KISS Drummer Peter Criss Absolves Himself of All Responsibility

Playing the blame game in his new book, Makeup to Breakup

Aside from one or two generic "Boy, I was an asshole" mea culpas, Criss rarely takes responsibility for any of his own failures. Crappy record companies—or the meddling of Simmons and Stanley—are to blame for his post-KISS records tanking. Others foisted drugs upon him.

The final two chapters of Makeup to Breakup detail Criss's recent bout with breast cancer and his deep religious faith. He uses the cancer episode to get in one last shot at Simmons, Stanley, and Frehley: "Every year I do a walkathon for breast cancer to raise money. My dentist sent in a grand one year. Did the band send anything? Not a fucking dime. They didn't even call me after I went public with my cancer."

At the end of the book, Criss writes what's already obvious: He's still harboring plenty of bitterness toward his former bandmates. Evidently, this revenge memoir didn't provide quite the catharsis he'd imagined, and it hardly provides the reader with any notion of goodwill toward the Catman. "I hope that I don't take these feelings to my grave," Criss writes of his anger.

He should have kept his feelings to himself.

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autumndavey
autumndavey

...i was reading the book yesterday at barnes and nobles...this article is not that great...i spent time reading the book,whether it was good or bad i spent a few hours reading it...in some kind of holistic fashion that is... a huge woman came over from barney's and said "you look like you are almost done with that" ...i said " uh well i started in the middle"(which was true) "are you gonna buy it" "i don't know.do you want me to?" "absolutely,thats the whole purpose of bookstores" "not really" "yes it is" "not necessarily" ... i decided never again to speak to this woman as long as i lived...if she asked me anything i would just walk away...anyhow i went home and watched the tom snyder clip and tried to find their movie on the tube...the author of this article is holistic in no kind of way...its not all bad,but when it comes to perspective on music.... : the voice is far away from any kind of be all end all...thats a fact...anyhow, i was born in 70 ...one time i went over to a friends house and his whole wall was Kiss...i used to love to get the face paint at the school fair,but at the time their music wasn't my thing... the author of this piece has no kind of perspective...again,a lot of times the voice has lacked that when it comes to music...the listings are pretty good though... 

wreckedemwreckords
wreckedemwreckords

I have been a fan since 1978, have seen the band in all incarnations over 50 times and Peter has pretty much been my least favorite member of the original 4.  It must have been torture to work with him. They didn't call him Ayatollah Criscoula for nothing.  That being said, his book was miles better than Gene's or Ace's.  Sure it was loaded with contradiction, but that's Peter.  At times I felt bad for him and other times I felt he got what he deserved.  Peter is mental and that came through loud and clear in his book and shouldn't an autobio be a reflection and bring us closer to the author?  This book did it.  Oh and it's worth the price alone just for the HILARIOUS stories regarding Ace and his telescopes.  Now go play "Baby Driver"

Jason788
Jason788

I agree 1000% with this review.  Peter was my favorite... from the time I received my first-ever-album (Peter's 1978 solo album), till the day before I read this book.  After I read Peter's perspective from his own words, I realized... wow... this guy would be a nightmare to work with.  Absolutely disappointing.  

mycomputerdr
mycomputerdr

Back in those days they were all messed up in one way or another. I never saw any reason to think Paul was gay or bi but he did have a close male friend back then that often joined Paul on the road and since they stayed in the same room most times the other three made jokes about it. I however figured it was a close friendship that us guys some time have where we just get along really great. And when you think about it Paul was a bit more money contentious than the others during this time. Yeah Paul was shopping a lot and had a very different since of taste than the others that often also led to jokes. I think since Paul had grown up pretty heavy and he went on a hard road to slim down (which the other also joked about) that once he got to the point where he felt good about him self he took more pride in the way he looked and wanted to be perceived by the public as someone with taste and not always the rock-n-roll type of person. Paul like the pinks, purples, yellows and such which again was joked about but Paul again saw these colors as what set him apart and showed he had more depth to his personality. 

Gene would attack anything in a skirt and to me always showed his true colors and didn't even make an attempt to hide his thoughts or how he felt about anyone. So many times I have seen Gene cuss Ace or Peter out and call them the worst things to only have Paul step in and make Gene either take a day off or to go back and say I am sorry "for the good of the band" I remember Paul saying.

In the end however. You must look at the big picture here. Ace and Peter sold out. The took the offer to sell 100% out of KISS, from royalties to the makeup design. If Peter nor Ace had ever agreed to sell out then KISS would not have made it to the farewell tour. The band was done for. They were finished. Both Paul and Gene had made up their minds to pull the plug. Then Ace and Peter, both guys being broke agreed to come back for a farewell tour that was more than what anyone thought. From then on it has been a money maker. It couldn't have happened without Ace and Peter selling out.


nsandre
nsandre

Part 1

 I read these kind of reviews and often wonder why the reviewer gets so personal in their comments.   I just recently read the book and really enjoyed it, in fact I'm going to go through it again.  To 'review' the book and not the man, I felt it was a good, brisk read full of all of the intrigue, sex, drugs and rock and roll one would expect in a rock drummer's tome.

I think he hit a little more on the gory details of the sex and drugs, much more so than Ace Frehley did in his biography.  Ace's was a bit more sanitized.  With that being said, with Peter being the religious man he says he is and apparently always was, I wondered a bit if some of the shenanigans were a bit, shall we say, exaggerated to make for a better read.

I didn't really get the feel at all that he was trying to blame everyone but himself for his troubles.  I have read this about Peter for a good long while but after reading the book I just don't come away with that feeling.  He seemed pretty straight up about accepting responsibility and realizing he didn't make the best of choices.

One person commented here that Peter showed no remorse about a woman in Las Vegas who had a tryst with him and in later years jumped out a window and killed herself because apparently she didn't like having to service rock stars- Peter said 'I would've killed myself too'.  I didn't take this as a cruel, insensitive remark.  Quite the opposite.  He was making a self deprecating comment- if his life was about servicing people like 'himself', he would end it too.  It was a glib comment- not meaning to demean the woman in question.  He was just relating that what went on on the road, the sex, the debauchery and so on was just a seedy part of the life.  I think to blame Peter for being harsh is taking the comment way out of context in which it was meant.

I felt that he smoothly walked the reader through his early life and career with KISS.   While he talked about Gene and Paul and Ace, his reveals were his feelings which is what a biography is all about.  I think he was fair in his assessments and told the story of how he felt manipulated and crapped on by Gene and Paul.  I didn't feel that he was blasting them or being unnecessarily bitter.  Towards the end of the book, his anger took over a bit as he was a bit more churlish in his remarks towards the two and then Ace got pulled into the mix more strongly.  It seemed like Ace tried to really stay out of the drama and sometimes I think Peter was too hard on Ace.  Peter felt Ace was a traitor by getting more money for performances in the later years, but Ace was just taking care of himself.  He probably felt it wasn't his business to get involved with Peter's financial negotiations.  Taking more money didn't necessarily mean he didn't respect or care for Peter's feelings.

Peter's biggest mistake was not having a good entertainment lawyer rep him.  I think he made this error a lot.   At the end of the day, Peter and Ace, although just 'hired employees' in Gene and Paul's eyes, should've gotten equal amounts of pay between the two of them (Ace and Peter).  I can understand KISS 'belonging' to Gene and Paul and that it's up to them how they want to employ and pay Ace and Peter.  I can even understand Gene and Paul taking the lions share.  However crapping on Peter and paying him the least was a cheap shot on their part.  

nsandre
nsandre

Part 2

However it sounded like Peter needed the money so he took Gene and Paul up on their offers because the money, no matter the amount, was a sure thing.  As for him abandoning his band Criss, well you gotta do what you gotta do.  Though I don't recall him going into details about Criss and how he handled leaving, again, if you need to make a living sometimes you have to quit a lower paying job to get ahead.  Was it fair to the new band?  Probably not, but life isn't always fair.

When Peter recounted being in the hospital after the car wreck and Paul came in to see him and told him that Gene and himself felt that Peter had 'gotten what he deserved' and that he was a 'moron' I felt those two were more the guilty party of bashing Peter than Peter was of bashing them.  It takes someone extremely callous to make that sort of remark to someone who nearly died and who is still recovering in a hospital.  Tough love from the boys?  I don't think so.  Even if Paul and Gene hated Peter, then just go on their way, stay out of his life.  Why keep popping back in?  If the hospital scenario was indeed true and not an embellishment on Peter's part, then shame of Paul and Gene for their callousness.  If I was Peter, I wouldn't have much good to say about them either.

Paul and Gene used Peter and Ace for monetary gain.  They thought nothing of throwing both guys out and moving on with new members.  However when the going slowed up or got rough, they immediately called Peter and Ace to get KISS in the news and to sell tickets.  Gene and Paul realize that Ace and Peter sell tickets.  Not Gene and Paul and a rotating cast.

He also didn't fight the fact that he was voted out of KISS, while I've always heard he maintained that he 'quit' his book made it clear he was given the pink slip.  He never denied being tossed out.

After getting to the end point in the book, and following the natural trail of the band's relationship it just seemed like that relationship deteriorated much more so at the very end and Peter just wanted to express that.  Sometimes that's just the natural end of a relationship.  A hard landing.  I don't think Peter was being unnecessarily bitter or pointing fingers.  He was laying down on paper, how he felt.  I would rather read about his real feelings than a sanitized version of what good guys they (Gene and Paul) were and how he (Peter) screwed up, because I don't think that was the case.  Peter was no angel and didn't behave like a professional all the time and probably did cause a lot of grief, but I am betting the other three members had issues that were just as bad and caused just as much discord among the group.

nsandre
nsandre

Part 3

One passage in the book I found disturbing was about his third wife, the 'love of his life'.  After the last go 'round with KISS apparently Gene and Paul and Tommy Thayer had a Lear jet reserved for the flight back to wherever after the last show.  They made Peter and his wife take a commercial flight the next day.  So the third wife in all of her infinite wisdom decided that poor Peter needed to out with a bang so she went out and rented a Lear jet for them and in his words, 'loaded it down with food and drink'.  So when they went out to the airport the next day there was another Lear jet by the KISS jet waiting to take Peter and his Cinderella home.  She was trying to show off his importance and hers to the other guys.

For a guy who apparently blew all of his money and was reduced to being a KISS employee to build up his bank account, it seemed like the worst poor judgements related to his lack of paying attention to his finances and what others were doing with his money.  He touched on this a bit in the book, however it was a monumentally important part of his life.  While I'm sure he enjoyed playing the rock star role and traveling with KISS again, money no doubt was a big motivator.

I was surprised that a 'wife' would run out and lavishly waste such a huge amount of money to make her husband appear important- and for the most part it was probably to make HER feel important.  This poor guy just worked his tail off for months to try and get himself in financial shape for HER and himself and his daughter and she runs out and probably blows a large portion of it on a Lear jet.  Those ain't cheap you know.  While in the book he seemed impressed with her show of 'love and support' I have to wonder if he truly lives in such a sheltered world that he doesn't realize 'wrong' even when it's shoved in his face.  To me, that 'gesture' seemed a like a completely, oblivious waste of his money.  For years, especially in the later ones,  the managers/lawyers who repped him never seemed to have HIS best interests at heart and he just seemed so naive as to let others lead him down financially poor roads.  I hope he has taken better control of this situation so he can live well for the rest of his days.

nsandre
nsandre

Part 4

I was also a little disappointed that he didn't seem to have a strong relationship with his daughter and grandchild.  He never mentioned much about her in the book after her birth, so I was hoping he would talk more about it towards the end.  I really hope they haven't had a strained relationship all these years.  If so I hope they can mend fences and be close again.

Over all, I think his book was a great read from his point of view.  In my opinion, Peter never hesitated to take it in the nuts.  He was part of one of the most legendary bands/shows to ever come out of the 70's and to this day the original four still have a huge fan base.  Peter made that happen.  Ace made it happen.  Gene and Paul made it happen.  Not any of them individually, it took the original four.  Peter was proud of his part of rock and roll history and doesn't hesitate to say so.  'Beth' was their most well known and biggest hit.  It took all four of them to make it happen, but Peter gave that song life.  No one else does that song better or even comes close.

He has the right to be proud of it.  Gene and Paul never really gave him or Ace that much credit, and Peter was the kind of guy who needed that affirmation and that praise.  Now that he has the chance, he is trying to take credit for his part in one of the most influential bands ever.

I guess I don't blame him.

Rock on Peter, live well and stay healthy.   To those of you that haven't read his book, get a copy!


stanandshannon
stanandshannon

Just watch the Tom Snyder interview.  Ace and Peter had control and this disturbed Gene and Paul.  Gene was out for control and power once the dollars started coming in for the band.  Criss may not be the greatest drummer, but he was good.  Gene on the other hand is an awful bass player and Paul would have been more suited for the Village People.

jaxonavestudios
jaxonavestudios

I think for most of us that were KISS fans in their early days (I'm 45 and saw them at MSG at the age of 11 - my uncle was a celebrity photographer), it's pretty obvious the band was done as soon as Ace left. It doesn't matter if the other guitarists were better than him or not. Personally, I don't think they were better than Ace for KISS, as only he could bring them their true sound. They haven't been the same since.

 I feel the same about Peter. Perhaps he wasn't/isn't considered a great drummer, but his drumming style created what we know as KISS. The REAL KISS anyway. 

I agree that this band has been riding the coattails of what they ONCE had and have been doing so for many years. Anything after Creatures Of The Night sucks if you ask me. No offense to anyone meant, just my opinion.

Ace's book was a great read. Peter's on the other hand...while I don't agree with this reviewer's opinions, Peter has issues and I didn't enjoy the book other than some of the history that hadn't been revealed before the book was published. Then again though, we've all got issues. So there ya go.

While Peter can be annoying, I have much less respect for Gene and Paul. They f@#$%* everyone else who came into the band and we all know that. Gene is so arrogant it's beyond belief. Even to his own wife and kids.

Ace is 'Aces' is my book. He's like a big kid, still to this day. He loves what he does and just keeps on doing it. That's all that matters. He knows he's a very fortunate person who was in the right place at the right time. He knows no one owes him anything and he doesn't expect it. Good guy.

In conclusion and more on topic - crappy review and probably more hateful that it had to be. This dude is obviously not a KISS fan. I personally didn't like the book though. There ya have it.

MNYC
MNYC

I sort of agree with all the comments stated on this site. Yes, Peter does seem bitter and his massive drug use is the reason why Paul and Gene kicked him out and I don't blame them for that. On the other hand, the way they screwed Peter over on his salary for the reunion and subsequent tours is inexcusable. Yes, Peter should have hired better entertainment lawyers before signing on the dotted line but that still doesn't make it okay for Doc, Gene, and Paul to give him such a puny contract. But again, Peter is indeed a bitter angry man for someone who claims to be born again. He must learn to forgive.

Finally, just a word on the current Kiss (and please don't attack me, this is just my personal opinion and all good people can disagree). I do appreciate all the great music and live shows that Kiss puts on for their fans. However, it is a bit silly at this point to have a 60 plus year old man, still spitting up blood on stage - I'm sorry but it is just too hard to take Gene seriously at this point when he does that. It's actually hard to keep from laughing. Sure, they can still play and put on a great show, but please drop some of the same stints from 30 plus years ago like the blood spitting because it no longer works due to their age. Mick Jagger can still strut the stage but he doesn't act the same on stage like he did when he toured in the 60s and early 70s. He matured his stage act and he can still rock with the best of them and put on a great show. Kiss should take some heed in that and adjust their antics during the live shows accordingly.

jkat74
jkat74

I just dont understand why people wouldn't want to know Peter's side.... with all the members in and out over the years, don't you believe him?....at least a little?  Everyone ever associated with this band says the same thing.

 Think about it this way---If you started a company with 3 other people, and it grew to be a very successful company because of ALL 4 partners work and ideas,  Would you be upset if your partners plotted against you and screwed you out of money and made major decisions without your consent or approval?  Of course you would!  That's why Ace and Peter left those two money loving, egotistic pigs.

Let's also not forget that this "company" never did the business it did with all 4 original partners, and never turned out a product as desireable by the core fans.

AceSteele
AceSteele

I grew up listening to KISS, since their 2nd LP.   Peter Criss was always the weak link.  Out of the 3 drummers KISS has had, Peter is the worst. His only claim to fame was being the first.  The only thing that helped me not be a fan of Peter's was having the misfortune to meet Peter numerous times. There's a reason that this rock icon fell & became a failure... Peter only needs to look in to a mirror to see that reason.  The more he speaks, the less I like him.

emusic
emusic

The more I hear about peter criss the more I lose respect for that guy. He is always whining and he should be thankful that Gene and paul have kept kiss alive all this years. If peter makes any dime in his life is because of KISS. Therefore, he should defend and praise this band past and present. I used to support peter criss music but he is just a loser and he needs to go away and get a life. I've seen kiss play live many time and with singer and tommy they got their best line up ever.

jkat74
jkat74

I'm so happy Peter wrote the "real" book.  Simmons and Stanley are money grubbing whores... Bottom line.  They take every shot possible at Ace and Peter in their efforts to brainwash fans and discredit them. 

Only since his book did you ever hear the truth on how  KISS's success is completely owed to original managers, Neil Bogart, Bill Aucoin, and Sean Delaney.  Their entire stage show and image is owed to those 3 men who have also been discredited as "drug addicts, etc." in Simmons and Stanley's warped version of KISStory.

If anyone thinks for one second that KISS in any incarnation hasn't been riding the coattails of the original lineup for the last 30 years, you've been reading too many Gene/Paul interviews.  I'v been to countless shows in the last 25 years as a fan with 2500 people in an arena that holds 30,000. 

I especially love the part of the book where Peter talks about how corny the new shows are with Paul riding his guitar around the stage while slapping his ass, and how ridiculous they are now.  I was always thinking the same thing.....its a great read, and I still love the band. (at least up to around '82-'83)

Keep the comments coming.... I love this stuff.

kmacdougall
kmacdougall

I have been a KISS fan since I was 10 years old. I am now 47. Most of us wish that the orignal line up was still together. I enjoyed Ace's book very much. I thought it was very even handed in its placement of blame, if you want to call it that, for the reason they are not together. As for Peter I have grown so tired of his constant whining and taking of shots at Gene and Paul. That he would turn on Ace shows who he really is. A total lifelong bitch and malcontent. Peter should consider himself very lucky, had Eric Carr not passed away the Reunion Tour would have never happened and he would';t have had had a second chance to crap the bed and kill the golden goose which is exactly what he did when they reunited.

rickfriel
rickfriel

"Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Mark Twain. A real writer unlike you. You're "stupid", to quote a great.

rickfriel
rickfriel

You don't know anything about Peter Criss or Kiss. It's clear you skimmed the book. You didn't read it. You shouldn't post an opinion of what you know nothing about. It makes you look dumb. This was a hate piece from beginning to end. And for what? Why do that to a person.

How did you get this job?

KISSARMY4ever
KISSARMY4ever

Read the book and decide for yourself. I did. This is the ONLY time we get to read Peter Criss’s side of KISS. Eric Singer had his say yesterday - he does NOT sound like Peter or Rod Stewart - , and KISS announced recently that it is illegal to have a KISS face on a book (what a coincidence!). And before this book came out, Paul and Gene were always saying bad things about Peter (and Ace), and finally, we can hear Peter… who now gets equal time. This book is a MUST READ for any KISS fan, as Peter gives unique points of view of KISS’s history from the beginning through Unmasked.  In conclusion, I like Paul, Ace, Gene, and Peter equally, and their music lives forever.

KG2000
KG2000

This isn't a review, it's an opinion piece designed to discredit the author. This "review" is at least as bitter, if not more, than the accusations waged against Peter Criss and his book. 

elenadelrio2012
elenadelrio2012

I symphatize with Peter. Charity starts from home. If Kiss was indeed a family ... There would be more respect and care between family members. Kiss is a very lucrative business. And it is sad that the charity acts are just to get a nice tax brake and favorable publicity. Wouldn"t you help a loved one? Or a brother or sister before a stranger?

The real men behind their masks are far away from what their fans believe them to be... Sad but true!

And I hope Peter will accept the circumstances and heal inside moving on with his life to a better place surrounded by better quality people. Peace all!

fffghyhjmnnm
fffghyhjmnnm

It just makes everyone look bad. Bands that survive on myth and reputation, or in other words, all of them, should not tear each other down. By the time they are done you really don't like any of them and it affects the way you feel about the music if you associate it with the band's issues.

jkat74
jkat74

"only claim to fame was being first"?  Yeah, that and being in the band when they were the biggest band in the world in the 70's and bringing them out of clubs and back into arenas in the 90's. .... and "failure"? the guys retired and paid in full!  He and Ace had the self respect and dignity to walk from those greedy whores.  Wake up!  Read your KISStory.

KG2000
KG2000

@emusic uhhh.......save it dude. This isn't some fanatical KISS message board. It's a response to a book review. Was the book good? Did it deliver what was promised? Did you already know Peter was a crybaby before reading the book? Did you find his account of the Destroyer sessions to be insightful? Get off the fuckin' soap box and go back to the FAQ. 

kmacdougall
kmacdougall

@jkat74 Yes, Gene's bloviating is tiresome and the stream of merchandising while once kinda cool has become trite as well. Hello Kitty, really? I've always been a Paul Stanley guy, but he's starting to be a bit of a huckster as well. He had a great solo record in 2006 but that street cred is gone. Having said that Peter has done nothing but bitch and complain for over 30 years. It's old. Did he get screwed? Maybe. Does he shoulder much of the blame? Absolutely.  

KG2000
KG2000

@kmacdougall OK....so what does that have to do with his book and this "opinion-review"? If you are going to review a book it should have something to do with the entertainment value....if you are just going to call the guy a crybaby the you are sort of missing the point. It's no secret this book promised plenty of mud slinging and salacious dirt. Did it deliver?......Yes. That's why people want to read it. We all know Pete's been a crybaby for years.....that's sort of a moot point. The discussion should be, did the book deliver the goods when it comes to crazy mud slingin'?

jkat74
jkat74

His last name is Goldberg.... just sayin. ; )

KG2000
KG2000

@rickfriel I looked up this dudes creds...seems he's been doing freelance stuff for a few years. He's your typical snotty hipster elitist. I'm not sure why The Voice would choose THIS guy to review a KISS book. Maybe the Kiss people paid this guy to write a hate piece. Easy money. It's clear that the reviewer doesn't like KISS though. But it doesn't matter, because out of all the reviews, and there have been many written thus far, THIS is the one that KISS ONLINE decided to post on their website. And they chose this one not for it's fairness...but for it's venomous, once-sided bashing. 

mmoch
mmoch

@KG2000 I've read the book also and in my opinion (just my opinion) the review is very accurate. Peter just seems very bitter and twisted. Everybody else seems to be a fuck up, but him.

morgan9496
morgan9496

@13MitredAbbots Agreed. The more books about this band that I really loved, have shattered my illusion about them. I understand they're still basically a corporation, but damn every book that comes out about them just makes them all look worse than before.

emusic
emusic

@KG2000 @emusic Since this is a response to a book review, we are supposed to comment about the "author" as well. Unfortunately, peter criss is not a credible source and people should know about it. He should not be focussing on other people's life and preferences. I don't think that Paul stanley is gay. However, it is up to paul stanley to release this info if he wants to. At least paul stanley has been very respectful to the fans and maintains his private life to himself and only talks about what we care which is MUSIC. All kiss fans knows that peter is just a bitter guy who misses his old job. Kiss is a business just like everything in life and when there are mediocre workers they get fired. Peter should embrace the success he once had, erase the negativity and move on to pursue some positive ventures. I have nothing but admiration for gene and paul because they have work so hard so that peter, ace, and company can pay their bills. Kiss reach the top in the seventies, hit bottom and came back again as a very stable rock group thanks to the hard work of gene and paul. Why do I need to read a book about a loser who wants to destroy the legacy of such as successful company? Kiss is a 40 years old company and peter only worked for 6yr/plus a few reunions. when you look at the picture he has not done much for the band and he does not know much about he band. BTW, you don't need to use vulgar language to reply to my post cause we are adults and I just made an honest opinion about the "author" of the book. However, I won't hate you cause you must like kiss to some degree...so have a great day.

jkat74
jkat74

We never heard ANYTHING about the Destroyer sessions until his book!  Nobody has ever heard anything but Gene/Paul knock around Ace and Peter for years and years.  How about Peter telling us about Bogart, Aucoin, and Delaney creating and financing EVERYTHING! And the two greedy whores kicked them out too!

kmacdougall
kmacdougall

@KG2000 @kmacdougall Other than tell about his fun times with Ace (embarassing) who always seemed to have his back, there's nothing new that we as fans didnt know. Gene likes money and sex, Paul may be a bit effeminate, I've met him a couple times never seemed that way to me and both his wives have been hot, and poor Peter never got his due. Ace's book is much better and fun to read.

jkat74
jkat74

But wouldn't you rather see them stop?  Enough already.... Gene's a fat slob, Paul has tits, Thayer and Singer are total clones of Ace and Peter. Singer even switched to single bass drum for chrissake!  Tommy writes and sings songs about lightning and rockets (remember "Shock Me" or "Rocket Ride" anybody? He even gives the "thumbs up" which was just about a Frehley trademark.  They are killing the legacy all by themselves.... they need no help from Peter or Ace.

Alan
Alan

@jkat74 Wow, learn some facts.  Destroyer sessions are detailed in "KISS Behind The Mask" in which each song is broken down by all 4 original members, Bob Erzin, Aucoin and Delaney.  It is also detailed in Gene's book, and in Ace's book.  Gene and Ace also go into detail about how important Bogart, Aucoin and Delaney were to the beginning of the band.  As for Aucoin being kicked out, just watch the youtube video of Ace explaining that he was pissed after coming off of tour, and finding out that Aucoin earned $1 million for the tour and Ace earned $75,000.  So they fired him.  In Ace's own words.  The only reason Ace and Peter got "knocked around" is because they were high and drunk and letting Paul and Gene do the heavy lifting.  Ace is my favourite in the band, but there never would have been a KISS if there wasn't Paul and Gene.

 

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