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Atwill says the writers of the Gospels used a literary device called “typology”—“a genre of literature that the ancient Hebrews used”—employing parallels to elicit hidden messages and to suggest the circularity of history and the value of prophecy. But the Romans did it as a joke on the Jews, Atwill says. Introducing themes from Titus’s life into the Gospels, leaving an indelible imprint, like watermarks on paper, was the Romans’ way of leaving their signature, he says.

What motivated them? “They were the vainest people who ever lived,” Atwill says. “They wanted to make sure that posterity knew they had subdued the Jews through a fake religion.

Some of this has been explored by other scholars. Robert Eisenman, professor of religion at California State University, Long Beach, one of the participants in the movie, says he was long familiar with the practice of “overwriting” texts, “people taking texts and writing over them.” He himself suggested, in his 1997 book, James the Brother of Jesus, that the Gospels had been written over to give them a “pro-Roman slant.”

In uncovering the Titus connection, “Atwill may have carried it a step farther,” Eisenman says.

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ralf.ellis
ralf.ellis

Atwill's evidence for this is circumstantial. But the gospel events did take place in the late AD 60s, which is why Jesus describes the siege of Jerusalem in Luke 19:43.

If you want the complete evidence for this, and find out who Jesus really was, you need to read 'King Jesus' and 'Jesus, King of Edessa'.

dnlm
dnlm

“Joseph Atwill, who is the author of a book entitled ‘Caesar’s Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus’, asserts that Christianity did not begin as a religion, but was actually a sophisticated government propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire.”

Yet his entire written message was the opposite.. I am not writing this to prove their is a God, but to show these people have no clue as to what they are talking about since their whole premise is the exact opposite of what was actually taught.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Acts 17:5 But the Jews which believed not, (Did Not Accept Christ's Teaching Of Liberty/ Simplicity / Christ Being King) moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.

6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down (Their Belief System) are come hither also;

7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do ---contrary to the decrees of Caesar---, saying that there is ---another king,(Authority - Ruler - Government) one Jesus.

Mark 10:42-45: But Jesus called them to Himself and said to them, "You know that those who are considered (notice how he uses the term considered..doesn't make it true) rulers (govt) over the Gentiles lord it (rule) over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. ---------Yet it shall not be so among you; ------but whoever desires to become great among you shall be your servant. And whoever of you desires to be first shall be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."

Luke 22:25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.

John 19:12 From then on Pilate sought to release Him, but the Jews cried out, saying, “If you let this Man go, you are not Caesar’s friend. Whoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar.”

13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus out and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called The Pavement, but in Hebrew, Gabbatha. 14 Now it was the Preparation Day of the Passover, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Jews, “Behold your King!”

15 But they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?”

The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!” 16 Then he delivered Him to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus and led Him away.[c]

chickenlips2007
chickenlips2007

God spoke to Moses long before the Roman Empire. God knows what is in the hearts of all men and women. He knows what our intent is and if we follow Him or Satan. God is real Mr. Atwill and could you explain how your writings bring glory and honor to Him? How dare you be so full of arrogance that you believe you are doing God and the world a service by removing Jesus Christ the son of God from history. We all will die one day and meet our maker but you will wish you were never born.

CenterOfThought
CenterOfThought

Edmund, they should replace you with a professional journalist...

 

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