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As Polls Go Against the Mosque, Bloomberg Preaches Religious Liberty

The Mayor stands tall

Mike Bloomberg did a brave and good deed for this city last week, one for which he's due a round of applause, especially from those of us who mainly throw bricks his way.

He picked a fight where all his billions are of no help, and where a politician who still harbors White House dreams can do himself no obvious good. On the morning of August 3, a Tuesday, he summoned the press and took the little white ferry across the channel from Battery Park to Governors Island so that he could use the city's greatest visual prop as his sole protective cover.

With the bay's rippling water and the Statue of Liberty behind him, he gave us a 15-minute refresher course in a crucial piece of local history that gets talked about only in classrooms and walking tours. He had come to the tiny island, the first home of New Amsterdam's European settlers, he said, to remind us that this was where "the seeds of religious tolerance were first planted."

We don't always get along in the immigrant city they started, he said, but mutual respect and tolerance are the key ingredients that make New York work: "It was exactly that spirit of openness and acceptance that was attacked on 9/11," he said. "Of all our precious freedoms," he continued, "the most important may be the freedom to worship as we wish."

That freedom, Bloomberg added, "was hard-won over many years." He cited Dutch governor Peter Stuyvesant's rejection of a petition by the city's first Jews to build a synagogue, and his prohibition against Quaker meetings of worship. He invoked one of the city's proudest documents, one mentioned so rarely that even he had trouble pronouncing it. That was the "Flushing Remonstrance," a declaration in 1657 by local neighbors of the Quakers in which they refused to enforce Stuyvesant's ban. "Wee are bounde by the law to do good unto all men," they wrote, "especially to those of the household of faith."

The same principle, the mayor said, commanded him to support the right of Muslims to create a mosque on property they've purchased on Park Place, even though it is a short two blocks from the World Trade Center site where fanatics killed almost 3,000 of us, invoking Allah's name as they did so.

"We would betray our values—and play into our enemies' hands," he said, "if we were to treat Muslims differently than anyone else. In fact, to cave to popular sentiment would be to hand a victory to the terrorists—and we should not stand for that."

The mayor has been making remarks along these lines since May, when the storm around the mosque started kicking up dust. "The first time it was raised, I'm not even sure we'd anticipated the question," said Howard Wolfson, Bloomberg's political deputy. "His reaction was just from the gut. He was very unequivocal in his views on it."

The questions kept coming. "He's been asked about it several times a week, every week, for two and a half months," said Stu Loeser, the mayor's press secretary. Last month, Bloomberg asked Wolfson, Loeser, and City Hall aide Frank Barry to come up with a speech and a place to give it. "He had points he wanted to make that he thought were being lost in the debate," said Loeser.

Part of the goal was to place the dispute in the context of the city's history. "He said he thinks this is as big an issue of religious freedom as we are likely to confront in our time," said Wolfson.

Bloomberg tinkered with the words right up until he spoke. "He looked at the speech again Tuesday morning," said Loeser. "He said, 'I think there is something missing.' " The mayor then added the lines about the rescuers who rushed into the burning towers on 9/11: "Not one of them asked, 'What God do you pray to? What beliefs do you hold?' We do not honor their lives by denying the very Constitutional rights they died protecting." "That was his last add," said Loeser. "Then he said, 'All right, let's go.' "

At the event, Bloomberg's plea for tolerance was echoed by Council Speaker Christine Quinn and a clutch of religious leaders. Normally, such appeals are no big political lift. This one was different. On Thursday morning, a Siena College poll was released showing that statewide, New Yorkers oppose the mosque by more than a two-to-one ratio. Even in Bloomberg's own city, the poll found opponents in overwhelming majority, 56 percent to 33 percent.

The Republican candidates for governor are so delighted that they have made the mosque their entire campaigns. Rick Lazio's website opens with a black-and-white banner asking viewers to "Defend New York" by demanding that attorney general and Democratic nominee Andrew Cuomo—a consistent, if quieter, project supporter—investigate the mosque's finances. Carl Paladino, the upstate millionaire and Tea Party favorite, unveiled a new TV ad last week calling the mosque "a monument to those who attacked our country."

Actually, on the morning of September 11, the man accused of wanting to build a shrine to terrorism, a 37-year-old real estate developer from Brooklyn, was racing toward the scene of the attack. Sharif El-Gamal was having breakfast at a diner on the Upper East Side when he looked up from his eggs to see the second plane strike the towers on TV. "I thought I was watching a movie," he said. He began running downtown. "I ran through crowds of people running in the opposite direction. I wanted to see what happened to my city. I wanted to help."

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  • Tom 10/27/2010 11:31:00 PM

    As the author, Tom E Robbins would ask: How long would it take a monkey with a wooden leg to kick the seeds out of dill pickle? (reference: approximate quote -- "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues")

  • Tom 10/27/2010 11:31:00 PM

    As the author, Tom E Robbins would ask: How long would it take a monkey with a wooden leg to kick the seeds out of dill pickle? (reference: approximate quote -- "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues")

  • Winona 09/11/2010 11:22:00 PM

    On an NPR program this morning, Mayor Bloomberg referred to those who opposed the building of the mosque as "a few hotheads." Mr. Bloomberg needs to rethink his contexts...so let me see 70% of Americans (according to some polls) are against the mosque..."a few hotheads"??? I think not. His comment smacks of the "elitist dismissal" those who dare to oppose liberal rhetoric face on a daily basis. We the People (70% of us) do not appreciate the patronizing/paternalistic tone of most of the media and much of our folks in leadership positions. And 100% of "We the Thinkers" would appreciate being given the benefit of the doubt (that we may just have some intellectual processes going for us). There is an old Jesuit (forgive the imposition of a religious reference) addage that guides argument---"Never deny, seldom affirm, but always distinguish". What happened to respectful and critical debate in our country? We have shamelessly biased news agencies who front the same voices over and over and over in tiresome and simplistic contexts (facetime with every disaster on earth) and others that claim to be out the "spin zone". The spin zone at this point is overcrowded with both sides clawing for elitist positioning. I am sick of "slick and thoughtless journalism" that continues to expect accolades for "keeping them honest." Both sides need a good old-fashioned reality check, courtesy of the American People who continue to be silenced and overwhelmed by "the few" who speak for "the all".

  • K Bowerygals 09/03/2010 8:30:00 PM

    It would be useful for those opposed to siting this Islamic Center to read our history. So much of what is said is an echo of some of the most sordid episodes in our past. Do you really want to channel the sentiments of the persecutors of Japanese Heritage USers during World War II, or the intolerance of Quakers by early Dutch authorities, or McCarthy, or the mobs that demanded the deaths of Sacco and Vanzetti, or the businesses that proudly displayed the "No Irish Need Apply" signs, or Jim Crow laws, or those covenants that banned Jews from living in certain areas? And please don't delude yourselves that this group (Muslims) are more worthy of suspicion than those from immigrant groups of the past - like your family. Your ancestors (even if they were purely of Native descent) were hated and feared with the same fierceness. We shame our people's history of struggle if we jump on this bandwagon. Politicians with no regard for the cost of campaigns such as these need to be roundly rebutted. And the idea that they should just move it a little further away is just as offensive as saying it shouldn't be allowed. As if this religion is somehow less worthy than Judeo-Christian ones to be near this ground which is hallowed- not just by the deaths of Christians and Jews. And need we be reminded of some of the vicious attacks done in the name of those religions? You don't practice religious freedom when and where it meets with everyones approval. You just practice it. At what point do you begin to wonder if you aren't being manipulated, as all those in our history were, the better to divide and conquer working people from one another?

  • bobby 08/29/2010 7:38:00 AM

    I dont like muslims, they are badest and intolerant people, after killing many Americans in name of islam, now we are allowing them to build a mosque, this is worst kind of insult for brave Americans who lost there lives in 9/11. New York should show respect for the people who show kindness not to terrorist islam, totally disgusting. All muslims were partying praying when twin towers went down and we are apleasing them with a mosque wonderfull speaks volume of the state of great nation of America.

  • steve 08/19/2010 7:09:00 AM

    The only problem mayor bloomberg is that the muslims don't want to be americans with the same zeal for lack of a better word as the original immigrant groups and there is a lot subtle animosity from muslims towards other groups even if its decided silence which can be interpreted as agreement with the terrorist factions of muslims and also a problem is that the major terrorists everywhere just happen to be muslim. This mosque can be construed as a victory over americans by them and consequently it is insensitive for the so called peaceful muslims to go along with that. Why if they have such peaceful intentions are they so set on rubbing salt into the wounds of other americans. Why are they seeming to set themselves up for contention. Why there? Religious freedom should be allowed for all as sensitivity addressed. steve jaubert

  • Thomas 08/17/2010 7:04:00 AM

    It is dangerous to be a Muslim woman or girl. How are you people so accepting of this theocracy that offers women no safety, no right even to education? It's a sad day when people are so afraid to offend, so desperate to be cool you will look away from so called religious practices that are equal to criminal acts. It is dangerous to be a Muslim woman or girl. Idiots.

  • Count 08/16/2010 10:45:00 AM

    Bloomberg is nothing more than a hypocrite and a coward. If you're going to preach about supporting the constitution then support it fully or don't at all. How does Bloomy feel about the 2nd amendment? Perhaps he should practice what he preaches....I'd spit in his face given the chance.

  • Beth Stout 08/16/2010 6:48:00 AM

    We just returned from a visit to NYC - where I was born & lived until I graduated from CCNY - in 1973. I love New York, I'm fascinated with its history and enjoy every minute I get to spend there. I fully support Mayor Bloomberg and President Obama regarding the mosque. The first amendment in in the Bill of Rights is about our freedom of religion. Ground Zero is hallowed ground - we need to honor it and those who died there by honoring our own history and living up to it.

  • tim maguire 08/16/2010 1:48:00 AM

    It's a shame to see the Voice congratulating Bloomberg for attacking a straw man. A vast majority of the opponents of the Mosque fully recognize the right of a group to open a mosque there. The argument is not that they should not be allowed to, the argument is that they should not (for a group that claims to preach cross-cultural sensitivity, they have acted with great insensitivity). Bloomberg claims good Americans value religious freedom. True enough, but good Americans also understand the difference between what you should not do and what you should not be able to do. This is not an issue of religious freedom, however convenient small minded people like Bloomberg may find it to so characterize. But I'm not surprised at Bloomberg, I am surprised at the Voice.

  • Rose 08/15/2010 11:57:00 PM

    Cheers to this article! New York is arguably the city of the world. If we allow intolerance here, what else is left for the rest of the world and its future? Bloomberg deserves much respect for speaking so ardently, considering how delicate of a subject religion has always been. He has spoken quite beautifully and is simply spreading a word of peace. Building a mosque near ground zero is in no way, shape, or form speaking against the city's wellbeing, nor is it ignoring the past events that hurt our home. If anything, it would reflect the strength and valor of New York and its inhabitants. It is a true sign of humble perseverance to be able to grow past the events of 9/11 and show respect for the Islamic population (as we should do with any religion or culture). Unfortunately, ignorance plagues the minds of many in equating all Muslims with terror. They are a culture worthy of respect too: that they have bad apples, as do every other social group, is not a justification for such harsh treatment towards the religion and its followers as a whole. The same way that we elected our first black president, New York should take honorable steps such as this mosque and hope that the rest of the world follows. It is incredibly sad that a country once built to get away from religious intolerance, now houses people who exercise such narrow minded views.

  • 08/15/2010 10:37:00 PM

    The mosque is a test. It has nothing to do with religious liberty, and everything to do with testing liberal America's willingness to recognize a threat when it's presented with one. Remember; the mosque is a test.

  • Gerald Williams 08/15/2010 8:41:00 PM

    The debate about the Islamic cultural center in New York City has been thick and heavy with passionate language, according to what is projected in the news media. There are strong feelings on both sides of the issue. For one side the project symbolizes a slap in the face of the the men and women who died in the 911 attacks on America by radical extremist members of the Islamic faith. On the other side, though, are those who believe that the building will represent peace and reconciliation and will be a place for people to pray and engage in social and recreational activities. The Islamic center will probably be constructed, despite the opposition, and may stand for many years as a testament to the strength of the U.S. Constitution and the right of freedom of religion. Moreover, it will probably be a huge tourist attraction and the debate will be over. 600 miles to the South in Columbia South Carolina a similar, mostly muted, controversy exists, but one which is much more deeply etched into the DNA of this country than the mosque issue ever will be. For some people the Confederate flag basically represents their Southern heritage and their resistance to the North telling them what to do, and their feeling that it should fly prominently on the Statehouse grounds. For others, however, the flag is, and will always be a symbol of the near destruction of the entire country, the deaths and wounding of more Americans than in all of her wars of the 20th Century combined, and the brutal and inhumane treatment and terrorizing of African-Americans for three centuries. It is there, smack dab in the front gate as a perpetual reminder to many of a greater, and more enduring horror inflicted upon citizens of this nation by fellow Americans, than that perpetrated by some misguided foreign criminals, who likewise, were intent on the destruction of this nation. Where the New York Islamic center seems to be tied largely to the availability of real estate in an already congested area of Manhattan that just happens to be close to the World Trade Center, the Confederate flag in front of the Statehouse still seems to be tied to the continued defiance, resistance, and the rebellious spirit it has been imbued with by many of its supporters. Freedom of religion and the right to own real estate for religious practices is not involved in Columbia. In New York their Landmark commission voted against preserving a nondescript building as a landmark, enabling the Islamic community to buy private property and to build their mosque. In Columbia, on the other hand, politicians of the majority party voted first to fly the flag temporarily on the dome of the Statehouse as part of a 1962 centennial celebration of the founding of the Confederacy, and the state's complicity in breaking from the Union; then voted to keep it there to show objection to the civil rights movement; and, lastly in 1999, under pressure, compromised, for the good of the state, by placing it where it now stands in front, on public property owned by the people of the state. The majority of politicians in Columbia, not the majority of people, voted on a moral issue. What is strikingly ironic is that some prominent national leaders, one a recent presidential candidate, have been very vocal in their opposition to the mosque on grounds that it is morally reprehensible, while at the same time are mute about the flag as representing something just as immoral, if not more, and with longer lasting residual affects than the attacks on 9/11. The supporters of the mosque claim that it will exist as part of an effort to reach out to heal the pain of the tragedy at ground zero. The supporters of the flag, however, just want their flag to fly and for everybody else to just get over their objections. It has not, and probably never will, served to reach out to heal anything. In New York the Cordoba Institute, as the mosque is officially named, will probably generate bucket loads of revenue from sightseers. In Columbia some, sightseers at the Statehouse may view the flag and ask, as some residents do “why is it there, and what if it were not there?” Nevertheless, it continues to be a Columbia sized bread and butter issue with respect to income lost, as some important entities refuse to hold events in the city as long as the flag flies. If the NCAA still continues to support the NAACP boycott, some major post season college championships will not be held there. The debate about the flag will go on long after Muslims are praying in their mosque in new york, or until a decision has been made by the people in this state that something needs to be put to rest.

  • Nancy 08/14/2010 11:39:00 PM

    DO YOU REALLY THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. SHAME ON YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN GOD AND KEEPS TRYING TO BRING DOWN AMERICA WHAT WOULD OUR FOUR FATHERS SAY ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE LET HAPPING IN THIS ONCE GREAT NATION???????GOD HELP PROTECT US.

  • Sean Mulligan 08/14/2010 8:07:00 PM

    Their aren't any legitimate questions about the planned mosque or community center or any reason to be wary of Iman Rauf. He is a moderate Muslim who has condemned Al-Qaida and is a strong supporter of the United States and Democracy.http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2008432,00.html

  • Mike 08/14/2010 6:57:00 PM

    Some liberal you are Robbins so why don't you leave the Voice and apply for a job at the Daily News in which all they do is suck Bloomberg's tiny little pecker? He's pretty much picked up where Bin Laden left off which is putting New Yorkers in danger and taking away out landmarks and our culture. It's no surprise he supports the mosque plan because he too is a terrorist.

  • Frederick 08/14/2010 2:05:00 PM

    Are you kidding me? Is everyone out of their minds? Doesn't everyone know the doctrines of the Muslim world yet? Their credo is to violently obliterate all who do not assimilate or believe in Islam. This is a direct contradiction to freedom!!! Ground Zero is proof!! These terrorists have lost their rights in the free land of America. We the people have the freedom to oppose and abolish terrorism. Building a Mosque anywhere near Ground Zero is a terrorist action! Wake up people. If you let this happen America will no longer be the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. Be Brave again and do not let this monstrosity be built in honor of terror.

  • madge halpern 08/14/2010 2:02:00 AM

    There is no question in my mind that if existing law permits a Moslem center near the WTC site, then it can be built. However, I am against it. Years ago, nuns gave up their right to build a convent next to Auschwitz because, in the end, they were sensitive enough to the Jewish slaughter there that they recognized a convent would diminish the memory of the Final Solution. This, some 50 years later. Where is Moslem sensitivity to the hideous attack at the WTC? To the thousands killed there? To the trauma inflicted on American and NY hearts, souls and their lives? And not even a decade has passed. Yeah, they have freedom of religion, too. And they are utterly insensitive and uncaring to the psyche of New Yorkers. If this were a ballgame, I'd booh them loudly and often.

  • jimmy 08/14/2010 12:09:00 AM

    Nothing constructive will come of this. Bloomberg doesn't care about our freedom of religion any more than he cares about our freedom of assembly. He has not made good on any of the promises he has made to New Yorkers over all these years, not even regarding a memorial to the victims of 9-11. Nine years we've waited, and now Bloomberg is falling all over himself about...what? I hope my muslim friends don't suffer even more bashing because our narcissistic mayor simply doesn't have the common sense that god gave geese.

  • Russ Smith 08/13/2010 6:07:00 PM

    Sadly, this morning's NY Daily News carries the story that UFT newspaper writer Jim Callaghan, the author of blog post # 10 in response to Tom Robbin's column has been fired. Jim is a stormy petrol and the anger in his VV text is very powerful. His years as a community activist on Staten Island on behalf of progressive causes are well documented. While the UFT cites other reasons, I can't help but wonder if the vehemence of his post might have played a role in his dismissal. He certainly threw caution to the wind and put it out there like he saw it. I can only wish him well.

  • David Chowes 08/13/2010 4:55:00 AM

    Mayor Bloomberg was right on!

  • Thomas 08/13/2010 4:43:00 AM

    I would like to see proof of Sharif's service to firefighters and I'd like to see proof of the hospital visit. Tom Robbins you have always been a schmuck and never know the right angle on a story...whether it's told by you or to you. Bloombergs true colors as manager and not a leader have never been more clear.

  • Russ Smith 08/12/2010 6:20:00 AM

    The comments in the Village Voice blogosphere are so far running about two to one against the idea of a Mosque at Ground Zero. The fate of the "Flushing Remonstance" may resonate for the future of this project. Under pressure from Peter Stuyvesant the 30 signatories promptly recanted their position taken in 1657, to allow Quaker worship. It was not until the Quaker John Bowne, expelled by Stuyvesant from Flushing in 1663, travelled to Amsterdam to appeal the decision that the Governor General was ordered by his superiors to permit religious toleration in New Amsterdam, Flushing and other areas of Dutch settlement soon to yield to the English in 1664.

  • jim callaghan 08/12/2010 5:52:00 AM

    Too bad the mayor didnt give his bullshit speech in STaten Island, where efforts to build a mosque in a former CAtholic school convent were met with the same vitriol as the Lower Manhattan deal. He can't do it becasue in his other, closeted life- far away from the Manhattan press- he is the champion of intolerance. This is the mayor, after all, who had the chutzpah and bad taste to name a STaten Island ferryboat after former Staten Island congressman and Borough Prsdient Guy Molinari, who said Karen Burstein was not fit to be Atttorney General because she is a lesbian-without one word of protest from Deputy Mayor Quinn or any other gay or lesbian (or straight or bi) elected officials. Molinari- who was partners in a real estate deal with a big time gangster named John DiLeo, also callled David Dinkins a "son of a bitch" in March 1990 in the N.Y. Post and said he doubted if Dinkins was ever in the Marines! In the past few weeks, ten Mexicans have been attacked by black thugs on Staten Island, a gay couple was bashed at a White Castle and Bloomberg pretends nothing is happening. He is in bed with the worst homophobes, the right wing Republicans on Staten Island, and now wants us to believe him when he gives a speech-written by some press flak- about tolerance? For Real? Oh, did I mention the Jew-hater Lenora Fulani- another Bloomberg pal from the "Independence" Party?

  • Joy 08/12/2010 12:44:00 AM

    I think Mayor Bloomberg did a very brave thing!!!! I agree with him.

  • Suzannah B. Troy 08/11/2010 10:05:00 PM

    Hey Tom! Great news! There is going to be a wonderful gay bar next to the location of the future Mosque. You guy wants to model himself after the Jewish community than he must be aware we have a big gay community! I believe in religious freedom and tolerance and I am wondering if you want to reach out and heal great but it seems like there is a lot of pain and upset no healing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgTwGyCsxk0 Here is my YouTube that address previous questions you have asked Tom about Bloomberg and here is proof you are not alone. I am asking for a trial and wondering if he gets to walk like Naomi Campbell does...away, away she goes from any accountability to party hearty - back to the run way she goes....

  • Ed Kollin 08/11/2010 9:48:00 PM

    How do we know this guy is the moderate he says he or he is a the moderate he says he is but is being used? This deal smells. It is not Islamic Phobic be weary of a guy who is purposely vague about how the project is being funded. Newsday has reported the State Department (us taxpayers) is financing his trip abroad. So apparently the Inam has friends in high places so Bloomberg’s defense might not be so altruistic. Maybe the rightbloogers are right about the hidden Jihidist plot angle or maybe they are wrong and this is an old fashioned corrupt New York land deal and maybe it’s the innocent “we are the world” the Inam claims it is. Apparently we will not find answers to these legitimate questions because the Village Voice and this reporter will not do what the publication has been doing for more than 50 years and be all over any land deal that looks fishy because there is a bigger cause and this deal tweaks tea party, rightbloogger types. By the way Tom speaking of overlooking the details for a bigger cause does 2003 Iraq Invasion ring a bell?

  • herschel 08/11/2010 9:25:00 PM

    yes thank you rabbi bloomberg. as you may remember he was also alright with rabbis sucking the penis of infants after circumcision, even the one that died from herpes. freedom of religion. i am sure he will be fine with mandatory burqas, sharia, and female circumcision as well. after all it is the right to worship that makes this country great.

  • tim 08/11/2010 9:00:00 PM

    bloomberg took the lazy way out. instead of standing up to an obvious provocative act, he doesn't want any controversy on his watch, so he just rubber stamped this w/o considering the consequences. shame on him.

  • mecca mecca heine ho 08/11/2010 5:25:00 PM

    since the village voice has long stood for porn and piss christ art, be sure not to censor I SHIT ON ISLAM!

  • Ted Steingut 08/11/2010 4:17:00 PM

    Right on Tom and Bloomie -- thanks for fighting for liberty and freedom

  • J 08/11/2010 8:34:00 AM

    And don't tell me that's not where the plane crashed, the landing gear of the jet fell through the roof and destroyed the interior of the Burlington Coat Factory building.

  • J 08/11/2010 8:29:00 AM

    A group of douchebag Muslims want to build a mosque where a group of douchebag Muslims crashed a plane a few years ago and they have every right to do so, this is America, not a Muslim country. The fact Muslims can build a mosque near Ground Zero tells you everything you need to know about America. The fact Muslims are building a mosque right near Ground Zero tells you everything you need to know about Islam. Imam Raouf's statements about terrorism and his general shadiness creep me out but I'll defend his right to say them.

 

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