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02/27/2011 6:38:00 PM
Are Your Crime Stats Accurate? The Records Room newsletter is a great resource on this topic. http://tinyurl.com/4ham3ws
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Stourley Kracklite 09/19/2010 7:49:00 AM
The Schoolcraft recordings show that police quotas for tickets institutionalizes abuse and that police oversight is nothing more than damage control. One must assume that the 81st Precinct is not the exception, but the rule.
The question is not how Kelly handles this case but how Kelly changes the culture. Or is Kelly the culture?
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matt 09/19/2010 12:43:00 AM
Just heard about this on This American Life... completely stunned....
As others have noted, could federal level charges be brought to bear on this as well?
Considering the tapes, the city should hope to settle for 10-15mil and consider itself lucky. What about class action status for many of the Bed-Sty residents falsely detained... Yikes!
Geez, a relentless cesspool... still wrapping my head around this.
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Maman 09/17/2010 6:16:00 AM
It is sad that all of your comments are "spot on". For more than five years, I have become more and more disillusioned with NYPD. I wanted to feel that most officers are "Officer Friendly", yet I wonder if there are too many "Clubber Williams" types. (See his "tenderloin" and "the Supremem Court" comments.) We have complained to IAB several times about warranted concerns, with no response. This was about my child being an inncent bystamder crime victim while in training with NYPD, the subsequent harassment of one and/or both us by the college where it occurred and NYPD entities, the auxiliary program, and most recently, a robbery that no report was taken for. Requesting input online from Kelly's office yielded a precinct lieutenant deciding with the officers who were more concerned with getting off work on time that "they did not believe a crime took place" of almost $3,000 in valuables and supplies. The landlord's possible role was questioned, and that he offered to reimburse me was called "generous" by the two officers, yet when he and I went to the precinct the next night, then I called often as instructed, and returned with him a month later, still no report number was ever generated. In fact, an officer and staff there found that the two officers reported "no answer at the door". How then, did I know their names and show them the ransacked storeroom? How did they have numbers to call the landlord and me? A former tenant who moved last year had a report written at the scene by different officers from the same precinct at the scene, I also noted to the lieutenant, who over six weeks afterwards wants to offer an on-site investigation that did not seem necessary the night I discovered the crime. I had been away (mail held and no one told of absence). Oh well, do you wonder where NYPD retirees go? Many collegs and businesses hire them, where more of the same malfeasance and nonfeasance take place. Thank you all for reading this - the "tips" of other icebergs.
http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/the-nypds-clubber-williams-feasts-on-tenderloin/
http://nydailynews.com/archives/news/2001/12/07/2001-12-07_pct_boss_is_suspended_slaps.html
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g.e.Taylor 09/16/2010 6:46:00 AM
The arrival of computer departments for each city agency (not to mention the city wide office of technology) has exponentially increased the potential for municipal corruption that was traditionally associated with the asphalt division of the highway department. Except now the "facts" of every day experience are reduced to a "language", and "processed" in a manner, that few citizens can understand.
Where are the city officials that are usually seen bragging on their concern for municipal virtue - where is the Public Advocate, the President of the City Council; the Comptroller: where are the District Attorneys; where is the State's Attorney General?
When will the people wake up to the peril they have allowed to be created?
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Athas 09/13/2010 9:28:00 PM
Like the previous commentator, I first heard about this in NPR's 'This American Life', and had to find out more. The fact that I had to find the details via Village Voice is telling, since I do not think mainstream media is willing to tackle this issue at this time. What's remarkable about this whole affair is not the apparent abuses within the quota system perpetrated by Compstat, but that recordings exist that documents the retaliation to suppress these abuses. Credit Schoolcraft for that, who otherwise would have ended up completely screwed up instead of merely being harassed for life by our NY's supposed Finest.
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noboby 09/12/2010 10:01:00 AM
I heard this story on NPR's This American Life and I couldn't believe what I heard. I googled and found the rest of the story here. The sad part is that the same "refusing to take police report" stuff happens here in LA suburban PD as well. I had the unfortunately opportunity to property theft. The first time the LEO talked me out of filing a report I went with it, the second I practically had to demand that a police report be written, with the LEO telling me that the crime won't be solved. Reporting petty theft is not about recovery assets but about getting the incident logged so maybe it can raise some awareness and help out the next guy.
I am usually against lawsuits such as the $50 million lawsuit against the NYPD because eventually it's the tax payers who ends up paying. $50 million is a lot of money, but in this case, if it can bring about an end of a systemic abuse of power by the NYPD commands that cheats and abuses the tax payers of NYC, $50 million is a bargain.
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Rich S 09/11/2010 12:53:00 AM
"Meeting the numbers", i.e. quotas are such a poor management technique. "Management by objectives" as W.E. Deming called it -- something that should be abolished in modern business (i.e. post-1960!). It is not true leadership. It removes responsibility, takes focus away from real goal. Quotas do not keep neighborhoods safe.
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A. S. Evans 09/02/2010 9:33:00 PM
We the public need to support the whistleblowers and truthtellers.
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Joseph p bell 09/02/2010 9:05:00 AM
I am a 911 Truther ,and 76 years old ,navy vet 1952-1956 ; Hitler was a Corporal in the army ,fought in a real war ; while DUMBYA went AWOL after his daddy bought him a slot in the national ? guard/ I was hoping you "good "people would bring back 911 articles; especially the new tape on Barry Jennings ,and Mr Hess ,who suffered the same fate on 911 ,in building 7? I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO #7? "Core of Corruption "has new tapes . Jennings died in an automobile accident ? after talking to CHANGE.ORG ? while Hess who says the same things is still living > ? How's about some help . before i bite the dust .. Remember Albie ???? from Nashville News on 911 ? flew over the WTC ,reported it to the NEWS and it was printed on 9/12/2001 :: While Ambassador Ryan Crocker sees the same thing ,coming in from NJ. but waits until Nov. 2009 to tell Newsweek. and then he says ,"I watched the buildings IMplode ".. Please a little help for the Little GUY .. 2 elli st woburn ma 01801 781-932-1640
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JR 08/29/2010 4:42:00 AM
There are enough felonies in this report to support a RICO indictment on the Patrolmens Benevolent Association...
NYPD really is the biggest, most powerful gang out of all the gangs in NY.
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connor larkin 08/29/2010 4:36:00 AM
Bad cops are hired by the local politicians: New Orleans, Miami, Philadelphia, Memphis, SF, NYC and LA to name a few of the many.
These cities are deep in drug gangs, human trafficking, slave sex trade, and unfettered illegal immigration fostered by big business and politicians.
Until all political parties and institutions change, there will always be corruption by the criminals--corrupt pols, street hustlers & grifters, preachers, and citizens. There is just too much money to be made from HUD, Community block grants, State grants, and unregulated financial lizards on Wall Street.
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Aldo Ciccolini 08/28/2010 12:01:00 AM
PLEASE NOTE: The Times is ** SUPPRESSING ** this story to protect Bloomberg, Kelly and their own lazy, ignorance. Much credit to Graham and, although I have quarrels with the Voice's wildly hit-or-miss content these days, this has been a very important series, so credit Tony Ortega too for running with it.
Hilarious but apt an earlier comment called out the NYT's Jim Dwyer and Sam Roberts specifically too, as prominent has-beens who should know better. They were, sadly, MUCH better earlier in their careers.
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Rich Allan 08/27/2010 9:09:00 PM
Police are nothing more than state sanctioned gang members. They can't be trusted. And it starts at the top.
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Rich Allan 08/27/2010 9:08:00 PM
Police are nothing more than state sanctioned gang members. They can't be trusted. And it starts at the top.
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Tony Guerra 08/27/2010 7:19:00 AM
I do not know why there is such a surprise at what's going on here in the NYPD. It takes place with the approval of the commissioner and his boss Bloomberg. They know exactly what's going on and approve of every aspect of it. Kelly has become as power hungry as any corrupt politician. He skews the statistics to make himself look good, which also helps Bloomberg. I think Kelly likes the limelight and relishes every minute in it. Nothing gets done in the NYPD without the commissioner's approval.
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Bing 08/26/2010 10:42:00 PM
I cannot even believe this. Its amazing, to keep cops employed, you harrass the neighborhood to make more arrests and keep the number up? Then it means we do not need as many police as is always being implied. The money can be spent elsewhere.
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me 08/26/2010 8:12:00 PM
Previous comment makes an excellent connection to schools and their data. The testing scam is just the tip of the iceberg. Graduation rates will eventually be exposed as being equally fraudulent- ask teachers, they know the real deal but are afraid to say publicly. After reading what happened to these cops, who can blame them?
It seems that when complex societal issues can be boiled down to a simple percentage (crime down 10% ! graduation up 10!) , these numbers will be used for political gain. Pressure will be put upon principals, police officials, et al to massage events to fit predetermined outcomes I.e. things are better in our city because crime down, more learning, etc. google campbells law (perhaps the only law being followed here in NYC)
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Gabrielle Jackson 08/26/2010 3:37:00 PM
This is quintessential Village Voice stuff. Excellent investigative journalism, Graham. Great to see the Voice doing what it has always done best. As a former New York City resident, I'm glad the Voice is back sticking up for ordinary New Yorkers. Keep the pressure on!
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Zyrian 08/26/2010 2:28:00 PM
Are we really surprised by this story? These type police misconducts and corruptions are taking place all over America, and citizens also have themselves to blame. For years and years many of us tried to warn that policing in America was regressing back to its dishonorable and not so humble beginnings, where at one time they operated more like a brutal and deadly mafia rather than a honorable profession serving and protecting the public. As long as arrest numbers were up, prisons and jails bursting at the seams, local government revenue coffers were up and mainly the poor and minority poor were the targets other citizens, politicians etc. looked the other way. You are all guilty by complicity and indifference.
Elie Wiesel once stated: "The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. Indifference, to me, is the epitome of evil."
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Saratoga N. Blake 08/26/2010 9:19:00 AM
Keep it coming, Graham. And lurkers, ask yourselves why the Times doesn't follow up on this, except the obvious answers
1) fealty to power is their credo, especially The Midget King, with Popeye along for the ride
2) they are being scooped repeatedly
3) FACT: most Times' editors don't know a goddamn thing about the city, and those reporters who do gave up to get along ages ago: yeah you, Sam Roberts, and you Jim Dwyer.
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trustme 08/25/2010 11:50:00 PM
It is all true in the series...
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Julia Willebrand 08/25/2010 7:57:00 PM
Cui bono. It obvious that Bloomberg, et al are the beneficiaries of the cooked numbers and it's doubtful that low level Lieutenants cooked up schemes to produce favorable crime stats without direction from above. This story is another version of the recent school test scandal. Again It's pretty obvious that tests that don't test anything real were created to make our "leaders", e.g. Klein look good.
