lifegoeson8@gmail.com,

Your post is honestly a bit incoherent. But I do gather that you consider yourself a Scientologist of 30 years and are happy with your choice.

Such is your decision. But as an ex-Scientologist myself, I can tell you that I sympathize with Jason Beghe. It isn't until you've had some time out of Scientology that you begin to see how different reality actually is.

Ask yourself: being "OT 5" you long ago passed clear. Is your memory perfect? What was your mother wearing at your 4th birthday? Do you ever get sick? Do you wear glasses?

How could Xenu drop bombs on an island that doesn't exist for millions of more years?

Ever disagree with *anything* read by Hubbard?

But you wouldn't really ask these questions, would you?

The techniques used to make Scientology seem so insightful are well understood by the scientific community as "cognitive dissonance".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

I strongly recommend that you read this link!

It's been used to keep you "in" for 30 years. You've indoctrinated your children in it. And today, you wouldn't even consider critically analyzing your belief system. You wouldn't even consider the truth: that Hubbard took "psych drugs", that Dianetics is not at all scientific, that your "church" practices institutionalized kidnapping and gross profiteering.

As much as I sympathize with Beghe, I feel for you ten times more. You've been had, and don't even know it.

lifegoeson8@gmail.com - your comment is nothing but one long ad hominem accusing Jason of being the archetypal disgruntled employee. He has every right, as testimonies like these show;

exscientologykids.com

As for brainwashing - it doesn't happen in the way you see in the movies, but it DOES happen. Gradual indoctrination and created dependence would be a better way to describe what Scientology does to its followers.

I always had a feeling the Scientology thing was a cult now its good to know its been proven!

JJ

http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

I don't know the man or the author of this bit of Entertainment News.

But I can give you my take on it on its face value. Generally... pretty sad.

What is Jason Beghe upset about exactly?

Maybe it's because of all the people he left behind who are allegedly "brainwashed", that he has some sense of responsibility for?

That overused hackneyed term can be easily addressed and shown to be false to some one whose only source of information is the Entertainment News page and they are honest and able to discern truth from fiction or... sour grapes. After 14 years Jason Beghe knows that that accusation is a bold face lie. Yes ... simply stated, a lie and he knows it is such.

Maybe it's because he spent 14 years learning the philosophy and application of Scientology techniques so to reach the very respectable level of an "OT 5 auditor". But perhaps discovered he was not up to the challenge. Failing to honestly achieve the level he says he did, must mean, of course that everyone else is a "brainwashed, robotic version of ..." themselves. Maybe that is why he is so upset?

Maybe it's because his success as a celebrity auditor was in his eyes a sham? And to all those fellow Scientologists, friends and associates who were earnestly and honestly going about their lives. Failed to see this embarrassing truth, that he is not "the poster boy for Scientology". Being almost caught in a lie day in and day out can be quite stressful. Maybe that is why he is so upset?

Maybe he is upset because he should have left sooner?

Maybe he is so upset because the Church followed thru on his request for a refund?

Maybe he is so upset because besides his wife no one followed him out the door?

Maybe he is so upset because after 14 years he realized he was never as sincere as he thought he was and that it took him 14 years to figure it out. That's got to be embarrassing or at least it should be if he had some pride.

Maybe he is so upset because the Entertainment News reporters who he is telling his story to, don't care a lick about him, his wife or his story beyond how it furthers their own narrow goals of a paycheck.

Maybe he is so upset because no matter how resolute, how adamant he is, the more reporters he talks to, the more videos he places on You Tube... he knows that he can only be "right" by diminishing himself. The bigger the media makes him the smaller the man he proves himself to be.

Maybe he so upset because his story was placed next to "Ivana Trump Gets Married' ? Next to Katie Couric Exit: A Pile-On."

This can go on, I'll stop here with this confession. I'm a 30 year Scientologist and I'm OT 5.

My wife and my daughters are Scientologists, we haven't been brainwashed to believe that we were not brainwashed. The lessons I learn in Scientology, the tools I apply to my life have made me and my family happier and willing to help others who honestly desire it.

lifegoeson8

People who get involved in bullshit like this are assholes to begin with. I don't want to hear about how brave this nutjob is. He spent 7 years with a bunch of con artists and mental cases and he says it took him 3 years to get disillusioned. Like Jack said "Go sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here!"

ps - mr. beghe still shows signs of being a moron - it's not clear that he gets it. that stuff just reeks stupid silliness! i don't know how people can even admit to being sucked in without renouncing the whole deal. maybe when he rids himself of the old vocabulary and stops saying things like "i got the greatest fucking auditors" (what?!!) maybe then i could listen. "sit still" and "confront" in order to "clear". yo L. Ron: it's called meditation. holy moly.

like this is such a revelation. take a walk down hollywood blvd past the "church", past the l. ron hubbard "museum", past the "celebrity center", past the e-meter gang preying on immigrants and others who obviously want to belong or find a path to success and get a clue: cult. if it's such a wonderful beautiful thing why does everyone have to pay so much money to share in it? a friend of mine went to one session and was stalked for months to return. they even called her roommate trying to get her to go back. spooooky!

Many years ago I received a long psychological survey in the mail from Scientology. I shrugged and filled it out, curious to see what they would do. I got a call from a woman who told me all about myself. I asked her, "Why are you doing this? You're not non-profit, so what do you want to get out of this." She had some benign spiel and I decided to go check them out. I paid like, I don't know, $40 for a class and saw a video in a darkened room and then went to some classes that were just plain weird. They wanted you to follow this book and try to use rocks to represent your thoughts. That was quite enough for me. Some time passed and I saw my psychiatrist for obsessive-compulsive disorder (I'm otherwise sane) and when I told him I tried Scientology, his expression and demeanor changed rapidly, he was very alarmed. He asked, "You didn't put my name and number on your paperwork, did you?!" I told him I had. He told me to stay as far away as possible from that cult. He said he has another client that he was helping to deprogram and the Scientology goons haunted him, calling his house all hours and just harassing him! They didn't bother him on my account but I was just a small-potatos client, only signed up for one class, I meant nothing to them. Needless to say, I never went back.

Nice try sb but you left in the > from when you copied your dictated response from your email.

I had a hard time reading the article through all of the profanity Jason uses and I'm shocked that the Village Voice would publish that. It shows what a vulgar guy he really is and not believable. It does not surprise me that he is manufacturing dissatisfaction with the church at this time to use this as opportunity for some publicity to recover his acting career.

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> With everything that California is confronting between immigration, taxes, Presidential elections - why would the Village Voice waste their time on issues like this that are just meant to upset others and discriminate against one religion. Jason had his choice of being a Scientologists or not - he decided not - it appears many years ago.

Mr. Jason Beghe,

You are a true hero! Thank you for speaking out when so many others are afraid to. You are a strong brave man and I thank you for that!

Thank you to the Village Voice for interviewing you. You are right about the recordings! I was on staff at Celebrity Centre International and I know for a fact the auditing sessions are taped. This is because the Religious Technology Center and the Case supervisor wants to make sure your auditor doesn't apply the technology wrong, but it also ensures pure control over your cycles and "how" you are handled later on.

The information can and does get used against you. It is a very controlling mechanism.

Thanks again to you Jason. You are doing the right thing and you have a lot of support!

If it is true that celebrities are keeping quiet because they've been intimidated into thinking that Scientologists have hidden video dirt on them, then they should know that there are safeguards for that kind of extortion. Hidden video without consent is a crime in California. And if this allegation is true that the Church has been doing this, then they should be scared as Hell to be holding on to any hidden video or audio. Taping conversations without consent in California is what WIRETAPPING is, that is what the Pellicano trial is about. Celebrities should talk to their lawyers about the process the court goes through to protect the privacy of wiretapping victims so they are not abused by the very thing the crooks held over their head as a threat. In the Pellicano trial notice that the victim's wiretapped conversations are not being shared with the public, only the clients who hired him.

If they used hidden video and taped these sessions without consent then the FBI ought to raid them. Hidden video violates California's wiretapping laws. These guys could get in as much trouble as Pellicano. Worse even.

Best wishes to Jason for employing "Freedom of Speech." He will do more for a better world through his brave actions than any rallying on behalf of the Cult of Scientology ever could. Another hero for us all! (Hat's off 2 U)

I applaud you, Mr. Beugh. Far too many people share your feelings on this cult-like organization and are scared to speak for fear of retaliation from the supposed "church."

You are a very brave person to be willing to come forward and speak, and you are continuing to help give a voice to those who are still silent in the shadow of Scientology's human rights abuses.

Village voice? You guys rock! I congratulate you on *not* being intimidated by Scientology. Tony Ortega deserves a medal.

Mr. Beghe? Thank you for speaking out and welcome back to IRL society.

Congratulations on your break from the CoS, and I, too, applaud your courage in speaking out about your experiences. I can't be alone in having always wondered what attracts and holds actors and celebrities to CoS, and it turns out it's what I always expected: gladhanding and blackmail.

Good luck with your new deal, and thank you.

Our hero! Welcome back to the world, Jason. May your future be full of opportunities to tell the world what a money grabbing evil cult this is.

Good luck Jason :D

I've enjoyed this intense actor since Monkey Shines. I can imagine when he looks in somebody's eyes it does seem as if he's looking in your soul.

I applaud his bravery in telling the truth of his experience. I'm sure there is hardship in his future because of it, but I also hope there is great reward, as well.

I look forward to enjoying a less "glassy eyed" Jason Beghe performance soon!