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Judy Gooding 08/20/2010 11:58:00 AM
Dear Steve,
I rarely find myself having such an intense emotional response to a situation in which I have taken no part. Don't get me wrong, I am compassionate and empathetic, and hopefully "of use" to friends and family members in times of need.
Your story however, has left me contemplating a side of this coin that I had never considered. I have the utmost respect for you, as well as your lover and friend. I cannot imagine a circumstance in which loyalty and selflessness could be any more apparent, and most unfortunatley neccesary.
I am reeling over any insinuation that you should have "charged" with anything in this matter, and can only assume that the people responsible for such comments have never sat by while a loved one suffered beyond what our comprehension would even allow us to ponder.
You see, 13 years ago I witnessed the suicide of my fiance' and it has obviously had a lasting effect on my psyche. I cannot help but wonder why more people couldn't leave with the GRACE and COURAGE it must have taken for Tom to reach his decision...
What your story reveals is not even in the same REALM of what society has termed suicide, and should not be classified as such. I awoke to a thought last week, and wondered where it came from and why. I believe I now know.
My thought was this:
"I never want to be so desensitized by this wicked world, that I forget what it feels like to hurt."
I applaud you, and I sincerly Thank You for sharing such a personal triumph. One could only aspire to LOVE as you LOVE, and Tom was a truly lucky man to have shared his life with you.
Judy Gooding
Honolulu, Hawaii
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susan 08/10/2010 10:32:00 AM
I wish that I could find friends of my brother, who lived in L.A. He was important, and I really can't believe he'd be completely forgotten. Don Amador friends where are you?
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papa_j 08/07/2010 11:12:00 AM
To Mary's comment:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this as murder. I hope the police get involved and prosecute. I was shocked to see this article on thebody.com , a resource site for those surviving and living with HIV/AIDS. It's not the right message for that site.
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MEHMET KURUTUZ 07/27/2010 10:44:00 PM
Hi Steve,
Since I've read your article I cannot stop thinking about it. I'm a writer myself and I'd like to turn your story into a screenplay if you're OK with it. Please contact me when you get a chance.
Thank you.
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Mary 07/23/2010 4:19:00 AM
What about the police investigations? I was wondering about the part where he put and tied the two bags over his lover's head--isn't that considered murder?
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Towanda Anderson 07/14/2010 6:55:00 PM
Hi Steve, I didn't turn on my computer with the intent of reading your artile but somehow it appeared and as I began reading, I couldn't stop. I honor and appreiate it so much. I have often had onversations with my signifiant other about end of life choices. although, she finds it hard to discuss and usually quickly changes the subject. Loved your article and I completely RESPECT the very difficult decision the two of you had to make. Please, don't feel any guilt or remorse for doing what had to be done to end your partner's suffering. My God, how much should one have to take. He is a beautiful soul and so are you. He gave you his spirit as a gift, WOW. love towanda
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rick thomsen 07/13/2010 7:57:00 AM
Your story was very touching. Me and my partner dont have hiv or aids but have known many with it. It has to be hard for a person to go threw that with someone they love after looking so long for your love of your life. Your story makes me want to give my partner a kiss and hug because your story just shows how much determination it takes to really be in love.
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papa_j 07/02/2010 11:32:00 AM
Let's not call each other names. I thank God that during my time on the respirator, my family chose life. I wasn't expected to survive.
The choice to "give up" and the suicidal element make this story more about resignation, hopelessness, and self-pity. In the end, there's just guilt and shame.
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Steve Weinstein 07/01/2010 11:21:00 PM
Lois: I mention Compassion and Choices in my article. Yes, a wonderful organization that is fighting the good fight for aid-in-dying laws like the ones in Oregon and Washington in all 50 states. It's not easy, with religious organizations fighting them every step of the way.
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Steve Weinstein 06/29/2010 8:18:00 PM
Although I respect PapaJ's right to his opinion, I have to laugh at his comment that if Tom had just "accepted" his death, it would have magically happened. Anyone who has experienced the agonies of a loved one in the hospital, hooked up to respirators and IVs and begging to be free will know the irony of that statement. At the beginning of the epidemic, in desperation people turned to hacks like Marrianne Williamson with her New Age hoo-hah about embracing AIDS (righteously satirized in the play "Jeffrey" & elsewhere). I'd like to think we've moved beyond that nonsensical AIDS-Speak.
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TJ 06/29/2010 8:31:00 AM
The poster knowns as Papa_j_is_adick is a typical Neo-Marxist, leftist gay fascist who wants to silence anyone who doesn't agree with him. These fascists want to tell the rest of us how to live, think, talk and live. These leftist gay fascists are more obnoxious than the "moral majority," the Republicans, and the born-again Christians that they spend so much time hating and bashing!
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Bernie Klein 06/29/2010 6:40:00 AM
I congradulate Steve for sharing this story and for having the courage what needed to be done for his partner. If our culture could outgrow our fear of death and accept it as normal step of life we would have laws that allow doctors to end their patient`s suffering when the patient asks for it. Very telling that the doctor in the story could only talk about continuing to fight the illness rather than accept his patiet`s wishes to die and end his suffering....there`s that denial of death.
Even the laws in Oregon, Washingto, & Montana only allow assisted suicide for "terminally ill, six or less months to live, so Tom would not have qualified even there since his doctor said his "vitals were strong". Outside of AIDS, we also have what I call the 'CINT's Chronically ill, not terminal. These people suffer miserably everyday, have no quality of life, wish to die, but are not allowed to. So they suicide. Either by themselves, with a friend like Steve, or with knowledge gained thru the book "Final Exit" or gained thru contact with groups like the Final Exit Network.
Bernie Klein, Ann Arbor
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barnaby 06/28/2010 4:18:00 AM
This is somewhat scary, especially the part where he reflexively gasps for air. This is a good case in favor of assisted suicide and I thank you for promoting such a selfless act. I'm sure even if a miracle cure-all had come out 2 weeks later, you still would not regret what you've done.
Also, it's 'flesh out' not 'flush out,' you annoying, self-promoting, pseudo-Doctor. Spoils the mood of the entire article more so than the troll who cried murder.
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Dr. Richard Ferri 06/28/2010 3:43:00 AM
The damnedest thing is that i have written the first tell all book out this this common practice and my experience in it that has been bounced around from publisher to publisher for two years now. It is a dame shame since "Wounded Healers" is a written novel that was lived as in reality. As a well known advocate clinician and leader i put my balls on the line yet publishers keep on backing out at the last minute. I suppose i could tone it down but do not expect that to happen; anyone want me to flush out more details I am your man.
www.RichardFerri.com
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Papa_j_is_adick 06/25/2010 9:17:00 PM
Papa_j, do you think that your own experience with HIV/AIDS gives you the right to judge others, on how to make their own choices about their own lives? People like you amaze me - you are gay, HIV+, and went through AIDS, yet it taught you nothing about letting people choose for themselves how to live their lives. How do you like the "moral majority" / the Republicans / the born-again Christians and all other kinds of bigots telling you how to live yours?
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papa_j 06/25/2010 7:13:00 PM
Wow. There's no way in hell I, or anyone that I know could possibly do such a thing. AIDS did not kill your partner - YOU did. I'm shocked that you're not in prison.
Having survived my own AIDS close call, and even losing my own brother to AIDS, I certainly understand the hopelessness and agony of your situation. But even as you struggle to live with your guilt, know that acceptance is a key stage in death. It means you can let go and let die, without assisted suicide.
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gingerandjazz 06/25/2010 4:09:00 PM
I read this article during my usual perusing of The Voice at work. I couldn't stop the tears from streaming down my face, and could barely disguise how choked up I was during the calls I was making. This was so moving, and brings such a human perspective to the euthanasia debate. Thank you.
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Lyn 06/25/2010 1:26:00 PM
Dear Steve, I work for a Christian HIV organisation in South Africa. Thank you for this touching and thought provoking article - for reminding me again of the immense complexities and challenges of dealing with HIV and AIDS. I pray for peace, love and health in your life!
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Daniel 06/25/2010 12:20:00 PM
Thank you Steve. I never talk about it but something similar happened to me when my first partner died in 1992. He was very sick and just wanted it to end. As much as I wanted us to be together as long as possible, I have to admit it had become very difficult, but I would have endured more just to be able to still be with him. He was fortunate enough that he had a friend who was a doctor and helped him end it faster. I was with him when he left as were 2 of his brothers, all of us knowing how it had happened. It was very comforting that it could happen that way and that he died when he was ready. Your story brought back these memories. It's hard to not be able to talk about it. Thank you again.
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~Caso 06/25/2010 9:52:00 AM
In approx 1992 my cuz was dx with HIV He and his partner were together for over 10 years, had one falling out and my cuz nicki got Aids. noone in the family would have anything to do with him after that.. his own brother pushed him away. I watched him go down hill and waste and die the most crewl and horrid death. I watched the family in servere denial, and his long time partner suffer a broken heart. His long time partner was eventually Dx with HIV and passed a few years later. I named my second son after my cuz.. Dominic.. my prayers to all who have to suffer, and to those who have to sit back and helplessly watch it happen. ~Caso
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Les 06/25/2010 6:15:00 AM
I am 65 yo & nhave been pos. for 10 years june 2011 & on med's for 5 years, I fought going on meds which was probably a mistake but what is, is! So far I'm doing ok, I have sme problems but dealing witrh them as best I can. At any rate your story really touched me & I hope if the time comes when my life is impossible to stand ie. pain & suffering I will have the strength to let go as your lover did. He was very brave & obiously loved you very much but i'm sure he would want you to try to lead a happy & fulfilling life. All the best to you, my heart goes out to you & thanks again for sharing your story!
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Steve Weinstein 06/25/2010 3:39:00 AM
Steve, I feel for you. Stay strong. There are organizations, websites and books that can help you. Don't make any rash decisions that you or your loved ones will come to regret, please!
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David 06/25/2010 2:49:00 AM
Very moving, I cried as I read it. My heart goes out to you. I too lost the love of my life to AIDS. My life is not the same anymore, all I can think of is Rudy. I'm very sad now, I miss him so much.
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Steve 06/25/2010 1:14:00 AM
As someone who has had to make these plans for myself I can say that I completely understand. I have enough drug mutations now that I am one drug away from not having any treatment options. There are so many days of being functionless and miserable that the mental strain of suffering is worse than the pain of the illness.You have done the right thing and I hope that those of us that remember how it was in the 80's never forget how important it is to have the option terminating our own pain and suffering.
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Steve Weinstein 06/25/2010 1:00:00 AM
Thanks Gary. Coming from you, that's a real compliment! To Scott Finnell: Yes, that's probably the main reason I wrote the article — because, as Dr. Grossman said, no one should have to go through what we went through. "Euthenasia," BTW is considered a no-no by the "dying with dignity" or "right to die" people, as is "assisted suicide." Seems kind of p.c., but words have meaning, I guess.
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06/25/2010 12:49:00 AM
This is one of the saddest stories I have read. I think his partner was so brave. He was completely justified in helping his partner die with dignity. I think this is where our country is so behind the times. Oregon has the right law in place, and the country needs to play catchup. Euthanasia is justified and moral. Unfortunately, we live in a religious crazed country that thinks suicide is a sin. I think it is a sin to let someone live in agony. The people that fight against euthanasia laws are healthy and happy. They will find out one day when there time comes. Most doctors will help a person die. It isn't talked about. It is hush, hush. We need to talk about it, and we need to make it legal so it isn't done in back alleys. It reminds me of the debate on abortion. They used to be done in back alleys, and it was dangerous. We need euthanasia to be safe and legal.
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jjb 06/24/2010 11:59:00 PM
Steve ~
My heart goes out to you. You are very brave, thoughtful and caring. Having taken care some of my friends who were dying I can relate to your situation. You did the right thing and Tom is still smiling at you for it.
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Topher 06/24/2010 11:14:00 PM
How beautifully tragic. In 95 my friend/partner suffered from end stages of AIDS, and mutiple oportunistic infections. The hardest thing he said he ever had to do was to ask me to help take care of him till he crossed over. The pain was excruciating and equally horrible to watch a person you love die in such a manner. Before he entered this stage he always said he would exit by his own hand when the time came. His other friends and family convinced him it was spiritually wrong and so his sufferring endured for two years before he was called home.
Your story brought all those memories back, and I commend you for your effort and the love you had for backing his choices. Such a beautiful exit letter he left you.
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WN 06/24/2010 9:44:00 PM
Very sad but understandable. Maybe if it was today, he might have gotten help from all the new medication around.
I hope his soul is resting in peace.
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Gary Ekman 06/24/2010 9:14:00 PM
Wonderful article, Steve. I've thought about this issue (self-euthanasia) a lot and this article really explored it. You're an excellent writer.
Best,
Gary Ekman
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Steve Weinstein 06/24/2010 7:02:00 PM
Thanks for the comments. To "meech": In the space allotted for the article, I couldn't go into much detail about Tom's drug regimen. I mentioned in passing that none of the anti-retroviral "cocktails" then coming onto market were working with him. You're certainly right about one thing: If he had seroconverted only a few years later, he probably would be alive today. That said, it's also worth remembering that people are still dying of AIDS, gay and straight, in America and (especially) abroad.
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Phil 06/24/2010 6:36:00 PM
What a very moving story. It brought all the memories of my partner and his death with AIDS. He was so stong and his biggest concern was me. I lost him in 1990 and my live has been ever so empty since. I think of him and miss him everyday. I am now 64 years old today and I miss him as much as I ever did. My best to you and I send my thought of Love to You!
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pork 06/24/2010 12:52:00 PM
beautiful and courageous. thank you.
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mecch 06/24/2010 12:47:00 PM
Its a moving article. However, missing are more precise dates and treatment information that would tell the story in the context of the times. Tom seroconverted in 1992 and died in 2001. 1995/1996 marks the development of HAART. No mention of HAART in this article, if Tom was on it, or not, and why or why not. Saying he didn't respond to the "drug cocktails" and with no dates. Surely by the late 90's there were tritherapies available to help.
This comment is just a reminder that in 2010 a reader should not take Tom's story and apply it to general experience of living with HIV in recent years.
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gerardo torres 06/23/2010 7:17:00 PM
Hello and thanks for writing this very moving article, and for continuing to discuss this topic. For a few years I had to stop reading or talking about this topic, a very personal one. The pain was too great. As a sixty six year old Puerto Rican gay man, I have had to bury too many of my friends, and none of these burials were disconnected from the larger social/political experiences related to the disease and to being gay and Puerto Rican in the USA.