order to prevent any unwanted distraction. This isn't a Muslim country where women are all but forced to cover up from head to toe, but there is an unofficial business dress code for men and women, and she needs to adhere to it.
Maxt 06/03/2010 1:31:39 AM

Another pic of her: http://bit.ly/dxqYeT
Deborah Lee 06/03/2010 12:22:14 AM

If she used her sexuality to advance her career (and it looks like she did) then she shouldn't complain when her methods backfire in her face.
char 06/02/2010 11:53:40 PM

I don't see it what about her is attractive????? If she felt she was hired base on looks why didn't she say anything then? And who wears a wrap dress to an interview? Also she says she doesn't have money for a new wardrobe but wore Armani during her interview? Gimme a break! After she left the workplace to get married how the hell did she afford that??!! Fishy fishy! And greedy greedy!
Anna 06/02/2010 11:30:00 PM

Helloooooo! Is anybody listening???? This woman was forbidden to wear turtle necks and fitted suits? C'mon, that's normal attire in the business world.
Lissa 06/02/2010 11:06:02 PM

This happens every day in Corporate American and it is wrong. If a woman is over 5' 7", has a good figure, wears sophisticated clothes, including 2in pumps, the result is a professional, sophisticated business woman. But, many men and some women would call her too sexy. If you have a great figure you can wear a potato sack and still look hot. The bank owes this woman a large settlement. It's their issue. Stop making tall attractive women feel guilty for looking good. Men...do something! Give your wife a gym membership... diet together, then buy her a sophisticated dress with high heels. She's feel beautiful. You'll be so excited that you'll have no desire to take out your own pent up aggression on us!
Laura 06/02/2010 10:59:18 PM

Lorenzana: All you want is fame and publicity!! I've worked for many different companies, and have seen much better looking woman than you. And, you're NOT very bright. You made a big mistake by allowing all the papers to post your pictures where you are "posing" and actually "bending" over slightly in one photo. It is SOOOO obvious that you are just looking for attention. Get on with your life and give the rest of us "hardworking" folks a break with your ridiculous claims!!
PPC 06/02/2010 10:54:23 PM

"She says she gets hit on constantly and walks on the street as if she were wearing body armor: forward and straight, avoiding everyone's gaze. " Why would she do a Maxim type photo spread then. She is attractive, but those guys must be total tools.
Bradford Stanley 06/02/2010 10:01:07 PM

I can see comments here that are truly offensive and unnecessary others right on point. Although I'm not a minority I do have close friends that are Hispanic, African American and from other backgrounds. Very smart and educated people that have to work harder than any other White American to prove themselves at school and work. I saw her pictures and she's indeed a beautiful woman who does have taste in clothes, it's her voluptuous body that in fact it's distracting for men at work and envy for other female coworkers. Is it enough justification to be harassed and fired? No. She's an easy target, being a woman AND hispanic. I have seen in my offices female executives that dress exactly like Lorenzana and they don't have a problem but it's because 1 They're White Americans 2 They're in companies where most women held high management positions, such retail, marketing, media, advertisement, fashion, etc. The bottom line here it's that her case it's something that happens in a regular basis in most Corporate America, seen that I've witness. I do hope that the Arbiter in her case do her justice, and this case bring more light in what it's a daily basis injustice in most companies.
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Jaylike Bird 06/02/2010 9:22:08 PM

Where are the candy-arse little frightened boy-men who fired her? I would like ro ridicule them for having a shrunken, angry little pair.
schoolkraft 06/02/2010 8:55:05 PM

yeah, this girl was an escort. I used to date her about once a month. She is definitely worth every penny I paid her. She would come from NJ and we would go to a 'no tell motel' Her body is perfect and she pays attention to detail. This is probably the best thing to happen to her! Debbie, Call Me
Fossie 06/02/2010 8:53:59 PM

I think this is a tragedy! Good looking men NEVER suffer b/c they are handsome. Why should this lady be persecuted b/c she is found attractive. She is NOT so attractive that men could not focus on their work, but she is a cute young woman. I am MAD as hell that women are mistreated if they are ugly and if they are pretty. This is unreal. If she is a good worker, let her be! pretty people have to eat too!
sc 06/02/2010 8:42:17 PM

She's good looking but she's not too hot to work for citibank. First, lets be clear that she is a NOT a banker. A real Banker is someone who usually works in Investment Banking, Sales and Trading, or Fixed Income department with slight variations, under the Corporate Investment or Securities branch. Small business sevices is a retail banking branch. This lady is a customer representative at best. Wallstreet's image has been tarnished, we don't need another black eye for the banking community especially when this person is not a party of it to begin with. Second, i hardly doubt that she was fired because of the way she dress or looks cuz i see plenty of smoking ladies dressing like her around and they are still working.
Sam Cooper 06/02/2010 8:12:07 PM

Being a white middle age males in America I can say without prejudice that the white men in control of this country and most of the companies and corporations and the governments, really are bigoted, racist who still think they were born with the divine right to rule every aspect of American life. Sadly they are in for a big surprise in the coming 40 or 50 years as the population shift will bring them into the minority. It is almost as if they are positioning themselves to hold all the wealth and power so they can stay in control. I have worked for both men and women bosses and find the women to be much better and more caring. This is about life and I am tired of the idea that everything is about business and business comes before life. What a ridiculous way of looking at the world. It is perhaps the number one reason why this country is in decline, that and the white males greed when it comes to wealth and power. This case clearly shows how the system works. This is a case of a beautiful Latin woman who was a threat to that old white boy club. They had to get her out before she earned too much money and had too much power. If this had been a case involving a black or Hispanic man, a gay person, or anyone that didn't fit into the white boy club, there would have been some reason to fire them. This is just life in America and always has been. As wonderful as this country is, it should and could be a whole lot better for everyone and discrimination is a tool that needs to be taken away form those who use it to maintain their financial, social and power positions.
Paul Contino 06/02/2010 8:00:30 PM

Honestly, is there anything on this earth better than Latin women?
Joe M. 06/02/2010 7:59:18 PM

Very nice-looking lady. With the exception of maybe one or two of those photos, all I see is conventional business dress for a woman. Just my $0.02.
hr vet 06/02/2010 7:56:38 PM

I guess this is what happens when you take management courses online. She seems to have taken the wrong asset management course. But seriously I think this women is really naive by believing HR was going to look out for her ... The reason companies have HR is to save them from potential lawsuits and prepare necessary ground work to fire employees. There is too much conflict of interest when HR does internal investigations. Its too late for her now but she should have taken her complaint to EEOC while she was still employed and atleast would have protected her from retaliation
e 06/02/2010 7:55:27 PM

"Spic Pride"? "We lay our flag down"? She's incredibly GHETTO for a banker, and a bit disgraceful to other (educated) latinos. She's from a LOWER-CLASS, GHETTO BACKGROUND, as she readliy admits... She is not educated. What do people expect? She has a nice body, but I do not think she is that gorgeous at all. Her face is completely plain and even a bit masculine. She does not strike me as a knock-out at all. Not ugly. But I've seen much more beautiful puerto rican women in my life. Also, I would like to let people know that I once saw an asian woman strutting down my street in the sluttiest of office attire (someone else here mentioned the "slutty secretary look")- tight pencil skirt, flirty white blouse, and super-high heels. It wasn't so much the clothes themselves, but how she over-exaggerated her femininity by swaying back and forth to such extremes and flipping her hair like a incessantly. She truly looked like a cross between a prostitute and a drag-queen in bangkok. It's not the clothes, but how people express themselves through body language. This woman was clearly out to get attention from men (and everyone) in a very extreme way. I found it annoying, and I have a feeling Deborahlee (ghetto spelled name) has a similar personality. Also, since we did Zara (clothing store) become the place to shop for office clothes? I always thought the corporate world was all about Brooks Brothers and such? I think Zara is a little to "fashion-forward" (what we in the industry call it) for the banking world. May I add that I was not there, and do not know all the details, but it's just not adding up.
Citiwhat? 06/02/2010 7:46:14 PM

Having some knowledge on this case I can surely see both sides of the argument.Why Did she get hired?I am pretty convinced it was in the same "pencil"skirt that later created a problem. Another question is if her work attire was so inapprpriate why wasnt HR consulted immediatly?Why wait all that time if it was really THAT bad.Having been to that office it was clear that this manager had a "good eye" for the attractive well endowed woman. While I am sure that this law suit is frivilous. I thik that citi should pay better attention HR issues when they do come up. I wonder what fellow employess have tosay about this????
Alex Cutter 06/02/2010 7:43:41 PM

P.S...she knows how to deep-throat DAMN good, though! Hahaha!
Alex Cutter 06/02/2010 7:42:05 PM

I DID bang her once, when she was an "escort" in Manhattan, before the banking gig. She's definitely not all that...she has an ax to grind and puts on a superiority complex around men because of her past mistakes in dating. Not my fault she only goes for hot hunks who treat her like shit! I told her if she wants to be taken seriously, she needs to act more down to earth.
nadia 06/02/2010 7:21:39 PM

I'm sorry there is nothing sexual about her, except in the second picture her top is too revealing and is not appropriate for work. I think anyone would have been cited if they dress like that( in the second picture), Too much cleavage!
Chris Kern 06/02/2010 7:20:55 PM

Follow the example department, I follow the law. Put her back to work if she is not playing the altertnative route game. Have her and Citi take a poly. I have Parkinson's and if I can manage, so can they. Chris
Kerry 06/02/2010 7:16:17 PM

I think Debrahlee thinks a little too much of herself if she thinks she was fired for being "too hot". Give me a break. Without any makeup she looks like any average plain Hispanic woman. And even with makeup she's hardly better than average. Look for a new job instead of looking for a free ride to pay for your shopping habits.
Cathy 06/02/2010 6:58:48 PM

They more than likely fired her for having the audacity to stand up for herself, firing off those e-mails and going over her bosses head. I did the same thing. I was written up for ridiculous things over and over again. Each time I would dispute it. I would try to get someone to hear me, but they always took her side. My manager decided she wanted me out the day I spoke up at a meeting and contradicted something she said during a conference call...it was all down-hill from there. This August will mark 2 years being unemployed. Unfortunately, my circumstance would not hold up in court so I just have to deal with it...I hope she wins her case!
kathryn 06/02/2010 6:58:33 PM

yWyV
Holly 06/02/2010 6:48:07 PM

OMG I am so proud of you for coming out and publically sharing your story....I had the same thing happen to be from 2006 - 2008 at a hospital I worked at during that time. It's ridiculous how "Professionals" can be so malice just because of there jealousy. Unfortunately I didn't have your strength, but after reading your story I should have pursued some time of action after being dismissed and to boot they denied me any unemployment benefits and I was unemployed for ten months.
Mary 06/02/2010 6:44:02 PM

I want to know how someone without a high school degree is getting $70,000? I mean she herself states that she didn't have the appropriate certifications, so how the HELL did she land up with $70,000 a year salary! Also I am not sure how a single mother with a $70,000 salary ,which makes for a decent living, can go about buying designer clothes!?
SML 06/02/2010 6:42:37 PM

As a woman, I can appreciate the double-standard in the corporate work environment from both men AND women. However, something is just not adding up here. This person is not affording a closet-full of designer clothes & Louboutin shoes (not to mention, the breast implants) on a $70k-a-year salary. This appears to be a person who is used to getting what she wants because of her looks and is "appalled" when that sense of entitlement begins to backfire. Furthermore, those beauty shots that accompany the article certainly don't help her case. She seems to buy into the theory "if you got it, flaunt it" and then wonders why she's getting unwanted attention. The truth is there are a ton of beautiful women in NYC and they're still able to do their jobs. There is definitely more here than meets the eye. It's too bad we don't get the other side of the story. Can you say "money grab?"
wharrington 06/02/2010 6:41:25 PM

OMG - they should be sooooooooooo pleased to have a lady like this. What is their problem? You take 'em down!
Kab 06/02/2010 6:39:15 PM

For someone making $70K/year in NYC is not a whole lot of money. She has another mouth to feed, plus the cost of living there is astronomical. My question is - how is it that she has five closets full of designer clothes?
David 06/02/2010 6:33:07 PM

Ya these womens heads are getting to big theres a differance between ERA and Greed
Andy 06/02/2010 6:29:19 PM

Well the photographs posted here will do her case a lot of good now, won't they? Clearly this woman has learned to use her looks and sexuality overtly and in a base way, but not learned how to moderate it and use it cleverly. If she had learned, she would have known how to give off an appropriate and commanding energy, so as to say "back off and be professional mister!" I have some sympathy that she got burned, but hey, how many of us here have never been fired for a no good reason? She should grow and learn from this instead of destroying her career through frivolous lawsuits, and agreeing to do stupid photo sessions. As the saying goes, "The Devil never goes anywhere he is not first invited"....
Larry Love 06/02/2010 6:23:12 PM

SMH at the person who said she has a mustache. She most definitely does not.
Harold Washington 06/02/2010 6:22:35 PM

Looking at the comments, one fact escapes a lot of them: The woman earned $70,000 a year! She was not a hooker. Who pays anyone that amount of money if they were not worth every cent of it? Was Citibank so STUPID and Blinded by this employee's beauty to pay her that about in salary? Think about that. As a former New Yorker, I can tell you that you do not earn over $40,000 in income unless you are worth it according to proof that you have the talent. New York is not some place where you can walk into a financial institution and fool your way to the top salary earner. Come people, her looks had nothing to do with her earning ability to Citibank. However, it was an intrinsic asset that she had to drum up business for which she deserved remuneration for all of her efforts.
Anne 06/02/2010 6:12:56 PM

"Audrey Hepburn elegance"...really? Poor Audrey is probably spinning in her grave.
Harold Washington 06/02/2010 6:10:12 PM

Post Script: If a woman boss did what these male bosses did, what would she be called? If you are reading this, you filled in the answer mentally. What would the corresponding answer be for man? Mentally, you answered that as well.
jolie 06/02/2010 6:05:25 PM

Are you calling bankers ugly? Jesus Anyway, she's pretty, but everyone has to follow an employer's dress code.
joyce 06/02/2010 6:04:37 PM

definately, she is appropriate for a party but not the office. Every job you have has an acceptable dress...she looks like she is looking for a roll in the sack. LOL We are all only human and she is being absurd. Guess she just wants her five minutes and some money to boot because she is so "hot"! lmao what at stuck up x#s@ !
marvin 06/02/2010 5:57:25 PM

she smoking hot, and if she was my co-worker i'd be at work every day. She's not distraction she's a visual perk.
Harold Washington 06/02/2010 5:52:52 PM

It's too bad that, when men conspire for no other reason than to join forces for their mutual benefit, that the hardest worker suffers from their exercise of power over their subordinates. Cowards and weasels are what they are, if they stole the business that this worker earned because of her efforts.
db 06/02/2010 5:42:14 PM

Oh yeah. Fire her. No WAY I'm working around that stuff. This is why men put hidden cameras in toilets.
mj 06/02/2010 5:25:11 PM

She was doing her job. Her boss wasn't doing his,by providing the necessary training required for her position. If there was a dress code for that branch why wasn't it included in the employee orientation documents all new hires get or posted in a workroom or common place? The two male managers are completely ridiculous and insulting to the thousands of men in the city who work with attractive women everyday and manage to control their sexual urges. I hope she wins her case.
Tynisha 06/02/2010 5:23:35 PM

Wow, is all I can say. Welcome to the world of Black America. You are cultured. America doesn't like culture, they tolerate it; therefore this will follow u. Since you are so smart start your own business.
c.que 06/02/2010 5:21:18 PM

i have a shapely body and another female poster above is right, you do have to dress down. she has to make that judgment call that what may fit on a girl with smaller boobs is not going to look appropriate on her. she cant say, oh im too hot theres nothing i can do about it. gtfoh. she also cant fall back on well others dress inappropriately, so its okay for me too. that defense will not hold up in court.
karen 06/02/2010 5:13:05 PM

It's typical of males to blame someone else for their own incompetence and stupidity. I's not the woman's fault because those sexist idiots at Citibank or any other male lacks the maturity and the professionalism to focus on the tasks put before them.
jimmy 06/02/2010 5:04:01 PM

Now that's stimulus money well spent. She can work for me anytime....baby
Jesse 06/02/2010 4:58:58 PM

Am I the only one that noticed that the dress in the first picture is see-through? Headlights do not a professional attire make.
vanessa 06/02/2010 4:25:09 PM

I think it is despicable that she has been treated in such a way. She is beautiful and it's sad that so many people are threatened by that. Jealousy and lust are a sad sad thing.
Gary Colin 06/02/2010 4:21:22 PM

Debrahlee Lorenzana should start her own bank, stock brokerage, etc and put a massage parlor and model school in that same plaza. She quickly become one of the riches women in the world!
Waler 06/02/2010 4:06:23 PM

I honestly didn't like this woman's comment about the puerto rican women living here in the United States she said quote, "Where I'm from," she says, switching into Spanish to explain it, "women dress up—like put on makeup and do their nails—to go to the supermarket. And I'm not talking trashy, you know, like in the Heights. I was raised very Latin, you know? We're feminine. A woman in Puerto Rico takes care of herself. The Puerto Rican women here put down our flag." How dare she say that about the puerto rican women here! My WIFE is puerto rican MISS "can't keep a man" Lorenzana! And you best take note we have been married for 12 years and YOU couldn't even keep your BABY'S DADDY or HAVE A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE! You don't deserve a DIME and how dare you try and put on blast the female co-workers at your branch! My friend works at the branch you worked at Lorenzana and she's an african american female and she said you ONLY compared how the black women dressed but NOT women of other races..
Felix G. 06/02/2010 3:59:47 PM

There are dumbell all around as a 70 year old father of a beautiful shapely 28 yearold female sue the hell out of them. Where the hell did they come from. These are the kinds of asshole we hear about having affairs on their wives, and cry like babies after they are caught.
Eva Green 06/02/2010 3:52:31 PM

My question is: how is it possible that someone who makes around 70K or less in New York City can afford an Armani "wrap dress" and a high end designer shoes? The oufits on the photo don't look cheap either. This is a great manual about how to ride the law and get noticed. Nobody gets righ by honest work.
Lorna 06/02/2010 3:52:01 PM

What a joke! She's an exhibitionist with fake breasts. She purposefully dressed (and probably acted) inappropriately in order to draw attention to herself at work because she knew it would lead to a dismissal. She planned on being fired in order to file a sexual harrassment suit and for the pubplicity. Guess she bet the odds on this being her fast track to success. I hope she fails from this decitful behavior.
rokko 06/02/2010 3:36:18 PM

Yah gotta wonder about guys who can't control themselves enough and get a grip. Covering up beautiful women is like taking all the art off the walls because somebody can't handle it. I can't believe these are real men complaining...
Cosmic Ray 06/02/2010 3:31:05 PM

My take is that she was being paid as a prospect generator. She looked good and spoke Spanish, so that alone should bring some amount of business in the door. She didn't get the "training" she's complaining about because her superiors judged that she'd have no ability to handle complex accounts and they weren't going to waste them on her. When she stopped bringing in prospects, she ceased being of any use to the bank and -- based on the fact that she's bringing an arbitrated case public, with an accompanying 20-image fashion layout -- probably had become a distraction in more ways than one.
andi andnsnm 06/02/2010 3:24:39 PM

are you kiddng me? you have some nerve to make u all these remarks. You are such a liar , yo wre fdlauting your breasts and butt to all clients just to get the business and you have no knoledge about banking and i know quite a few people who agree with me about everything.I can't believe you're such a liar ..what happened to your rich married boyfriend who cheats on you and makes you cry all the time ??? doesn't want to buy you things anymore ??? you used to tell people how got busines by wearing no bra and short skirts and now because u have no money anymore you start lieng. I hope nbdy is gonna believe yu, yu should be ashemed of yourself
Roger 06/02/2010 3:20:20 PM

Someone resumed your article in Italy too: http://www.corriere.it/cronache/10_giugno_02/debrahlee-troppo-bella-banca-licenziata_a6a1877c-6e78-11df-b855-00144f02aabe.shtml
Joe 06/02/2010 3:01:12 PM

This story doesn't add up. If she had such extensive prior banking experience, why was she still unqualified to handle such simple tasks as ordering an ATM card or opening a checking account?
alex 06/02/2010 2:58:49 PM

All largew New York area banks have the same dress code for women
Henry Chinaski 06/02/2010 2:51:51 PM

She's hot for being a banker...
scallywag 06/02/2010 2:37:01 PM

What Debrahlee failed to realize when she turned up to work looking like a frustrated man’s wet dream he might one day try to act on it and since we all know raping and dating fellow co workers is a social no no the boys behind the brass were getting frustrated. Of course Debrahlee could have solved all her problems by being born ugly or wearing a disfigured face mask every time she turned up to work, that way there would be less chance of warranting unnecesary attention, but like you and me Debrahlee understands being ugly is also a social no no. http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2010/06/debrahlee-is-pissed-that-citibank-fired-her-for-being-too-good-looking/
gail 06/02/2010 2:31:08 PM

I would love to look like this woman! This is amazingly beautiful woman. I am a happily married heterosexual woman and I want to do her!
Mike 06/02/2010 2:31:01 PM

Unless there's something missing from this story,this is crazy,she work hard,has nothing but good things on her name,and they fired her for looking good,hell in this day,and age,they lucky she didn't come to work looking like she just got up from under tha bed.WTH They should be fired,for not having self control,and recognizing game.I hope she win her case,yes she is gorgeous,but she has class,that should be a plus,hell customers be lined up to bring business,because of her.Good luck Debrahlee.
Marjorie 06/02/2010 2:28:26 PM

This woman's has a legitimate plight. Those negative comments could only come from brains lacking empathy.
m 06/02/2010 1:58:40 PM

Shut the fuck up bitch. You should be happy to have a job at all, now you are looking for more handouts? Get real, you don't have a chance of winning this case.
Gerald Shields 06/02/2010 1:57:49 PM

Lorenzana is hot! (Sorry Ms. Lorenzana, but it's true!) Definitely. My guess is her former employers were concerned about sexual harassment issues only to commit sexual harassment by letting her go, thus she has a case and she will win.
Mr. Ree 06/02/2010 1:44:46 PM

Damn! I wish she worked at my bank! I'd be wanking it in the parking lot everyday and maybe in her face too!
Doug 06/02/2010 1:41:47 PM

Is this for real?
Charla 06/02/2010 1:40:27 PM

I see both sides. She was in corporate America. Corporate America has rigid rules for dressing. Being a Latin woman myself, I know how we exaggerate in the tightness of clothes and showing off our bodies. SHe was trying to be the sexy secretary look. Mistake. I am sure her shirts were too tight in the bust and the skirts too butt hugging. She should have left those clothes for after work and weekends, favoring looser slacks and shirts and flatter shoes. You doh't want to be seen as sexy in the workplace. So even of there was discrimination in the work place, this woman must have made a judgement mistake. Being a single mother, I am not surprised if she was hoping to get male attention-and perhaps a husband. So I am not seeing her as a victim. She should have avoided the sexy secretary look.
FWWF 06/02/2010 1:29:35 PM

I'm just not over the fact that this woman was making $70K a year without a college degree in Finance or any advanced degree for that matter. The icing on the cake was when she'd written the email to the VPs without spellchecking or proof reading them. The fact that the emails were mentioned also indicate that she probably wasn't a great communicator. With that said, I've got an advanced degree, great communication skills, I'm almost nearing 33 and I barely make half her salary. I think I need to head to the gym and the plastic surgeon asap! Maybe I'll succeed in doubling my salary in the next few years.
Yaara 06/02/2010 1:27:48 PM

As a plain woman, I wish Ms. Lorenzana well -- sincerely! In the office, it's a real advantage to me NOT to be one of the gorgeous ladies. There's a real difference between how they're treated, and how the average Janes like myself are treated... and from a work perspective, being an average Jane is so much easier. Ridiculous but true. Good luck to Ms. Lorenzana in her arbitration!
Leah 06/02/2010 1:12:31 PM

DOESNT ANYONE SEE THAT SHE HAS A FREAKING MUSTACHE? Ew.
jdl51 06/02/2010 1:10:53 PM

Wanna bet she'll be in a playboy spread in the near future?
jen 06/02/2010 1:00:56 PM

it sure must suck to be pretty.
Robert in Seattle 06/02/2010 12:58:50 PM

$70k a year for WHAT? Does she have a college degree in Banking, Finance oe Economics? Where is the Lawsuit for reverse discrimination, where an individual advances up the career ladder with NO discernable skills apparent except hot looks? What about the SKILLED people who cannot find a job bcause she took it from them. Fake resumes applicants get busted. Who is looking at her credentials for the job? Let me guess. NOBODY....
bob 06/02/2010 12:55:06 PM

You have to be kidding me. Either there is something that has been left out by Ms Lorenzana or this bunch of bozos needs a 'hello'. I was a teacher for 22 yrs, before that a banker...and yeah, you had to dress the part...but some how, I think someone wanted something that she would not provide and there was some vindictive attitude in the air....it just does not 'settle' correctly with me...some one is leaving something out.!
Roy 06/02/2010 12:52:23 PM

Well, I can't argue the fact that she is fine...So fine, that I couldn't even read the story
Ed Dalton 06/02/2010 12:51:41 PM

This woman should be a model rather than a banker! Especially with a growing hispanic population. I bet after this article someone in the hispanic media will notice her or better yet the larger media....
sally 06/02/2010 12:49:19 PM

Sorry --- woman's suits that are designed to show off bootie and breasts --- then tight in the waist ---- are not appropriate for the office. Just not. But then we live in a day and age when men come into the office with flat-front pants designed to better show off their bulge.
Fred Linn 06/02/2010 12:44:08 PM

To answer your headline's question: "No".
rjp3 06/02/2010 12:44:08 PM

I love how NOW there is no unprofessional female attire -- skin tight and low cut blouses - breasts heaved out by wonder bras is fine. Unprofessional women constantly push the sexual limits in the office and cry foul when it is mentioned as an issue. Why is this situation even seen as not the norm ???
AC 06/02/2010 12:41:23 PM

Your article lacks journalistic integrity, obviously it is bias. Written by woman, if it digs deeper at examining the root of the problem it's done a bad job. Turning it into a fashion show does the subject a disservice, or perhaps exposes the truth behind her firing? it's your responsibility to provide a credible case other than the typical one used. It's the classic scenario of attractive woman versus the workforce dominated by men, provide a balanced opinion.
Pat McGroin 06/02/2010 12:38:42 PM

Yes...Yes, she is.
Wolfenstein 06/02/2010 12:28:00 PM

hmmm...Im for and against this woman and article. It seems to me Citibank is using her incompetent lawyer to set her up. A real lawyer would of put a gag order in until he was sure he would get the arbitration clause thrown out (she is not a native speaker, this clause was unconscionable). I was once a broker at a California Bank in NY. Once the whiteboys saw the lil' black boy jungle making more calls, leads and appointments than them, they got all uppity, copied my sales tactics and got me fired. Funny how her attire was not a problem with CLIENTS and was not a problem when she was bringing in the business which was ironically made more difficult after Citibank's 1 dollar stock meltdown! Another form of Irony exists when this EMT worker got offered $70k !!! This after never going to college (which is a joke anyways) and simply working as a MEDICAID sales person at the local hospital. How you jump from $12 bucks an hour to a $70k a year job is beyond me. Something fishy here I swear, the lawyer for starters is prolly getting a kickback or under table money for his complicit incompetence (see Georgie Shrub).
michelle 06/02/2010 12:23:40 PM

I'm insulted and saddened at the comments blaming Lorenzana, but unfortunately I'm not surprised. I am also a very attractive woman with curves. I also hear that I am "distracting," etc., and I have had the most unbelievable things said to my face by male colleagues ("you probably slept with the boss," etc.). What was I wearing all this time, you inevitably ask? Theory pantsuits (not tight); below the knee A-line skirts, etc. SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU DRESS. And what was I doing all day? Pulling in millions of dollars in revenue for my companies. Oh, and I am an Ivy League graduate with an MBA from a top-5 school and am at the executive level, and I still get treated this way. The only difference between me and Lorenzana is that my position makes me less likely to be fired arbitrarily, whereas they probably figured Lorenzana wasn't smart or powerful enough to do anything about it. Good for her -- I am so proud of her for knowing her rights and fighting back.
Anarcurt 06/02/2010 12:23:09 PM

I'm sorry but something seems off. First she's claiming that she was hired because of her looks and then she's claiming she was fired for them. Being that the same guy that hired her was the one (supposedly) giving her grief it just doesn't add up. See seems to go through jobs pretty regularly. Perhaps there are other reasons why she keeps finding herself at odds with her employers. She has a nice body and an OK face but Manhattan is an island full of hot bodies. I find it hard to imagine that hers in particular is causing problems. I may be wrong (we do have limited information) but the impression that I get is a spoiled brat who cannot comprehend that her performance had sank. She seems to scapegoat everything.
ilan 06/02/2010 12:17:37 PM

THIS IS UBBELIEVABLE IT IS PROBABLY A JOKE
scum 06/02/2010 12:06:33 PM

i'd cream my pants every day
PotholesInMyLawn 06/02/2010 11:57:16 AM

She is amazing! Good luck! I hope you win your case.
Chmc33oohaY 06/02/2010 11:44:53 AM

It seems to me the "easily distracted males" in her office were just petty and vindictive. Since that branch was known for hiring pretty girls, these guys probably thought they'd have a chance to "have relations with that woman, Miss Lorenzana". :-) She rejects or ignores them so they create a hostile work environment for her. As a male hotel restaurant manager, I hire based on qualifications. If a female candidate happens to be attractive, that's great, but all looks and no brains makes my job more difficult. Debralee seems to be good at her chosen profession but it's unfortunate her managers didn't utilize her skills and her looks to grow the business. They put their own interests above the company's. She deserves better.
Michael Garcia 06/02/2010 11:34:45 AM

Scott-wow! What a shithead you are. Insinuating that she got the job because of "affirmative action." I bet if this lady was a skinny blonde with big boobs, you would be saying "we need to fight this injustice!"
talidapali 06/02/2010 11:31:21 AM

@ jim Beam You are a slug.
Mimble 06/02/2010 11:13:24 AM

Citibank is ridiculous. Firing a beautiful woman because her male colleagues get lust induced brain-freeze while in her presence is ridiculous. The managers making her life miserable and acting unprofessionally should be the ones to be reprimanded and/or fired. Yes, she's a pleasure to look and takes care of her appearance - the idiots she worked with should have been professional enough to keep their eyes and silly comments to themselves. Perhaps Citibank should stop hiring 14 year old boys who have just discovered their hormones.
Karl Evans 06/02/2010 11:12:19 AM

From the sound of it, the men in the office liked having her around to pad their results, and when she rightfully demanded credit, they decided they didn't want an "uppity" woman rocking their little boys club boat. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there weren't jealous female co-workers involved in complaining against her either. I've seen that happen too many times. I hope she takes them all to the cleaners.
cal 06/02/2010 10:51:15 AM

What a great way to get her name and photos splashed across a million websites... The legal case will only make her a fraction of the money she's going to make because of all this publicity. - publicity based SOLELY upon her looks.
Ron 06/02/2010 10:45:45 AM

Yeah, she's absolutely gorgeous, no doubt about it. But what a stupid reason to fire her. Maybe there's more to it than that? http://therationalreport.blogspot.com/
littleT 06/02/2010 10:30:26 AM

The pictures provided of this woman's work wardrobe are absolutely not inappropriate. Since when did black, navy and white blazers become inappropriate?! Obviously she has an incredible body, but buying clothing that fits and is tailored properly is not a crime. There was only one picture where she even had cleavage showing! I find it to be incredibly archaic and Puritanical to hear people becoming so upset about a woman who shows... her legs? Really? In my opinion as a professional woman, if those pictures are at all indicative of her true wardrobe, she has done nothing wrong and deserves to be compensated for her hardships. Period.
Moesislak 06/02/2010 10:25:08 AM

Ok, I'm finding kind of strange that your all like, what happened to her was wrong and she should sue...you guys do know that she could just be lying? Maybe she wasn't doing as well in her job during the recession and they let her go and with a child and her shopping problem to feed, she just LIED and said it was cause she's so unbelievably hot that she got fired. What sounds more realistic to you?
davewtf 06/02/2010 9:59:47 AM

This woman clearly has a case of discrimination. No matter how attractive she is, and she IS attractive, as long as she stays within the bounds of business attire, she should be allowed to wear what she wants. I too would find her distracting, but that is my problem, not hers. I too work with a very attractive female colleague. Given that she can wear jeans and a t-shirt to work, her outfits are not as distracting. However, she is still noticeable where-ever she goes. Again, this is only an issue for male co-workers, and she should not be blamed for simply "working while attractive".
Tony O 06/02/2010 9:59:28 AM

JR: Great question. I wondered the same thing. Because when we sent over a photographer, it wasn't at all our idea for it to turn into such a revealing fashion shoot. It's Lorenzana who treated it as such. Tony Ortega, Editor
rjp3 06/02/2010 9:44:26 AM

Immmature and unprofessional --- was the obvious cause. Pretty woman who seems to have some Narcissistic Personality Disorder issues. A real professional would not be posing in photos like the ones above --- and I would bet that is what she tried to wear to the office..... hoochie momma club clothes perfect for a Vegas nightclub.
Gus Gustavson 06/02/2010 9:41:16 AM

Come on, this is ridiculous, she is not that hot. The bank must be a sausage festival whos clientele is mostly comprised of scabs to go gaga over her.
link cohen du shane 06/02/2010 9:40:55 AM

I've been there before. Working with beautiful women surrounding me. Well dressed intelligent women who were totally out of my league. It was sheer torture. Sweet beautiful delightful torture muhuhahahaha. It sounds like they wanted to clip this bird's wings because they wanted her but couldn't have her. I can be sympathetic with them, but she's totally correct, and she should sue their tight pants off.
Maria 06/02/2010 9:29:24 AM

She's not that hot. I agree with the "she has an ax to grind" bit. I have seen women way more beautiful than her in male-dominated situations do just fine. It was probably the way she was carrying herself. I am not hating on her, or jealous- I worked at a bank and I was 19 and - and pretty good looking. I was told I had to wear skirts that were longer and less tight. I started wearing skirts that were longer and less tight. It didn't make me less attractive. I worked with mostly men and I knew the longer, looser skirt would make all of our lives easier. I didn't like being seen as meat as work, so I toned it down. My only issue is that she's not that beautiful, so I smell something fishy about it all. There may be some outfits we're not aware of. But, if other women were allowed to dress that way, and she wasn't, then more power to her in getting what she deserves. There is just something off about her story.
JR 06/02/2010 9:03:19 AM

Well, the usual misogynistic comments in this thread sort of predictably illustrate the problem that the article is about. I have one question about the article. Why did the Village Voice think it was appropriate to send a photographer and take glamour shots of this plaintiff looking as "hot" as possible? I think it would have been better to illustrate the story with the photos that are at issue in the lawsuit, of her in business clothes from Zara or whatever. We can all see that she's attractive. The question is whether the VV, from an editorial point of view, wants to look more like a newsmagazine with features or more like a wanna-be soft porn mag. It seems to me that the author of this story did a serious story, but somehow the photographer and headline writer (and maybe editor?) wanted to amp up the titillation factor. Anyway, I hope this woman's arbitrator isn't affected by this Voice photo spread.
Goatravisher 06/02/2010 8:56:57 AM

She is WAY too hot for the bank. I need a new secretary though...
Mariam 06/02/2010 8:50:40 AM

Lorenzana, I hope that you find justice in all of this. You are beautiful women indeed; don't ever regret the beauty God gave you. I didn't see a problem with the way you dress. Your attire is very sophisticated and chic. A business woman with style, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. They should have been proud to have such a hard worker representing them. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wish you and your son the very best! Mariam : )
jim Beam 06/02/2010 8:36:47 AM

I would put my penis in her vagina if you know what I mean
SouthernBelle 06/02/2010 7:53:36 AM

Stan, you're right up there with Scott. I don't have to 'know' Scott...his comment outed him, as did yours. Ms. Lorenzana isn't the one with the problem...as her coworker stated, it's the men around her who can't man-up around a smart, beautiful woman who have the problem.
Gregory A. Butler 06/02/2010 7:51:35 AM

If those idiot managers at that Citibank branch can't handle being around a beautiful woman in a nice tailored suit then they are living in the wrong city! They need to man the hell up, and focus their eyes on the bottom line, NOT on Ms Lorenzana's bustline! These fools had a brainy beauty in their midst, a gorgeous woman with a good head for business who made the company a lot of money - and they messed it up because they couldn't control their hormones! What a bunch of jackasses!
Larry Love 06/02/2010 7:35:37 AM

Attractive women often have to put up with a pretty rough double standard. Because of her looks people probably don't respect her on just an intellectual level. The women think she gets hired because of her looks or who she sleeps with, or even worse are jealous and petty just because she is better looking. The men either just want to sleep with her or again don't really respect her intellectually. How many people working in a bank you know look like her? lol. She has the looks of an actress. It's pretty unfair in a way. In my mind there are only about 5% give or take exceptionally good looking people on the planet. She's in that 5%, and they usually don't end up working in banks...
st bernard madoff 06/02/2010 7:13:45 AM

i want her to open her mouth to save my sperm, for a good apr, of course...she's a nice lookin broad, not like the usual fuglys that make up feminists.
Stan 06/02/2010 6:44:20 AM

SouthernBelle says: "These men (as well as Scott) know they'd never stand a chance with someone as beautiful, smart, self-aware and ambitious as Ms. Lorenzano, so she has to pay for their insecurities?" You don't even know Scott?! Your comment says way more about your insecurities and perhaps mental instability.
Stan 06/02/2010 6:41:32 AM

"Men are kind of drawn to her," says Tanisha Ritter, a friend and former colleague who also works as a banker and praises Lorenzana's work habits. "I've seen men turn into complete idiots around her. But it's not her fault that they act this way, and it shouldn't be her problem." The above comment doesn't pass the smell test. I've seen hundreds of women in offices who are hotter than this gal, and there are no problems. Sounds like she has an ax to grind.
SouthernBelle 06/02/2010 5:58:47 AM

Scott, it's attitudes like yours and Mary Artemis' that fuel this kind of stupidity. Deborahlee Lorenzano is simply a beautiful woman with an attractive figure. I am also offended on Deborahlee's behalf, as well as all naturally well-endowed women, including myself, by Caty Green's implant comment. Obviously Caty can wear anything she wishes without a hint of a bump beneath it. Ms. Lorenzano was bringing in business, asking for more training classes....and all her colleagues could do was study her on a daily basis and critique her appearance. Perhaps HR should have focused on the complainers, pointing out they were spending way too much time watching her and not enough time minding their own jobs. By turning her accounts over to these morons, Ms. Lorenzano was being asked to enable them in their slack work habits and low moral standards. These men (as well as Scott) know they'd never stand a chance with someone as beautiful, smart, self-aware and ambitious as Ms. Lorenzano, so she has to pay for their insecurities? Citibank is a very non-professional business...I already knew this first hand. I wish Ms. Lorenzano every bit of success with her lawsuit.
scott 06/02/2010 5:34:58 AM

Gotta love how a female can get a job with looks as well as affirmative action. Apparently that's not enough; we need to break long established, accepted dress codes for them as well. And if that's not enough, well, hey, the poor victim can call the lawyers and the press. She's 33: probably saw her "career" wasn't going to be the star-studded affair she dreamed of. Enjoy new "career" while it lasts sweetie.
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Caty Green 06/01/2010 9:55:57 PM

If she insists on dressing like a hooker, showing off half-nude breast implants as she does in these photos, she is an offense to women and needs to learn a different orientation to self-valuing.
Charmian Neary 06/01/2010 7:07:27 PM

What happened to Lorenzana is unfortunate but all too common. Once an employee is labeled as trouble for whatever reason, all her behavior is seen through that prism. "Mary Artemis", who commented on this article, is a perfect example of the sad fact that women often are willing, even eager, participants in creating a "hostile" environment for an employee who is perceived as receiving more than her share of attention, even if that attention is unwelcome. If "curves" are not conducive to "business", its because "business" tends to perpetuate the primacy of men and their values -- and men don't have curves. Apparently dicks are conducive to business however -- as quite a few work at Citibank.
Mary Artemis 06/01/2010 5:44:44 PM

Well, I think it is time to recognize that we need to dress appropriately as women. If we dress to show off the curves, it may not be seen as conducive to business. I think it's just a mature attitude and acceptance. I, myself, as a woman, understand this.

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