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Momsi45 07/10/2011 9:49:00 PM
How sad that I have been living on the Island for over 36 years and have never had the pleasure
of enjoying Cedar Beach.....I am thankful that at long , last I SHALL have my chance now.........
My children who were born on the Island..did not enjoy , making sand castle, or racing along
the beach....BUT ...my grand-babies will enjoy the best kept secret....as will others...Everything has it's season and Our Season is long over due.....
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Druz 03/01/2011 2:02:00 AM
What a dumb reply. These people are not rich at all.
I bet you voted for Obama.
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Bld324 02/28/2011 1:46:00 AM
I was a guest at the beach community once and it was a wonderful place. It is a shame he families had to give it up. We have alot of public beaches on SI none as nice as this one. It is a shame.
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Josh E Jays 01/25/2011 3:26:00 AM
What the hell are you talking about, welfare? How is paying money to the City to lease the land that was seized from the Club, welfare? Living on the public dime?
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Dot 11/24/2010 4:29:00 AM
"The drive to destroy this community is just another symptom of the leftard mentality. The perception is that "rich white folks" have something nice - and the race-baiters/poverty pimps/class warfare hawks simply cannot allow that to stand."
Uh huh. Because these are rich white folks they should just get to keep the beach. It's so rare to see true racism in practice these days. Most people try to hide it in fancy terms, but you, well, you just come right out and let your racist flag fly. Congratulations to you and to all the people who managed to bring race into a discussion where, to my knowledge, race wasn't an issue. Bottom line: these people have been living off the public dime and receive more welfare than any of the minorities you so clearly despise. But it's not welfare if a rich white person gets it, right?
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Dedicated_Dad 10/15/2010 2:32:00 AM
Mixed feelings here...
(1) The sense that these folks have been getting "a sweetheart deal" is right on. These "bungalows" should earn their real value in revenue for the city.
(2) The drive to destroy this community is just another symptom of the leftard mentality. The perception is that "rich white folks" have something nice - and the race-baiters/poverty pimps/class warfare hawks simply cannot allow that to stand.
(3) Lastly, there's the simple fact that this beach is so nice while "city owned" land is such a decrepit, disgusting s***hole. Can't have these folks making the city look bad...
The combination of all of the above leads - in the minds... nope -- in the FEELINGS -- of the leftards in charge - to only one possible conclusion: It must be destroyed.
In their warped world it's better for the whole coastline to be wrecked than for these "rich white folks" to be allowed to maintain part of it.
DD
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Dedicated_Dad 10/15/2010 2:32:00 AM
Mixed feelings here...
(1) The sense that these folks have been getting "a sweetheart deal" is right on. These "bungalows" should earn their real value in revenue for the city.
(2) The drive to destroy this community is just another symptom of the leftard mentality. The perception is that "rich white folks" have something nice - and the race-baiters/poverty pimps/class warfare hawks simply cannot allow that to stand.
(3) Lastly, there's the simple fact that this beach is so nice while "city owned" land is such a decrepit, disgusting s***hole. Can't have these folks making the city look bad...
The combination of all of the above leads - in the minds... nope -- in the FEELINGS -- of the leftards in charge - to only one possible conclusion: It must be destroyed.
In their warped world it's better for the whole coastline to be wrecked than for these "rich white folks" to be allowed to maintain part of it.
DD
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Dot 10/14/2010 2:26:00 AM
Boo effing hoo Cedar Grove. You've been getting a sub-market deal for how long? You're renters, and your landlord hasn't allowed you to renew. Now do what everyone else who rents does: stfu and move.
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Dot 10/14/2010 2:26:00 AM
Boo effing hoo Cedar Grove. You've been getting a sub-market deal for how long? You're renters, and your landlord hasn't allowed you to renew. Now do what everyone else who rents does: stfu and move.
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lorenzo 10/07/2010 10:04:00 PM
Just another example of useless, inefficient, and extremely irritating bureaucracy, trying to justify their own jobs, and trying to kowtow to the strutting egoist we have as mayor. The land was taken illegally to begin with, no one goes there, the families have kept the beach area up for generations, but the City doesn't care, they want to somehow bring the welfare crowd to the beach. Question: How are they going to get there? Is the City going to start a shuttle from urban housing projects? Just what the city needs, more roving vandals. This is why the Tea Party has succeeded, government oversteps its authority and its mandate, and tries to rule our lives and the way we live. Tradition be damned, politicians just want to look good to the "people". Whom those people are is easily seen, they are not the citizens that pay taxes or who work to keep our city great, but the pols somehow feel that we the people have to support the lives of those who spend generations in substandard or public housing because they don't have desire to do better. And please don't give me any garbage about "Oh, their poor upbringing." They have city housing and medical care, what is wrong with the city not respecting we the people who support the stupid pols with our tax base. That's why more of the middle class goes to the Jersey Shore and other places, the City is pushing to become the land of the entitlement domain.
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lorenzo 10/07/2010 10:04:00 PM
Just another example of useless, inefficient, and extremely irritating bureaucracy, trying to justify their own jobs, and trying to kowtow to the strutting egoist we have as mayor. The land was taken illegally to begin with, no one goes there, the families have kept the beach area up for generations, but the City doesn't care, they want to somehow bring the welfare crowd to the beach. Question: How are they going to get there? Is the City going to start a shuttle from urban housing projects? Just what the city needs, more roving vandals. This is why the Tea Party has succeeded, government oversteps its authority and its mandate, and tries to rule our lives and the way we live. Tradition be damned, politicians just want to look good to the "people". Whom those people are is easily seen, they are not the citizens that pay taxes or who work to keep our city great, but the pols somehow feel that we the people have to support the lives of those who spend generations in substandard or public housing because they don't have desire to do better. And please don't give me any garbage about "Oh, their poor upbringing." They have city housing and medical care, what is wrong with the city not respecting we the people who support the stupid pols with our tax base. That's why more of the middle class goes to the Jersey Shore and other places, the City is pushing to become the land of the entitlement domain.
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RoughAcres 10/07/2010 1:30:00 PM
Let me get this straight: the land was privately owned, then the City took the land under eminent domain to build a highway never built. A group of people leased the unused, unwanted land for 40+ years... perhaps 'for a song,' but nonetheless, a legitimate contract.
Now the Parks Department wants the land back... for public use, though the adjoining beach on public land has been neglected and no money appears in the Parks budget to clean it up, and no money appears in the budget to rehabilitate Cedar Grove.
And the people who've been living there, and caring for the beach, are just out of luck because the City thinks the public should have access.
Do I have the story correct? Or did I miss the part that would give me and my friends permission to use one of those penthouse apartments on Central Park? I should be able to just... take it... right?
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RoughAcres 10/07/2010 1:30:00 PM
Let me get this straight: the land was privately owned, then the City took the land under eminent domain to build a highway never built. A group of people leased the unused, unwanted land for 40+ years... perhaps 'for a song,' but nonetheless, a legitimate contract.
Now the Parks Department wants the land back... for public use, though the adjoining beach on public land has been neglected and no money appears in the Parks budget to clean it up, and no money appears in the budget to rehabilitate Cedar Grove.
And the people who've been living there, and caring for the beach, are just out of luck because the City thinks the public should have access.
Do I have the story correct? Or did I miss the part that would give me and my friends permission to use one of those penthouse apartments on Central Park? I should be able to just... take it... right?
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Max555 10/07/2010 8:35:00 AM
What a poorly written article, the author has no respect for the people featured in the story and it shows, sounds like an elitist journalism student. Hey these families have had this beach all these years, why take it away from them, we have plenty of public beaches. I wouldn't be in favor of eminent domain taking my home and I'm not in favor of these families being displaced either.
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Max555 10/07/2010 8:35:00 AM
What a poorly written article, the author has no respect for the people featured in the story and it shows, sounds like an elitist journalism student. Hey these families have had this beach all these years, why take it away from them, we have plenty of public beaches. I wouldn't be in favor of eminent domain taking my home and I'm not in favor of these families being displaced either.
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Keith 10/02/2010 1:55:00 AM
WHAT A NASTY LITTLE ARTICLE!
Grossly exagerating the condition of SI beaches and neighborhoods is as old a cliche as you can find.
We get it, the Voice's hipster writers are so emtionally insecure that they are incapable of writing a positive word for fear their downtown street cred will vanish.
To paint SI as anything but the cleanest, safest, greenest, and most lovely of our boroughs is a blatant lie that the Voice has done for decades.
You need to be much more responsible in your reporting and grow up...being sarcastic and insulting is not the same as being intelligent....or talented.
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Keith 10/02/2010 1:55:00 AM
WHAT A NASTY LITTLE ARTICLE!
Grossly exagerating the condition of SI beaches and neighborhoods is as old a cliche as you can find.
We get it, the Voice's hipster writers are so emtionally insecure that they are incapable of writing a positive word for fear their downtown street cred will vanish.
To paint SI as anything but the cleanest, safest, greenest, and most lovely of our boroughs is a blatant lie that the Voice has done for decades.
You need to be much more responsible in your reporting and grow up...being sarcastic and insulting is not the same as being intelligent....or talented.
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ErricZ 10/02/2010 12:49:00 AM
The "public" won't take care of it, they'll destroy it and expect "the government" to come and clean it up, as usual. People don't care about something that's just given to them. Sick.
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ErricZ 10/02/2010 12:49:00 AM
The "public" won't take care of it, they'll destroy it and expect "the government" to come and clean it up, as usual. People don't care about something that's just given to them. Sick.
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Mack 09/26/2010 9:20:00 AM
Zed 09/20/2010 6:42:37 AM: What's up with the "inbred chimp" comment? That's rich, coming from a stinking wop like yourself.
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kidd 09/25/2010 10:36:00 AM
these are good people, who cared for this beach
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sajh 09/23/2010 12:11:00 AM
In all honesty, the best use of this land would be to finish Moses vision, if only half-heartly. Take Father Cap's Blvd and extend it to Great Kills, then have it reconnect to Hylan. Hylan cannot support traffic on it as it is. But as far as this community is concerned, I think they should stay paying as long as the Park Dept doesnt have a clear plan BUT remove the ability to have private property in the sense they are using it exclusively.
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Karyn 09/21/2010 4:31:00 PM
Fabulous article. I was so intreguied with the old world charm of Staten Islander's per se, and this article confirms what I was sensing about that community of peoples. However, I am all for change now and the new public parks (e.g., Brooklyn Bridge Park) are a major improvement to all other parks of the past - they will not be unhappy.
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jacki browne 09/21/2010 12:16:00 AM
Very nostalgic (when not thinking about the politics). While reading the article, it felt like I was in a time warp...a very pleasant one. Again, politics aside--can they really be put aside--could be a fine setting for a novel, play, short story...
Glad to know about this little lesser known slice of the city and its history. Seems like we can depend on Ms. Dwoskin to be our tour guide of the overlooked and lesser known NYC.
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Ryan Kenny 09/20/2010 9:43:00 PM
From the Benepe bio on the Parks Department webpage:
With the prospect of budget shortfalls, Benepe and the Department will continue to work with and expand public–private partnerships, building on a remarkable network of over 400 civic organizations, 1,800 community groups and more than 56,000 individual volunteers, who donate collectively more than 1.7 million hours of volunteer labor every year to parks and gardens.
Closing CGBC would be a tragic missed opportunity
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Zed 09/20/2010 7:42:00 PM
Now, inbred chimps like "Tim 09/17/2010 5:25:09 AM" can shit up the place like they did to the rest of the 5 Boroughs. His kind will feel right at home on their newly created seaside ghetto.
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RoHem 09/20/2010 1:09:00 PM
This Staten Island oasis is so much more than a Beach Club. There is a certain feeling this community shares. Upon entering Cedar Grove a sense of serenity is instilled in you. The history, the friendly residents saying hello, and the well-maintained land makes it a place hard to leave. It is well-known (because of recent press exposure about Cedar Grove) that this land is thoroughly maintained. This is a welcoming community that brings people together.
City officials want to "reconnect the borough to its maritime culture." New Dorp had culture before the beach bungalows were seized and torn down along New Dorp Beach. This land is currently not maintained. Is there enough money designated to do anything useful to Cedar Grove? No. Where is the money going to come from? Shouldn't any money raised be used to fund current problem-locations as opposed to acquiring more land that will be potential problem locations. In addition, seizing the land will stop the payments from the current residents that has been successfully accruing to over one million dollars for the past 40 years.
It is an injustice to the community to condemn this beautiful and well-kept land to the same misfortune of previously seized bungalows. The bungalows at Cedar Grove are the only ones left in all of NYC. Something must be done to stop this unfair brutal attack on this historic, well-preserved, and loving community. Cedar Grove has raised money for New Dorps businesses for about a century. Through church fund raisers, shopping in local stores, and paying for this land, even filming movies. I don't think Benepe really thought of all the underlying factors of this decision.
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June 09/19/2010 2:39:00 AM
That's not fair that they are making those people gve up their spots for some recreation center that is going to probably xcharge a whole lot of money...
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Susan Burghart 09/18/2010 3:15:00 AM
How I wish I could turn back the clock to a time when nobody knew about Cedar Grove which was only but a few years ago. It was only a matter of time before some spiteful, jealous person had to call attention to it. I am not a member of this club. I have lived in the neighboring community for 43 years and it is a personal landmark for me. What you see today is how it was when I was a child, only the sand (thank you, Cedar Grove & Jose)and water are cleaner. It truly is like stepping back in time. But go to either side of this pristine paradise and you will find debris everywhere (thank you, Parks Department). I cannot understand why, Mr. Benepe, you have singled out Cedar Grove. There is much more to the story, I feel. The City Parks need to fix what is broken and leave the Cedar Grove residents alone. They have done nothing but good for our community. We DO have public access to the beach. I have made many wonderful friends there who have made me feel welcome always. They do a better job of taking care of their land than the parks ever can! Filthy beaches lie neglected on either side yet the Parks targets Cedar Grove. I am both sad and angry. Mr. Benepe, why are you turning a deaf ear to the people that live here? Does our community not matter to you? Then again, why should it? New Dorp Beach and its people are "inconsequential", to quote one of his remarks about Cedar Grove. Parks are in disrepair all over the five boroughs and nothing is done. It just doesn't make any sense. The residents should be allowed to stay. They are a benefit to our community. The place already is a park and thankfully, the Parks Department had nothing to do with it. That's the reason it has remained so beautiful all these years.
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Tim 09/17/2010 6:25:00 PM
Sounds like a bunch of rich white folk are upset about losing the sweetheart deal they've had for so long. Boo-hoo. Guess us po' trash will one day be able to avail ourselves of the facilities offered at Cedar Grove. Jeez, get over yourselves. It's public land- public meaning not just 41 families who have had their own private beach fiefdom for 41 years.
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jodi 09/17/2010 8:42:00 AM
Doesn't the above article tell you something?? Compare the condition of he 2 beaches...want to destroy Cedar Grove and turn it into New Dorp? C'mon, leave these people alone, dwellers in the other 4 boros don't get to Staten Island anyway, this is just motivated by spite
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Tara R 09/17/2010 7:34:00 AM
Great article, it sums it up, a terrible tragedy for the families of Cedar Grove. Benape has to be one of the most blind and heartless people ive ever heard of. He looks at Cedar Grove as a bunch of greedy people who are wheeling and dealing for a cheap vacation. He hasnt visited because he doesnt want to see what it really is before tearing it down; a wonderful family community, where people pour their heart and soul into their cottages, their beach, and their neighbors for 3 or 4 generations, and what is a beautifully preserved part of New York history....thanks to them, not to the Parks Dept.
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TOM BASILE 09/17/2010 5:47:00 AM
As a former resident of Cedar Grove Beach Club I am perhaps a little prejudice, never the less, I am confounded by the parks departments position. It seems silly to evict an income producing tenant that maintains the property, without a plan in place or a budget to execute were there a plan. As a tax payer I am livid at commissioner Benapes unbridled arrogance. Mayor Bloomberg should intervene and put a halt to the injustice being perpetrated by Mr. Benape. What is his motivation? Would it be so awful to allow the club to continue until such time as there is a plan and budget in place to build the park, the commissioner so covets. I believe common sense has been abandoned and the heavy hand of government is exercising its will without regard to right or wrong.
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mickey 09/17/2010 4:55:00 AM
Amen to all of the comments above! How does Commissioner Benepe sleep at night-and how does a man like him establish a position as commissioner? What a disgrace!!
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Courtney Harrington 09/17/2010 1:54:00 AM
With the current financial postition that New York City is in, I question the City and Parks Department decision to close the doors to Cedar Grove Beach Club. Over the past year alone, the City has shut down public pools, parks and programs because they do not have the money to fund them. Just this month, the city cut out busses for school aged children due to a lack of money. Cedar Grove Beach Club is a revenue generator for the city and I question their decision to cut out any revenue at this time. They could use the money collected from Cedar Grove to re-instate any of the above programs.
Aren’t there better options? Instead of spending millions of dollars the city and taxpayers no not have during a recession (to demolish and rebuild), couldn’t the city take the money slated for this project and re-direct it into beautifying the current parks and beaches on Staten Island? There are plenty of public beaches and parks on Staten Island and after passing the beaches on Father Capodano Blvd. in August(1:30 PM on a perfect beach day), I noticed the parking lot was empty. Is it the wisest decision to spend money creating another park that no one is asking for?
Perhaps there are some compromises that could be reached:
1) The city could use CGBC for the Boy Scouts/Girls Scouts since Pouch Camp is in danger of being closed down.
2) NYC could use parts of CGBC for day camps for children on Staten Island while CGBC continues to maintain the property
3) Work with non-profit organizations such as the Fresh Air Fund, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, etc. in letting them use the land for the children.
All of the above would be a fair trade for letting the current residents stay in their homes and maintain the beaches. It would be a win/win for the City.
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Gail 09/16/2010 8:51:00 PM
The fact that the parks dept. has not restored the beach at New Dorp shows further disregard to the Cedar Grove group. If Benepe thought the residents needed a swimming beach, he's had lots of years to clean up and restore that area. Remove da bum from office, and preserve the Cedar Grove Beach Club. It could be used for a movie location, a historic park, etc. Let the people who have taken care of it continue--it brings revenue to the city after all. Based on the parks dept. history, Cedar Grove will fall into disrepair too, and join New Dorp as another blighted area. No money for development, no money for staff, no money for maintenance. grrrrr.
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Joshua Jakob 09/16/2010 8:49:00 AM
Benepe claims it is illegal for people to live on Parks property.
Well, I retort that it is illegal for the Parks commissioner to leave a park unmaintained.
"The commissioner shall have the power and it shall be his or her duty:
a. Parks
1. to manage and care for all parks, squares and public places, the sidewalks immediately adjoining the same and all playgrounds, playground fixtures and other recreation properties, except those within the jurisdiction of the board of education or other agencies, but such jurisdiction shall not extend to or include the buildings which are not or hereafter may be erected in parks, squares or public places for governmental purposes other than those of the department;
2. to prepare plans for the establishment and improvement of a park system for the city with due regard to proper connections with the systems of federal, state and county parks and recreation areas in the city and the counties adjacent to the city, and execute the same when authorized in accordance with the provisions of this charter;
3. to maintain the beauty and utility of all parks, squares, public places, playgrounds and other recreational properties, except those within the jurisdiction of the board of education and to institute and execute all measures for the improvement thereof for ornamental purposes and for the beneficial uses of the people of the city;
4. to plant and maintain trees and to construct, erect and establish seats, drinking fountains, statues and works of art in any place within his or her jurisdiction, and to determine when and where lamps or lighting appliances shall be placed and lighted therein and the design thereof;
5. to authorize and regulate the use of and the projections on and determine the line or curb and the surface construction of all streets and avenues lying within any park, square or public place or within a distance of three hundred fifty feet from the outer boundaries thereof;
6. to maintain buildings and structures now or hereafter erected or established in any park, square, public place or playground under his or her jurisdiction and to carry out and perform existing contracts with corporations or institutions for the construction and maintenance of such buildings and structures;..."
See this link http://24.97.137.100/nyc/charter/Charter_Chapter21Section%20533.asp
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Jack Murphy 09/15/2010 9:59:00 PM
The families of Cedar Grove Beach maintain the property, pay rent to the City, and permit public access to the beach. This is what Mayor Bloomberg would refer to as the perfect "private, public partnership". The public enjoys the use of a well maintained and safe beach front. The residents of Cedar Grove keep their historic community alive; and the city receives income without the expense of maintaining the property.
In a letter to commissioner Benepe, Congressman McMahon along with Council Members James Oddo, Vincent Ignizio and Kenneth Mitchell “request a five year extension (of the lease) for the inhabitants.” Council Member Melissa Mark-Viverito, Chair of the Parks and Recreation Committee, wrote to the Commissioner “I call on the Department of Parks and Recreation to continue to allow the Cedar Grove Beach Club to remain so long as they are paying rent and properly maintaining the land.” Council Member Viverito ended her letter with “Thank you for your anticipated cooperation”. New York State Assembly Woman Janele Hyer-Spencer wrote “I respectfully request that you reconsider this decision that will most assuredly become a tragedy”.
Many of these elected officials including New York State Senators Diane Savino, and Andrew Lanza, Assemblyman Matthew Titone have met socially with the families of Cedar Grove in a show of support. CGBC has also received the support from the local community including the New Dorp Civic Association and the Manresa Council Knights of Columbus. After a visit to the beach colony the New York State Historic Preservation Office approved CGBC to be listed to the State and National Register of historic sites.
In a time when our City and State are going through a fiscal crisis it is irresponsible for the Parks Department to eliminate a source of revenue and a valued asset to the New Dorp area. Council Member Viverito, Chairperson for the Parks and Recreation Committee, relayed to Mr. Benepe that “I am concerned that the land in question could ultimately become fallow, an entirely legitimate concern that has been raised by the leaders and residents of the area. I have not been aware of any funds specifically dedicated for the capital and expenses needs of this location”.
Are we to allow an “appointed official” to overrule the edict of our elected representatives and the community he was appointed to serve? Why is he circumventing the wishes of the community and our representatives? Does he believe that he “knows better” than the people who live and work in the neighborhood? Clearly, Mr. Benepe does not have the best interests of the community at heart and I believe his motives are suspect. This blatant disregard for the wishes of Staten Island’s residents and their representatives should be called into question. It is in everyone’s best interest that the Parks Department continue their lease agreement and that we all work together to improve Staten Island’s beach front and the New Dorp neighborhood.
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SI Guy 09/15/2010 9:50:00 PM
So lets get this straight. The City takes private land to build a highway but lies and says it to make it a park. The highway gets blocked and they are found out. The former owners go to court to be able to stay on their property. The City has to give now that they are busted on it so the residents are allowed to lease back what was once theirs by paying the City an annual fee.
So the people agree to pay the fee and maintain the property at their own expense same as the always have. Now, when the City is in the worst financial crisis in recent memory, the Parks Commish Benepe wants to throw these people out and take the land away again depriving Parks from income they desperately need. Sound fishy anyone? Smells worse than the East River.
Benepe has been pushing private maintenance of public parks for years now, why is this different? He is all for rich people living in Brooklyn Bridge Park and on the Hudson River in that park, why not here? Because they are regular middle-class folks who take care of the land better than he can or just because he hasn't been given some cushy Board position or invited to some ritzy benefit party?
The City has no money to maintain the parks they already have. Look at the opening photo. Nevermind the Parks in the more urban areas that are in desperate need of cleaning and general upkeep!
As a Staten Islander i must say, I would much rather my tax dollars going to clean up other parks that people want then being used to bounce some poor 82 year old lady out of her family home so that the Parks Department can make it a toilet! Benepe said he let these people stay out of the kindness of his heart. If he had a heart at all he would leave these people alone. Seems like they are bothering nobody but him.
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Cathie Sumsky 09/15/2010 11:48:00 AM
I think Benepe forced the beach club to sign a stipulation not to sue by sending them an eviction notice on Dec. 1 to be out by Dec. 30th. Bah Humbug Commissioner Benepe. Hopefully the residents of Cedar Grove Beach get to stay in their homes that was wrongfully taken from them in the first place.
Commissioner Benepe....have a heart. I don't see much opposition the the beach club staying.... but do see a lot of opposition to you kicking them out!
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Joshua Jakob 09/15/2010 11:23:00 AM
Cedar Grove Beach Club has been my neighbor for 29 years of my life, my brother's neighbor for 34 years of his life, my mother's neighbor for 40 years of her life and my father's neighbor for 64 years of his life in New Dorp Beach. They have maintained a nice strip of shoreline that I can swim, fish, and walk along without fear of injury, unlike the rest of New Dorp Beach which lies covered in the ruins of the buildings that Parks tore down.
The Parks Department has framed this issue as the private abuse of public property. When Parks acquired this land, they condemned a beach that was clean and used by many Staten Island citizens as well as New York City citizens who would arrive by boat to vacation here. Before Robert Moses, we had a good beach, we had places where my now-deceased grandparents danced on the weekends and where my uncles watched movies, we had picnic areas, and we had caretakers. Parks took that away from all of us, and now we are to believe they will give us something better than what they took away? My father has waited 48 years for something comparable to Ocean Edge Colony and Clearwater Colony to come back. Who has abused our public property along New Dorp Beach more, the members of Cedar Grove Beach Club or the Parks Department? This is the time to prove to the City the value of their public-private partnerships.
The Manresa Council maintains a well-groomed and regulated baseball field on Parks property for the community to use, not to mention New Dorp Beach's 9/11 memorial. Our Lady of Lourdes operates their mission church on Parks property, and pays rent for the honor of allowing the Catholic members of the community to worship and to host the Senior Friendship Club, a place where our retirees can meet as a community. These are examples of partnerships that occur presently on the Great Kills Park property, which is Parks' name for this property which they seized.
Why can't Cedar Grove be another partner who helps to make New Dorp Beach, and Staten Island, a stronger community?