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Kim Ison 03/09/2012 1:01:00 AM
I would like to know more on this pangea. I have been researching this clinic in hopes it may help my daughter who is a heroin addict and since I cannot find ibogaine in the US it seemed the only hope of getting her to the help I have read about that actually re-programs the brain to a pre-addict state. But this information has totally made me rethink this venture. Does ibogaine really work? You failed to say if this is what they were using to treat your husband with. If it does, is there another way to go besides this scenario you described?
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03/03/2012 8:55:00 PM
The car: can it drive without the wheels??
Study is on the way
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Geraldo 02/08/2012 11:49:00 PM
As for the cost of running a "clinic"...Y'all are living on pesos in paradise down around the Dream House and others...but charging dollars. BIG BUCKS by Mexican standards. And you are not paying a fortune for food, clothing or shelter. You don't pay a fortune for MDs or medical equipment either. There is the cost of the ibogaine used in treatment . Gee, where does all the money go? Yes, there are those pesky black market narcotics needed to stabilize the clients. Granted, the cost of the narcs are a legitimate business expense. But I guess something had to be totally illegal in all this. These clinics charge a fortune multipled out more than several times a month. It's not like you're paying back a loan to Ibogaine University. The clinics get most of their clients via word of mouth and referrals as opposed to paying for advertising. I believe the centers do good work but I also believe Mary, that you are being disingenuous regarding the cost vs. profit.
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02/08/2012 8:24:00 AM
i wanted to ask you a few question about pangea, will you get back to me?
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Jakec12us 02/08/2012 7:40:00 AM
hello, id def like to reach you, ive been talking to clare and she seems great but these allegations have me fucking worried. Theyre making here out to be a 100% complete fraud and if thats the case I need to know, ya know? I dont know one way or the other
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Jakec12us 02/08/2012 7:36:00 AM
hey rebekah, im am seriously considering pangea, i guess my question is,r u still clean, or did it work?
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IB 02/03/2012 6:54:00 AM
I know Grandma and Claire took her for almost triple the going rate of her treatment fee by stringing her along for more time at the clinic. She is in it for the money. Period.
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pj 01/20/2012 4:49:00 PM
Regarding Clare Wilkens and Pangea. My husband has been there several times. He is a drug addict and alcoholic, still. Clare is a gifted talker. She'll make your loved ones feel like they've landed on the worlds greatest secret revealed and the rest of us who question what goes on down there are "ignorant Americans." I will quote Clare from a conversation I had with her when I found out my husband was doing drugs and purchasing drugs through her clinic while receiving "treatment" - "He may try many different drugs while on his 'journey'." Really? This is rehab? Fact: they smoke pot continually while at her clinic, with Clare. She hooks you up on benzos when you walk in the door. VERY bad idea. AND she took my husband's supply of benzo's from him and distrubuted it out to other clients. She provided him info on how to hook up with MDMA and another hallucinogen from Peru her sister was touting. One of her employees took $400 dollars cash from my husband on the way to the airport from an ATM selling him growth hormones. Yeah, he sat around tripping all week talking about what other drugs he wanted to do. Dunno if she had sex with my husband, don't care anymore. Probably did, though, they are such incredibly gifted liars and manipulators.
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It doesn't really create an aversion to the body - rather it shows you how beautiful, harmonic and at the same time fragile your body is. And how this fragile vessel holds your eternal soul. And how every cell in your body becomes really unhappy when you smack this dirty crap into your vein. And how you keep doing it to run away from your problems, instead of seeing, that there are actually no problems: this world is your home, and it gives you every possibility to be happy.
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Heroin Addiction 05/11/2011 11:45:00 AM
Heroin addiction is a disease that affects a person's whole being. There are many risks involved in the lifestyle of heroin addiction, and once people start using drugs, they become more prone to diseases like HIV as well as holding other dangerous situations.
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shaka 02/24/2011 1:45:00 PM
I was treated twice at Pangea and Clare Wilkin's - Maty Dittons post is more like the Claire I know...she is not the person portrayed in these outrageous emails,,,,,Who of us here is so perfect as to judge anyone. When an addict is going through withdrawal and rehab, many issue surface including rage and anger. Consider the source of these outrageous claims against Claire Wilkins. Addicts, junkies, people with no teeth, people who might be going through tough times of desparation, despair and generally pretty f";cked up . Can you say Jeckyl and Hyde?
Its real easy to cry sexual abuse on a public forum, the knee jerk reaction is guilty until proven innocent. Those with there own agendas for whatever reason can easily assasinate somone else's character with a few keystrokes. Go back to your Glass House
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H in da UK 01/26/2011 5:33:00 PM
i think im going to go to this claires place. i do tend to get really horny when detoxing from opiates. with this little freeby thrown in i reckon its a done deal
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01/15/2011 6:32:00 AM
I took LSD in the mid-90's not with the intention of curing my alcoholism - it was purely a recreational activity. But I tell you, in all honesty, that is EXACTLY what this LSD trip did. No longer was the interference from the ego there and I could see crystal-clearly that the only one I was deluding about my drinking was myself. My sobriety continues thanks to the "moment of clarity" LSD produced. It has NOT been a struggle in the least - simply facing and accepting the truth with god humor. If it had not happened to me, perhaps I wouldn't believe it. But it DID - a thunder strike out of the blue that changed me forever. So, rather than be so dismissive of such concepts, why not try to synthesize the experience of others? There's much to be learned and gained. PS Being gay doesn't need to be "cured"... it's not a disorder.
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Ploni 01/03/2011 10:10:00 PM
she hustled my boyfriend at a time he was very vulnerable. It was really sick. I don't doubt these stories
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FranMann 12/28/2010 7:12:00 PM
This is fantastic!! It makes so much sense- to me it's like it creates an aversion for the body and in so doing we gain so much more control. Check out the video at ibogaineclinic.com
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Sisterwin2 12/28/2010 4:07:00 PM
Bill... why keep going back if she such a "bad person"
None of this rings true to me. Never met her but these stories have so many holes..if they are all true why keep going back.
I guess... we have to blame someone for our choices when our choices hurt so badly
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Barry 12/18/2010 3:56:00 PM
For Jan Allison .... we, IbogaQuest.com are a deliberately small Ibogaine retreat center in Mexico consisting of 2 long time Buddhists. We focus particularly on mindfulness-awareness with our visitors and are always interested in ways to enhance this experience. Your insights, experience and practices would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for sharing. Our contact information is clearly on our website.
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Day_tripper 12/11/2010 1:08:00 AM
Trippin' balls...
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Bill 12/08/2010 2:29:00 AM
Everything said about Clare is almost all true, and yes she does try to hook up with her patients. I personally have been treated by Clare a couple times. In 2008 she had to do Ibogaine when I was there a day after I did because she was so messed up on alcohol, and benzo's. ( she loves her benzo's ) Anyway I was trying to get off of opiates and Clare wouldn't get off me. She tried several times in 2008 to get me alone, and she actually kissed me during my massage and I had to tell her to stop because I knew how drunk and benzo'd out she was. Then she freaked out and tripped and cut her hand really bad. I was wondering why my parents forked out 7500 to have a lady running "the clinic" trying to hook up with me. (she tried this with several Utah twenty somethings,) and two of my friends stayed and had relations for over a year a piece with her. People stick around with her because she just drugs them up and keeps them filling good. It's hard to explain how good it fills when our receptors are chuck full of ibogaine, and clare knows how to seduce men when there depression and cravings disappear overnight. Anyway I'm rambling I'm sorry.... But I just have to get the truth out. Clare also treated me 2-3 months ago with no doctors or anything???? It was me and her alone for a week. She was handing me and offering me all sorts of drugs, and telling me it would be best if I stuck around for a month or two. I knew what she was doing, but I felt bad for her because I saw how desperate she was.
I could go on for hours about Clare, but I won't, because most of her clients are from Utah and they have all experienced similar situations...... I can prove everything I've said on here too, I talked to her two days ago, and she was yelling at me calling me a junkie demanding I send more money. I have horrible texts of her saying this stuff too. ( I send her money for nothing?)
I 100 percent believe anybody claiming Clare slept with somebodies husband. Clare cares about Clare.
I have so much info to prove anything Im saying... She definitely preys on clients and it's sad that a supposed Cornell grad wouldn't realize how much sexual relations can jeopardize the recovery of a down and patient. It's sad and selfish, and I'm sorry for the family she tore apart......
Clare is sick, and does trick people into giving her money, with the promise of ibogaine and anything else. I'm sorry Sandy you got screwed.
Not trying to start a problem but Clare hurt both of my treatments, and hurt anybody that got into her way. She has a history of stealing money, and you can look it up.....
She has a front like she is some "medicine woman" :) WOW, she's just a lonely woman with zero friends. Her own doctors stopped working for her (Nathen) etc.
I hope she gets help, but I think she's way to lost?....
Keep running Clare, I'm sure your enjoying San Pedro:)
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Rebekah 11/27/2010 8:15:00 PM
Regardless of the sexual claims, the complete lack of ownership to the other things Clare has done to many other people is an outrage.
She had been running Pangea for 3 1/2 years and had needles, controlled drugs, and MDMA left out to whom ever found it. You would think a provider of her statue would know better, considering she is treating iv drug users. When left to the patients, what do you think they would do? I was treated at Pangea shortly after Christian was there for his second time. The first thing I was told was that a lot of things had been changed after he left. If nothing like that had happened then why would things have had to be changed? Clare puts up a good front, and I saw right through it. Her attitude towards me did a complete 180 after my iboga treatment. She was hardly ever there to talk to, and when I approached her she blew me off and said "I don't know what's wrong with you." Then proceeded to walk away. If you are helping addicts through their struggle, why would you do something like that? One in her position should be there just to lend an ear. Her attitude towards me did a complete 180 after my iboga treatment. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and in mine...Clare is a fraud. Many more people should be coming out against Pangea and Clare Wilkins. It's one thing to help addicts, but if you are hurting yourself in the process then maybe it's time to move on. I'm sure somewhere lies a very wonderful person within Clare, I just think she needs to find it again. I'm trying to open peoples eyes so they look beyond the front most people put up. How many people has Clare treated? I'm sure there are more then just Rachel and Christian that have been hurt by Clare. How long has her clinic been open? I think if more people know their story, more will come out and not feel so afraid. All it takes is one brave person to stand up to a totally unprofessional ibogaine provider.(or whatever she calls herself) As far as the people here using fake names...You know who I am. I stand firmly for what I believe in, you should to.
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roots 11/26/2010 8:28:00 AM
I'm sitting with someone right now who has been detoxed from a heavy, long term opiate addiction using Ibogaine. With proper dosing and a nurturing environment, there can be amazing results. However, Ibogaine will not live your life for you. It's a very powerful tool that can give you insight and time to change patterns in your life. I have been clean from long term heroin and cocaine addiction after being treated at Pangea almost 3 years ago. All in all, I received better care at Pangea than any treatment facility I went through in the US. As far as this mud slinging towards Clare, I happened to be volunteering at Pangea when this Christian guy was there the second time when he supposedly slept with Clare. It's a low blow and I don't believe it for a second. I certainly did not see ANY shred of a relationship between himself and Clare, other than trying to detox the guy with Ibogaine. Anyways, if anyone would like to speak to me about my experience with Ibogaine, feel free to reach me.
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Frank 11/23/2010 7:03:00 AM
Ibogaine: the catalyst, not the cure
http://www.ibogamind.com/index.php?topic=18.0
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Anna 11/23/2010 4:31:00 AM
I agree Dena "Us Recovering addicts should be building this movement.. not attempting to tear it down."
I know Clare to be a fantstc caring woman, and an extremely competent ibogaine provider. I would put my life in her hands.
PS i was treated at Dreamhouse, (and not underdosed). I have stayed clean over 2.5 years post treatment.
Ibogaine treats everyone differently...
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Frank 11/22/2010 5:20:00 PM
Glick, "The hallucinations are just an unfortunate side effect,"
Mash, “There’s evidence that it’s not the visions that get you drug-free…”
These observations apply to animal models; humans and addiction are much more complex. If we hope to have any chance of successful treatment outcomes with addiction and ibogaine, a better understanding of addiction is crucial. Many aspects to addiction exist that cannot be explained purely through neuroscience. What is being described as an ‘unfortunate side effect’ appears to have many benefits in humans, placebo or not. This hallucination, better described as a dream-like state, appears to have psychotherapeutic effects. Reports of processing and identifying underlying issues as they relate to addiction are common.
Alper makes a good point as to the future of ibogaine development. Low dose, sub-psychedelic protocols are highly effective and should be used as an adjunct therapy following standard detoxification treatment now. For additional ibogaine treatment and addiction information www.ibogamind.com
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B Atom 11/22/2010 3:10:00 AM
as per posts: the duality of (wo)man..
as per explanation: the universe is nothing if not complex.
these plants cut thru conditioning, addiction is nothing if not SYSTEMIC! the disease model: a diseased in-culture-ation. until we collectively embrace a manner of living IN COMMUNION (ie. plenty for all) these dis-ease es will appear and appear and multiply and these plants, and the collective unconsious steeped in the NA/AA halls (the addicts 'campfire', community!), and the shamans of the world will continue to remind of us of, our, potential...
~jah bless this mess~
ps. hi larkin (village moice media maverick)! remember me?
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Jon Nilsson 11/21/2010 11:02:00 PM
It'd be interesting to know the exact costs of operating a clinic in Mexico, in calculating more than 300 patients treated at $7500 per, results in a total in excess of 2 million. Rent and services in Mexico are much less than in the US. Wouldn't these numbers suggest a means to a comfortable lifestyle?
"A rotten mouth junkie, out of shape, married and probably had not been able to get a "woody" for several yrs due to drug use. Clare is a cute girl and sure she needs no help to get laid." Dena, how do you know this man was a rotten mouthed out of shape anything? As far as dismissing him for being an addict, it'd appear you were also.
Ibogaine seems like a serious choice, and ought to be made only after careful consideration and research in more sources than the popular media. If serious allegations are made, it would only seem reasonable to attempt to verify if they're true.
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Walter 11/21/2010 10:42:00 PM
It has recently been brought to my attention that the last post I submitted regarding this article was not accurate. I had mentioned there was 10 deaths at Claire's clinic; however, the real number, is in fact less than half that amount. I do apologize if my post had led anyone to believe otherwise.
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Dena 11/21/2010 8:24:00 PM
I resent this last statement by Max. I am an recovering addict and was lucky enough to go to the Dream house. I was the last client they had for a short time and I have nothing but praise for the clinic. I would and do suggest this clinic to many..with my approval and endorsement.
I was informed this was not a "cure", I was well taken care of. There was NOTHING that happen that I was not prepared for. I was told I would feel like crap the day after, I was told that I would feel better by 50% each day after... all was true.
I also did some shopping prior to my TX. I spoke to Clare on the phone several times and recieved a boatload of knowledge from her. Very kind and very given with information even after she knew I was going elsewhere. I chose the Dream house due to $$$ and I was in pretty good physical health for an addict of 30 yrs.
Really folks... this kind of slandering does nothing for anyone. Do you really think someone would go that far out of the way to "bed" a rotten mouth junkie, out of shape, married and probably had not been able to get a "woody" for several yrs due to drug use. Clare is a cute girl and sure she needs no help to get laid. I don't believe a word of what was said... feels like someone has a personal grudge against her or feels they should not pay for the services rendered.
Please..the goal for the ex-addicted is to spread the word there is help other then what (sadly to say) the good Ole USA has to offer. Slander, lies and grudges should be left for the goverment to enjoy.. Us Recovering addicts should be building this movement.. not attempting to tear it down.
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Max U 11/21/2010 4:50:00 AM
Of course no plant or synthesized drug can "save" anyone. It has been said before and I will say it again, Ibogaine is not a cure all in one shot. Iboga/ibogaine like all teaching plants are here to assist in our growth not do the growing for us. Expecting the plant to do the work is completely irresponsible and dangerous on many levels.
A few words regarding Clare Wilkins; Do not go to Clare Wilkins for any kind of treatment! Do not, do not, do not! There are very good trustworthy providers out there but she is not one of them. The young man that got All his teeth pulled out will find it surprising to know, if he doesn't already, that she gets a kick-back from the Dentist he was sent to. What kind of sane, caring person would allow this to happen? Nuff said about the affair while he was in Clare's succubus care.(full story found in previous comment).
Dr. Christopher Jenks, you are a kind and giving soul but, you have been bamboozled you've been sold the Brooklyn Bridge and then some. Wake up!! Where there is smoke you'll not only find fire you'll find total devastation.
The Dream House? You mean House of the Under-dosed?
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Stryder Simms 11/21/2010 1:55:00 AM
I wrote one of the first comments on this article and after several days of deliberation I have one more thing to add. I did take ibogaine and was glad I did at the time, that was a long time ago and I don't see any reason for me to ever take it again. Not having been an addict when I did it, I took a risk that could have destabilized me. All hallucinogens carry that risk. For an addict to take such strong medicine makes sense because they are already on a dangerous trajectory. Though I support ibogaine for those who need it, I have learned from experience that no drug can do your spiritual homework for you. Thanks again for the article.
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Shaman 11/20/2010 10:55:00 PM
When will people respect the things that are scared this statement makes me sick to my stomach “When you use, you end up alone in a bathroom or something. You need a community. As weird and misfits as we are, we need this sense of community. You need to learn to deal with being in your body each day instead of relying on the fucking ibogaine.” It is unfortunate that people do not respect what the native people of this planet have to offer. When will people wake up and see that people have been lying about was the native people around the world have known for years. Yes there are plants that can cure very disease man can come up with!
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mary ditton 11/20/2010 7:47:00 PM
I have been involved in the ibogaine movement for almost a decade. I spent six years going to conferences out of curiosity until I was treated in Mexico at the Dream House in May of 2007. I returned to work full time at the Dream House in October of 2007 and have been here ever since. I have been a sitter for hundreds of treatments and I know many of the ibogaine providers world wide. If people only understood the compromised physical condition of addicts, they would be asking "Why oh why are there not more deaths???"
Clare Wilkins is one of the providers that i know of who has put the most amount of time, energy, and money into providing medical support for her ibogaine treatments. We at the Dream House have referred people to Clare that we were not able to receive, including the 60 year old grandma that wrote a comment. And I can say because I know Sandy. I emailed her for months to try to help her find a place to be treated because we were concerned about her age and Clare took wonderful care of Sandy -- far as I can see, Clare Wilkins saved Grandma's life.
I live next door to a man who received treatment from Clare. Clare sent him here to San Pancho to regain his health in a setting that was more tranquil and affordable than Tijuana. Which brings me to another point. If people only knew what it costs to maintain a facility as Clare Wilkins and Rocky Caravelli have both done, they would be asking, "Why isn't the treatment more expensive?" Both of these ibogaine facilitators have managed to survive, barely, by charging the absolute minimum to cover the cost of rent, utilities, food, medical supplies, and enormous staffing costs for the doctors and the dedicated people who work 24/7 to take people through this journey.
To date, it is remarkable how the people involved in providing treatments are largely former addicts whose lives have been saved by ibogaine, and do this work from their heart. That will change if ibogaine is ever legalized. It is already apparent that the centers where the director and the staff have undergone treatment, are the ones that are able to offer the most effective and compassionate care. This is not, I repeat NOT a three day treatment unless that is the only option as it is for underground providers who work hand to mouth for people with no funds!!!
Clare is one of the providers who offers the perfect balance of medical support, nutrition (she spends tons on organic foods and supplements) and the shamanistic or spiritual side of the treatment which she comes by naturally and has learned from taking care of herself, her sister, her brother and her parents. She gave emotional and financial support to Howard and Norma Lotsof. The year of the world conference on ibogaine she put everything she had into making sure that Howard and Norma were comfortable. Howard, the "father of ibogaine," died with not a lot of cash in his pocket...and so it goes.
I don'tand also credits her with saving his life. He, like many others, should be contributing comments to this article.I would like to urge people who have been helped by Clare to write a comment.
I will say that the ibogaine "world" has to date benefitI don't wish to be involved in a back and forth about receive treatment in a medical than we I would like to contribute to the discussion around the Pangea Clinic and Clare Wilkins.
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Rebekah 11/20/2010 5:30:00 AM
Using ibogaine as a form of treatment for drug addiction is very promising. One should just be wise and do extensive research into the different providers that are out there. I received treatment at the clinic spoke of here. I'm no longer dependent on methadone, but that was due to the medicine, not the provider. People put on very good fronts to get you in the door and the money in their pocket. Be extremely cautious and do your research over and over because there is more then just Clare Wilkins and Pangea.
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michel negroponte 11/20/2010 12:51:00 AM
Coming soon: check it out
http://www.firstrunfeatures.com/newsletter/Publicity/dangerouswithlove.html
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tony 11/19/2010 5:27:00 AM
somehow i think more than just the drug companies would not like this "cure" -- if it works on caffeine, nicotine and alcohol, then starbucks, tobacco companies and liquor stores...might wanna see it go away...seriously, the drug cartels and everyone making money from illegal drugs...
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Cloudy McNoggin 11/19/2010 3:42:00 AM
My congratulations to the author for creating such an insightful, important and well-researched look in to ibogaine and those involved in the community.
I have first-hand knowledge of both the effects and outcomes of ibogaine therapy as well as having had the opportunity of meeting and working with one of the article's sources Clare Wilkins...one of the most compassionate and impressive individuals I have ever met.
Ibogaine is not a 'magic pill.' It demands (and I mean DEMANDS) the attention and commitment of the patient. But when properly administered the results are unlike any other therapy available today.
GREAT article.
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Jim 11/19/2010 3:00:00 AM
We need less of individual clinic "build up" or "tear down" and more of.....clincal trials.
The people who run clinics in Mexico don't want Ibogaine legalized. What would happen to their way of life then?
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sandi hartman 11/19/2010 12:15:00 AM
for Jen Allison, i'm the 60 year old grandma treated for pain. i am one year into my no opiate life and had previous to ibogaine been deeply involved with buddhist practices. i have used those exercises and other plant meds to deal with the pain from fracturing C3-4 and C4-5 (broken neck) and 8 (i think) ribs in an auto accident. i was put on a morphine pump in the hosptial and used increasingly high--except for titrating myself down, because I wanted to--doses of oxycontin (up to 460 mgs/day) and up to 175 mcgs of fentanyl every 48 (not 72) hours. from may 18th, 1998 until sept. 18th, 2009 i used opiates every day. please contact me if i can provide any useful info re the buddhist exercises or plant meds i use. best wishes to you. paz y amor, sandi
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Edward W. 11/18/2010 8:26:00 PM
"merely a door to new choices..." is what I meant at the end......need more coffee :)
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Edward W. 11/18/2010 8:24:00 PM
Sakara, I know LSD has contributed to positive changes for some, as well as negative for others. Ibogaine on the other hand, for the most part, has a very definite and positive effect in the end for most. I wouldn't say it's a cure to all substance abuse and emotional issues, but more of an addiction interrupter and enabler of mental/emotional healing. It can mean hope of recovery for many, where there was none. There would be the issue of long term recovery based on personal choices and behavior even after an ibogaine session. This is emery a door to new choices, where there seemed to be none.
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dhoruba Bin-Wahad 11/18/2010 8:23:00 PM
Having worked with Dana Beal on Legalization of Ibogain for years It is clear to me that the efficacy of the Ibogain treatment is political and not medical. Ibogain is classified as a drug subject to abuse by the FDA not because people will get high and freak out as with LSD, (the side effects are severe nausea and few people think vomiting is a cool high) but because of the politics of its potential use. The U.S.A., the foremost market for illicit drugs on the planet has made billions off of illicit and legal drugs, most of these drugs are addictive. Indeed, Methadone, used to "maintain" heroin addicts is more addictive and destructive than Heroin. But its not illegal. Why? The primary consumer of Methadone is the State. Like most corporations, the pharmaceutical companies seek to maximize profit, and legal addictive drug consumption is one way to insure mass consumption of their products. Though Ibogain is declared illegal in the USA, that didn't stop pharmaceutical companies from rushing to patent its molecular structure for future product branding. Simultaneously, the government appropriates billions each year in its patently unsuccessful and eternal war on drugs. Transforming urban landscapes in to war zones. So why is Ibogain "outlawed" in a nation severely debilitated by hard drug addiction? That is a long story, but it's worth noting that it is the African-American and Latino communities most sorely afflicted by alkaloid based drug addictions and illegal drug trafficking of Cocaine and Heroin. The Iboga Tabernathe grows almost exclusively in parts of West Africa... how ironic that a potential cure for physical drug addiction exists in abundance in the savannah of W. Africa while the Africa Diaspora is inordinately targeted for hard drug distribution and Black Leaders and Politicians remain as clueless as ever. Negro politicians should get off their collective asses and demand clinical studies of Ibogain to determine its real value - especially to the African community besieged by cops and drug dealers alike.
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Evan 11/18/2010 11:35:00 AM
People have been trying to "cure" substance dependency with a pill or a chemical for a very long time. Heroin was once marketed as a "cure" for morphine dependency. Antabuse, Camparil, naltrexone, Suboxone...the list goes on. Before we start declaring victory in the "war on addiction" it'd be nice to see some empirical data on the *long-term* (and I'm not talking about "six months") effectiveness of ibogaine treatment. Of course, as long as it's schedule I, that's never going to happen...
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Jen Allison 11/18/2010 6:41:00 AM
Nowhere in this article does it address what happened to the pain these people were suffering before ibogaine? If 62% of these people were on opiates for chronic severe pain, I find it hard to believe that a couple aspirin is going to help them now. Does anyone else know anything about how the pain patients are treated after ibogaine treatment?
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dawn woodward 11/18/2010 6:28:00 AM
ibogaine is too important for us to be using the comment page to talk about individual people! claire is an example of a provider. like with any drug, or even really any substance at all, you would we well inclined to do research and pick the best supplier/facilitator. ibogaine allows deep inward sight and brand new life, and it is a breakthrough for addiction, depression, and shame in all its myriad of forms. because of ibogaine, i don't need to sell myself on a streetcorner. that is my bottom line.
i would advise scientific researchers that they are entering a classroom, and they should prepare themselves by removing their shoes and kneeling.
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shannon 11/18/2010 5:56:00 AM
In my experience, where there is smoke there is very often, fire.
I do not know this Clare woman but from what i have read, there appears to be a big problem with her. 10 deaths? And this is someone who it is rumoured to undertreat (gives less than the measured dose)? Thanks for the long personal comments Rachael:( I feel for you.
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Dr. Christopher Jenks 11/18/2010 4:14:00 AM
Thank you for this very comprehensive article about ibogaine and 18-MC. I hope those who need further convincing of the potential of ibogaine within an addiction treatment program will continue to read about it.
I'm also glad to see the coverage of the hard work by Clare Wilkins of Pangea Biomedics. Only a few people in the world have as much experience with ibogaine treatment as Clare, and I admire her courage in exposing herself to so much scrutiny, and inevitable conflict, as a result. In my encounters with her at conferences, she has impressed me as intelligent, professional and compassionate, with a strong sense of personal integrity.
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Dena 11/18/2010 1:45:00 AM
I took Ibogaine 2x now..... Not sure I believe the post about Clare 'bedding' her clients. Some folk just lie and some always blame others for their mistakes.
I was not there, did not receive my TX there. I have talked to her and found her very open.
Don't believe everything one reads. Do your own research.
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Walter 11/18/2010 12:21:00 AM
Ibogaine is truly the best treatment modality available for drug and alcohol addiction; however, Clair Wilkins is the farthest thing from the best provider. She has a long history of borrowing money and sleeping with her patients while they are at her clinic. I will say this about Clair, she is an excellent sales person and she is great at coming up with bogus marketing ploys to lure in unsuspecting addicts who are merely looking for help, e.g. "bwiti shakes". It would have been wise for the author of this article to actually research Clair and Pangea before plugging her in this reputable paper. People need to know that more people have died at Pangea than any other provider. The death toll is at 10 and rising.
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Rachel 11/17/2010 10:55:00 PM
I do believe in the power of ibogaine to help drug addicts see within themselves. I have had a family member who was treated at Pangea, and I personally don't think Clair Wilkens should be in the business. This is my family's experience with Clair...
My husband Christain and I had been doing research on ibogaine therapy and the best providers for two years. We learned how the medication worked, the risks, the different types of providers (meaning the providers who were a part of the ibogaine association) as well as the most respected providers in the community. Christian and I spoke with Clare on several occasions about what her treatment center offered. We made the decision to have my husband treated at Pangea because of all the research we had done and the fact that she supposedly staffed doctors during the treatment itself.
My husband left for Pangea in January of 2010 for the first time. He was supposed to be gone for 10 days total. On his second day at the treatment center I called to check on Christian and to see when he would start his treatment. Upon him getting on the phone he sounded completely sedated and mumbled something about an infection in his mouth and he would be getting some teeth pulled out before he could do the treatment. Upon hanging up I began to worry because of ibogaine and him having a possible infection. Turns out the infection was just something to get him to the dentist as he came home with no teeth (got them all pulled) and a brand new set of dentures at age 32. He was never treated with ibogaine and was at the treatment center for 3 days less of one month. I was never able to have any conversations with Clare and the ones I did have were very brief and could never get any info about what was going on down there with Chris or his treatment. Chris was way over medicated the entire time he was there and he had no information on when he would be getting his treatment. I was astonished at the fact he made a decision to have that much dental work done when he was unable to speak most of the times. Chris told me he needed to come home and have his mouth heal and didn’t understand why they weren’t treating him with ibogaine. He just said “get me a flight out of here, its time to come home”. Turns out while he was at the treatment center he was getting into opiates and syringes that were left out at all times. What kind of director leaves out opiates and syringes for their patients to get into??
Before he came home he was told by Clare that he could come back for free as he never completed his treatment. For the next three weeks he tried to contact Clare and was unable to. His parents finally tried to call and spoke with Clare about his returning for treatment. After Clare changed the dates three times Chris went back to Pangea in April of 2010. He was completely hooked on opiates of all sorts because Clare told him not to get back on anything long acting like methadone/suboxone. This made our family life crazy as having two children and a husband seeking opiates daily a very hard thing to deal with. Why wouldn’t someone dedicated to helping others get him back as soon as she could so he wouldn’t have to chase for nearly two months?? Chris was charged an additional four thousand to come back down as she went against her word of him coming back down for free. Surprise, Surprise!!
Chris left in April and finally did get his treatment three days after being there. Clare spoke with his parents (wouldn’t ever speak with me) and told them what a wonderful person Chris was and how great he was going to do when he came home. He was down there again for days less than a month. When I called there to speak with him I could never get anyone on the phone and had no clue what was going on with him or his treatment. I was left to only hope for the best when he came home.
The day Chris returned home he was texting Clare almost immediately when he got into our car. The texting and calling between never ceased for the three weeks following. Chris began to tell me he was the only patient there upon returning the second time and that he and Clare developed a close relationship because of that fact. My first question was why there wasn’t a doctor present during his treatment. My second question was why was he the only patient there and why would the director of the program be spending time with a patient???? I finally got the answers to all my questions.
Chris told me that he and Clare had a sexual relationship that stated during his ibogaine treatment. How could someone so respected in the ibogaine community take advantage of someone who was at their most vulnerable? Knowing Christian was a married man I believe Clare had Christian down at a time where she knew they would be alone. That doesn’t bother me as bad as what she did to him mentally. How can you send a married man home to his family knowing he just cheated on his wife? Not only cheated but shared a bed the entire time he was there as well as spent a great deal of time at her personal residence. If that isn’t setting up someone for failure I don’t know what is??
I’m sure you can all guess the outcome of his progress upon returning home. He could no longer look me in the eyes because of the things that happened at the treatment center. He could not stay clean because of the guilt he felt for the things that happened. I think telling me what truly happened will help him in the future with staying clean and getting his head back together. Our marriage is over and the last 11 years of my life has been changed forever because of the vulture that prays on the weak and vulnerable. I can’t believe that this happened and before this women screws anyone else’s head up I wanted to get my story out. I believe Christian could have really made it if he would have gone somewhere else for treatment. This is a disgrace to the ibogaine community and I can’t believe Clare S Wilkens is respected at all. I hope my story saves someone else or someone’s family.
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Nora 11/17/2010 10:41:00 PM
While the ibogaine therapy movement has been around for a while, both in Amsterdam and Mexico, the clinic you are writing about is run by a sociopathic embezzler and fraud. She stole one woman's life savings, running up thousands of dollars on the woman's credit card for plane tickets and other things having nothing to do with the clinic. She also sleeps with clients and did so with one woman's husband, eventually sending him back into heroine because of his guilt and wrongly administered so-called therapy. This woman is about to be sued by more than one person. She is a vicious, manipulative and dangerous person who has tried to ruin others who she perceives as competition. One can only hope that her ruthless, deceitful way of doing things doesn't harm the ibogaine community any further. She has tried to profit from some of the most vulnerable people around and under the guise of "therapy" uses people, steals their money and engages in sexual exploitation with clients. She should be shut down and put into prison for a long time.
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sakara 11/17/2010 10:09:00 PM
and timothy leary thought lsd could cure drunks---and gays...! and then there's cocaine in the 1970s----in the 1970s cocaine was considered to be NON addictive!
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bb ravioli 11/17/2010 8:22:00 PM
It's true, ibogaine can affect drug recovery but this journalist had some wool pulled over his eyes and Ms. Wilkins could use a fat pie in the face. Exposure is coming, coming like a tidal wave.
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stryder simms 11/17/2010 5:46:00 PM
I took ibogaine about 10 years ago for spiritual purposes. I know at least a dozen other people that have. None of us were addicts. I hadn't used any drugs for at least 10 years prior to that, but it perminently relieved me of some negative mental and emotional habits. The trip lasted 36 hours. Afterwords I slept about ten hours and woke up feeling great. I did not go back to a full schedule for about ten days because I was advised to let the experience sink in. That was good advise. The trip was profound and even traumatic at times, but I always felt safe and sane even through the rough spots. Ten years later, the experience remains a hallmark of my spiritual life. Unlike one of the people quoted in your article, I wasn't washed with love or told that I was endless, but there were many enduring personal lessons that came to me. I am sad to hear they want to take the trippy quality out of the drug. The hallucinatory aspect was extremely valuable to me. Sounds like one more quest for a lucrative patent. As for the deaths. There are far more deaths attributable to the pharmaceuticals in people's medicine cabinets than those 19 attributed to ibogaine, but they keep taking them without question. I read recently that the bwiti cult in Gabon actually administers ibogaine to the dying in preparation for their journey. I distinctly remember, when I was under the influence of ibogaine, a voice in my head instructing me, "these are the things that most people learn right after they die." If it were available to me, I would definitely consider taking a dose of ibogaine on my deathbed. Thanks for the article.
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ARON PIEMAN KAY 11/17/2010 5:25:00 AM
ibogaine is the cure to hard drug addiction...we the yippies have been talking about it for years......check out www.cures-not-wars.org