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Rico1 05/20/2012 5:26:00 PM
I saw a guy threaten people with a gun to move so he could dig his tank from the ground @ summer camp. Theyre all over not just the east coast. A$$holes
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Ontour 05/15/2012 2:56:00 AM
Hanging tough, you should stick to talking about youre real life's experiences, not trying to be something you are definitely not. If you can reconcile within your own mind that being a heroin addict and all that goes along with that wonderful package is similar in any way to the gas business on show lots, you are either confused and have never had anything of a 'heroin problem' or you have never stepped foot on a concert lot. Ive been down the junk trail and as I surely do not wear it as some badge of honor, I can state unequivically that it is nothing like anything I have seen at the shows ive been to and Ive been down the shakedown more than a couple of times myself. GET A LIFE!
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gizmo 05/02/2012 11:31:00 PM
im about to get my kicks @ Summer Camp,... Fuck a "Nitrous Mafia". Youre shit will get gaffled @ summer camp, & not by the pigs. sell yer wares, and have some class & respect, & stop ruining the scene for others. who brings a fucking gun to a festival, anyway?
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Julius 03/02/2012 10:39:00 PM
The kid who died at Vibes overdosed. It had nothing to do with nitrous other than the fact that he kicked it in the same area where the balloons were being sold.
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hangingtough 03/02/2012 10:33:00 PM
You are insanely out of touch and obviously haven't been on a lot in a long while. It has changed dramatically. Balloons were fun when I first started going to Dead shows in the late 80's. I still go to fests now and the scene has taken an unbelievable turn that I never would have predicted. Gas Alley's are depravity at their worst. As a former heroin addict, I can honestly say that what I see around the tanks is at least as bad as what I ever saw scoring bags on the streets. The dealers are organized, controlled, and ruthless. They are not there just to earn enough to stay on tour, the are only there to earn and will do whatever it takes to keep on earning. They use everything from bribes to intimidation to outright violence to protect their profits. If you are truly a former Head from the 80's or even 90's then you'd be horrified to see what the nitrous scene has evolved in to.
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Lily420 12/22/2011 2:18:00 PM
Sounds like he started with half a brain.....
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Lily420 12/22/2011 2:16:00 PM
Haha. Ya, that guy that got killed at vibes wasn't a big deal at all. Lol nope. Sounds like someone did a few too many balloons.
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Lily420 12/22/2011 2:12:00 PM
You obviously haven't spent much time on lot lately friend. It's no longer nice hippie kids hanging out at a bus slinging balloons. It's organized and liable to get your ass shot if you fuck with their business. The scene has changed in the last 30 years.....
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12/09/2011 12:59:00 AM
If they refer to themselves as a "mafia" and make that much money, it's only a matter of time before the get slapped with RICO charges. Just saying.
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Peace 11/30/2011 5:31:00 AM
he's not a liar. its a lifestyle. one member i once knew hadn't paid a single bill in his entire life. he sold it for money. for food.
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09/21/2011 4:52:00 PM
I think you missed the point of the article brah
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09/21/2011 4:50:00 PM
You do it to eat and that's all? Yeah right... You can get a job and eat just fine
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Jroc6969 08/23/2011 6:46:00 AM
Why somebody that gets smacked up right away start making up some kind of gang shit up.i been in the game for awile and do it to eat. Nothing more nothing less. Also I wish we made 300,000 I would have been retired. And for those who have a problm with what we do fuck u all
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Haha 06/30/2011 8:08:00 PM
lol greg... i think i aggree with u ther but if ur typin shit like this u jus gonna come off like a moron - peopel gon say "Well this young man has obviously had too much Nitrous. We are going to have funnel more money into the war on drugs."
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OFOL 06/29/2011 6:33:00 AM
wack, but i love nitrous
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Stover 06/20/2011 5:49:00 AM
Using that logic, you would say that the introduction of crack to urban communities in the 80s was an improvement made by rational thinking people.
In reality, those communities would have been better off if they were never introduced to crack and this scene would be better off if it was never introduced to nitrous. It needs to be eradicated.
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housefreak44 05/09/2011 5:37:00 PM
our scene...ya its the biggest in the world right now pal...sorry to break it to u
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Cumshot69 04/16/2011 3:28:00 PM
LOL
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04/01/2011 9:26:00 PM
i fucking hate these douchebags
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Peace&Love 03/06/2011 6:58:00 PM
"Everybody's got the right to speak their mind, so don't shoot me for saying mine." -The Kinks
Last month I saw my 8th Umphrey's show at the Electric Factory. As usual, Umphrey's was fucking amazing! However, it was a pretty big buzz-kill seeing all of the negative effects of the drug culture. Sure I was on E at the show, and was smoking pot throughout, but my intentions were to have a great time and dance with my fellow Umphreaks. I saw a drug dealer beat someone up in the bathroom, and was aggressively pestered by a drug dealer outside when I simply told him I didn't know what he was trying to sell me (still don't). I'm not saying that I think drugs are bad, but the violence involved is killing our scene. I hope that anyone reading this will stop supporting the Nitrous Mafia, and other drug dealers who bring violence to the scene. If you want to do drugs, buy them from people you know. This scene should be about loving each other and like I've heard BB say many times, "Take care of each other."
I'm from Philly, I'm quite familiar with the scene. Most of the dealers of drugs other than nitrous are not selling you what they say they are. I know a lot of people who have bought bum drugs at Philly shows. Be safe, y'all! All I want is for everybody to dance and enjoy the music! And that's what the bands want, too.
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ChrisBowers4 03/06/2011 2:38:00 AM
I feel that All Good is making the correct choice with this one. My bro was beaten up by one of those guys for little to no reason at All Good one year. But I also recall alcohol bringing on violent as well. They run because they know its wrong. Sure its fun for those who have self control but how many of those are there. I must say I feel sad for the land and volunteers who clean it up. Keep up the good work All Good.
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Gregvantreese 03/05/2011 11:50:00 AM
i need some tanks everybody has there own thing so all u haters stop ur bitchin its our bodies all drugs should be legal fuck this police state government
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Gregvantreese 03/05/2011 11:46:00 AM
u said it right bro exactly the vendors are always the ones winin
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punkjunkie 01/07/2011 5:05:00 PM
u r all losers and ur scene sux!!
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punkjunkie 01/07/2011 4:58:00 PM
u sound like a total loser.
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slazmosis jones 12/08/2010 2:04:00 PM
the tanks have become part of the scene, it is shit that there not true heads, but a good triss hit can b nice at times, the violence is not needed... so i dont know i have mixed emotions on the whole thing, but it is fucked up and as far as dont buy balloons, thats retarded cause theres always sombody that will buy balloons
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F 11/21/2010 10:36:00 PM
This scene is utterly retarded. The crazy thing is, it isn't the guys selling N2O that is the problem. The problem is the retarded ass kids at these shows. People who ignorantly spout "nitrous kills brain cells" and whatnot. These nitrous dealers seem to be the only rational actors in the equation. They are selling nitrous to make money. Just as the dude is selling his glass to make money. Or the guy selling his T-shirts or the chick selling your dresses she made or the guy selling his pot to buy a ticket. The problem that people seem to have is with the way they conduct business. Be it the price or the supposed violence. I've been to quite a few shows and one of the pervasive thoughts in my mind the whole time is there seems to be two crowds. People selling shit to rich kids or rich kids acting like its a free for all at the drug buffet. I don't see this phenomenon where people go JUST for the music. If that were the case people wouldn't give a fuck about the 'nitrous mafia' because they have nothing to do for the music. Like many of the other comments prove, people go for the overall experience. As it seems these nitrous sellers seem to be ruining the overall experience for everyone. But, on the flipside they must improving someones experience because people are buying their product. It's pretty obvious that the other vendors are angry because they are taking their customers money which means less money for them to spew on shit like pipes and t-shirts. For a scene that is supposedly free and open-minded its pretty funny how people blindly do what others do. At a show, everyone has their tye-dye shirt or a shirt of their favorite band's name on the logo of a popular brand. Im sorry but the problem isn't with these guys its with the scene itself.
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A 11/15/2010 10:07:00 PM
it's funny that the opening scene is at a bisco concert
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Kristin 10/21/2010 11:17:00 AM
Philly def is known for the best and most available nitrous....but what about moedown. holy ****...so much.
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Kristin 10/21/2010 11:17:00 AM
Philly def is known for the best and most available nitrous....but what about moedown. holy ****...so much.
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Guitar Doug 09/30/2010 1:12:00 PM
Here's a rock mainstream news story, that gave me a little chuckle, being an ex Deadhead man myself. Oh yes, why do you think I owe 50k in student loans to this day? Yep, countless Grateful Dead shows. Thanks Uncle Sam and the taxpaying "workers" of America. Well done, now keep up the hard work.
"If the taxpayers can afford wars, they sure as heck can afford for me to go to Dead shows" is what I always say.
Back then, you learned a lot more at a Dead show about life, than in any college classroom. That's for sure. Besides, I showed up for class, most days. I just happen to be the only guy in the business school, who brought a guitar to class, rather than a calculator, or notebook. Yep, those were the days...
I could fill a book with life lessons I learned from those years, among the Deadheads and the band itself. Mainly, that most things are not quite as they appear, and from there, it's a one way trip down the rabbit hole.
Actually, this weird story gave me more of a case of the giggles. I still crack up every time I think of the damn thing! Thanks, I needed that! I laughed so hard, I felt like I was high!
It's just that I actually thought this was a comedy story at first, but it would seem it's real and was the cover story of The Village Voice. I had to read it a couple times, to figure out what the hell is going on, here. I mean, the thing is so stupid, but it's being presented as a shocking, hardhitting news story. Ha ha!
Seriously, if they like storys like this, hire me. I can make up all the fake news stories they need, every issue. At least my fake news stories, take awhile to catch on to the fact that I am putting you on. Some people never catch on, it seems. This one, is just downright strange and I think the poor writer believes what he is saying.
A journalist does an undercover investigation into the world of hippies selling "balloons" outside jamband shows. Shocking but true...
I guess he missed the 200 guys walking around shouting "doses?" and "shrooms?" while on patrol in the shows parking lots. Doses, being code for hits of LSD, obviously.
The guy even calls the balloons, "hippie crack" ha ha! Oh man, this story is a trip! This guy should write for Saturday Night Live, I swear. Crack? I suppose cigarettes at concerts are the "new heroine", too.
"A revolting scene. One that's now become familiar to concertgoers."
Yuck yuck :) See what I mean? It's twisted. The guy is out of his tree.
I have been going to concerts since I was 10 and have never heard a single person complain about this so called "revolting" problem. Riots yes, balloons no. Can't say I have heard that one, yet.
I guess he missed the porta-potties, or the passed out chick with puke in her hair in the bushes. Now, that's the revolting, not a bunch of hippies hanging out around a VW bus, with a nitrous tank, talking amongst themselves.
How about the the cops who show up at concerts on horseback, barking at people and practically trampling folks, just waiting in lines, or walking around outside the concert halls? Now, that's a revolting scene.
He even portrays the Deadheads as being broken down into battling gangs, at war over who is going to sell Balloons. It's the most absurd story going.
What's next? The secret war going on in the world of hackeysack, or rival gangs of girls who make yarn bracelets?
I mean, talk about stupid.
Read more: http://www.myspace.com/theguitardouglibrary/blog?bID=539540125#ixzz10ziD29Hg
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Aftermath 09/23/2010 3:27:00 PM
We're not talking about having your own tank or chillin on a whip-cream canister. I "know" some of these guys, and even before I did had more close encounters with them than I care to think about. In the Phish Camden lot in '03 one of em was dragging a tank & walked into me as I was walking along. This little punk stops and says "Outta my way motherfucker or I'll flex my steel on you". Well that doesn't do ya a whole lot of good if you're half my size and the gun is still tucked in the back of your pants. Spun that lil shit around, grab the gun, pistol whipped the punk in the face, took out the clip, cleared the chamber, and tossed it all in the Delaware River. I hate guns but I've done enough target shooting to know how to handle one. The mafia wasn't as thick then...now I'd wind up dead for that sort of thing.
And to those of you who say they aren't a mafia, you need to educate yourselves. There are literally "families" the same way there are in traditional mafias. The guy who says they "wouldn't drop a body at a fest they were working" doesn't know what he is talking about. They will do whatever they feel they have to do if they think you disrespected them in any way. I'd love to get one of these guys bare-knuckle one on one some day. I think I might welcome the feds if that's who they're after.
If it comes down to it maybe they need to dealt with like ganja poachers in Northern California. Do a little research if you don't know what that means.
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IndyJamz 08/11/2010 4:37:00 AM
They're gonna get taken down on RICO charges fellas. That's some serious federal time. We should do what we can to get rid of these fucks. I mean a murder at Vibes? We should all buy some tanks and assemble our "Nitrous Family" and sell balloons 2 for $5 and if you see someone getting fucked with by these custies then jump in and help your brother out. That's what were supposed to be about right? Everyone just walks the other way and pretends it's not happening because that wouldn't be "Cool" and we don't want no drama bro.
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ggvilleman 08/09/2010 10:54:00 AM
This is so ridiculous all this talk about how bad nitrous is when at every one of these shows festivals there are ten trillion other illicit harmful and actually more damaging shit that's going on. I personally don't like the so called nitrous Mafia... No they are not there for the music and are pretty much a bunch of punk ass junkies...but seriously they don't really do anything but sit there and sell a gas that everyone lines up in drones to buy..They are not there to rob you and wont fuck with you if you don't fuck with them..I have been to over 50 phish shows and many other jam band shows and festivals throughout my days... I am still a huge phan and will continues to see the boys from VT as long as they play... I don't see the whole notion that the nitrous mafia or nitrous is ruining our scene...yes some people take it over board as they will do with anything but bottom line if you are not harassing the people selling the shit you wont get harassed by them. Pretty simple. They don't go to shows and start fights with people. I mean seriously its the same concept as if I was selling some weed and you tried to jack my shit then yea we have a problem... IMO that is where and only where I have seen any form of violence or negativity take place. Yea these dudes are from Philly they are loud and they sound like they could be the cast of the Jersey shore but don't over hype whats going on. They really are not that big. And hyping them up as a Mafia is hilarious even if there is some organization too it.. Simple solution to this so called problem don't line up and buy balloons just have some self control and let the other shit in your system be enough...If people didn't line up to buy it they would have no market.. And one of the reasons we are all drawn to these shows and these bands other than the music is the whole scene and experience. This includes the freedoms that the lot campgrounds shake down streets bring...If you want it its there... It is some of draw. if you don't want it simply walk right on by...NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE'S HAND TO DO ANYTHING. To me it is kind of hypocritical to say that they should be stopped and all this crap.. That to me is what we should not want ...a bunch of vigilante warriors at phish show...Oh great that will be fun... I think then the whole situation will no doubt escalate into a real problem....Just let it be.People are not killing each other.. So a lot (but not all) of the kids selling this shit are a little sketchy so what nitrous does not kill people why the fuck would my dentist give it to me if it did.. OK so a few brain cells at a show lost at a show now and then and twenty thirty bucks gone not the end of the world to me. I think there are bigger fish to fry than a problem that is not really a big deal..
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scott 07/21/2010 9:11:00 AM
if you want them to stop showing up at your favorite shows, don't buy the balloons.
if you really need some gas (which nobody does) just buy whippits and do them at the hotel later.
of course asking people to exercise some self control will never work, so this problem will never go away.
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spaceyhead 07/20/2010 11:21:00 AM
simple solution = don't buy balloons from these guys and they will have no reason to be there. i hope they don't venture to the west coast.
it is scary shit. people have died from oxygen deprivation as a result of sitting in a car with a tank and the windows rolled up. if you're standing up you will likely fall on your head, and one of the side effects is sexual dysfunction. teach children and friends acting like children about the risks.
i have definitely witnessed one serious nitrous addiction. a guy i know used to sell tanks, but the car place started getting stuff with sulfur in the tanks so that it is too unbearable to suck. this guy is so addicted that he just swears it doesn't taste that bad and keeps doing it. so sad. i'm sure at some point he had half a brain.
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mc 07/19/2010 11:25:00 PM
I have been going to Jam band concerts for about 20 years and there has always been a lot of hippie crack in the lots. Personally, I avoid it for three reasons. One, it is REALLY bad for you and lasts less than a minute. Two, the people doing it look like crack heads. Three, the people selling it are often there for one reason only... money, not to support their tour or their ticket. I went to a Phish show at least 10 years ago in a park in Philly. In the woods around the they had a crazy nitrus operation going on with headsets and big guys that would push and yell at you. Very uncool and very un-hippie like. Professional drug dealers and quite frankly, the scum of the earth.
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Jesse Charlebois 07/19/2010 5:28:00 AM
The UK balloon scene is much more a cottage industry. At Glastonbury last year my friends and I were next to a group of guys who had brought a thousand of those small canisters used in cake creamers. They had brought the creamer itself refered to as a "cracker" and also brought baloons. They went for two pounds each or three for a fiver and the guys just movd around the festival. We saw hundreds of people selling balloons and thousands taking them, including us. I have to say i was surprised to read in the article above about addicitve qualities. I think the reality is that the high is so short that its possible that people just want to stay high a bit longer leading a repeat hits.
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Elizabeth 07/19/2010 4:37:00 AM
Fascinating look into a world I hadn't heard much about before. Although I think the Nitrous Mafia is nothing but negative, I have some questions about the pointing fingers... Read more of my thoughts about this article at http://wp.me/pRyJR-7U
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cinco loco 07/18/2010 8:03:00 AM
These big festies that have become havens for the N.M. suck anyway - too many people, you camp too far away, etc. If you want to enjoy a clean scene, go to smaller festivals! - Check out The Northeast Kingdom Fest in Vermont - Less than 2000 people, BYOB, good, clean drugs available and NO NITROUS - you could bring your kids there and it's a reasonable scene, but you can still party as well. I highly recommend it - www.NEKMF.com.
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Luciano N Cognito 07/17/2010 1:29:00 AM
This year's All Good saw almost no N2O!!! I was shocked, amazed, and pleasantly surprised. Vibes is next for me and I hope that security is as successful at stamping out this scourge as they were in WV!
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Amy 07/16/2010 8:47:00 PM
Interesting article. Yes, we have lots of drugs in Philly. As for enforcement, it is similar to my time in the Bronx in the late 80s, early 90s. If you are not murdering or raping, let it be.
This is not a good thing, but it is.
I live in Northern Liberties and don't care for some of the clubs and bars, but generally it is civilized. I do object to characterizing No Libs as "club cluttered." There is a lot to our neighborhood - parks, people of all ages and races, great food and beer, festivals, outdoor movies, farmer's market and flea market every weekend and lots of family stuff. We have a very active neighbors's association, the NLNA, and we are a very "green" neighborhood. I dare you to come down here for a weekend and not have a good, safe time.
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Allie Smithson 07/16/2010 10:58:00 AM
I remember when I met the "Nitrous Mafia" in '99... friends of mine were involved. I saw more than I wanted to. I asked them about their operation, and they gave me details. I saw the money; I saw the guns. I watched some really smart young people turn into very ugly, very bad people.
I remember calling them the "Nitrous Mafia," and everyone I was hanging out with back then agreed that the term suited them just fine! I can't believe how much bigger they've grown since my first encounters in '99.
I used to work at music festivals (the ones mentioned in this article & then some), and because of the N2o mafia, I didn't want to be associated w/ the music festival scene anymore. I saw more more of the "bad" than the "good." I had to take a step back.
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DiscoBiscuitsSUCK 07/16/2010 2:59:00 AM
marc brownstein is a hook nosed jew bastard and your band sucks, your festival sucks, and your whole life sucks. I hope you overdose or get even more STD's than you already have from those nasty techno whores that like you guys. I heard you on WXPN and you sound like a total faggot JEW piece of shit. I wish your whole family was wiped out by HITLER. hahahaha fuck you and all your fans. if you like the biscos then kill yourself.
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BRINGitBITCH 07/16/2010 2:51:00 AM
PS I just wanted to say that it is obvious that the Vibes in Bridgeport is SHADY as fuck. The security are a bunch of scum, the cops are even worse, the Nitrous vendors say what happens when because Ken lets it happen. If you just sit back and watch the weekend unfold you can easily watch the whole things go down. and now the Feds are gonna be all over the place fucking with everyone else because a few peoples wallets get padded by these crackhead tweakers. I mean some people who are staff at the Vibes try to keep people safe and they end up targeted by the nitrous mafia, just for doing their job and standing up for what they believe in. We need a massive and potentially extremely VIOLENT show of force this year because of what occured last year and every other year since it left upstate NY. end of story. If this shit went down at Mariaville what do you think would happen? Well those nitrous "mafia" would end up burried on that property somewhere 6 feet deep or being fed to the pregnant sows on the farm up the road. So grow some balls and take back your scene. nobody else is gonna do it for you. It is so funny to think how excited, emotional, and supportive so many kids that attend the vibes were about a lying, cheating, scumbag, and a ridiculously horrible dancer like Obama but when kids get beat and pushed around they just take it up the ass like a fish. (seems a common way to go) get even more hyped about these "mafia" kids if you wanna salvage what is left of this scene that so many people love so much. i am gonna shut up with this quote from some guido piece of shit who is talking shit on the very kids who he makes money off of "They say we're all city guys and not hippie guys," says Beef. "That's why they made the Mafia up. Because of guys like us, who don't blend in, wearing Jordan pants and $200 Jordan sneakers. These kids come out like bobos in their hippie T-shirts." I am proud to look like a "bobo" rather than some shit stain of society like they have on the jersey shore. and I am more of a baller than any of those nitrous shit stain wanna be "mafia" scum
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Same as RespondingtoFOOD FORTH 07/16/2010 2:42:00 AM
PS I just wanted to say that it is obvious that the Vibes in Bridgeport is SHADY as fuck. The security are a bunch of scum, the cops are even worse, the Nitrous vendors say what happens when because Ken lets it happen. If you just sit back and watch the weekend unfold you can easily watch the whole things go down. and now the Feds are gonna be all over the place fucking with everyone else because a few peoples wallets get padded by these crackhead tweakers. I mean some people who are staff at the Vibes try to keep people safe and they end up targeted by the nitrous mafia, just for doing their job and standing up for what they believe in. We need a massive and potentially extremely VIOLENT show of force this year because of what occured last year and every other year since it left upstate NY. end of story. If this shit went down at Mariaville what do you think would happen? Well those nitrous "mafia" would end up burried on that property somewhere 6 feet deep or being fed to the pregnant sows on the farm up the road. So grow some balls and take back your scene. nobody else is gonna do it for you. It is so funny to think how excited, emotional, and supportive so many kids that attend the vibes were about a lying, cheating, scumbag, and a ridiculously horrible dancer like Obama but when kids get beat and pushed around they just take it up the ass like a fish. (seems a common way to go) get even more hyped about these "mafia" kids if you wanna salvage what is left of this scene that so many people love so much. i am gonna shut up with this quote from some guido piece of shit who is talking shit on the very kids who he makes money off of "They say we're all city guys and not hippie guys," says Beef. "That's why they made the Mafia up. Because of guys like us, who don't blend in, wearing Jordan pants and $200 Jordan sneakers. These kids come out like bobos in their hippie T-shirts." I am proud to look like a "bobo" rather than some shit stain of society like they have on the jersey shore. and I am more of a baller than any of those nitrous shit stain wanna be "mafia" scum
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Responding to FOODFORTHOUGHT 07/16/2010 2:22:00 AM
How bout this foodforthought. Fuck the police. who needs police? Why cant we take care of our scene ourselves? nobody tells me what to think or say or how to act except the Good Lord. If we dont want the nitrous vendors at our shows then we make sure they know they arent welcome. Do the math. fill in the blanks. READ BETWEEN THE LINES. They push around these hippies like it aint no thang (not everyone, but alot of people), so we gotta push back. We dont need to stoop to their level, but if the majority of people peacefully yet forcefully let it be known that there is no place for them at the Vibes in 2010 or any other family festival and they dont take the hint. Well its pretty obvious Ken and alot of other promoters arent doing anything about this problem or they are making money off of it. The police as a whole are just the same old pieces of shit that they usually are (protect and serve their wallets). A few smaller bands that I personally dont give a shit about in this article have taken a semi-stand against the Nitrous vendors, but I havent heard shit from Bob Weir or Phil Lesh about these fucks. They will open their fuckin yaps about who they want all these impressionable kids who to VOTE for, for PRESIDENT, but when kids are dying and getting beat half to death in the scene they created and the scene that puts gourmet VEGGIE BURRITOS on their plate every night and a new 18 (or younger) girl or boy in Bob Weirs bed everynight they just turn away like a coward. I want to see all you kids and old heads stand up for what you believe in. Some people do every single day but alot of people dont. Take note that right now as we speak someone somewhere is laying down the law so that some spineless coward can sell his "art" and then go to bed next to Suzy Rotten Crotch and never take a stand for nothing his whole life. Maybe we should put the movie "300" on a big screen on thursday night at the vibes and then go out and demolish anyone wearing "...wearing Jordan pants and $200 Jordan sneakers". sounds like fun. then we can get the kids back out from their hiding spots and actually chill out like we are supposed to. I go to these things to relax and have a nice peaceful time watching music I love and meeting new friends or seeing the same old kind folks not to be on edge and have to regulate something that Ken gets paid to regulate. Do something with yourselves this year, dont be a pussy anymore.
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Foodforthought 07/15/2010 7:50:00 AM
The negative environment (thugs/violence) that we are so against is intricately tied to the same environment that we all appreciate: not having cops running around the campsite snooping in and busting us for smoking pot. So it's basically a catch-22. There is nothing wrong with nitrous itself, used in moderation (though it's called hippie-crack for a reason). The problem is the thugs, intimidation, violence, etc. How can we ask the police to come in and bust people for selling nitrous while keeping their eyes closed to all the other illegal crap going on. Sounds hypocritical to me, and I don't have an answer.
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Ryan 07/15/2010 7:42:00 AM
I dont get why people are so angry about nitrous? I go to a festival and I sit there with my whipped cream dispenser and a box of chargers and bliss out to the music. Ive never had a problem. I think the only problem here is that it is banned. Any time you ban something you create a black market for it. The black market is what is causing the problem, not the drug itself. Get rid of the black market by making it ok/legal, and the problems go away.
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You know who I am 07/15/2010 2:31:00 AM
Nitrous Mafia is going down hard in 2010!!!!! Cant wait to see which one of you scumbags show your ugly little head this year. So far not to many. If you see the nitrous mafia then shout your opinion of them to their face, if they try to push you around then you and your CREW push back HARD. Shoot em in the face, do what you gotta do to clear these guys off the face of the planet.
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Prince Caspian 07/15/2010 1:18:00 AM
We should murder the Nitrous Mafia like they murder Jay. fuck em. And for security, if you wanna actually be secure we need Pagans, not the faggot ass hells angels who cant regulate shit. Ever been to Camp Bisco or any show in supposed HAMC territory? well they suck. Pagans Motorcycle Club could do security but Bob Weir likes to suck hells angels dicks so we get what we have thee days. People tortured to death by some junkie over a little money. Fuck the Nitrous mafia, Kill em on site! Fuck the Hells Angels!!! See you at the vibes bitches!
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imominous 07/14/2010 9:04:00 PM
Absolutely fascinating! I had no idea.
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Horace Steenblatter 07/14/2010 1:35:00 AM
They have crazy amounts of tanks at the Fart Bar.
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RealFan 07/13/2010 7:26:00 PM
I am a vendor at these festivals and concerts... and to put in plain and simple... THESE guys are MONEY HUNGRY JUNKIE PIGS!!!!!... they are the DOWNFALL OF OUR GOOD SCENE and my opinion on the nitrous is STOP SUPPORTING THEM!!!!!!!!!! If you want nitrous...PLEASE do it at home! I know soo many people who do not come out anymore because of these guys! If they were happy hippies selling balloons for 1.00 like the old days then I could accept it more... But This is not the case... If you care about our scene and love the music then DONT GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY!!!!!!! SAY NO!! smoke a fucking joint or eat something to set you free! NITROUS= DOWNFALL OF THE SCENE.
FYI- THE GUY WHO OVERDOSED AT THE VIBES LAST YEAR WAS IRONICALLY A NITROUS DEALER WHO RAN WITH THE BOSTON AND PHILLY CREWS. SOME FRIENDS HE HAD!!
I see these assholes year after year show after show...and I am not afraid to tell them to take their shit off of Shakedown...people will find it, they always do...it is so pathetic actually to watch people running for the tanks... and what blows my mind is these people who think that the nitrous fucks are so scary and scetchy get in their line and give them 20 after 20 dollar bill!!!!!!! THIS WILL FOREVER BLOW MY MIND!!!!!!! I COULD WRITE A BEST SELLER ABOUT THIS SHIT!
As for the article mentioning The Vibes security not being able to take control of the situation BULLSHIT!!!! For the first time in years All Good finally cracked down and Mountain Jam in upstate New York was the healthiest it has ever been with not a single fucking balloon to be found! It was something else I tell you to be able to walk out on the campground at Mtn. Jam at 2 am and sit down of in the grass to smoke a bowl with your friend and not see some sketch scene going down!
PEOPLE TAKE YOUR SCENE BACK! DONT BUY BALLOONS AND THEY WONT BE THERE TO SELL THEM!
AND YOU SECURITY FUCKS AT THESE FESTS SEARCH HARDER AND DONT TAKE KICKBACKS FROM THESE ASSHOLES
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junkystripes 07/13/2010 4:35:00 AM
A friend of mine forwarded me the above article with the following note... I figure I'd relay it here -
"Nitrous as per is not dangerous. I used to sell balloons, and tanks, in my home town, and have even taken a few to a festie or two. As a matter of fact, the semester that every morning woke me up to the sound of my girl filling balloons in the closet (i'd keep 3-5 tanks at a time, no more), I'd grumble at that "nitrous monkey", then end up sucking down about 5 or more balloons, while she would do howevewr many she thought she needed. Then go to class (after my "goodMorningAmerica" shot - Methadone, ativan, xanax and adderall dissolved in a glass of crown royal whisky.) That semester I got all A's for the first time in my life, and those were far from easy classes. My secret? Vitamin B - nitrous depletes your body of Vitamin B, leading to cold extremities.
I also sold a lot of gas and tanks at shows, but only in the hotels - much safer and comfortable. For the friends back home, I'd simply ask everyone at the party for a 10-20 dollar donation, then let them have their way with the old tank.
Not gonna lie, I have ran and filled for the philly cats on one occasion, but the payout was miserly (for me)... by the way all those kids are junkies... but so am I, so no big deal.
Honestly, the way the scene is flooded with the fratboys and other posers (esp. at WSP shows), I'm glad to see these rich bastards spend their parents "hard earned money" on a joke. Myself, I've never paid for a balloon at a show, if I can't get a free one, I'd rather get a tank.
peace
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Jaybird222 07/12/2010 8:12:00 PM
N20 Sucks and so does the N20 Mafia. They are a bunch of stupid thugs who could care less about you and me or the scene. They don't care about the music and they don't even go into the shows. Stop wasting your money on someone who would just rob you if they would get away with it. Next time you come across a N20 alley chant "Nitrous nitrous kills kills your your brain brain cells cells" and watch all the dumb kids laying on the ground freak out! HAHA!! FU N20!!!
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JOHN 07/12/2010 7:31:00 AM
The first time I ever had N2O was back in the early 60's in high school! The science teacher filled up balloon's for every one in class so we would know what the effects of the gas would be when we went to the dentist. Try that in school today! Oh, and we used to handle mercury and has asbestos on the water pipes at school too. Brain dead? I'm 65 and still got 135 point IQ. go figure.
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Old head 07/11/2010 10:42:00 PM
I went to the Mann Music Center Parking lot to buy ACID...first time in 20 years...got ripped for 80$ I bought it from a ballon seller. Sure wish i read this first..Damn nothing is like it used to be.I feel stupid now Yes I do.The scene is ruined...has been since the early 90,s.Half of these people never even saw Jerry...He'd have something to say....WWJD. I am sorry The problem seems to be people like me...Looking for drugs and not going into a show..not that i don't love the music...See back when I did go in in the 80's Out of 20 people maybe 1 was a rip off artist...now 19 out of 20. There is no trust. no looking out for a fellow head.The scene got too big...and since alot of us old heads are so trusting ,we are easy prey...Not sure if i like the way things turned out...I aways believed that you cant plan Woodstock....Shit like that has to just HAPPEN...The whole beauty of improvision....If you can dig that. Sorry I acted before learning the real deal.
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Addie Corn 07/11/2010 12:22:00 AM
This has to stop! If people would only realize what they are putting into thier bodies! Wake up morons, this shit is evil!!
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Confusesus 07/10/2010 7:39:00 PM
I don't know why these festival promoters don't do what Starscape in Bmore does which is work with the cops to bust the nitrous. At overtime rates of $45 an hour it ain't hard to get a team of 8 to 12 cops to roam the grounds working for the promoter just to stop the organized feeding frenzies of nitrous. The dealers may buck up on hired security or 2 cops, but they ain't going to war with 12 officers who approach with guns drawn.
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germtheworm 07/10/2010 7:03:00 PM
Why doesn't someone just call the IRS or Treasury Department? That'll put a damper on things for sure. FBI can arrest these creeps on the spot for tax evasion. Way too much money involved in this enterprise and Obama and his crack team of spenders needs more dough.
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Lorenzo Jones 07/10/2010 7:02:00 PM
The dealers sound just like Republicans.
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Marya 07/10/2010 9:31:00 AM
A little Nitrous won't kill you. That is probably a good thing because I've never known anyone who could tolerate more than a little Nitrous.
The first hit, I'll grant you, is pretty much transcendent, every subsequent hit throughout the evening, is exponentially more of a waste of your money and your time. Until in a very short time you are handing out bills for crossed eyes and a migrane. Oh, sure there are those who don't have any more sense the common junkie, and keep hoping that this next one will be just the one to put them over the edge. But it isn't going to happen, ever. So why why bother. Have the first whip-it, put the canister down and go join the party, like a human being and not some drug frenzied idiot. You'll be so much happier the next day, and you'll be able to say "My god, last night I did the best whip-it of my life.
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chk 07/09/2010 10:33:00 PM
the time i ever encountered the nitrous dealers was a couple yrs back at a festival. there were like 20-30 of em by us. they snuck in, arrived late, wedged themselves in between tents, stole crap from everyone around them, were completely meth'd out, didn't ever sleep, fought with each other, threw people on hoods of cars, made numerous threats, and managed to get about 35 security peeps at our campsite which was when they decided to throw their nitrous in everyone else's tents. those were our neighbors for the weekend. yup. true story. i have pics. yet everyone still bought from them. wtf? next time help a chk out please.
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brian 07/09/2010 7:21:00 PM
The problem is the prohibition. Not the nature of the drug itself--it is a harmless and nonviolent high. Because it is a prohibited drug, there is a potential for big profit in a monopoly situation. The prohibition means that sellers are not able to simply pay a fee and receive protection from the security like an alcohol or tobacco vendor would. Instead we have all these harmful consequences like trying to bribe security, private security that don't follow normal rules, robberies, excessively high price because of monopoly. All because it is banned.
People who think boycotts will help are dreaming. The market will self regulate. People have short memories. The boycott would not drive out all the N2O sellers but it would drive out enough so the gas is not a big problem and people stop focusing on it. When the boycott loses steam, the sellers come roaring back.
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m 07/09/2010 7:19:00 PM
i usually go to shows to listen to the music. you can get trashed any other day of the week, so why get all out of your mind and completely miss what's happening on stage. there are way too many people at shows for the wrong reasons and can really screw up a good time for everyone else.
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Floyd 07/09/2010 5:25:00 PM
Prohibition does not work. Never has, never will.
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Zofi 07/09/2010 5:02:00 PM
Completely agree with J @ 07/08/2010 11:53:25 AM. N2O should be sold by vendors for $0.50, not $5, on grass or cushions, not concrete. Nitrous is very safe, with simple precautions. It's fun and fascinating. Laughing gas has been offered at fairs and festivals since around 1799.
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07/09/2010 1:46:00 PM
Good job, VV. You just made N02 one step closer to being illegal.
Not that NO2 is without it's dangers, I think it's arguably one of the worst drugs I ever did. But one more illegal drug is the last thing this country needs.
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theOgler 07/09/2010 5:45:00 AM
Nitrous is Nasty. I'd rather huff Locker Room.
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jennyO 07/09/2010 5:30:00 AM
Name one drug that isn't run by a organized ring. They all are, people, the heroin, ex, acid, all of it is part of a larger, greedy, vicious band of mafia type organized gangs. Have been for a long time.
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Dicky 07/09/2010 4:20:00 AM
First of all the death at Gathering was medical not N2O related in any way-No drop off, no tarp, etc. Direct from the EMT's he was found lying next to his own tent and died sitting in a chair that was next to him-All fluids had drained to his feet that showed he had been sitting up initially-------2 groups of people that were questioned had the same story-Rumors took it to a whole different place--As for N20 itself-----The problem is the Business side which creates greed and then violence-People will always do crap that is not necessarily bright but the violence that come with organized selling has got to be addressed in some way-it absolutely is putting a down vibe to the scene.
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josh42042 07/09/2010 3:22:00 AM
At a phish show in Camden years ago, security had confiscated several large tanks and were driving them away in a pickup truck. but the truck drove right down shakedown street, got caught up in foot traffic, and a bunch of guys jumped in the truck bed and threw the tanks over the side, and made off with them.
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kristin 07/09/2010 1:10:00 AM
like the article, although i think its a bit overdramatic.
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Rocky 07/08/2010 11:55:00 PM
Huffing nitrous more or less simulates a stroke. I can't see the attraction.
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Timmy 07/08/2010 10:08:00 PM
Amen, I'm glad someone finally put this out on the table. If you wanna do nitrous @ a festi, go out and buy the little crackers and bring your own balloons. Like the article said, its totally legal for you to buy and posses nitrous and its pretty damn easy to find to. These thugs completely ruin the scene. There not their to enjoy the music and be apart of the art and good vibes like the rest of you, their there to make their buck, and they dont give a fuck how they do it. Anyone whose going into a festival with guns, knives, and bats and intends on using them dosent belong there, or anywhere. Take that shit back to the hole you crawled out of. These people try to defend themselves like their not bad people and their just trying to support a family, but thats pretty much the same story you'd get from a heroin dealer. Does that make it right? Absolutely not. I was @ the Vibes in '09 and was unfortunately forced to camp on nitrous alley. Needless to say, I left a day early and will not be attending that festival ever again. They smashed up a guys car down the way cause he wouldnt let them sell nitrous out front of his campsite, the guy had his wife and 2 small children with him and had nothing to do with nitrous or drug activities of any kind. He was there to enjoy a nice weekend of great music with his family and these CRIMINALS destroyed that for a few quick scummy dollars. I recently attended Nateva up in Maine, and I didn't hear one tank all weekend. It was a beautiful, beautiful thing and i had an amazing weekend without doing one balloon. SHOCKING. Don't get me wrong, balloons are definitely fun and I'm not gonna deny that when i first encountered them, I bought some and had my fun. But once I saw what was going on, and realized what these people were really doing, I stopped buying balloons from them and i encourage all my friends to do the same. Balloons are fun, they can have their small place in the festi scene, but this nitrous mafia shit needs to end. If you wanna do balloons, get a tank for headstash with a bunch of your friends or go buy canisters, but feeding this criminal enterprise will only lead to more violence and the potential shut down of these events. Remember, the harder security has to be on nitrous, the harder they have to be on everyone else. If you want to be able to go to a festi and enjoy the weekend without having sketchy convicted criminals hanging outside your campsite all day and night, violence, and cops and security swarming everywhere, then DONT BUY NITROUS!! If your there for the right reasons, its quite easy to do the right thing.
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Yonkers Rob 07/08/2010 8:13:00 PM
**Mis-Print**
The article state that the inaugural GOTVibes? festival that was held at Bridgeport, CT was in 2000 (I was there -- it was great -- 10 years later and I still have the kick ass bong I bought at it:). But the first time the festival was held in Bridgeport was in 1999. (You can see all the dates and venues on Wikipedia).
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larry 07/08/2010 11:43:00 AM
haha this story makes me laugh it makes the jamband scene sound so much more dramatic than it really is, lolz golden girls'd
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larry 07/08/2010 11:38:00 AM
who the f brings a baby to a fest, people, leave ur fing babies home.
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Elliot 07/08/2010 10:56:00 AM
Grate Article!!...Fuck N20...Its ruining the scene..if someone duznt bust em' "the.N20.mafia" KARMA WILL...
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Biscuts are to blame 07/08/2010 10:40:00 AM
Nitrous is a sit down sport.
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B 07/08/2010 10:37:00 AM
People should be able to put what they want into their own body. However, with such wrecklessness and violence, the Nitrous Mafia should be stopped. These actions do not show any trance of morality. I commend those who have gone by a code of honor. Put a stop to the violence. On the other hand, good job on dodging the man...... No more hitting people with tanks, no more knifes, no more guns, and no more disrespect for the common man!
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FKN2O 07/08/2010 10:03:00 AM
to D..the great went was a loong time ago and it is sad but things have changed greatly since then.....its like a new breed out there. they are no good dirty thieves and they dont belong. Even going back to the late 90's N2O at shows was still just random harmless Heads that knew a dentist! I was used to being awaken in the am to hissing tanks at dead shows. those people were somewhat different back then, these people today scare the crap out of me. I keep saying im all done but the music keeps me sucked in to the festivals. its a sad situation. BRING BACK THE HELLS ANGELS TO BRIDGEPORT!!
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Chris 07/08/2010 6:34:00 AM
To Harry Hood:
The dead guy was found on the last day of the Vibes, so the whole "why would they kill someone and lose a bunch of money" doesn't hold water. The N2O mafia had been selling a disgusting amount of gas all weekend... you couldn't even see the pavement around "nitrous alley" because it was covered a half-inch deep in empty balloons. I watched Bridgeport Police cars sitting and watching those nitrous boys operate all weekend... never lifting one finger to do anything about it. The N20 mafia made so much money at that festival that leaving a dead body and bailing on the last day wouldn't really cut into their profit margin.
While I agree that dope is more destructive than nitrous, there are way more people huffing gas at these festivals than there are shooting up H. So overall, I would say that the nitrous dealers have a more overall negative impact than the dope dealers. Have you ever seen someone turn blue from huffing too much gas? That is a much more common sight at a jam festival than someone nodding out from heroin. I am definitely not advocating for heroin use, but I am saying that nitrous is not as harmless as you try to make it out to be. N20 ruins the scene, straight up, and it's time people said enough is enough.
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harry hood 07/08/2010 6:02:00 AM
dope is doing far more damage to us than tanks. anyone who knows the mob knows they wouldnt drop a body at a fest they were working(im not talking about claiming to know them im talking about actually knowing them. these stupid "oh he got hit in the head with at tank" someone who has clearly never picked up tank before you would have be way bigger than the dudes who run tanks on lot for this). why would they drop a body on lot everyone is scared of them already they dont need to make that statement. and after that body dropped they could no longer sell gas that weekend so where is motivation i know these dudes they get violent but droping a body at a fest is fucking stupid and anyone who is making as much cash as they do isnt dumb greedy yes not nice people in general yes not hippies yes but dumb they are not. Im not saying they would kill someone im just saying they wouldnt do it at festival and if they did i think they would leave with the body. Did any of you ever think this is a fest in Bridgeport CT its pretty hood i think its far more likely that some locals did this then dumped it there to hide what went down. how about talking about the H dealers that cause the ODs at every fest ive ever been to and i ve been to my share of them. yeah guys the bikers have it right keep doing Dope and stop the tanks great idea. and the bikers are the worst security on the scene hands down gas and greedy people are part of the this and always will be so quit your bitching and dance or stop coming so i dont have to listen to it
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Ara Crittenden 07/08/2010 4:53:00 AM
I only sells the gas at them there WIDESPREAD PANIC concerts because them fans are dumb as dirt and pays 10 bucks for a single baloon$$$
I have tried to listen to that WIDESPREAD PANIC and to be honest the only way I can listen to that crap is if I am high on the N20
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t 07/08/2010 4:18:00 AM
ANOTHER THING. If they all got beaten down at EVERY event they attended, and NO ONE bought their product. They would have no choice but to be gone, looking for other ways to make money elsewhere. Get pics of these folks and plaster the internet with them. Get ALL of your friends to spread it on. Any time you see them ANYWHERE, catch a charge beating them down. Don't catch a murder rap, but make a scumbag bleed! (Don't get the blood on you tho, who knows what a scumbag will lie down with) Just my thoughts anyway. Money talks, but BS crawls away when forced to do so. If "allowed" to that is...
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t 07/08/2010 4:07:00 AM
I wasn't there. I DO know first hand from people there that also saw it, the guy wrapped in the tarp had a tank opened up inside the tarp with him. That WAS the cause of death. It crushed his skull from the force. The bruises were from him getting beaten up. This horrible act was over less that $3000 in accrued debt to the nitrous mafia... It makes me sick to think that these guys make enough money to buy off whomever they have to and make more money than most all doctors and lawyers out there... The scene I so love is getting taken over by money hungry thugs with no sympathy or remorse for their actions or the people they hurt in their conquests. Where has all the love gone? When it all get too far out of hand, where will all of the loving "hippies" go to have fun? It is going to be spoiled for us all if we don't change some things. I like going to festivals!! Do you??? It just takes a unified force...
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MK 07/08/2010 4:01:00 AM
I'm sorry, but I've never heard the term "hippie crack" applied to whippets. I've always heard it in reference to THC crystals, a.k.a. keef.
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Chris 07/08/2010 1:19:00 AM
In reference to the death at the Gathering of the Vibes last year, the "drug overdose" story that the police gave was a total cover-up. I was camped less than 100ft away from where the body was found, and I was one of maybe a dozen people who saw the exposed corpse before the police and coroner arrived. The body was found wrapped up in a tarp near a tent (do people overdosing on drugs wrap themselves up in a tarp? I think not... quite obvious that the body was covered up and left there). The man was covered in bruises and burns... it was really grotesque. One of the people camped near me said he saw a green Saturn with Pennsylvania tags peel away in great haste from that spot about an hour before the body was discovered. When security and police arrived, they put out an all-points bulletin for the car matching that description. I'm no detective, but the "toxicology report" sounds like a complete whitewash of what really happened. There are too many fishy aspects to what happened that I am convinced that the Bridgeport Police and festival security were a.) complicit with the nitrous dealers, looking the other way, or b.) unable to control the nitrous trade, so they made up a fake cause of death to prevent bad publicity for the festival and the city of Bridgeport. I am convinced, as a first-hand witness to the dead body, that the man was indeed murdered, most likely by the nitrous scumbags. Do you really believe everything "the Man" tells you? The nitrous mafia (especially the ones from Philly) is an evil, violent, greedy group of criminals. They are the antithesis of what hippie jam-band festivals are supposed to be about, and its about time that people stand up to them and not tolerate their shenanigans. If the police and security can't control them, then festival people need to take a stand themselves and band together. They cannot kill us all, there is strength in numbers. Remember, if you buy gas from these guys, you are supporting a violent criminal organization.
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EnoughISenough 07/08/2010 12:58:00 AM
SO if Phish patrolled their shows back in the day to keep this out, they you need to reinstate that. I think every band needs to take a stand and patrol this out of the scene. It's EVIL.
That's great that Camp Bisco is nitrous free these days....they need to apply that same mentality to their shows.
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L bitch A 07/08/2010 12:52:00 AM
awesome article gRaTe way of opening up these peoples eyes to show the pure evilness in it. It used to be straight for PHUN but these PEOPLE THAT SELL BALLONS ARE STRAIGHT DEGENERATES AND DIRTBAGS! simply ridiculous! this is why I cant bring the neice and nephew with me on festies cuz of drug-induced idiots...and only to make the almighty dirty dollar!
do you people feel better about yourselves when you see the people you are selling to falling and passing out on the grounds because they cannot get air.....
fucking lowlives....at least sell something good. I WISH I COULD SEE one of your bitch asses come to cleveland so i could whoop your ass! you are ruining the scene move on!
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scott 07/08/2010 12:23:00 AM
hippy crack is another name for the crystals that people save from marijuana, i have never heard it used for dinitriusoxide
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johnny boy 07/08/2010 12:06:00 AM
crispy u better watch the pussy you eating because ur bound to catch something from them ugly ass hood rat bitches...take it all into ur own hands they got 6 ppl u get 10 and take their money and their tanks like they do to everyone else
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bonghitwillie 07/08/2010 12:01:00 AM
looks like all festivals need to hire the hell's angels as security.
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CommonSense 07/07/2010 11:53:00 PM
The only way to regulate this problem is to STOP BUYING BALLOONS! The problem exists because the demand is so high. Look, I have no problem with the substance...if you want to buy a pack of cartridges and hit em at your hotel, that's fine with me. But we have to stop supporting these goons, that's the only way they'll leave. I'm against being preachy so I hesitate to say anything to the throngs of folks lined up at the tanks, but perhaps simply educating some friends and aquaintances who don't know any better about where there money is going to may help. The Dead scene in the early days was all about showing the ways of tour to the young/new fans...we should start making it known to folks that the 30 second buzz is not worth the ultimately devastating effect on the scene. If you buy it, they will come.
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Jersey 07/07/2010 11:52:00 PM
It can be a harmful substance if abused obviously. Sorry to see that it is taking over the scene. I've bought in the past, had one before a show, one after...I saw it as a dessert, you have your fun, and that's it, put it down. Hell, I'd pay more money to suck helium...with that you actually laugh for good reason.
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D 07/07/2010 11:41:00 PM
Years ago I was on the team responsible for confiscating the nitrous tanks at a Phish show called the Great Went in Limestone, Maine. At the time, it was the only substance Phish actively wanted patrolled, I believe this was due to a death of a fan at a previous show. I worked as part of a 4 man crew, two spotters, and two state police. My job was to listen for the hiss, call in the state police and confiscate the tank. Notice that I mention that I had police backup. We confiscated over 200 tanks of varying sizes over the 2 day period. I remember a particularly crafty group of individuals in a series of U-Haul vans in the corner of the camp ground who eventually got a tank confiscated after a day and a half of cat and mouse games. I didn't run into any violence or even notion of violence when doing my job at the time. Obviously things change, but I think this article give the "Mafia" too much credit. If 4 people can confiscate 100 tanks a day over a weekend, imagine what 4 teams of people could do. I guess what the article really points out is that the police do not devote any time to the cause. At the time I was working the show, catching people was pretty damn easy, I just walked up to them, flashed the flashlight in their eyes and the transaction was done. I can't imagine that it is any different these days. Just because it appears they are organized doesn't mean they are any smarted the the people I dealt with back then.
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crispy 07/07/2010 11:34:00 PM
man yall niggas dont kno shit bout the mafia. mad money mad pussy mad drugs we get all the pretty laties evry day erry nite. the amount of pussy im eating is incomparable to u faggot ass tricks.