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Shutting Upstate Jails for City Kids Has Made a Fiery Bronx Bureaucrat a Host of Enemies

People upstate consider the Bronx's Gladys Carrión Satan incarnate

Rory Kurtz

For decades, this state's rural counties could count on one cash crop never failing: a steady harvest of New York City's convicted criminals being sent north for incarceration. Many local upstate economies are built on reaping that rich yield, which is particularly abundant in its brown and black varieties.

Gladys Carrión: Bringing kids home and making enemies upstate
Willie Davis
Gladys Carrión: Bringing kids home and making enemies upstate
Tryon Boys Residential Center, now bereft of inmates, but not of union employees.
New York Office of Children and Family Services
Tryon Boys Residential Center, now bereft of inmates, but not of union employees.

Governor Nelson Rockefeller did his part, providing the fertilizer that assured there would be no shortage of new shoots springing from the city's soil. His notorious drug laws are synonymous with an overreaction to drug use; in his 1973 State of the State speech, he argued for life sentences for juvenile drug offenders.

But if Rockefeller plowed new ground, it was Mario Cuomo who made sure upstate counties were ready for whatever the city could gather: During the time he was governor, from 1983 to 1994, the state added more prison beds than all the previous governors in the state's history, combined. Cuomo built 29 correctional facilities—28 in Republican districts—and more than a dozen juvenile facilities as well. Overall, the state's prison population increased fivefold, and the juvenile population had its own steady increase.

Over time, two things became apparent: First, that conservative, upstate Senate districts were becoming as addicted to the jobs and money that come with prisons as any heroin junkie; second, that just about the worst way to deal with juvenile crime in New York City was to send young offenders to the dangerous hellholes that pass for juvenile facilities upstate.

Gradually, over the past decade, the city began sending fewer kids to places like the Tryon School for Boys, which was renamed the Tryon Residential Center to help rid itself of the stink of incidents like the 2006 death of inmate Darryl Thompson, who stopped breathing with two prison guards holding him down in handcuffs.

But even with fewer inmates going north, there was simply too much history of upstate's addiction to downstate miscreants for any major change to occur. Young offenders were still being sent upstate so that facilities built by Mario Cuomo could continue to justify their large, well-paid staffs.

And then suddenly, three years ago, like a plague of locusts, something showed up to put the entire cash crop in danger.

That something was a compact, tough-talking Puerto Rican woman from the Bronx named Gladys Carrión.

You may not have heard of her—people upstate, however, consider her Satan incarnate.

She's the commissioner of the Office of Children and Family Services (OCFS), a $4 billion agency that oversees foster care, adoption, and juvenile delinquency in New York State. Horrified by what she found in facilities upstate, Carrión set out to close down the most egregious juvenile centers and rid all facilities of the worst kinds of practices for physically restraining kids.

Tryon is a good example. Long known as the worst facility in the state and a place that only turned troubled kids into even worse adults, Tryon was successfully slated for closure by Carrión; it will close permanently in January.

Today, Tryon Boys has no more inmates, but as the Voice first reported and The New York Times later confirmed, Tryon's last few inmates were being watched by 129 employees, who still work at the empty facility.

Locked into union contracts that tie her hands, Carrión has no choice but to keep on a full complement of employees at Tryon until a year after being given notice that the facility will shut down (half have now taken voluntary reassignment).

She wants to shut down many others. In fact, what makes her so unusual is that it's hard to remember any government official who so ardently wanted to put herself out of a job: She is systematically dismantling significant parts of the state agency that she oversees.

And for the upstate districts that have, for so many years, relied on the hellish system that preceded Carrión's tenure, she must be stopped at all costs.

On a May morning, Gladys Carrión, 57, shows up at Midtown's sleek Pfizer building to deliver a speech. She is wearing a business suit and elements of her typical look—light turquoise eyeliner, and bright red star-shaped earrings the size of quarters. She is so small, at only about five feet, that she just barely peeks over the podium.

After thanking former District Attorney candidate Richard Aborn for the speaking invitation, she gets right into trashing her own agency: "In New York State, the juvenile justice system is broken—by any standard." She then launches into a litany of grim statistics that she brings up just about everywhere she goes—about how 80 percent of young people in custody are substance abusers, 65 percent have mental health disorders, and 89 percent of boys will be rearrested for a felony, many within six months of being released.

She grows visibly upset, as if she herself were hearing these statistics for the first time: "Some of my facilities are toxic for children!"

She sounds like a typical anti-government activist, railing at the system. But then you remind yourself: She is the system.

Even before Carrión arrived to take over OCFS, it was obvious that the state's juvenile justice system was in serious trouble: Recidivism rates had hovered around 85 percent for a decade, the agency didn't have a single full-time psychiatrist, and the federal government had announced it was launching an investigation into child abuse in four troubled facilities (including Tryon).

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  • Loammo2bl 10/30/2011 5:13:00 AM

    I complained about one horrible Adult Foster Care home and now I am the defendant; the situation is my son is now blind from starvation; we never see him again - Mount Pleasant Michigan Mental Health attempt to cover up -petitioned that parents are culpable in fingering Mental Health Director for moral standards - applied ethics, moralitybusiness ethics study of [Business Ethics, Fifth Edition Manual G.Velasques, p. 8,11,16;]; See Staten Island retardation Willowbrook

  • Wycca101 06/10/2011 3:36:00 AM

    This is biased, dishonest reporting at its worst. One can only hope that when one of these "poor little darlings" murders their next victim, rather than it being one of the OCFS staff, it is a family member of the author. Let's see how cool she thinks bright blue eyeshadow is as she is burying one of her family members killed by a sweet litte juvenile offender- and believe me, they wouldn't think twice about committing a crime for a one dollar bill. Propaganda, and garbage

  • Cattaraugus 03/14/2011 9:09:00 PM

    The first facility that she closed was in Cattaraugus County. It was the only facility to serve the 8 most western counties in NYS including Buffalo and Niagara Falls. It was the nicest and newest 25 bed facility in the agency in line with the Missouri model and averaged only 12 physical restraints per year. Did not make much sense...

  • Florencemcmartin 03/05/2011 11:54:00 PM

    Very good self serving article. Why not include the murder of a staff that is directly related to the commissioner. Sorry, New York City publication taking care of its own. Did you ask about her putting a facility in NYC to buy support. Oh, again, doesnt fit your lies, I mean story. Try be unbiased and print the truth. At least some truth.

  • Jennifer 10/21/2010 8:41:00 AM

    B.P. first of all did you not know anything about OCFS before you started working there or were you blindfolded? There may indeed be a big difference between the youth and adult correctional facilities but I'm certain its not like night and day and one deffinite part of the equation is the money. Cameras are put in place to protect both the staff and occupants of the facilities, so that's a no brainer. Another commentator wrote "blacks and Puerto Rican" lets not ignore the fact that all latinos are not Puerto Rican though black can cover a large arrary i.e. American, Jamaican, Hatian, Afraican... etc. Lastly there is diffinitely when there is a staff of 129 employees in a facility that is more than have empty, unless they are volunteers which I find hard to believe.

  • Jennifer 10/21/2010 8:41:00 AM

    B.P. first of all did you not know anything about OCFS before you started working there or were you blindfolded? There may indeed be a big difference between the youth and adult correctional facilities but I'm certain its not like night and day and one deffinite part of the equation is the money. Cameras are put in place to protect both the staff and occupants of the facilities, so that's a no brainer. Another commentator wrote "blacks and Puerto Rican" lets not ignore the fact that all latinos are not Puerto Rican though black can cover a large arrary i.e. American, Jamaican, Hatian, Afraican... etc. Lastly there is diffinitely when there is a staff of 129 employees in a facility that is more than have empty, unless they are volunteers which I find hard to believe.

  • BP 10/20/2010 7:09:00 AM

    Just to let everyone know that I used to work for OCFS at the facility that the inmate was married at. I now work in the department of Corrections. The difference is night and day. Inmate have structure, a well defined program, and rules they need to follow or penalties will be enforced. The problem with Carrion's Sanctuary model is that it is based off of a sexually abused women's model attempted to be used with young men the ages of 14-20. The camera's she put in were not to help out staff, but to monitor all staff. Even if an allegation was made and on camera there was no harm to the youth, Carrion gave specific directives to move the staff off the unit and investigate. Does anyone know how actually hard it was to work in a environment, were a young adult male could walk up to you and punch you in the face and he would recieve no type of ramifications. Maybe we shoudl ask him why he did that after blood is pouring out of your nose or maybe after we pick up your teeth. The bottom line is Carrion is trying to close down all the facilities or make them worse off than before. She will attempt to have the young adults go into communitty service programs with help of the state government and go back to the boys and girls club were she came from and get more government assistance. Just like her brother stole from the federal government???????

  • BP 10/20/2010 7:09:00 AM

    Just to let everyone know that I used to work for OCFS at the facility that the inmate was married at. I now work in the department of Corrections. The difference is night and day. Inmate have structure, a well defined program, and rules they need to follow or penalties will be enforced. The problem with Carrion's Sanctuary model is that it is based off of a sexually abused women's model attempted to be used with young men the ages of 14-20. The camera's she put in were not to help out staff, but to monitor all staff. Even if an allegation was made and on camera there was no harm to the youth, Carrion gave specific directives to move the staff off the unit and investigate. Does anyone know how actually hard it was to work in a environment, were a young adult male could walk up to you and punch you in the face and he would recieve no type of ramifications. Maybe we shoudl ask him why he did that after blood is pouring out of your nose or maybe after we pick up your teeth. The bottom line is Carrion is trying to close down all the facilities or make them worse off than before. She will attempt to have the young adults go into communitty service programs with help of the state government and go back to the boys and girls club were she came from and get more government assistance. Just like her brother stole from the federal government???????

  • Betsy 10/20/2010 5:42:00 AM

    This women is phenomenel! My hat goes off to her. There are sprawling correctional facilities for adults occupying upstate NY which generate a lot of income for its residents and business itself. These facilities for youth offenders are a spin off of the money making mills of the adult correctional facillates, but unfortunately they are run at the cost of our young. It's disgusting to even hear that there are facilities that are overstaffed because of union contracts. I don't like the idea of anyone losing their bread and butter, but lets all be reminded that these facilites are to operate to save our young. Though some may not "make" it they are our future and as adults we have to protect them rather than see them as a money making opportunity. It is a sad but true article. Ms. Carrion has alot of guts to fight the system. Some of the comments I saw regarding this article were not good but just by the context I could see where the persons heart and mind are so I quickly concluded that their remarks were not concrete but ignoranct and plain old stupid.

  • Betsy 10/20/2010 5:42:00 AM

    This women is phenomenel! My hat goes off to her. There are sprawling correctional facilities for adults occupying upstate NY which generate a lot of income for its residents and business itself. These facilities for youth offenders are a spin off of the money making mills of the adult correctional facillates, but unfortunately they are run at the cost of our young. It's disgusting to even hear that there are facilities that are overstaffed because of union contracts. I don't like the idea of anyone losing their bread and butter, but lets all be reminded that these facilites are to operate to save our young. Though some may not "make" it they are our future and as adults we have to protect them rather than see them as a money making opportunity. It is a sad but true article. Ms. Carrion has alot of guts to fight the system. Some of the comments I saw regarding this article were not good but just by the context I could see where the persons heart and mind are so I quickly concluded that their remarks were not concrete but ignoranct and plain old stupid.

  • Fred 08/31/2010 9:20:00 PM

    A very good article an i'm very glad at all that glady's is doing an also did! Just like another person wrote the employees upstate find another job or do something else.Your damn facilities weren't worth sh"T they didn't help the kids in many instances! The only thing those jails did when teach the kids to commit more crimes so they would be charged like adults an keep the big house just rolling on! All good things come to an end an all of the workers have been living like fat rats but its coming to an end! Let the white kids who get locked up go to rikers island! I luv u gladys!!!!!!!!!!

  • Lorenzo Steele Jr 08/30/2010 4:22:00 PM

    oh

  • Jonathan Schiff 08/15/2010 10:37:00 PM

    I've worked in the field of child dependency/abuse/neglect as an attorney, prosecutor and guardian ad litem for almost 30 years. i wish we had a Ms. Carrion in Cincinnati. I wish we had one of her everywhere. All we see these days is the steady erosion of support and funds for human needs. Instead the prison has become the program of choice for all social ills.

  • antonio 08/13/2010 9:22:00 PM

    Gladys Carrion is a fighter, no doubt. Also she loves "her people"like an extended family. Nothing wrong with that.She could not digest the blantat abuse to the juvenile population more than 90%blacks and Puerto Rican. The bussiness behind this agencies is obscene using as raw materials those who are more vulnerable in our "civilize" JudeoCriastian society. Ofcourse she is steppingin some ,very sensitive toes, but , it seems there is not other way to minimize a litle bit the deplorable situation of this young people.Until We do not face the race and economic probles in the city and country, the problem wont subside, nothing will change.This case reeks hypocricy and racism all over. The exploitation of one group by another is nauseatingMs. Carrion is a brave and courageous woman, desserv all our respect and admiration. sincerily Antonio Garcia

  • Irv West 08/12/2010 6:52:00 PM

    I worked as a counselor for 4 years at an upstate detention facility. There was little blatant abuse, but I frequently witnessed a callous attitude by staff. One staff member had an exemplary record, unitl he committed statutory rape with an inmate. prior to this, to a girl who said her life was worthless and that she was thinking of killing herself, he said "go ahead, do it." The kids we serviced ALL had an island of strength... a passion for something in life. When I helped them to recognize it, then build on it (it often took time, they had become insulated from life), they blossomed, and never acted out with me. But the director once told me that she and I would never get along because she is "correctional" and I am "responsive." she was right. There is probably good and bad in Carrion's approach. Before we decide to "take sides," to embrace or condemn her, we should focus on the needs of our youth, and how to best meet those needs. Tryon, for example, needed to be closed.

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  • Gary Fields 08/10/2010 9:06:00 PM

    Ms.Dwoskin has once again demonstrated her incredible ability to get to the heart of both sides of a complex story. She educates while drawing the reader into this juvenile justice system dillema, and makes the reader evaluate his or her own prejudices. Bravo!!! And thanks.

  • Upstate Worker 08/10/2010 8:08:00 PM

    Total misrepresentation of upstate facilities. We have one of the best programs in the agency. FIRST AND ONLY Juvenile Justice facility to be certified in the Sanctuary Model. She is closing our facility. She has never stepped foot in our facility. We model exactly what she is speaking of and what she wants for the kids of today and still, she is closing our doors. None of it makes any sense. I can see the argument of not wanting to send children from downstate to upstate. That is fine, but guess what? Kids upstate get into trouble too. Why can't we house the upstate children and help these children closer to home? Where they are going to be sent? Downstate? Why is it okay to send upstate children, downstate? I just hope no one else gets hurt while all of this goes down and hopefully come January we will see some positive change.

  • celestino puga 08/10/2010 7:06:00 PM

    the people that put the most effort in their jobs are the most likely to be attaked by those that benefit of the taxpayer wasted money how come only the v.v. brings out stories like this out in the open maibe the publisher of this paper is not bodi bodi with any politician in this money wasting city wy should politicians care they have the home,car,workers,and smokers to rip off of their hard erned money.

  • VILLAGE VOICE LOVED USSR 08/10/2010 5:51:00 PM

    dont forget----THE VILLAGE VOICE LOVED COMMUNIST CHINA AND RUSSIA IN 1960S AND 70S----AND REGARDED ANYBODY WHO BADMOUTHED COMMUNIST CHINA AND RUSSIA AS NAZIS!!! very typical of the village voice. back in the early 1980s the voice also had articles about how mike tyson would be better off with promoter don king---cause tyson's handlers at the time were white, and...ALL WHITE PEOPLE R EVIL, EVEEEVILLLLL!!!!!

  • kate 08/10/2010 4:25:00 AM

    PS: This is the perfect example of BS sells and desperate politicians will continue to use the media to mislead the public.

  • Kate 08/10/2010 3:14:00 AM

    What a bunch of crap. Get the facts right before you print stuff like is. This is nothing more than a Commissioner who failed miserably trying to garner public support for her failed policies. This article is nothing but a manipulation of the facts and abunch of lies to mislead the public. Disgusting, makes me want to puke!!!

  • Kenneth Brynien 08/09/2010 7:36:00 PM

    This portrayal of Gladys Carrion as the scrappy, virtuous, urban Latina commissioner standing up to the bigoted insensitive white upstate OCFS employees is unjustified and defamatory. I take offense both personally and on behalf of my members (some of them white and upstate, none of them bigoted or insensitive) for this representation. To suggest that anyone who disagrees with her “lacks morale fiber”, what arrogance! While I cannot hold the Voice responsible for misrepresentations by Ms. Carrion, the Voice has made some glaring mistakes of its own. When Ms. Carrion took over she did bring the media into facilities, not the allegedly “hellish” facilities as you indicated, but rather some small well run, noncontroversial facilities which she then proceeded to close. These facilities were much like the enlightened facility in Brooklyn that you highlight in your article. This year Ms. Carrion has closed the one facility in the country that is certified in the Sanctuary Model. The only problem with this program is that it was upstate, sin enough in the eyes of the Commissioner, and apparently the Voice. Upstate juvenile residential centers are not, as the cover illustration suggests, Siberian gulags. Playing the upstate/downstate card in this manner is just cheap sensationalist pseudo journalism.

  • Kenneth Brynien 08/09/2010 7:03:00 PM

    This portrayal of Gladys Carrion as the scrappy, virtuous, urban Latina commissioner standing up to the bigoted insensitive white upstate OCFS employees is unjustified and defamatory. I take offense both personally and on behalf of my members (some of them white and upstate, none of them bigoted or insensitive) for this representation. To suggest that anyone who disagrees with her “lacks morale fiber”, what arrogance! While I cannot hold the Voice responsible for misrepresentations by Ms. Carrion, the Voice has made some glaring mistakes of its own. When Ms. Carrion took over she did bring the media into facilities, not the allegedly “hellish” facilities as you indicated, but rather some small well run, noncontroversial facilities which she then proceeded to close. These facilities were much like the enlightened facility in Brooklyn that you highlight in your article. This year Ms. Carrion has closed the one facility in the country that is certified in the Sanctuary Model. The only problem with this program is that it was upstate, sin enough in the eyes of the Commissioner, and apparently the Voice. Upstate juvenile residential centers are not, as the cover illustration suggests, Siberian gulags. Playing the upstate/downstate card in this manner is just cheap sensationalist pseudo journalism.

  • Greg 08/08/2010 8:11:00 PM

    gladys thinks she is the first one to notice that the system is full of black and brown faces. she's so wrong. Disproportionate Minority Representation, as it's called, was an issue that was raised and being analyzed long before she arrived at OCFS. she came in with an agenda to dismantle the place and has brought in a posse of blind fearful followers to do her bidding or has used job protection as an incentive to get well meaninged staff to comply wit her outrageous policies, the sex-filled socials being just one of many. she is crass, arrogant and ill suited to an Executive level position in a agency that encompasses far more than just juvenile justice but she is singularly focused on closing facilities and demeaning and firing staff. she has failed miserably on every initiative, and ignored billions in program spending due to her tunnel vision. gladys had 4 years to make a positive difference in the lives of children and families and she has demonstrated only that she is incapable of making the changes necessary in a productive way that moves the agency forward instead of wreaking havock wherever she goes. she has only shown that she is reactionary, demonizing, revengeful, angry and never introspective. she has lasted this long only because the Paterson folks have never cared at all about agency operations and that apathy will end with a new administration. the clean up will take a concerted effort, diligence on the part of the new Commissioner and his/her new staff, and a willingness to listen and use the expertise of those who truly do care and have experience in running a state agency. her time has ended just as Paterson's has. she won't go gracefully but at least she'll have to go.

  • Linda Hodge 08/08/2010 6:19:00 PM

    Yes. This article was very well written, but it will take years to undo the damange that NYS OCFS AND CPS has done to the brown and black children of NYS. They only go after them...I have been fighting the system for 19 years. My son just left BROOKWOOD SECURE....Hell-HOLE! I will not stop until OCFS is totally dismantled. CPS caseworkers lie to Judges, lawyers, you name it, they do it. And to cover their butts they say they are protecting children....OCFS & CPS are the child abusers of this state!!! And I have plenty of proof...Ask Gladys to ask me about the system....How my son has gone from Baker Victory! Berkshire Farmms (HELL HOLE!). BROOKWOOD SECURE (NEEDS TO BE CLOSED). I can tell you horror stories of what me and my son have been through with this so-called child agency. I will continue to go to the FEDS AND tell my story...NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO ME....THEY SAY I AM CRAZY! That is what they say when a person is telling the truth...I will not stop until the ABUSES of OCFS ARE OUT IN THE OPEN!!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BE FIRED!!!! YOU THINK GLADYS IS TOUGH? YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ME........I should be COMMISSIONOR!!!! ALL HEADS WOULD ROLL!!!

  • Gladys Carrion 08/07/2010 7:08:00 PM

    Yes she had 4 years to make all kinds of improvements and she didn't, she failed all those youth and her employees by sabotaging these facilities to be closed. She could not have done any worse, she took away everything good and replaced th...em with nothing, there is nothing to do because that is the schedule and program she created and directed us to follow, she constantly changed the administrators each bringing a different way to run the facility, we went from over populated & under staffed to create all kinds of problems to under populated and over staffed to show waste of money, always making employee bashing comments in the media and blaming the staff for following her policies & procedures. Try to name the things she did that made improvements to her facilities, there are none because she wanted them to fail from day one.

  • jacki b. 08/07/2010 2:25:00 AM

    Although it would be easy, as a liberal professional working in the human services field for over 20 years, to immediately side with MS. Carrion's mission and tactics, I appreciate Ms. Dwoskin's providing a variety of facets to this story. Who is right and who is wrong is not easily determined. However, the awful tragedies of incarcerated youth, especially brown and black youths, are receiving attention they sorely deserve. How to protect society and how to provide structures to salvage a damaged system is to walk a narrow line. Bravo to Ms. Carrion for being willing to walk it, and bravo to Ms. Dwoskin for reporting this story.

  • Rob 08/07/2010 12:11:00 AM

    So let me get this straight or say straighten this out! Since this woman has been in this position she has tore down Upstate when I know first hand that my wife worked in Auburn Res. Ctr. a place where most girls who were violent and used to being abused (from their homes!) She went to work everyday and dealt with some rough kids that not only cursed out everypone in that place, but would also try to jump a staff if they didn't get their phone call AT THE IMMEDIATE second that they asked! My wife said she went to work everyday with hope that role modeling for these girls would make a difference and it did. MANY girls were so successful in the program because they learned that white, black, hispanic, etc. women and men were working with these children cause they wanted to help make a good diffence in their lives. Most of these kids were from downstate and the funny part is that my wife said these kids were finally able to act like kids because they were away from the innapropriate element of the gangs and their families. Most of the time the families would not call these kids for 6 months straight and the staff became better parents to these kids then their own parents could have ever been. Kids would request to not go home and they would say "If you send me home, it is still the same environment, so how can I succeed even if I have changed for the better, but my environment has stayed the same! It broke my wifes heart and many of the other staffs hearts to send these kids back to these families that had their kids out selling drugs and prostituting to make money for the family before they came to the facility and would again when they got home. My wife keeps a picture of the staff she worked with on the wall to this day to remind herself that this team of people who made a difference and made wonderful changes in alot of these kids that had horrible homes and had been horribly abused in their homes. Most of the kids that left this facility called back to talk to staff everyday until that commisioner closed a program that was extremely successful in education, social skills, anger control skills, and learning that adults can be trusted. This women never visited Auburn Res. Ctr. or even looked at the statistics! The rate of kids coming back after being in the program was extremely low and physical restraint was not used very often because 99% of the time staff used communication skills with these kids to calm them down. My wife would come home drained because she had spent 4-6 hours out of an 8 hour shift just trying to calm these girls down and tell them they no matter what she would be their to support them in anyway they needed because their families didn't call again, visit, or care & some parents even moved and never told their kids or the facility because they didn't want their kids at all...so what I am saying in all is that before they want to bash the programs in Upstate, get more educated on how much good was done at a program that they closed with no rhyme or reason or even talking to the kids in the facility about how they felt. Isn't that what was important or is supposed to be important...the kids?????? I am confussed everyday that this woman is free to run rampid throughout Upstate and take away not only good facilities, but also takes away all resources these staff had to help these kids. The only way things will ever change is by her being gone. I am a firm believer in Karma and for all the hell she is putting these kids and the agency of good staff through, karma is going to come back around and hit her hard. Just an FYI, I would never try to say everyone or everything was perfect, but if we all think about it, there are a few bad apples in every job...that doesn't mean everyone should be punished for the very few bad apples we come across. This commissioner is so far out of her mind that it is mind boggling!

  • LET ALL RAPISTS FREE 08/06/2010 7:52:00 PM

    LET ALL CRIMINALS FREE---TO KILL, RAPE, AND PILLAGE IN NYC! ...as long as only new yorkers are hurt, all the rural hicks that the village voice hate will be very happy....thank you, skanky liberal for keeping rural life safe and urban life the violent pigsty it's always been

  • sarent4` 08/06/2010 6:24:00 PM

    The fear-mongers like to point to the rare instances where youth commit awful crimes to draw attention away from a system that destroys far more lives than it fixes. My boyfriend thinks the same as I do. He is eight years older than me, lol. We met online at AgeGapLove``.com a nice and free place for younger women and older men, or older women and younger men, to interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or tell your friends.

  • genie 08/06/2010 6:20:00 PM

    Really interesting article. Perhaps Young can find other forms of employment for upstate NY. It appears the cart became more important than the horse. It had become more important to place kids "upstate" for the upstate economy, it appears the kids being the initial purpose was lost along the way. I don't know if Carrion is right or wrong, or can fix the problem on one end only. She has a budget to work with, let upstate entities develop an alternative to just incarceration and offer a real rehabilitation model, smaller units, full staff, more personal interactions, with real behavioral/educational/career counseling professionals and ankle bracelets. Carrion might just accept the new options, which hires professional jobs not just decently paid bullies, which may fix the reason the child went to the facilities in the first place.

  • Ella Morgan 08/06/2010 8:05:00 AM

    Not many people in public service are willing to put their convictions ahead of personal ambition and insist on doing the right thing. Congratulations to the commissioner. Like she said, her critics lack moral fiber, so who cares what they think...they haven't offered anything even resembling an honest, fact-based or even reason-based policy defense, just the same old racist fear-mongering. Also hilarious is their repeated accusation about Carrion having an 'ideology.' What, and they don't have an ideology? To paraphrase State Sen. Young: "There's hypocrisy at work here!"

  • paul fiore 08/06/2010 7:16:00 AM

    Ms. Carrion is a perfect example of a racist. I've never seen her comment on kids being locked up unless she first uses "black or brown" as a prerequisite in her statements. She states the kids should be in their home environment to get the "support" they need. Funny, they had between 14 and 17 YEARS of their neighborhood's support before they ended up violent criminals. She states naively that they look "just like her own kids." Are her kids violent criminals too? She comments a lot on how bad the facilities are but spent NO time to ask the staff, most of them who have devoted their lives to improving their lot, how the system could be improved. Somehow her time with the United Way has left her with all the best ideas on how to handle juvenile offenders. However, I blame the State system of political appointments over hiring legitimate candidates to fill critical jobs more than I blame Ms. Carrion. She came to this position with a preconceived notion of how terrible all these upstate people and facilities are and never once discusses how many kids passed the GED or regents examinations that they would have NEVER taken if they remained in their home environment. Great job (tongue in cheek) of covering this with such objectivity. There is an entirely opposite side to this story that this paper and the "leadership" of OCFS doesn't want anyone to know. Now they'll all be in a community near you. Well, now they're all yours. Let's see how this works out, ha, ha.

  • Rita 08/06/2010 5:44:00 AM

    Just wondering if her former employer United Way is conveniently benefiting from the outsourcing of these jobs? A sure conflict of interest.

  • Tim Ross 08/05/2010 11:54:00 PM

    The article did an excellent job of presenting different viewpoints. It also captured Commissioner Carrion in a very authentic way, as someone who does not dance around subjects and says what she believes—and not what people want to hear. Her candor is refreshing. Where I would have liked to have seen more coverage is on the alternatives to placement. It would have been great if programs like Esperanza, Adolescent Portable Therapy, Multi-Systemic Therapy (MST), Family Functional Therapy and the City’s Juvenile Justice Initiative were highlighted. While some of the alternatives are mentioned in passing, and are not a panacea, a section on the challenges, successes and failures of those programs would have helped your readers understand that there are options other than locking kids up or putting them on the street. Perhaps your next article? Critics may continue to rail against Carrion’s policies, but citizens should be happy to know what she is doing in the face of an opposition that has no rational alternative to an unacceptable status quo.

  • GLADYS CARRION IS A DUMB SLUT 08/05/2010 11:21:00 PM

    WHAT A TURD, NOT WANTING LATINO OR BLACK CRIMINALS TO GET LOCKED UP---BUT I BET SHE WANTED THE DUKE LACROSE BOYS TO BE PUT TO DEATH!

  • Rubén Austria 08/05/2010 9:13:00 PM

    Gladys Carrion is an amazing leader and a person of great moral courage and conviction. What she has understood is that the juvenile prison system absolutely fails to rehabilitate and only makes kids worse. The statistics are undeniable: 89% of boys and 81% of girls go back into the justice system after being incarcerated upstate. Not only that, keeping youth at home surrounded by plenty of accountability and support in the community is what develops them into healthy, responsible adults. For almost ten years I ran a community-based alternative-to-incarceration program in the Bronx that successfully graduated 84% of its participants without re-arrest or probation violation. Not only so, follow-up studies showed that even five years down the line, the youth we served were far less likely to be re-arrested and commit felonies than youth who had been incarcerated. The fear-mongers like to point to the rare instances where youth commit awful crimes to draw attention away from a system that destroys far more lives than it fixes. But the data shows clearly that for every 1 youth who commits a sensational violent crime, there are hundreds whose lives are far more damaged when they are incarcerated for minor offenses. Gladys Carrion has grasped this and is doing the right thing.

  • alexander betancourt 08/05/2010 4:51:00 PM

    Gladys Carrion is the rare and exceptional public servant who understands the dynamics of child welfare policies that are intended to crush the hopes and dreams of our young people.For those of us who know her it is not an isolated act of bravado but a clear and unimpeachable sense of right and wrong that is her compass.She has not signed on to condemn another generation of latino and african american youth to institutionalization as others have and she acts upon her convictions with clarity and conscience.She is a breath of fresh air and she has always called it as she sees it. Coining a phrase used by the poster girl of the Tea Party movement.....Comm. Carrion does not suffer from having "cojones"

  • Hirotomo Nii 08/05/2010 2:00:00 AM

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  • Bob S 08/04/2010 10:10:00 PM

    Mr. Spitzer appointed a number of people who are so far out on the political Left that even liberals don't recognize them. Judith Enck (now, fortunately, gone from State government) comes to mind as one who lives in a bubble and is known even among environmentalists as an extremist whack job. Arranging prostitutes to service murderers and other felons, at taxpayer expense, doesn't seem to strike Ms Carrion as inappropriate. Mr. Spitzer's legacy (other than the obvious one) will be blood on the streets when these kids continue their rampages knowing hotel-like accommodations await them when (if) they are caught.

  • typical minorities 08/04/2010 9:44:00 PM

    cliche of minority mindset: minorities don't want minority killers and rapists to go to jail...PERIOD.

  • Let Voice Columnist Babysit 08/04/2010 7:37:00 PM

    If the Village Voice loves convicted criminals so much, let the Village Voice columnists take care of them---introduce all the pitiful convicts to your 8 year old sons, daughters, nephews and neices.

  • KEEP YOUR GARBAGE 08/04/2010 7:30:00 PM

    rural people don't want the teenage scumbags from nyc---let the scumbags rot in nyc jails. JUST SAY NO TO NYC SCUMBAGS IN RURAL AREAS.

  • Ricardo 08/04/2010 6:01:00 PM

    Commissioner Carrion is a freind of many years. As a friend, a Puert Rican, a father and a citizen of this State reading this article of the extraordinary character and courage to act true to her convictions ( a rare quality in our government officials )and underatke measures to make right an unbelievable wrong and inhuman circumstance for mostly African American and Latino young boys and girls makes me very proud indeed. It is inspiring to know that there are always persons amongst us who stand head and shoulders above us all and fight the good fight!

 

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