Stoya, Pop Star of Porn

The Internet explodes for Brooklyn's own Stoya, America's sweetheart of smut

After one particularly bad interview, "I realized I didn't need to rely on press people not to fuck it up. I can actually talk," Stoya says. When she went straight to the Internet, "It made it harder for people to stay in that mindset of porn stars as people who don't have other options because they're too emotionally damaged or stupid to do something else."

For Stoya, every new sex scene, column, and Twitter debate is an opportunity to obliterate the lines between femininity and strength, sex worker and thinker, porn and art. After years of dedicated training on the lyra—that hoop—stateside, she headed to Russia last year to study with a circus master who spoke no English. "There's a hole in my hand and my muscles are screaming," she tweeted after one session. "It's beautiful." Last year, she donned a Vivienne Westwood dress and read aloud from Supervert's Necrophilia Variations while an unseen hand stimulated her under the table with a Hitachi Magic Wand; Clayton Cubitt filmed her above the waist the whole time for a video art project he called Hysterical Literature (shown on page one). "It's Stoya the porn star being stimulated by the vibrator, but it's safe for work so it can go everywhere!" she says—then makes the sound of the Internet exploding.

On Tumblr, she posted photographic evidence of an ingrown hair her physician extracted from her upper thigh with a large-gauge needle. In a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything), she dished about the realities of bedding a fan: "They were so nervous they ejaculated twice before we even got to any of my holes and I gave up," she typed. "He was super cute though." On Twitter, she discussed edible panties with Neil Gaiman and Wil Wheaton. The fashion photographer Steven Klein shot her with untamed black hair sprouting from her armpits and vagina, her musculature gleaming under a sheen of oil. The Flaming Lips' Wayne Coyne directed her spooning Amanda Palmer naked in bed for Palmer's music video "Do It with a Rockstar." GQ called her the porn-star-next-door who "regularly drops by Brooklyn house parties."

Stoya: “I had no idea how judgy-wudgy the real world is.”
Clayton Cubitt; Fashion styling: René Garza; Makeup and Hair: Katie Wedlund
Stoya: “I had no idea how judgy-wudgy the real world is.”
Stoya playing Marie Antoinette at Molly Crabapple’s art opening
Jennifer Loeber
Stoya playing Marie Antoinette at Molly Crabapple’s art opening

At home in Bushwick, she debates Oxford commas with her roommate, the photographer Steve Prue. Her apartment superintendent, Jorge, styles her hair. She raids medical supply stores for clean syringes, then fills them with glue to carefully appliqué rhinestones to everything—panties, pasties, her bedroom walls. She picked out her apartment colors by the paint-chip names—"Stealth" and "Anonymous"—and enlisted artist friends to paint the black and gray shades in stripes. Then she hung from an exposed pipe to glue rhinestones in the shape of ivy leaves. When Jorge heard she was bedazzling the walls, he rushed downstairs with his own stash of fake gems. And when he found a black-and-white kitten in a shoebox on the stoop, she adopted it.

For the past year, Stoya has carried on an increasingly public romance with another Internet porn phenomenon, carefully editing her vocabulary to fit the venue. Online, she calls him "Daddy," and he calls her "The Prom Queen." With journalists, he's "my boyfriend," the guy who makes her coffee every morning in California when he wakes up at 6 a.m. and she's sound asleep in his bed upstairs. With friends, he's "Brian." On set, he's James Deen, one of 10 performers on her list of approved male talent she's willing to have sex with. At the annual AVN Awards in 2011, Deen chickened out of interviewing Stoya on camera, saying "that girl makes me so fucking shy!" At this year's event, the couple stepped out together on the red carpet, Stoya carrying an Alexander McQueen clutch given to her by Deen. Fleshbot later posted a video of the couple ramming Deen's silicone molded dildo into Stoya's rubber molded Fleshlight, which their fans liked very much. If the Digital Playground contract goes south, Stoya says, "the Internet has led me to believe that I could just work with him for the rest of my career, and that would be fine."

James Deen and Stoya are the Jay-Z and Beyoncé of porn: They don't quite acknowledge their relationship outright, but they drop glittering clues everywhere they go. Through his publicist—he's now repped by Adella—Deen says that "like just about any other celebrity couple in America, very few things are personal and private and James and Stoya prefer to keep the intimate details of their relationship off the radar." But when she gets online, Stoya can't help but explore them. "Over the course of our relationship, I've had multiple conversations with the man I'm dating now about boundaries and feelings," she wrote for Vice. "I call him 'Daddy,' and as you might suspect, there are aspects of power exchange in our relationship. I am his. My body is his, my mouth, vagina, and asshole are his—and my heart is his." In contrast to Stoya's delicate, grammatically precise missives, Deen's Internet presence is all lowercase id. He blogs about butt sex and tweets about burritos. He put his relationship this way on his blog: "i am the only one who truly can have exclusive access to her vagina and butthole."

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coldmanfive
coldmanfive

How dare we have an article exploring the worthless, trashy life of a porn star?  How dare we try to understand that, underneath it all, and despite her career, she is ultimately still a human being and susceptible to the same feelings and emotions you and I share?  America is a sacred land, full of skinny, intelligent people, and it's articles like this garbage that are destroying this fine country.


I remember when fame was limited just to people who deserved it, like Paris Hilton, or Madonna, or the Kardashians.  People whose sex lives were always far out of the public eye.  People who would never even think of making a dime off of their bodies or sexuality.  Those are the TRUE heroes of America.  Not some disgusting woman who sucks dick for a living.  ON VIDEO.


But what really offends me is that, in this same amount of space, I could have been reading about how McDonald's are planning some healthy new menu options, or a review of the newest "Transformers" movie, or even a recap of the newest Duck Dynasty episode, or what Hugh Jackman does in his spare time.  You know, stuff that is worthy of my time and attention.

Instead, I have to read about how some attractive, intelligent woman makes lots of money doing something she enjoys doing and isn't ashamed of it.  I have to read about how someone in the porn industry is, gasp, happy.  How dare you publish trash like this?  How dare you force me to click on this article and read it in its entirety? 


Well great, now you've got me all worked up.  I'm going to have to go to Facebook and play Candy Crush and watch silly dog videos for the next six hours just to clear my mind from all this despicable trash.

Madorion
Madorion

Stoya, you are absolutely beautiful. You have one of the most unique looks that I have ever laid eyes on. You have personally changed my way of thinking when it comes to what is "attractive".  I would walk past a thousand females that were tanned, voluptuous, plasticized, and hornier than a rhino, just to meet you. You make the fair skin and natural body look gorgeous! But, when you smile and laugh.... there are not even words to define how unbelievably beautiful that you truly are. Fuck all of the haters that look down on you because of the business that you have chosen. I have watched your videos and have nothing against the adult entertainment industry. The only thing I dislike about any and all of your scenes is that I am not the one in them with you. Don't listen to all of thoe fuckers that just hate the fact that you get the attention that you do for "what" you do. 

Graf
Graf

You New York commentators come across as surprisingly provincial and 20th century.  Porn is simply the venue through which Stoya has come to pop celebrity.  Frankly, the porn industry hated her from Day One and still hates that she has become its biggest star.  She transcended porn through the Internet and, thanks to the medium on which you're reading this, will be around to bother you for the next twenty years.  She has learned enough about America -- its hypocrisy and contradictions and turn-ons -- to forge a personal connection to millions of people who will never meet her in person.  And she's sufficiently plugged-in to Brooklyn-hipster-bohemia to become one of its touchstones.  Stoya is the new Joan Didion -- deal with it.

punksten
punksten

Jeez. An open-minded, down-to-earth porn star.


This is one of the most empty-headed, vacuous and destructive articles I've ever read about the the porn industry. This writer is actually hero worshipping a woman who sells her body for a living. Porn only reinforces the degradation and debasement of women on a global scale because it's so easily accessible now. 

Did you know that young women feel the pressure to either shave their pubic hair or have "landing strips" because of the porn industry? 

Did you know that dozens of porn stars, both men and women, commit suicide? To become a porn star, no matter how "open-minded" you think you are, requires one to shut off their feelings. That porn star James Deen saying that Stoya's "vagina and butthole belong to me?" That's not objectification?


Yeah, Stoya is so cool because she can hang upside naked from a trapeze. Stoya is so freaking wonderful because she turns down scripts! She's fantastic because she hasn't had breast implants! My heart is racing from how amazing she is.

And she's so "pretty?" Please. Beauty is not only external, it comes from the inside. Guaranteed that if she keeps down this path, in less than five years she'll wind up looking torn up, bitter, tough and downtrodden with sixteen needles sticking out of her arm.

At best, porn is a distorted way of sexuality and male and female relationships. I find it frustrating and disappointing that the Voice, which seems to have those who in pain's best interests at heart, would let an article like this even be written. Porn is destructive to women, it infantilizes them, and helps instill a mentality in men about women being used as come buckets. No talking, no relating, nothing. Just enter a room  and bang, there she is, ready for ou to do whatever you want.

And I'm a man. Porn is just about body parts. You might as well watch "Mutual of Omaha" and see a couple of lions humping. It's more realistic.

lonianderson1979
lonianderson1979 topcommenter

America is a free country so she can do whatever she wants. But, 99.9% of girls that do the same things she does will end up pregnant, empty, diseased, and regretting these choices. Her extraordinary beauty gives her more opportunity than most will get. Also, her smile on the outside might just be part of her marketing strategy to make us think she is enlightened but come back in another 5 years, follow up and see how she is doing then.

Troy0310
Troy0310

Oh Good God-the puritanical do-good, ever-so-hip, New York "I've seen everything, so I have a birthright to bitch about it" crowd strikes again in the guise of a porn debate.  What fucking hypocrites.  Name me one actual life that porn has destroyed-that's just a right-wing, Bible-thumping fantasy that was created by people too ashamed to cover their own behavior.  So, Stoya makes bank as a porn star? Go on, girl, get it-it's your body-too bad that the haters don't get it, and they never will

catalinacruse
catalinacruse

Blow-by-blow description of an interviewee's smoking is way overdone. What's interesting is  the irony of Stoya predicting ass wrinkles  while wrecking her own body (and the atmosphere of wherever she may be) 

Revolutionary would be loving her future self instead of throwing away the older woman like the industry itself does.

 I like her,think she's brave, and hope she does well. As far as  being the cover this week, I like it when the Voice puts something nice to look at  on the cover rather than cringe inducing, as it's staring at you all week from the coffee table.  No one will forget Boston.


puma
puma

Pornography harms women.

Pornography is not fantasy. Pornography happens in the real world, to real women; everything you see in pornography happened somewhere to a real woman.

The pornography industry is a multi-billion dollar global industry.

Pornography exists to make money. It is an industry that chews women up and spits them out; it is an industry where exposure to violence, harassment, injury and infection are seen as normal and acceptable.

Pornography doesn’t expand our sexuality – it stunts it.

Mainstream heterosexual pornography dictates a narrow and limited idea of human sexuality. In pornography, male sexuality is predicated on cruelty, coercion and degradation; female sexuality is predicated on submitting to or appearing to enjoy being subjected to cruel, coercive and degrading treatment. Pornography eradicates women’s sexual agency, and makes it harder for women to find out about their own bodies and their own sexuality.

Pornography portrays sexual violence against women as normal, natural and an inevitable part of male sexuality.

Sexual desire does not develop in a vacuum. The prurient attitude we have to sex in this country, combined with a lack of decent sex education, means that many people use pornography as their primary source of information on what sex is supposed to be like. Mainstream heterosexual pornography tells men that the sexual abuse of women is exciting, and that women enjoy being abused. It tells women that in order to do sex properly, they have to put up with and enjoy such abuse.

Pornography reinforces male supremacy, and the idea that men are entitled to sexual access to women’s bodies.

Men define themselves as being whatever is not a woman, in order to be a man it is necessary for there to be a subordinate group of women for men to compare themselves to and feel superior to. In mainstream heterosexual pornography men are always the active agents and women are always the passive objects. No man in pornography ever fails to get what he wants; the women in pornography exist solely to satisfy men’s desires, they have no will or desire of their own except to service men’s needs.

Pornography portrays sex and women as disgusting.

The words used to describe women and women’s bodies in pornography betray the fact that women and sex are seen as dirty and disgusting by the men who use it: ‘bitch’ ‘cunt’ ‘slut’ ‘fuck toy’ ‘fuck hole’ ‘dirty’ ‘filthy’ etc etc.

Pornography promotes misogynistic beauty standards.

In mainstream heterosexual pornography women are interchangeable, it trains women and men to see a natural female body – one with pubic hair, or small breasts, or any fat – as unnatural and disgusting.

Pornography affects you.

Even if you are not a pornography consumer, a significant number of the men you interact with every day will be. It’s difficult to imagine that a man can spend a lot of time viewing and masturbating to degrading images of women without that pornographic ideology having a negative effect on his view of women.

jake
jake

Porn is soul destroying fascist tyranny that turns humans into objects, destroys spirit, and annihilates love. It's quite fitting too that she's a whore bitch for the maggot financial class and serves as their entertainment. get a self esteem you rag instead of trying to set a world record for loads to the face and abortions. 

dsar9012
dsar9012

This article was just PATHETIC. i can't believe queers care so much about some straight chick whore porn actress. isn't there better news to talk about. 

donb
donb

Stoya is in my top 5 all time adult actresses. I was surprised but enlightened to learn who she is , how she lives, and where she lives.

Thanks to her for the eye candy and to the Voice for the story.

MsBehaves
MsBehaves

Why is this a Voice cover story??? what is this, Complex or something? There is real sh_t going on in this city and you think this is an appropriate cover story. Ugh

sneadh
sneadh topcommenter

I lika to stuffa Stoya!

misslagsalot1
misslagsalot1

Wow, you guys, what's your problem with porn stars? It's fine if you're not interested in Stoya, per se--if you don't enjoy her performances or don't find her interesting as a person, but I don't see what her status as a porn performer has to do with anything else about her. This is a character study piece of a person. So what if she sucks cock on camera? How does that make anything else moot? She's also a well-paid and sought-after performance artist and a human being. Why all the hate because of one of her jobs? I'm disappointed in the Voice readers.

LinsanityMang
LinsanityMang

@coldmanfive Congrats on your masterful use of sarcasm to rebuke these self-righteous right-wing preachers. What ever happened to expanding your mind? Because someone wrote an article about an unconventional porn star, it means they are “hero worshipping” her and anyone else employed in the business?

We are bombarded daily with mindless drivel and a glut of consumerism. I think it’s refreshing that the Village Voice chose to profile a young woman who broke the mold of an industry that is so taboo, its performers are routinely denied service by banks — even though a few of them have better credit than Wall Street executives banging high-priced call girls on the rooftop of their penthouse suite.

Is it better that the media confine such dangerously daring inquiries to the internet blogosphere? No wonder Americans are afraid to ask questions.

Bravo to a progressive publication for putting a human face on a young woman who will be forever be ostracized by social conservatives (who secretly masturbate to ladyboys in the privacy of their den anyway). Maybe if our politicians didn’t give all of our American jobs to China, there would be less “unemployed losers” jacking off to porn in their mother’s basement and less “struggling actresses” trying to put food on the table using the oldest profession on Earth.

puma
puma

@Graf Are you joking? She's a prime example of what Didion was condemning, dummy. If she was male, she'd be Nietzsche's "Last Man". And instead of trying to rationalize her appeal to yourself just say you like beating off to her and be done with it. 

samsel
samsel

@Graf Is your post satire? I'm honestly not sure. At any rate, thanks for the laugh.

sagemaria7
sagemaria7

@punksten You're right. Deciding how and what women should be able to do is much less offensive than consensual on-camera sex.

MarleysGhost
MarleysGhost

@punksten Spot on. Before you know it her light will go out, she'll get that worn out, beat up, meth head, stripper look, and wind up putting a  gun in her own mouth. And James Deen is a fucking jackass. As someone below pointed out, that sack of shit is so deluded he actually compared his amount of IMDB credits to Al Pacino and Paul Schraeder. Sorry James, but the size of your cock is not equal to your merit as either a man or a human being. 

blacksocialist
blacksocialist

@punksten hahahaha..... grow up loser.... you anti-porn folks are just pathetic.... it's called sexuality... it's called sex... get you some ni**a.... it's not going anywhere loser... it will be here FOREVER... guys will always want to fck broads, even ugly broads.... guys will ALWAYS jackoff to porn.... ALWAYS.... it's not going anywhere loser.... get used to it... porn is sexuality, it is not distorted sexuality... whatever that means, of course... porn is about body parts... who writes such dreck... oh, i know, a delusional loser.... kisses

MarleysGhost
MarleysGhost

@lonianderson1979 She's already empty. The only thing available to fill her up is cock and cum and probably a shit load of cocaine and meth. 

Donny
Donny

@Troy0310 Porn is capitalist exploitation at it's worst. It commodifies and perverts one  of the most basic aspects of our humanity. It's fitting though that she allows herself to also be exploited by another of the worst forms of capitalism: wall street. 

Chomby1
Chomby1

@pumaWhat the hell are you talking about? Do you have that diatribe saved somewhere to cut and paste  on any comment section that mentions a pornstar? 

"In mainstream heterosexual pornography women are interchangeable, it trains women and men to see a natural female body – one with pubic hair, or small breasts, or any fat – as unnatural and disgusting."

You do realize that Stoya is one of the TOP adult stars today and she has pubic hair and small natural breasts, right?


Chomby1
Chomby1

@jakeWhat a scumbag you are. On one hand you tell her "get a self esteem" but then directly follow it with an insult ("you rag"). You blatantly say she needs to raise her self-esteem as a point you are trying to make, but then are the prime example of someone who would take her esteem away.


Very telling on the kind of person you are. You probably beat your kids on Christmas morning in front of the presents .

NatalieDWest
NatalieDWest

@jake I've never understood the appeal of watching 10 guys spray their loads onto the face of a woman.  Or, more importantly, why a woman would be willing to allow 10 guys to cum all over her face?  There is not enough money in the world that would convince me to get on my hands & knees and let numerous men cum on me.  Truly degrading and disturbing.

Chomby1
Chomby1

and BTW nice homophobia thrown in there. You may as well went all the way and spewed some racism as well.

Chomby1
Chomby1

@dsar9012Yeah! They COULD report on what dsar9012 is doing...but a loser venting rage in a comment section is not all that interesting.

leahkoons
leahkoons

@MsBehaves  Because Stoya is an interesting woman who embraces everything she is and wants to do. Because people are interested in her. If you dont like it, dont read it, and go write the cover story YOU would want on here. Ugh.

Samwise
Samwise

@misslagsalot1 I wouldn't go so far as to call it "hate" when in reality it's just harsh, but quite warranted criticism. We Americans are invested in meritocracy and unfortunately for them when porn and reality TV stars are being praised or written about in a way that was historically reserved for people who make substantial contributions to society it undermines that system and upsets our view of reality and in turn we're going to shit on them for it. Also, on some level we all know that this kind of thing is a sign of decadence, decline, and inevitably death and that's another reason it elicits such a negative response and backlash. If anything the latter is a sign that you're still healthy and aware. 

MarleysGhost
MarleysGhost

@blacksocialist @punksten Wow, that's a mature response! Only a porn addicted half-wit LOSER like you would struggle like you did to rationalize what is essentially degradation of the entire human species, and especially of women. And if you can't tell the difference between sex and sexuality and pornography then you are even more sick and diseased by it than you even know. Blame cunts like Stoya for why you're such a pathetic piece of shit. 

Troy0310
Troy0310

Bullshit-You're just jealous because you're not getting any.  Quit hoping for Occupy to save your ass-get a job, girlfriend, and life, loser

Troy0310
Troy0310

More BS created by Christian fundamentlist whackos that hide the fact that they are fucking their own daughters.  It's just too bad that I'm smarter than you are, especially if you believe that crap.  No, I don't need to read it-I know the truth

jake
jake

@Chomby1 @jake I get it, you like beating off to her. Anything else? 

jake
jake

@leahkoons @MsBehaves Yeah, she's a liberated woman.....LOL. 

She's a whore and worst of all a whore for banksters. Fuck her and everything she stands for. 

Sal99
Sal99

@leahkoons @MsBehaves Who are you? Her agent? After what went on in Boston just last week you really think this is a good cover story? And she's not interesting and a weak performer. She's the typical hot chick who think here mere presence is enough to turn you on and get you off. I've seen her with Deen whom they hype as the porn version of Brad and Angelina and they have zero fucking chemistry on screen. 

misslagsalot1
misslagsalot1

@Samwise@misslagsalot1So to you, making pornography isn't a contribution to society? Pornography is a form of entertainment that's been with humanity for longer than written language and is still more universally popular. Just because you don't think it has merit doesn't mean it doesn't: that's your opinion. People have ALWAYS been intrigued by sex and sex workers; this is not a new phenomenon. Porn stars, at least most of them (Stoya may be an exception in this regard), work very hard to earn their livings and are constantly heaped with criticism for doing legitimate work that is consumed by millions worldwide. From my point of view, giving someone who does something that has historically been considered "shameful" a chance to stand in the spotlight is a sign of social progression, not of decline or inevitable death. Sex workers of all kinds enjoying social recognition, financial freedom, and yes, even stardom, rather than being shunted off into the dark, seedy corners where they've often been relegated, is a step forward. Not back.

jake
jake

@Chomby1 @Sal99 @leahkoons @MsBehaves  Yeah, she's the first hot chick to suck a cock in a porn film. Absolutely fascinating!

Chomby1
Chomby1

@Sal99 @leahkoons @MsBehaves LOL when you can't accept something you got to play the "oh-you-must-be-her-agent/boyfriend/manager/whatever" card. Just deal with the fact that she is interesting.

Samwise
Samwise

@misslagsalot1 @Samwise And just to make this clear, I think porn has it's place, but that's not in the mainstream of society or to be praised as somehow worthy of recognition. You are essentially a prostitute and if not for some legal rangling a few decades ago that's what it would still be. 

Samwise
Samwise

@arasm13 @Samwise Women's number one complaint about porn, much like they complain about the modeling industry, is how they can't measure up to the unreal standards that porn stars and models create. It's not just women anymore either. Men are suffering from the same comparisons to the physicality of male stars. This destroys intimacy and relationships. Studies done show that long term consumption of pornography changes the brain in the same way long term drug use does. Both are illusions but when the illusion is superimposed over reality to such an extent it confuses people about what is real and what is of true value. 

Samwise
Samwise

@misslagsalot1 @SamwiseNo, dear, the very last thing I am is a social conservative, have definitely seen my fair share of porn, including Stoya who is a bore compared a lot of other female , and I don't object to porn on religious or moral grounds but rather the mainstreaming of it has cheapened and coarsened our entire culture, has commodified sexuality, and destroyed male/female human relationships due to the overt objectification that is it's hallmark and that is how it leads to the degradation of society. In a sense it is creating a political and social collapse. And what vaccum of shame and taboo does porn operate in anymore? NONE. A porn star is the cover story for this paper; Sasha Grey appears on the view; James Deen is written about in People Magazine.  And that in and of itself is the problem. And of course Ive seen mainstream media lately and porn actresses communicate the same kinds of messages to young women that advertising and the modeling industry and worse and you know it. The number one complaint women have whose partners indulge in porn, especially against their wishes, is that they feel insecure and do not measure up. 

misslagsalot1
misslagsalot1

@Samwise Your talk of values rings a "social conservative" bell in my head... but surely one of those wouldn't willfully seek out, read, and commenting on a feature story about a porn star on the Village Voice. As to your "criminals" comment: porn is legal. I do not see how porn stars and criminals should be on equal footing. You're implying that porn performance is criminal. It is not.
I fail to see in any of your words why porn actors "belong" in back alleys. How exactly do porn actors lead to the degradation of society by having sex on camera for money? Is their sexual performance somehow related to economic collapse? Political breakdown? Disease? ...or moral panic?
I'd venture to say that in a society where porn performers were permitted to speak publicly, in which people took them seriously enough to have an open discourse about porn versus real-world sex, pornography would have very little power to "destroy" intimacy and relationships. In the veritable vaccum of secrecy, taboo, and shame in which it operates now, it is much more powerful.
And, I must ask, have you seen any mainstream media lately? The messages therein are far more harmful to young women's self-esteem: porn employs women of all sizes, shapes, colors, and preferences. Magazine covers, Hollywood movies, television, and advertising do not.

arasm13
arasm13

@Samwise I'm not sure what studies you are reading.... There are numerous studies that contradict every single thing you've said. While porn is not as discussed openly in female circles it is still very widely watched.  Women generally are more active in making up sexual fantasies as well, think romance novels, as to your claim of unrealistic standards for women in regards to sexual roles.  Also porn has been proven to HELP couples who are struggling, creating a healthy bond.  Why? Because the strain of indulging in porn while trying to cover up watching it from your spouse is exhausting. THAT is what hurts relationships in regards to porn. Not the watching of a video.  one spouse or the other being false about their own sexual actions always leads to problems.

Samwise
Samwise

@misslagsalot1 @Samwise It's only a sign of progress in a society whose values have been completely undermined, relativized, and inverted and that is all inevitably decadence and subsequent decline. Someone below brought up Manson's "the beautiful people" and yeah, "Capitalism has made it this way" And by your logic(or point of view)we might as well give criminals a place in the sun too. It's really no bother or regression if we relegate porn actors to the back alleys and dark corners of society where they actually belong. We already have the data on how pornography upsets relationships, leads to unrealistic standards for your average women to live up to, destroys intimacy, and ironically, the male libido for his real world partner. With that being said, I don't want to see porn made illegal but mainstreaming it has already been totally destructive, especially to young women. 

LinsanityMang
LinsanityMang

@misslagsalot1 @Samwise the point you make about Hollywood cannot be emphasized enough — since the subject of this article was the first one to make it. Somehow, the message flies right over the heads of Samwise and company. Numerous porn stars do what they do because HOLLYWOOD REJECTED THEM. Their boobs weren’t big enough. Their boob job was too big. They weren’t tall enough. They have a tattoo. Their butt is too big. They just didn’t have “the look.” They aren’t WHITE enough. They aren’t ‘urban ghetto baller hip’ enough. Their voice is too high.

Well... you get the picture. But it doesn’t mean they can’t still make “motion pictures.” The old life gives you lemons adage applies. And now punksten and puma are going to sh!t all over them for that, too.

 
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