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03/12/2012 3:26:00 PM
"This story is just another hatchet-job jab at the Department which is operating in an out of control world. "
And yet your crime stats show violent crimes is at a decades low point.
"What many commentators here seem to over-look is that cops ARE PEOPLE….in many ways just like them. Capable of the same sins and faults which affect us all as human beings."
sure, we all ram night sticks up victim's, shoot unarmed people 41 times, stalk our co-workers and kidnap them for 6 days.
What needs to happen is for you pigs to be treated like citizens are and locked up in jail. NYPD has always been a corrupt gang of thugs, top to bottom.
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02/24/2012 4:22:00 PM
or was that article 1983. Was a while since I studied that law about police not being legally allowed to strip 14 amendment rights. Either way, if Rachel is a cop, she should be investigated for unprofessional conduct.
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02/24/2012 4:17:00 PM
Huh? I am a criminologist. Sometime poor communications skills are just that and sometimes criminal activity needs a special language to aid the criminals in getting away with their behavior. In this case, we are talking about local police being afraid of the FBI, for article 1984 violations.
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10/25/2011 12:19:00 AM
No one questions that cops are people. As such, they should be subject to the same standards of behavior expected of all other people in our society: no more, no less.
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05/18/2011 5:27:00 PM
well off duty i wouldn't call a pig, cause a pig will only make things worse. no i prefer to take care of things myself, me and my .40
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03/04/2011 7:28:00 PM
I listened to an episode of This American Life today on my Iphone concerning Officer Schoolcraft while riding a train back to Perth, Scotland from Inverness. This is a truly chilling story: The fact that the NYPD suppressed crimes and moved personnel around is not unlike the actions of the Catholic church (of which I am a member) in their mishandling of pedophile priests. Just like the harm done the entire Church by small number of criminals, this story tarnishes law enforcement everywhere in this country. Why hasn't the MSM brought this to the spotlight? Possibly because of the dramatic reduction in crime in NYC? And just how factual are those numbers anyway? I'd like to hear what Rudy has to say about this...
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Rachelhamilton 12/23/2010 3:36:00 PM
Dear Reporter,
The humor in your article is bound by NYPD code.
You fail to mention that NYPD is a group of men who tell dirty jokes behind closed walls.
They speak their own language and cannot account for their actions due to 'comedy' responsibilty. They have a special lien that cannot be communicated except by way of this comment here and ones like it. 'NYPD' is a subject to be discussed by office persons and businesses but never to be taken seriously.
Thank You
good looking out for you and just kidding
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R. Verheul 11/13/2010 11:01:00 PM
Marino seems to be a thief as well. He took the tape-recorder from Schoolcraft and never returned it, it seems. I hope they put this in Marino's file as well.
The proof is in the other recording where the cops 'arresting' Schoolcraft comment on the little tape recorder.
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Deborah Madia 11/13/2010 3:43:00 AM
I was physically assauled on campus by a food service worker. There is three on the recorded reports due to verbal harrassment and threats to "kick my ass". They University Police are refusing to help and I already have had my HIPPA right violeted by A VP who also has threatned me by telling me i would be forced or expunged from school. I am a totally disabilty student, all the food service workers are informed. This is much more to this story, however I need help, who do I go to or can you help me or perhaps give me an advocate to serve justice. I am being bullyed and have been treated badly by high-ranking officals in the University Police department. Please help or tell me who can help. by the way this is a state university. thank you all sincerely deborah
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Anonymous 11/12/2010 10:31:00 AM
Adrian Schoolcraft is a courageous and remarkable, one of a kind hero! What an inspiration! Thank you, Mr. Schoolcraft. You are an incredible role model for us all. I hope and pray you get every single penny from your suit and, more so, peace of mind for you and your wonderful father.
It's an outrage that the police department would put such a brave young man through this horror. I shudder to think of what could have happened to him were he not brave enough to record and stand up to this obscene, criminal behavior. We surely would have never heard from him again. His illegal imprisonment is a ghastly injustice. What horrifies me even more is the thought of all those cops and regular citizens who were also violated in this way but who didn't have a tape recorder rolling to prove their innocence.
Mr. Rayman, can you look into the records and check others who were labled EDP's?
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harley 10/17/2010 9:40:00 PM
I'm wondering where is the NY Times on this story? Same place they were when Stalin starved 5 million Ukrainians and their reporter Walter Duranty was reporting all was well in the Soviet Union?
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harley 10/17/2010 9:40:00 PM
I'm wondering where is the NY Times on this story? Same place they were when Stalin starved 5 million Ukrainians and their reporter Walter Duranty was reporting all was well in the Soviet Union?
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Rachel 09/21/2010 9:37:00 PM
These police officers are weak and not real men. They are cowards who hide in a pack of other men because they don't have the strength to stand on their own like Adrian did. Wow - these police officers are a shame to the male species and human kind. Absolutely despicable behavior.
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Gloria Hanson 09/21/2010 1:18:00 AM
Frightening but important story. It's like Serpico all over again. About 7 years ago my friend's 16 year old son when into NYC with his girlfriend who was from Canada. They paid to go thru the turnstile on the subway, when he realized he forgot to get a map. He went back, then hopped over the turnstile, and was immediately arrested and handcuffed by an officer. Protesting that he had already paid and could prove it, they were told to shup up and dragged to a police station. The girlfriend was handcuffed to a chair, he was put in a cell. His parents had to come from CT to bail him out, and had to hire a lawyer. Eventually the whole thing was dropped. The travesty continues, I see. And we are supposed to trust these people - when they push the good guys off the force? Such a sad commentary on so-called civilization.
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pjcle 09/18/2010 7:15:00 AM
Why hasn't the Mayor stepped up to address the abuse doled out on innocent citizens? how can they shove rapes under the rug, and not be considered complicit in the perp's next crimes? how can someone give false testimony to lock someone in a psych ward, and not himself land up in jail? It's hard to believe so many people are involved - but clearly if it were just a few rotten apples, they would have just fired them. That it's dragging on, tells you they are still just going about it, business as usual, and have no interest in acknowldeging the difference between right and wrong.
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Rohin 09/15/2010 9:57:00 AM
Here's a link to the NPR segment from This American Life: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
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tst 09/14/2010 5:25:00 PM
Mr. Rayman does an admirable job of recounting the facts of Officer Schoolcraft's story, and I hope many prizes come his way. Journalistic prose, however, fails to convey the levels of terror and insanity reached when NYPD stormed Schoolcraft's bedroom. The recording is really frightening, and I am remiss as to why this story isn't more prominent both in New York and nationwide.
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stormbringerr 09/14/2010 9:47:00 AM
you know Mr.off duty, police officers take a pledge to be and act above the regular citizen and they should be held accountable to because they are given privileges that us regular citizens don't have. you seem very bitter about someone that was capable of doing just that, when you were not able to.i feel sorry for you, i doubt you have many friends, but hope you have at least some that you can count on as true friends.
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stormbringerr 09/14/2010 8:42:00 AM
you are a brave and honorable man and i only wish we had a whole lot more like you on police forces everywhere.i wish i had a neighbor like you. .the people know that you were right and are on your side.don't worry about your x-fellow officers in any publicity or trial.the only reason they come harass you at your dads home is because they are scared of what will happen to them if a trial gets underway and they are also just cowards.i wish you would join the police force where i live, we like officers like you down here in Austin, TX.thanks for being who you are and true to yourself along with other officers that have done the same.Russell Hamblen, Austin TX.
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numb 09/13/2010 6:17:00 AM
The NPR segment yesterday was truly incredible. Does anyone have a URL for it?
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Anna 09/13/2010 4:27:00 AM
This made me incredibly sad and sick - sad for the Officer who wanted to do the right thing, and sickened that some of his 'colleagues' were so desperate to justify their existence, that they (repeatedly) broke the oath they swore to uphold. When hearing such tales of corruption, I always think, "If their mothers knew, they'd beat them to kingdom come."
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Appalled Mom 09/11/2010 11:20:00 PM
Just heard the story on NPR and it just sounded like a nightmare. I can't believe that this is what goes on behind closed doors. I'm so glad Schoolcraft recorded everything to prove what they were saying and doing to him. If they weren't up to any good they wouldn't have lashed out like this. The incentives for the police need to be changed so that they are honest and don't feel they have to go above the law and take it into their own hands.
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Reggie 07/29/2010 2:16:00 AM
To commenter Off Duty:
Although I know you're pissed about what people have said and honestly, if how you describe yourself WAS true and you WERE one of the few (like Mr. Schoolcraft) who really gave a damn about their jobs and how they were carried out, your comments would not be so condescending. The fact that you can defend any of this behavior by ANYONE in law enforcement is telling of how you certainly were not like Mr. Schoolcraft; that you were most likely one of the other cops who just kept their heads in the ground and their noses clean (probably why you only made 2nd Grade and not 1st Grade, loser); how these tapes make your beloved NYPD look like racist assholes who only attempt to do their jobs when its "about the numbers". Before you deride the public that you so-called "served" so well for 38 years for their comments, you need to take a look at those bosses in City Hall and 1PP who continue to create these conditions each and every election year. Have a good one Dick!
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Robert Stein 07/13/2010 5:36:00 AM
“And then I read the papers and listen to the reports—and all the crap that has dragged us down just keeps piling up.”—Michael Burzo.
“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” –nnnnot anymore
A primer on retaliation
By Joe Anonymous
Hi Gov.
N.Y. Times - June 28, 2010.
By Jennifer Medina
“Each of the nine teachers spending their last day in the rubber room refused to allow their full names to be used, saying they worried about reprisals from administrators.” Reread it Gov.
“Protect yourself when approached by an investigator—do not answer questions.” This is the sign posted in a rubber room. Reread it Gov-- where the rubber meets the road needs someone to apply the brakes rather than continually crash.
Daily News – June 29, 2010.
By Bill Hammond
“He can’t make them accept tuition reform that would have given SUNY/CUNY financial independence from sticky-fingered Albany lawmakers.” Maybe the ties that bind need to end-right Gov.?
“An official who manipulated statistics and is currently under investigation has been quietly transferred to another position.” – Recent article as of July 2, 2010—the Daily News.
“DOJ Attorney turns whistle-blower,”—in a non-related case, but you better believe the tie in is no different than what I have heard and lived at the DOI.
2 Brooklyn Census Directors Fired over Fake Surveys—recent, and I wish I am making this up, but two employees did the right thing.
Getting back to the Chemistry Department at N.Y.U. (for-profit) but a story beyond acceptance and just as true at non-profits; a Chem. Director submitted 13,000 liquor store “business” vouchers over a 5 year period for a total in excess of $409,000 (give or take) and it took a student—a student to catch this (I love this story.) You think no-one knew?
What is worse? Falsifying numbers to fake accomplishment for the sake of bilking the taxpayer—how is the quickly hushed Jobs Created/Jobs Saved reporting organizations doing—think they have more to fudge? For no-show work and effort—go ask the ones that said NO to the scam. “CityTime” = big time spending, but that is just another story allowed to continue, for now—right Mr. Mayor? Thank Juan Gonzalez of the Daily News for his reports and our new Controller for investigating.
The relationship between academia/government and politics in Albany is just part of my pending case. “In partnership and sponsorship” funded by The City and State University and the Government (S.B.A.), administered by RFCUNY-a private non-profit. So we have David going up against Goliath when reporting documented theft of time, of services, of spending and of work-ethic no-show allowed fudged fraud...and nary a word yet to be denied. We need to understand this academia/government “relative” relationship on every CUNY/SUNY campus and the cost to the taxpayer regarding the “tuition reform,” and who will benefit—my bet is Corporate Campus.
700 teachers and administrators in rubber rooms, that is an awful lot of money for sitting around doing nothing, and we need the reason why this was allowed for years. In my case I was advised by administrators’ “perhaps he didn’t mean it,” or “fraud is not in our jurisdiction” as the answers to absolute theft and no-show efforts, and retaliation became a given. This must be a closed-door Rensselaer joke, right Gov? And those allowed fudged accomplishments—go in the street and ask.
Whistle blowing never start out that way, and technically, I have never thought of myself as a whistle blower—being in all cases this always starts out as employee office discussions and escalates to threats with witnesses, especially when ego is involved and given power, but then again, the initial response to the lies was the announced resignation of our Director. A look at how previous employees were crucified by the administration is well documented-so reread the N.Y. Times’ quotes.
On 12/23/05 a whistle blowers hotline was established at RFCUNY-R.I.O’s were hired, 5 heads at C.S.I. stepped down, and a Director resigned only to unresign, as the taxpayers’ team decided to say NO to fraud--don’t believe me, ask those that left. Theft of time, of services, of work ethics, and of unnecessary spending seem to be the “terms of entitlement” for some—and there are many who questioned spending on campus and were terminated –go ask inspector general’s and legal counsel who did just that and their reward. Reread the Times article President Obama. But to walk away from our Veterans Program as a Director after the effort others put in…Marty, John, Roe, and Bob, along with the story behind our closed satellite with Kathy, Joe and Barbara needs “sunlight” with all the stories and closed door reports available to the public—honesty and transparency.
The new S.B.A. revised again SBDC disclaimer and eliminated relationship with CUNY/SUNY now states “Such funding does not constitute and expressed or implied endorsement of the co-sponsors’ or participants’ opinions, products, or services.” What happened? Has CUNY/SUNY suddenly removed itself from the disclaimer to cover their ass, and you question their “accomplishments” yet fund them, or shall we say WE fund them?—you were bitching to John and I about the required work new leadership was not doing, and asking us to right a wrong and speak to our director--John also left, replaced by an associate. What’s up—Chancellor, or maybe your son has the answers, after all-he did contact me initially as to complaints from many others.
I viewed the film “Border Town,” and figured why the fear and why the reports of retaliation do not get media attention. Corporate Politics in the media and on campus is in need of a continued stream of money and has killed the stories and the whistle blowers. In the film, it cost people their lives as the paper said no to the story—retaliation allows the politics of Corporate Campus to continue the needed lies and the fraud, while passing along the yearly costs to the taxpayer.
Until retaliation gets the proper attention what’s OUR choice Gov?—stay quiet and totally professional hoping I will go away, or make people aware? Being decent, accountable with superior work ethics, and consummate team play doesn’t work. Go down the hall and ask our Chancellor how relative this case is to him, but, you already know the answer to the question. Regarding my case Gov. and it ain’t “without merit.”
The S.B.A. refused to release information to the A.S.B.L. (the American Small Business League—not to be confused with a lobby group staffed by associates and tell us how wonderful a job the SBDC is doing) who dragged y’all into court and won 8 times, so when my requests for information from their “partner” they fund along with our CUNY/SUNY system regarding the reports from 2006 and 2007 and am denied is no great unexpected shock to me…even those requests as to who else in the State was eliminated from the supposed reorganization. And when we listened at Arthur Kill as a Director walked away from our Veteran’s—the Strategic Plan of this government funded agency has a mandate to assist not just Veteran’s, but also Minorities—ain’t that right Mr. President? Would testimony from those at Arthur Kill come in handy in court? How about the officials that advised us about the condescending remarks and a previous organization that was left “splintered” by this person? And Mr. President—it is not the system, or the government or the non-profits that should shoulder the entire blame—those individuals that use retaliation to silence our freedom of speech , and their associates that allow and that threaten (with witnesses) what “they will do if we don’t shut up,” need to share the financial burden. Those that left before me and after me need their stories to be and to think my request to tape investigator closed door conversations was denied.
AUDIT can’t account for $109M of Columbia Work—Daily News- -July 9, 2010.
“Many of the reports and conclusions are grossly misleading and inaccurate,” and “the need to review documentation is necessary to make sure there is no misuse of funds.” People within the College know, and when those documents and time sheets are knowingly fudged by administrators—it is difficult to put an end to. Controller Liu-gosh bless, and the cure is allowing whistle blowers the freedom to end fraud by allowing us to speak without fear of reprisal.
A few years back, I was advised of issues on campus such as dead trees (by the hundreds) and the cause landfill that was dumped that supposedly raised the ground level around trees, which was the answer given to me by a professor at the college as they were cutting hundred year old former majestic dead trees in back of the astronomy lab by the soccer field— along with many others that died in the beautiful forests on campus. Even the landscaping at the back entrance has huge trees—no longer. Issues with water, and a recent hazmat fire, coupled with articles that discuss health issues and high levels of toxins are well known. The trees were and are being chopped down as I write (300 or so) and my concern is the ground students play on—if the ground is in question. So they planted many new trees around the ball fields last year—and all as in all are dead. All as in all on the meridian coming into the college, and many as in many of the new plantings opposite the track and ball fields have also died. Was the landfill contaminated?
Pictures thankfully do not need political words to reflect the accuracy of the dead wood, and the illegal dumping of landfill during the previous regime is well known—and those opposed to this dumping paid the price, as officials discuss their concern for the environment and commitment to green to the media-maybe they meant the dollars, rather than the environment. My kids play on those ball fields. Pictures are worth 1,000 words and do not lie, and the request to check the ground for contaminants…Funny thing about the word “insubordination” and used as part of the needed lies by the administration, BUT the charge of insubordination was dropped from my case right after the college refused to discuss the incident with witnesses—in court there are others who refused to compromise safety, diverted funds, missing equipment, and ethics in neighboring departments and “left.” Do the above have to do with my case directly? NO. Same people pulling the strings? YES. Maybe the Dean at the College will enlighten us in court.
We closed ball fields in Great Kills for high levels of radon in the ground due to contaminated dumping of landfill that some believe is “safe,” and the air was just as safe after 9/11 in lower Manhattan—go ask those that are suffering, and simple requests to check soil for safety sake, but with given answers to simple questions such as missing equipment on campus that is met with “if you value your job-shut up or else.”--waddya expect.
Making people personally and financially responsible for retaliation when proven guilty is long overdue, but instead we reward them with other no-show positions within the system, allow their pensions and benefits to kick in, make sure the fudged numbers and time sheets continue to be fudged, while the taxpayer pays for this...forever.
This is not just about my little case of retaliation that you could squash at will, but just might not be able to in court—it is a primer for all threatened and dismissed through lies. The “laws” do nothing to protect our freedom of speech—so to write and write and write until heard needs awareness—it is what it is. Retaliation protection as outlined by college administration falls under the guise of “creative” re-organizations, that when you look at the replacements and the lies from day one up until recent hiring’s (in my case) make a mockery of “protection.” Be responsible for your actions.
And you wonder why the economy is in the shitter.
VTY,
Robert Stein
718-715-2902
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John Heinz 07/04/2010 4:51:00 PM
What we need is a national police force that can rotate good guys out of such corrosive duty. I grew up in Chicago and have read Chicago papers for 70 years.
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RealityBites 06/25/2010 10:56:00 AM
Time to start taking some of these police officials on one way rides to justice......
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Jeffery 06/23/2010 1:29:00 AM
What's really shocking about all this is that it is shocking at all. NYPD generally sucks. I drive a yellow taxi and witness how the NYPD interact with the public everytime I work. Most have an irrational hatred of cab drivers (who happen to be overwhelmingly immigrants) and pay little attention to our reports of violent crimes witnessed being perpetrated against us or others on the streets. NYPD shows its "above the law" attitude to the public constantly with their refusal to follow traffic laws and regulations. They don't have to wait at red lights for any reason including being late to Dunkin Donuts or some other personal rendevous. No turn allowed at this intersection? Doesn't apply to NYPD just cruising around or didn't you know? I could go on but you by now get my drift, NYPD has a culture of corruption fostered by these little things like not having to wait for the light to chang green. It's obvious and it's wrong.
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Denise 06/22/2010 8:47:00 PM
the word "hero" is thrown around all the time. It's been so cheapened by its constant application, no one pays any attention anymore. Schoolcraft is a true hero, but I guess no one will pay any attention.
Anyone who thought Internal Affairs was anything resembling what you see on television, should have gotten a wake up call from reading this. They are in the cover up camp too.
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ethelsuggs 06/22/2010 2:48:00 PM
good luck Mr Schoolcraft. You're a good person and a good cop.
you were right about how you communicated with the community.
I hope you win your case.
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Herman 06/22/2010 1:14:00 AM
Why hasn't his guy gone to the FBI or filed a complaint with the Justice Department? It seems the FBI loves to arrest police officers, so why hasn't anything been done? If his story is accurate and backed up by audiomtapes, the Brass should have been arrested for multiple felonies already.
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Off Duty 06/22/2010 12:02:00 AM
OK....ok.....keep your pants on already! This story is just another hatchet-job jab at the Department which is operating in an out of control world.
When I came on the job in 1969, (and things weren’t all that great back then either), I came as a genuine article....trying to change the world and willing to put my money where my mouth was. 38 years later, (yes, I'm now retired and living on my second-grader pension), I have to wonder how it all held together....at all.
What many commentators here seem to over-look is that cops ARE PEOPLE….in many ways just like them. Capable of the same sins and faults which affect us all as human beings.
So....Tell me all you quick to criticize, shit-for-brains imbeciles....posting here with your version of sad encounters with “the man” and other pathetic examples of poor police reviews.....who you gonna call when the shit hits your fan? And what would your world be like without people like me who make/made the effort every day to keep the wolves from your door?
Sorry for your bad hair day mutha-fuckers, but maybe if you did some serious re-evaluation about your own shitty life’s choices....you might have a different take on your venal and worthless existence.
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Axel 06/20/2010 9:44:00 AM
Why isn't the Justice Department involved in this? This is clearly a civil rights issue.
Oh, I forgot. We still have a republican in the White House. Despite what the republicans think.
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connor larkin 06/19/2010 6:43:00 PM
TX said, 'Mr Schoolcraft and his daddy need to come back home to Texas. See what happens to good ol boys in NYC? Come on home.'
Small town cops/constables /sheriffs in Dallas in Houston(Civil Rights E. Texas counties) are bullies and lie/'testilying' in court.
From PDX to NYC to Alabama, cops are untrustworthy an dishonest. Busted for DUIs, cocaine use in Memphis, they can shoot and kill then get reinstated.
It's a crime to be a honest citizen in USA>
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Pedro 06/19/2010 5:26:00 AM
I'm sincerely appalled and in shock. They have to make justice for this man. The N.Y.P.D. has to be held accountable. Enough of negligence and having scum that refuse to do their job accordingly.
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pork 06/18/2010 10:36:00 AM
this man is a hero. the rest of them (including bloomberg) belong in jail.
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06/17/2010 5:42:00 AM
Mr Schoolcraft was very brave to do what he did. Unfortunately if you go against the NYPD they can use their power and influence against you. The information he gathered won't necessarily change anything. I hope he gets a good settlement for his trouble. Best wishes.
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Will 06/17/2010 2:39:00 AM
Fucking pigs, now more tax money having to be paid out because they think they are above the law. Just disgusting.
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tx 06/16/2010 10:02:00 PM
Mr Schoolcraft and his daddy need to come back home to Texas. See what happens to good ol boys in NYC? Come on home.
