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Cam'Ron: Killa Season Has Begun

posted: 3:00 PM, January 25, 2006

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"Special secret about Hell Rell below"

Cam'Ron Press Conference: Highlights
Tribeca Theatres
January 25

The Dude Next To Me. Kept farting. Wouldn't stop. Did the thing where he opens his legs so much that he cut into the leg space of both people next to him. Farted five times.

The "Get 'Em Daddy (Remix)" Music Video. They kept screening this on the projector to pass the time, which, for better or worse, led me to the realization that "Get 'Em Daddy (Remix)," which features a bunch of dudes hanging out in the rain, standing on tops of buildings and rapping, is the Dipset version of P.O.D.'s "Youth of the Nation."

Killa Season Movie Trailer. Five or so minutes long, wherein the Dipset crew are rolling dice in a back alley that has access to an enormous flood light. Cam in voiceover introduces the cast of characters: Juelz is the gambling referee--"I love that nigga"--and has a piece of paper jammed up his nose (nose bleeds); Tyrell (sp?)--"He's like the hood internet"; Hell Rell, no lie, is wearing a bucket hat.

Cam's turn to roll, he obviously wins. But when he's collecting money a dude who bet $50 said he only bet $20 (since Susan Blond screened the preview four times in a row too, it was obvious that said dude had bet $50, a detail that speaks to Killa Season's potential replay value). That guy gets huffy, Cam says he's out and moves out of the group, then comes back and slams a bottle of Sizzurp over the guys head, kicks him, then pisses on him-- "no homo." Cut to the rest of the trailer: lots of COPS-style teasers, lots of punching and a pretty hilarious scene where Cam throws a guy into the trunk of a car, then pours into the trunk a box of rats.

Says Cam, the movie's going to be 10 parts--about growing up in Harlem, trafficking heroin, a mixture of Boyz In The Hood and Menace 2 Society, on the East Coast.

Upcoming Diplomats Projects. The movie comes out April 25, the soundtrack album comes out May 9, there's a tour that starts March 27, JR Writer's full-length comes out June 27, Hell Rell's comes out Independence Day, Cam's launching killacam.net, which will screen music videos and let you buy new Dipset merch, there's something called Platinum they're also doing which I think might be another drink or some sort of essay-writing service, also there's going to be a DVD about child molestation, raising awareness about all the "perverts out there": "The DVD is gonna be crazy."

Jay-Z etc., etc., etc.. MTVnews got Jay-Z to talk, and really that's what people wanted to hear now, not Cam analyze his own motivations for dropping the record or share his battle plan. Honestly, didn't seem like he wanted to talk about it much more either: "I'm not gonna keep beating up on an old man."

Interesting, he doesn't think "Gotta Love It" was a dis track, Cam. He was just "telling it like it is" apparently: "If I say someone looks like a camel, he looks like a camel." He encouraged everyone to go back to the track and find something that wasn't true.

Didn't want to talk about the diamond being thrown up--actually got caught in a huge contradiction when somebody asked him about the hold-up, whether it was random or premeditated. Also shared that he might have to go to jail for 30 days if he fails to comply with DC cops--he's refused to talk about the shooting, provide details of the shooters, etc.

As for whether the dis was a publicity stunt, Cam was quick to point out that Killa Season hits in four months, not in a month, and "I don't need a publicity stunt--I'm me." He didn't really talk too much about whether he wants Jay-Z to reply or not, since again it's not a dis, or in other words: "I flew the plane into the towers. Do what you're gonna do." Silence.

Biter vs. writer, Cam spoke on it, but didn't articulate a good line except to admit he used to steal from the greats too--"I fell into a pattern of thinking that was cool"--and when he did it, he was trying to throw the lines back on the original artist, not just ride them for himself, and definitely doesn't have eight minutes of examples. People over here might disagree.

Boring Rap Politics Stuff. Juelz not allowed in the Def Jam building; Jay-Z's Charli Baltimore thing; Jay signing Nas and how that's a good look for Jay; how Cam didn't have a physical relationship with Beyonce; Jay's sales records with Young Gunz and Memphis Bleek, and how they pale next to all of LA Reid's numbers; in general about how Jay-Z is overrated, given too much credit as a businessman (Cam credits his appearance on Rap City, when he said Jay was a good businessman, as the inspiration for "I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man."), etc. Fair enough?

One Thing Jon Caramanica Noticed. Cam was wearing Rocawear boxers.

Comments

Any photo evidence for this boxer thing, that could blow the game wide open. And, just for the hell of it (!!!) -- what brand of socks did Rell rock?

Posted by: Max B aka That Dude at January 25, 2006 4:46 PM

Man, that bucket hat shit makes me so sad. I was such a fan of his signature eyebrow-height backwards fitted. To be fair, he is hardly the first rapper to make that mistake, Jay included. And really, if you can have "Florida chicks comin' to New York for the dick" and still wear a bucket hat, then more power to you.

Posted by: Andy at January 25, 2006 5:49 PM

cam's swagger jacker is like two minutes long, and almost every example comes from his nas diss. and the "jacked" lines were clearly references to very well-known lines. and then the last few were juelz, so that's not really a good angle to use against cam.
another thing-- i love how rappers constantly diss each other and then refuse to admit that they have, or to say that they have beef. they'll always call it a "situation" or something. and then they'll be like, "i don't have a problem with dude. it is what it is. so it ain't really beef at all, it's just that he a b**** a** n****."

Posted by: staxwell at January 25, 2006 9:06 PM

The Roc-A-fella era is over and it ended when Jay-Z got 2 greedy and started thinking about his self.Roc-a-Fella was about family working together for a better cause(To Get Money And Never forget were you came From).Jay-Z forgot about that when he made it to the top and he's trying to take credit for everything from The Roc-A-Fella label to the Rymes he stole from B.I.G. The DipSet era begain's with a fight for the truth!!!!!

Posted by: The CMD King at January 26, 2006 3:31 AM

The DipSet era is here and here to stay nothing Jay-Z has to say is go to change that!!!It's 2 late he's 2 old and the DIPSET is 2 hot!!!

Posted by: C.E.O. at January 26, 2006 3:39 AM

Why any moron would pay attention to these idiots is a question for the ages.

Posted by: at January 26, 2006 8:42 AM

Just admit most of you ahted wjay-Z when nas dissed him, but love him now. I swear I hate "net-nerds"

Posted by: Joe Schmoe at January 26, 2006 3:26 PM

Ya fella's defitnately got it twisted. Jay was ROC-A-Fella. He consistantly moved million plus albums for that label.Memphis bleek, and Beanie were barely going gold. They were so-so rappers, but when you compared them to Jay, they were Bo- Bo rappers.As far as Cam is concerned, his flow is weak as watered down vodka. With those bullshit ass elementry " See spot run rhymes. He has no real wordplay or talent. He does'nt consistantly make hit's.He's fucking with God M C. Cam is a Idiot boy. He invited Jay to a gunfight but came with a watergun.....Foolish Mortal..

Posted by: jazzlen breeze at January 26, 2006 5:22 PM

Jazzlen Breeze you a dumbass dude.You obviously don't listen to Cam's lyrics cuz they hot as hell.If you actually understand them.

Posted by: DipsetAholic at January 27, 2006 4:18 AM

Jay is one of the games most legendary mc's,he has so many #1 hits.I respect him as lyricist, even though he was crushed by his new label artist,and my favorite rap artist nas.I thought cam had some potential when first started,but now all that pink panther sh t! and that rolly polly holly molly sh t! he's getting wak.I do respect his savy business moves and how he can hustle people with those wak ass rhymes. That's what's up! phenom newhaven ct.

Posted by: phenom at January 29, 2006 9:21 AM

Jay is one of the games most legendary mc's,he has so many #1 hits.I respect him as lyricist, even though he was crushed by his new label artist,and my favorite rap artist nas.I thought cam had some potential when first started,but and that rolly polly holly molly sh t! he's getting wak.I do respect his savy business moves and how he can hustle people with those wak ass rhymes. That's what's up! phenom newhaven ct.

Posted by: phenom at January 29, 2006 9:23 AM

jay'z is one of the games most legendary mc's, even though he got crushed by his new label artist ,my favorite rapper nas.I think lyrically cam should be in fall back mode.I thougt cam had potential when he started but,all that holly molly rolly polly sh t! is complete garbage.I do respect his savy businees moves and the way he hustle's listeners with those wak lyrics,that takes skillz. phenom. newhaven ct.

Posted by: phenom at January 29, 2006 9:37 AM

jay'z is one of the games most legendary mc's, even though he got crushed by his new label artist ,my favorite rapper nas.I think lyrically cam should be in fall back mode.I thougt cam had potential when he started but,all that holly molly rolly polly sh t! is completely weak.I do respect his savy businees moves and the way he hustle's listeners with those weak lyrics,that takes skillz. phenom. newhaven ct.

Posted by: phenom at January 29, 2006 9:40 AM

I gotta agree with phenom, Cam definetely has skills whne it comes to hustlin listeners, cuz nuthin the nigga says makes sense. Jay's the best rapper alive and now that he has Nas on his label, just proves his business savvy. It doesn't take a genius to understand cam's dumbass lyrics and a man that wears pink and purple and has to put the disclaimer "no homo" on every other word he speaks has got something to hide.

Posted by: Nessia at January 31, 2006 1:26 PM

As far as lyrics & battling go; Cam'ron doesn't stand a chance against Jay-Z's skill. Don't get it confused because Im a longtime fan of both, actually I think Cam'ron always has been one of the top mc's in the game but as far as wordplay, pound for pound, bar for bar, he's no match for Hova. If Jay chooses to respond to the diss my prediction is that it won't be pretty!

Posted by: Street Pete at January 31, 2006 4:35 PM

The whole situation is Jay-Z needed to be exposed, the dude does fradulant shit and it never gets talked about. So Cam put his ass on blast. He's been down playing Cam'ron for ever. The truth hurts..if Jay-Z's so great put Cam to sleep then! He won't reply because the shit is all FACT! Cam also has Dame in his corner. Nobody knows Jay better then Dame. Like Cam says, "Jay-z's Carlito, Cam's Benny Blanco, He dies, We live". Jay underestimated Cam so know he has to pay for it.

Posted by: Certified Dough Getter at February 1, 2006 2:07 AM

wut is Nessia talking about???
who plays with words more than cam.
thats even part of the reason why yall dumb ass niggas dont like his rhymes.
All dat wordplay requires u to think and dats something yall find hard to do.
i cant believe all these stupid comments

Posted by: sam at February 2, 2006 8:04 PM

yall cats is suckas man if yall was some real street niggaz and jay played yall like he did dame and cam yall would wanna get at him. Personnally i respect cam i feel like jay always been jealous of this nigga because he always pumped bleek to be the second coming of himself and never panned out, but when cam came cat had a hit single and went platinum and its funny that jay, kanye, Clue, and cam are the only artists on rocafella to ever go platinum and jay was jealous that dames protege (cam) went platinum and his protege (blee) never did thats why he didnt want cam to be one of the presidents of rocafella. why wouldnt you give rank to a cat thats making you money, and bringing more fans and success to your label... JEALOUSY.

Posted by: Gleam at February 8, 2006 7:22 PM

killa cam, scrilla fam,dipset are taking over, killa season straight platinum come april, i got camrons back all day every day, no homo!

Posted by: killaT at February 9, 2006 3:35 PM

Jay Z aint the greatest alive. That title belongs to Nas. And I think that Camron is really gonna catch it because since he done disses on Nas, I predict Nas is gonna get at him this time. I think that it is gonna end up a Jay z,Nas vs Camron,Dipset. And wat does Camron have to talk about if Dipset Jacked Their swagger from D-Block?? That gunplay stuff was always a D-Block thing. Thats why D-Block always came ontop of dipset. But when it comes to the end of it, Camron signed his own death wish.

Posted by: Thermoe at February 11, 2006 10:06 PM

Its Dipset all day Jay z swagger jackin aint no motha fucka deservs respect if he takin other people style that aint cool and cam makes sense its just some of yall iz 2 slow 2 get what he sayin listen n understand then u goin b like o shit!

Posted by: Anthony at February 13, 2006 12:46 AM

...a!..i don't think everybody is seeing whats really happening.It's not a question of whose a better rapper..or who can out flow who..This is just Cam saying "I'm the same Cam from Harlem that i've always been, and always will be"..See, Cam and Jay have never goten along..but Cam is Dame's boy..so of course he signed to the ROC,......But wait..he wasn't just another potential star like Beanie, or Bleek...no..Cam set it the fuck off..Not only dose he go Platinum but he introduces a family of sucker-free rappers that brought a force to every real hood out there..See, Cam isn't ignorant because of his slow rhyme pattern..He is communicating with some of the most hood ass communities and letting them relate to his hood and his style of gettin money..he dosent sugar his shit up for MTV or all the suburban kids..and he still went platinum! im not hating on Jay, i believe he is the greatest rapper of his time...just like BIG in his time...but times change....Bottom line is Cam is just doing cam...and if you dont know Cam or understand Harlem and the whole ByrdGang movement..then your not open minded..now whos being ignorant...Lets not forget how truly real Cam is as a person...He just got shot in D.C....not seven years ago like 50cent...With that being said...i hope we just don't loose sight of reality...i will leave yall with this..."Six thru me back
a few they clap
but i ate those...them shits was scooby snacks"
Real reconize real...this is the whole V.A!....

Posted by: V.A at February 14, 2006 1:00 AM

dipset is the shit if u can understand what they are talking about,his rhymes DO mean something. and if u listen to the song called swagger jacker it will be obvious to you how jay-z owes most of his success to old school rappers whos lyrics he stole... its about 8 min of lines jay-z stole from other rappers, it has the original rapper say the line then shows how jay-z used it.

Posted by: at February 14, 2006 10:23 PM

P.S. YAH V.A.!! YOU TELL EM HOMIE!

Posted by: at February 14, 2006 10:26 PM

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Posted by: at February 15, 2006 12:09 AM

HOva is weak. WHoever named him best rapper was drunk. He's not better than little wayne or juelz. And Cam'ron roasted him. Listen to Swagger jacker and you gotta love it. Just listen to that shit. Jay Z is alright, but he aint the best. Cam killed him. Cam honestly says some weird shit, but alot of it makes sense. His style is different. Jay z is weak. DIpset all day bitch

Posted by: DK at February 15, 2006 6:05 PM

dip set is pussy

Posted by: at February 16, 2006 8:24 PM

camron is my nigga he is the best rapper out right now when he dissed jayz he killed him and all yall bitch ass niggaz who said camron is wyack yall dont have the right to say shit cuz i dont see yall out there spitting making millions of dollers ayear and killa I got u i rep harlem and i copped all ur cds and i looking foward to the next one dipset dipset niggaz harlem stand up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: at February 18, 2006 1:09 AM

Hov? Fuck Hov. Killa Cam is the best and always will be the best. all yall fake nigaas fall back. The movement is here. DIPSET all day Bitch.

Posted by: Da Kidd, Moe at February 20, 2006 8:27 PM

all yall hatin on cam need 2 get off jay-z's dick cus dat nigga is a swagger jackin wannabe hood bitch. N all u who say Cam's flow is weak das jus cus u dont understand wa his sayin cus u 2 busy listenin 2 dat jay-z suburb rap. 99 problems but a bitch aint 1,das cus dat nigga is gay. Go cop a purple haze cd den get bak 2 me on cams flow,"canary burgundy i got it lemon-red yellow diamonds in my ear call em lemon heads,lemon head end up dead, ice like winnipeg,gemstones flintsones u can say im friends wit fred"

Posted by: Dipset 4 EVA at February 23, 2006 8:42 PM

Jazzlen Breeze,Breeze ya stupid ass up on outa here,you ain't hood nigga.Then bitch ass Phenom don't know what the fuck he's talking about this nigga never heard a 16 his life,you pussy man. As far as Nessia goes what the fuck is you anyway, a dude or a chick,when you get a real name then you can start dissin Killa Cam. Street Pete The only Street you been on is the fucking suburbs. If any of yall niggas got beef Holla Back, this Da Kidd Moe, DIPSET BITCH!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Da Kidd, Moe at February 24, 2006 10:25 PM

Listn Btiches .. ya'll gOt it all tWisted
Jay-Z knoes that he cant dO shytt cuz he a pussy && we all no its true! their not fake itt Facts
Lemme break it dOwn fOr ya'll Cam is Cam Killa Cam aint polite if he thinks it so well its sO
understand that! And Jay-Z is just some jeLous old man..all of Dame'z proteges Went PLAtnIUm and wat did Jay-Z get .. nOTHinG _ sO if yA'll dOnt get the kIlla Cam 101 ur STuPid .. Like hOw can yOuu even brIng this up .. DipSet is hOtT they're wat Jammin in The cLubs and Roc-A-Fella Aint! .. sO get this DipSet Bitch fOr lYfee .. the crOwn is Ours`z .. Killa Cam is da Killa Nigga .. No HOmO .. DipSet
if ya'll still cant feel da dips than u gOts issues

Posted by: Killa Cam fO LiFe nigga! at February 26, 2006 12:18 PM

i cant blieve ppl are sOo stupid .. Jay-Z aint wit rap nO mOre . Cam'Ron`s watts hOt, we all no Cam is Cam Killa aint gOnna change hes da bOii staright up frOm HarLem always gOnna dO his thanG. and if he thinks sumtin he says he aint gOnna act polite if it bOthers him in wunn of his songs it quotes "niggas tryin to make killa cam all polite" dOnt FucK let hiim Be ..Get this the niggas gOt every singLe reason to be mad&&start beeF! cuz Jay-Z takin Dame's credit .. get this JAY-Z is Old DEFENSLESS and knOws dis shytt Is TRUE .. he juss some jelOus oLd ... So Fellah`s and HunniiE`s DIMPLOMATS ARE HOT . CAM'Ron is Cam'Ron no matTa wat he aint no kissin ass nigga (thatswatulovebOuthim) and DIpSet fO-Ever BItches . DipSet Bitch
No Homo and if ya'll dont like this shytt which is true fo yOuu haters press the fuckin X button nD DIpsET

_DipSet

Posted by: KillaMamii at February 26, 2006 4:38 PM

Have a nice day

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