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05/23/2012 2:53:00 AM
if you women were to have a BRAIN, you would certainly be VERY DANGEROUS. trying reading a good book on how to talk to men better, and change your damn ATTITUDE. you women certainly have a PROBLEM with us men. get rid of the SHIT DON'T STINK ATTITUDE, and since you think that you are all that, you really not. that is why us good straight men can't meet good women today. hey wait, did i say GOOD WOMEN? where the hell are they today?
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05/21/2012 6:34:00 PM
I find most of the comments from men regarding this article very odd and outdated ie "NYC women are self-absorbed, uneducated, have an attitude problem"?? Haha, no wonder we feel like there are no men in this city! I agree with the final statement of the article "It's figuring out how to balance what you want and what you can get—in terms of love, marriage, and what each guy has to offer—against all of the options, including the imminent biological reality of your decreasing fertility. It's figuring out if you care about your fertility at all, and if you care about it in light of being—or not being—married. Because at some point, it will simply be too late to have kids." This seems to be the realistic approach, along with the self-aware, educated, intelligent women of NYC learning to never settle until a man with similar strengths comes knocking on our door.
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05/21/2012 6:27:00 PM
Slutty? Deuge23, where in the world are you reading this article (there is no way it can be NYC)?
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Deuge23 05/01/2012 12:38:00 PM
This chick seems pretty slutty
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04/22/2012 5:56:00 PM
where i live, women have that attitude problem. and they think that their SHIT DON'T STINK. many women today are just so UNEDUCATED, very sad.
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04/12/2012 4:56:00 PM
if the women out there were like they were years ago, it would certainly be a lot more easier meeting them today. it seems once women's lib took over, they really have changed. it is very sad how GOD could make certain people have the luck to have met each other, and have a family as well. and the others like us, that would have wanted the same thing, have a problem doing so. i wonder why GOD made certain people so lucky, and not others like us. why are these people so SPECIAL?
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Ngbabe123 04/09/2012 6:07:00 AM
The question is where can I fnd a nice guy? I'm looking and looking but I don't find them :( maybe you guys say the same thing... I'm totally lost uggg
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Ngbabe123 04/09/2012 5:54:00 AM
Maybe, just maybe you are looking in the wrong areas, there are a lot of good women out there having the same issue you are having. Maybe you are superficial and that's what you looking for.
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Ngbabe_123 04/09/2012 5:47:00 AM
That's what you get when you look in the wrong places, many men stop calling a women because she didn't give them what they want it. I think in this situation we are even, we have a lot of low life men and low life women and this make more difficult for a good women to find a good man
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03/27/2012 4:28:00 PM
what a shame that there are so many rotten women out there now. it is hard for us straight guys nowadays to meet decent women today. there seems to be so many lesbians now, than we ever had before. this obviously will make it worse. cannot blame us men, for the LOW LIFE WOMEN that are out there now.
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03/26/2012 1:59:00 PM
women have become so very nasty today, why are you women so rotten today? you certainly do have a very bad attitude problem, that i have noticed. you women need to be be much more educated, and reading a book on how to talk too men better. just maybe, this will help very much. get with of the rotten attitude that you have now, then us good straight men can finally meet a decent woman today.
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03/25/2012 4:30:00 AM
I've seen NYC women with nasty attitude as well as NYC men who are disrespectful & perverse to the core...so I guess that evens it out. It makes me wonder if the nasty attitudes come from the females stems from dealing with sickos, psychos & pervs frequently, or maybe they were just born with pool sticks up their you know what. I've come across many men (young & old) in NYC who undressed me with their eyes, slurped when they spoke to me or made nasty gestures...on occasions when I try to walk away, some grab onto my hand! When a guy approaches me with such a "hot & bothered" attitude or in a rude/uncultured manner, that rules out the potential date aspect of it b/c it automatically gives me the impression that he approaches every female like that! Dating in the city? Definitely not the easiest, but it's doable!!! It's also kinda unreasonable to generalize an entire city based on the actions or attitudes of some.
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Billyvoodoo 03/23/2012 4:08:00 PM
Im single ex fireman in great shape positive attitude a gentlemen considerate surf kiteboard handsome carry a conversation creative educated free spirited dont do drugs or drink......trouble with NYC woman they are so self absorbed dont see a good thing when its right in front of them...I just moved here and the attitudes of the woman dont make it easy to meet them...open your eyes ladies
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Jenny Smelyanets 03/23/2012 3:26:00 PM
Best article I've read on dating in NYC. Not that I read a lot of them, but I don't need to look any further after this. I'm 26 and moved from Cali a yr ago. Totally related 100% to everything that's written here. Almost feel like I wrote it. Thanks so much for the perspective, Jen. Ha, we even have the same name. Funny.
- Jenny
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03/19/2012 6:14:00 AM
Yep. You're right. He is. And he should ... Good call. I don't think that your average openly gay dude would expend as much energy being so anti-wimmens ... it would save him a lot of stress were he to just go out on his terrace nekkid and announce it to the city. Go ahead and do that, then come back and let us know how you feel ... g'head ... we'll wait ... :o)
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03/17/2012 7:10:00 PM
first of all, you are a piece of shit for making a comment like that to me. for your information, i am a straight guy and your a filthy diseased infested LOW LIFE LOSER. bur in hell, with the devil.
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03/16/2012 4:54:00 PM
instead of repeating someone's other comment, you women are so horrible to meet anyway. very nasty, uneducated women in the world we have today.
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:51:00 AM
The male population spent centuries telling women how brainless they were and how they didn't need them for anything more than "marital duties" and housework, now they're complaining the women want to be loved and respected as people, not just bodies. They want everything on their terms; the female spirit is badly wounded and it will take decades to heal., Start acting more like gentlemen and they might act more like real ladies?? We need a change for future generations.
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:41:00 AM
I don't wanna waste my heart and body but most important of all time and energy with nyc men. Don't get me wrong I don't mind dating or possibly having a serious relationship with a nyc guy but sex outside of that definite not. Not only that but men in this city are quick to upgrade from one girl to the next faster than upgrading iphone every year.
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:33:00 AM
do women even care anymore what men want? It's not worth it to marry a caucasian male in New York or in most american cities; maybe it never was. Now, women - who have been excreted upon by this culture for several centuries courtesy of misogyny - are realizing that white north american males constitute only a tiny percentage of the global population of men; there are so many attractive men out there from all over the world who will actually treat you like a human being, so why put up with the belching ford when you can get a sleek, resplendent toyota? Indeed, why put up with all the malodorous stuff that men in this culture shove at you? Women in our culture see what happens to other women in bad marriages; they see good women sexually harassed and discriminated against in the workplace; they see and read about instances of spousal abuse, rape, and murder; and they endure a popular culture that ridicules and disparages women and treats them as if they were/are just bodies to be used for sex. Go to a web site like this and you will hear all about how malignant "evil white women" are and how all young women are skulking gold diggers; we have a whole pick-up artist community devoted to nothing else. And then, after all that, men want to know why women don't want them? Women have made a decision that they would rather be happy than to simply do what you want them to do so that YOU - and no one else (not the kids, certainly not the spouse) - will be happy; in short, women have decided that they would rather live their lives with contentment rather than give away those years trying to keep up with your every childish caprice.
bye, bye men: you've bitched and moaned and connived and deceived and manipulated your way right out of the marketplace.
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:25:00 AM
the united states is a hell for women; it is the ultimate misogynistic society, as these comments prove. Children and women, in that order, are after-thoughts compared to the wants of a (white) man.
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:23:00 AM
And why exactly were you so bound and determined to date a white woman? If you're a man of color, what's wrong with women of color that you weren't interested in dating them?
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:17:00 AM
I think that the biggest problem is that men who are average-looking, of average personality and intelligence, and average earners at best, have distorted views of themselves. They are probably the biggest jerks as they try to date only girls out of their league who are just after guys on the same level. Someone like him will probably never get married because they are enjoying their options just too much. Of course, those "options" are really just for average girls, not beauties, although a lot of those men don't realize this until it is far too late in the game...
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:12:00 AM
i have no sympathy for the arrogant, stuck up, pretentious men who complain about a lack of good girls...what these men really want is a girl with a 9 or 10 face and figure..when they get rejected or dumped they complain bitterly that women suck...i know lots of nice girls but we are chronically single and we get put in the dreaded "friends zone"...to be honest i am glad men are complaining because all men want is material B.S.
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WorksBothWays 03/14/2012 9:09:00 AM
It is also a tough scene for most girls. Women who want to get married are looking for an attractive man of character who will add to their lives. The problem is that a man like this is hard to find - many men completely let themselves go and essentially take themselves out of the marriage market. Also, a lot of men are extremely selfish and only think about what they are getting out of a potential relationship and don't even seem to realize that they need to provide something valuable in return to the woman. Also, a lot of men are total manwhores and that can be an enormous turn-off for a woman looking for a potential husband - no woman wants to marry a man who has been with 50+ guys.
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KayDee33 03/14/2012 8:55:00 AM
ITA.
Also, in support of what you said about career, I've found it's true that men these days expect women to be doing well financially, too. More and more men won't consider dating a woman who doesn't meet a certain minimum income requirement. Even research studies show this trend to be on the rise.
In addition, we really do have to focus on career because not every woman is going to get married and become part of a two-income couple. Even women who get married may find themselves with a husband who's not the primary earner, and some married women will later end up divorced.
My point here is that you shouldn't beat yourself up for pursuing a career. On the contrary, you did exactly the right thing.
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Blueskies 03/14/2012 8:27:00 AM
"How else do we explain the well documented fact that the majority of divorces are now initiated by women?"
The person who files for divorce is not always the person who called it quits on the marriage. Just as often as not, the man cheats or walks out or simply treats the woman poorly for a long time. Sometimes she files first because the man just won't. No formal stats on this, but I've observed that men more often than women have a certain inertia about formally ending a marriage, perhaps because of the money and custody issues that are sure to follow. Some men seem happy to remain legally married even when they've long since checked out physically, emotionally, or both. Women, I've noticed, seem more apt to get the ball rolling legally once the relationship is over. But that does not, by any means, indicate that the failure of the relationship was more the woman's fault than the man's.
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Miralee 03/14/2012 8:14:00 AM
Articles like this make me sad because they perpetuate the stereotype of the flighty, frivolous single woman who's either too much of a gold digger or too addicted to "drama" and "passion" to settle down with a "nice guy." And, yes, that IS a stereotype; this article is not the revelation that it would like to be. We've all been treated to this version of single New York women in countless chick lit novels and rom coms, including the TV show she cites here, Sex and the City.
I don't know any of these women. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know them personally. All the women I know have (or had if they are now married) a very clear idea of what they want in a man, and it doesn't include "drama" or unrealistic amounts of money.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can share my own experience, which starts with a couple of good relationships in the suburbs and ends in the total failure of every relationship I attempted in the city. I moved to the city because that was where the jobs in my industry were, not because I wanted to find a different kind of man. And the men I found in the city really weren't that different from the men I'd known in the suburbs except in one important way--none of them wanted to commit to a relationship. This was in contrast to the men in the suburbs, who seemed to just assume that after dating happily for a little while, a relationship would follow. Not so with the city men, who bent over backwards to be as noncommittal as possible.
All I can say is I didn't suddenly change or change what I was looking for. But the men I dated in the city clearly operated very differently from the men I'd known in the suburbs. Since I was able to have several positive relationships before moving to the city, I don't think the problem post-move was suddenly me.
This is all anecdotal and just one woman's story, so take it or leave it, as you will. But mine is not the only such story I've heard, and while I'm sure there are some indecisive city women like the author of this article, I suspect there are many more city men who know the pickings are good and have no intention of giving up their options, either.
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03/09/2012 7:34:00 AM
Who is this "Jen" you speak of? OH! The WRITER?! Dude, do you actually think SHE reads these? Bwahahahahahahaahahaha!
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03/09/2012 7:31:00 AM
I have no words. No words other than "Bravo Csj777!" Your observations are SPOT ON! You are not alone! And many of us are (or have, in my case; I am finally married to the most wonderful woman in the world for whom I had to wait 48 years and 2 failed marriages) travelling far and wide to learn what you have so succinctly stated. In my case... to Italy. As many would say today: "OMG ..." There's just no way to describe how FUBAR America's women are ... it's sad, but there is still hope: "Look elsewhere." There ARE good women on the planet ... you just have to look harder because many of them are now ... oh, nevermind - you know what I mean. Good luck, Csj777!!
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NYC Guy 03/09/2012 5:45:00 AM
Jen, there are a lot of broken, jaded hearts in NYC (mine included), no doubt due to the distraction of "options..." But after only a handful of dates, my best friend's (now) wife was diagnosed with cancer. They fell in love at Sloan Kettering over several days of hospital chicken broth quizine between catheter bag changings. Both had experienced the full catalog of NYC dating experiences - the expensive dinners, the hamptons weekends, the quaint, charming coffee shops, the zzzzzzzzzz.... Both young. Both successful. Both had innumerable options. The point - neon, billboards, skyline, celebrity, Zagat, Guggenheim, wealth, (again) zzzzzzzzz = we (New Yorkers) become inured to the pangs of meaningful human interaction and thus, of pure fantasy, overestimate the emotional reward of relishing in that greener grass, when in fact the very fields that unite us are more often barren. NYC will perhaps one day be a great anthropomorphic quandary: Why were the NYC 2000's blog entities rampant with tales of unfound love given the enormously concentrated population of intelligent, ambitious, potential purveyors of provedence? Answer: Real estate maybe? It seems that since few New Yorkers had lawns of their own, they were unable to truly empathize with the reward of watering your own....they indefinitely looked across the proverbial fence.
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Csj777 03/08/2012 10:00:00 PM
I was raised by a single mother and have always supported equality for women, socially, politically, and in the work place. I was also raised to treat all women with respect and like ladies. Unfortunately, there are very few ladies that I can see under the age of 40 in this country these days. A fair number of the female 18 year old students I teach often speak loudly in the hall, in line in the campus coffee shop, anywhere, basically, of their meaningless hook ups with guys, often in cringe-inducing detail (I am socially very liberal and far from a prude, btw). Anyway, I am in my 30s and single after a long relationship, and after having met so many self-centered (as opposed to relationship, "us" centered) classless, American women, I now only date European women or really, women from any other country. I've realized that this IS an American "cultural-centric" thing, which becomes more and more obvious as I meet more women from various cultures (and yes, "modern" industrialized ones), i which women have achieved equality without having lost some of those traditioanl feminie qualities that most men continue to enjoy.
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Csj777 03/08/2012 9:46:00 PM
This strikes me as a very thoughtfully, on-target interpretation--from a man's perspective, for whatever that is worth. I think what was said of NYC men above, in truth applies to women much more so these days, not just in New York, but across the country: they "have unrealistic standards for what their lives should be."
How else do we explain the well documented fact that the majority of divorces are now initiated by women? The facil, incomplete answer is that women make more money today than in the past, and thus do not have to remain in unhappy marriages as was often the case in the past. While this certainly would explain a rise in female-initated divorces, it clearly doesn't explain why women surpass men in throwing in the towell on marriages. Could it be that they've been sold a "you can have everything" myth, or perhaps more accurately, "you deserve everything" myth, that just doesn't square with the facts? Seriously, every other woman's personal ad on online dating sites reads like a list of demands from a bank robber, while saying very little about what the woman will bring to the table themselves. I echo the writer here in suggesting that pop psychology, a HUGE industry in its various forms (tv talk shows, magazines, self help books, etc) , which women tend to be far more steeped in than men in America, has been a key factor in the growth of "me firstism", which of course is never presented this way, but rather as "loving yourself first", "self esteem," etc. And while no one can doubt the importance of having a sense of basic self worth, I believe that what purports to be "self esteem" and "loving yourself" often can serve as a convenient rationalization for narcisiticv outlooks and actions--not just among women of course, but among society as a whole. As a teacher, I see these self-oriented attitudes among young men and women increasing with each generation--and I am only40!
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absolutely right 03/06/2012 2:18:00 PM
women have become so very hard to meet nowadays, judging by what i see, women are not really looking to meet men the way they use to. their attitude and personality has changed dramatically. more and more women are just so nasty to talk too. i am a straight man that goes out everyday of the week, because having no one to stay home too really sucks. when i was married at the time, i obviously had her to be home with. when she cheated on me it hurt me very much, knowing i loved her very much at the time. i never ever cheated on her, because what i had at home made me very happy and i did not have to go out looking for it anymore. like i have said before, being single and alone does really suck now especially that many of my friends are settled down and have their own life together. i never realized that there are so many rotten no good women out there today, with that very bad attitude problem that they have. of course, meeting a good woman for me will be hard now because of the way they have changed now.
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Chicolate 02/22/2012 7:40:00 PM
The female population/media has spent decades telling men how worthless they are and how we don't need them, now we're complaining the men only want to hookup and not commit. We want everything on our terms; the male ego is badly wounded and it will take decades to heal., Start acting more like ladies and they might act more like real and gentle-men?? We need a change for future generations.
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02/21/2012 7:07:00 AM
Really? You met a "niece of a friends friend" in NYC at a concert? Really? You do know how much that sounds like the standard urban legend "a friend of a guy who used to work with a guy I know" 'n' degrees of separation, right? Or, maybe, "my girlfriend lives in Canada" used by more than a few less-than-successful young teenage boy ... You know, I'm starting to think many of these screwy comments to this girl's goofy piece are from the same PERSON, maybe even her AND that you and I are the only two people leaving comments here! Can I "unsubscribe" from the "get comments in my email" that I shouldn't have clicked on?
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tele29 02/19/2012 3:29:00 PM
Well, I just read this whole article and it helped me understand new york women a little more. I live about an hr and half from the city, right over the border in PA, over new years I went to the city for a concert with some friends and wond up meeting a great girl who was the niece of a friends friend. We clicked great and had a blast. The next weekend she wanted me to come visit her again, which I did. Again we had a great time! After the second time hanging out with her I really liked her. Havent felt that way in a while, I just really liked her. We have fun together and seem to want the same things in life, marrage, kids and the white picket fence. As a few weeks went on she started texting less and I started texting more.. It was fading, and I was bumming bad.. She admits the new york dating scene sucks. I didnt know what to do.. I know how the dating sucks there to and hate that she doesnt want to give the "short" distance thing a shot.. IDK.. Just venting here I guess.. Any thought?
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In2765 02/19/2012 5:15:00 AM
So, in a nutshell, this article is about greed.
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02/15/2012 4:37:00 PM
it is so true, many women today have become very rotten and have a bad attitude. we are just too good for them anyway, the way i look at it. good luck.
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Mutaal2012 02/14/2012 8:16:00 AM
Why do women have to constantly dog men. Some men are bad just as some women are bad. There really isn't a need to write yet another book dogging men. There are a lot of good guys out here that totally get slaughtered by women because we "too nice". Why not just write about that says "If you want drama, find a jerk. If you want to get married, find a nice guy".
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Mutaal2012 02/14/2012 7:52:00 AM
Hi Frank,
I'm 35 year old straight black man and I feel the same way in Boston. Women are just so nasty unappreciative and are then always complaining about how horrible men are.
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VG 02/09/2012 2:20:00 AM
I just want you all to know i love all of you. One day you will meet that person who won't overlook you.
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02/01/2012 3:40:00 AM
it is very hard to meet women anywhere, let alone in new york city. i am a straight man in my late fifties, that was married at one time. now that i go out a lot, i seem to meet the nastiest women with their no good attitude. what is up with that ladies? why are you women so mean and nasty today? do you hate men? are many of you lesbians? i have to certainly blame you women for this, i cannot blame myself, because i am a straight good average man that would like to have a good straight woman in my life again. can't blame me for that can you?
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Mahamud700 01/30/2012 10:32:00 AM
which girls want's to have sex
try me
i am free
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You Are Gay, Admit it 01/30/2012 7:39:00 AM
Perhaps the fact that you feel it is necessary to write "I'm straight" and then "I was married twice" in the same sentence in an apparent "See! I'm not gay and here's proof - I was married twice!" is an indicator of the reasons why: 1. You divorced them both 2. After they cheated on you 3. *They* are filthy whores 4. Now *all* women are "nasty" and tell you to leave them alone, etc. NEWSFLASH: They are not filthy pigs ... you are GAY. You'll be surprised how much more you like these women once you admit that.
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ElisaYouAreScary 01/30/2012 7:29:00 AM
1. If you're looking, you're doing it wrong.
2. "... I didn't want to wait that long ..." there ya go.
3. Pssst ... there's a thing in Italy called "a different culture." It's different from yours.
4. If you lived in Italy for 7 years and went away w/the "view(s)" you apparently have, that means you lived here for 7 years and only saw it through the eyes of a tourist ... after 7 years? I hope the husband you trapped and settled down with is happy, I'm sure you are since you were "serious about getting married" like I used to be "serious about purchasing the best motorcycle I could find." Wow, you're scary.
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Elisa 01/28/2012 3:37:00 PM
Oh please.. I lived in Rome for 7 years- those men aren't going to marry American women! I could barely get a Roman to be my boyfriend. They would whistle at you alll day and night and tell you what amazing eyes you have and how gorgeous you are, but when it comes down to it, they just want to get laid and think American girls are easy (thanks, study abroads!). They are great self-esteem boosters for sure and will wine and dine you plenty, but they don't want to get serious (unless they're older and even then..) Meanwhile, they all live at home with their mammas, and as much as they complain about Italian women, that's who they are going to marry, not a foreigner! I moved back to America to find a husband and settle down- the Italians don't get married until well in their thirties and I didn't want to wait that long. They can also have girlfriends for years and years without living with them or marrying them- if you're serious about getting married I would most definitely advise AGAINST moving to Italy! It is still my favorite place in the world, I certainly enjoyed the Italian boyfriends I had, but they are immature and Not marriage material! All depends what you're looking for..
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PhishingVictim 01/24/2012 10:30:00 AM
Dearest Gallo,
I am so glad to have found you again! Imagine finding you in this long long email thread having nothing to do with the frozen 14.2 million GB pounds held in frozen assets in a trust in Zurich!! Amazing!! In regards to the US $500 I sent you as legal processing fees to assist in releasing this money, I have heard nothing from you about my share which you said was to be 50%. Also, the account information I sent you which was to enable you to deposit that money has also caused an issue because my bank tells me that my $40,000 has disappeared. I know this can't be so ... can you help me?
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01/24/2012 8:50:00 AM
Dear Norah,
Am Ibrahim G. Woche, from one of the most marginalised ethnic minorities of kenya and working with the samilar communities to improve their well being through a Non govermental organization. Am looking for a perfect single from NYC who shall not marry me alone, but also join me in this humane course to improve marginalised and disregarded ethnic minorities in africa.
I have a feeling that you and I can fit into that perfection and hope for your positive reply, otherwise advice me accordingly if there are similar ones loke you in NYC
Best regards
Ibrahim
EMAIL: gollowoche@yahoo.com or kenyaminority_forum@yahoo.com
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01/23/2012 4:51:00 AM
Jen, you are certainly a doll. I love your piece. I did the NYC dating game for years! And "Ughh" every woman entering NYC with hopes of finding her true companion needs a manual to get thru the do's & don'ts of the NYC Dating Game, so I wrote one! And I think you'll appreciate the title: No More Dating Pigs - You Are What You Date!
I promise you there are plenty of good men out there and true love does exist - just DON'T Date the Pigs : )
~Norah Marler
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01/21/2012 9:49:00 PM
You, my dear. Have the WORST sense when it comes to dating... So your having drinks with the guy that puked on you? Wow, your a keeper... =\
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hi there 01/21/2012 4:29:00 PM
This is my favorite:
".... not at all the brutes we've made them out to be, even if they don't want to marry us"
Why would any man want to marry someone who thinks so little of them? It's amazing to me
how little western women really understand men. All their information is based in Opera and Dr. Phil - and they just want your eyeballs.
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Michiamobambi1 01/21/2012 8:11:00 AM
You're just mad cause you tried the whole only-in-town-for-a-week thing and couldn't even get paid escorts to lay you
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Jnk2224 01/21/2012 1:29:00 AM
Wow, "Sex in the City" is back. Great stuff. I enjoy tales of women who pick and choose from a line up of men by evaluating their possitives and negatives and guys who date a women simply because they can have sex. I think you are too obsessed with yourself! What you need is a connection with someone that becomes more important than what you think you want. You need a person that you can't stop thinking about...not a person you want to analyze. If you're not open to that, you'll never find love from a menu of choices. If you're in your 30's or 40's and you've never had that kind of attraction to someone, it's certainly not the opposite gender's fault. If you have but you passed on that for other goals, then you have made your choice...again no one's fault but your own!
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so very much true 01/19/2012 8:17:00 PM
as a straight man that was married twice myself at one time, meeting a good woman again is very difficult for me. even though this happened to me, i still would love very much to meet another woman for me again. but hopefully the right one for me this time around. my first and second wife both cheated on me, and i never cheated on them. they turned out to be real filthy whores, and had i known that in the first place i would have never married them to begin with. it was certainly no fault of mine, and i was just too good for them in the first place. but now meeting a good woman for me is hard, they are very nasty and have a very bad attitude as well. it is hard to even start a conversation with them because, they will tell me to leave them alone and sometimes they will even curse at me while walking away from me. it seems most of them now are just filthy pigs, since there are many women out there now that are lesbians. they are without a doubt a disease, that seems to be spreading out of control now.
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guest 01/18/2012 5:34:00 AM
Douchenozzle.
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Mystee_reyne 01/14/2012 5:06:00 AM
Yeah, but the guy in question who wants Jessica Simpson, doesn't make anywhere near 250k. Neither is he good looking. So at near 40 yrs old, is he being realistic?
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John 01/13/2012 7:28:00 PM
"There was the dashing Argentinean only in town for a week" - Who would want you anyway you fucking slut? Please, just become an escort. It's all your worth...
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Myster 01/13/2012 7:48:00 AM
I make more than 250K and my wife is 14.2x better looking than Jessica Simpson ... the two people you have destined to "be alone" may just do okay ... it's never over 'till the fat lady sings, right? And SHE's not too bad a date, either!
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01/13/2012 7:34:00 AM
Both NYC men and women are to blame. Pretty much guys are guilty of doing the same thing they accuse the girls of...being exclusively picky and only seeking the superficial. For women, this amounts to seeking guys with money. For men, this amounts to seeking only striking or very beautiful women. No one wants a financially destitute person, especially if you are stable yourself. And no one wants an unattractive person, especially if you're attractive yourself. But some men and women have an extreme standard. I've heard women say they need a man making atleast 250k. And I've seen average looking, short men demand that a woman look like Jessica Simpson. Both these people will end up alone.
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GreenHornet 01/12/2012 6:19:00 AM
Dude, women have issues with Asian guys everywhere. As a matter of fact, I can't believe they let you comment on his article! HEY! WHO LET THIS GUY IN HERE?!
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Matisse Vendetta 01/12/2012 5:52:00 AM
Nope, *the* most "Decent calibur" (sic) ladies are in Europe. Everyone reading this should immediately go find a copy of Lenny Kravitz singing "American Woman" ... twice maybe.
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Matisse 01/12/2012 5:48:00 AM
WELL! I *must say* that is a *very* well done piece of spam!! Not "boilerplated," almost personalized! Spam nevertheless. But such "refreshing spam" that I'd almost look for this bar you are spamming for (are you the OWNER or a waitress/bartener or something like that?). HOWEVER ... I repeat: Tired of the NYC crap (men OR women?)? COME TO ITALY. Okay ... 'nuff said for this month. :o)
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Kim 01/11/2012 8:24:00 PM
if you ladies are looking for a successful business man who's dedicated to his work as well as caring to you, you should follow my footsteps! i came across this article awhile back because i know what it's like to be a disgruntled customer in the ny dating world. some of these men will just drive you nuts. and they did me and that line is so true to story... there are no good men in nyc! for a good part of my life until recently, i had just given up on the whole thing
about a month ago, i went to this happy hour on 48th n lex at this place called lexington brass, and met literally THE most amazing guy. total 10. pace business grad, dark hair, dark eyes, accounting... amazing.
anyway they're doing a meet and greet thing at lexington brass every thursday nights and i figured i just met the man of my dreams there so why not throw it out there for my fellow girls trying to find love! if you ladies are in the market that's the place to be seriously! lots of guys hotties in some suitssss!
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Sarot 01/05/2012 9:57:00 PM
Complaining about not dating or getting married doesn't get a lady a date. Complaining is a big turn off for most guys. I used to go to single groups in churches in Charlotte NC. There are twice as many single men as ladies in the area. Ladies if you want a nice moral decent guy move South! All you got to do is be nice- chat with the guys- and they will ask you out. Don't sit there and complain about your "dating" or lack of dating life. Guys perceive you as desperate and run away from you.
Why do the women think they have to congregate in NY city to make a life for themselves? What's so great about New York? High crime rate- very expensive- it's damn cold up there! We have good size cities in the South- Atlanta is nice. Houston is nice also and you don't have to wear thermal underwear! And there are corporate jobs in these cities also. Why is money such an idol to you gals? Do a job you like and forget about the fame monster. Money and prestige don't bring you happiness.
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Kirstenhyer 01/04/2012 1:12:00 PM
You are part of the problem with the single scene bullshit in NY.
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x45rt 12/31/2011 2:45:00 AM
I noticed that the article didn't add the race factor. There are a lot of women in NYC that won't even consider a guy solely on his race (Asian guys).
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Muma80 12/26/2011 2:11:00 AM
You can't say all NYC women are sluts! Sorry! People here just don't know how to communicate no more , and also maybe if they would not use so many drugs and drink like there is no tomorrow would be much easier to find each other
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Brad4143 12/18/2011 1:09:00 AM
Personally I dont rank anyone but I must say a good percentage of women want that bad boy like the one mentioned who fell a sleep drunk under the bridge. So you get the bad boy then cant deal with him a year down the road. And at the same time these women reject the good men and cant figue out why they keep having relationship problems. Whatever...everyone is responsible for their own happiness you cant depend on the opposite sex to make you happy. You have to be happy with yourself first.
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Brad4143 12/18/2011 12:54:00 AM
So whats wrong with being happy and single. He has a great life. You think he wont attract women in So Cal your wrong. Your just one of those man haters.
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12/13/2011 7:59:00 AM
True indeed. I don't wanna waste my money but most important of all time and energy with nyc women. Don't get me wrong I don't mind dating or possibly having sex with a nyc chick but a relationship is definite not. Not only that but women in this city are quick to upgrade from one guy to the next faster than upgrading iphone every year.
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Onhousehunt 12/11/2011 6:47:00 AM
You are such a pompous %#^*++^^#?!
Only beautiful women are successful b that's why they're hired? Give me a break douche bag.
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12/11/2011 12:31:00 AM
I could go in two different directions from this one. one; no intelligent guy that has any level of value would spend all that money in a cold and miserable city with the intention of meeting or committing to a woman of any decent calibur. Most Decent calibur ladies are in LA pursuing modeling /acting/performing while chasing professional careers. simultaneously as they are extremely energetic and aggressive. They maintain their bodies competitively, are independent, and focused on their career, rather than looking for a guy who pays for dinner, invites them to their expensive condo/house. A smart woman finds an attractive guy and works toward the goal with him over time. no intelligent guy with everything already wrapped up is going to just let a girl walk into the picture or just going to hold on to a girl because she's attractive or independent. She must be the top scoring chick as well if she wants a top scoring dude.
TWO; if a dude is actually in NYC/manhattan pursuing his career and working hard toward his goals, he's not going out spending what's left of the budget after rent has been paid, and he is probably putting considerable amount of years of time into his career and then moving to a more suitable location, or getting setup through friend networks with someone of exceptional quality. He's not out f'n around with just any girl that happens to be out. Most guys that do go out once in a while can smell a gold-digging bitch miles away, and will f her like the bitch that she is for as long as she'll take it and move on. Girls, you need to learn to be ladies that f like champs, work like champs, and socialize like champs instead of bitches looking for an easier more fun way. "sweep you off your feet" is a dream that you paint in your imagination. you have to work for it and earn it, and really work with your man in unison to achieve it. Its friendship, and friendship is always a competition to be the better friend! Who can give more? You're always competing with your friend to be the one that gives more, and if the relationship is right, you're always trying to give more, because you feel like you get more than you give, and there's a certain kind of negative conscience that goes along with that feeling. If you're always taking, you're going to get stiffed in the end. Finally, in closing, if you find a guy you're attracted to and enjoy hangin out with, it shouldn't be because he pays for dinner etc., but because you enjoy his company. You should have your own money to pay your own way, and cover your own expenses. He will get there eventually. some people don't start with the world in their hands; they have to work toward their goals and earn it over the years. if you don't have the patience to deal with that, you 'll miss out on a great dude, that when he's forty, he'll have the body, the looks, the money, and the career, and will be f'n the young hotties because he can, and if there's a young hotty that has the drive to be successful, she wins. Its pretty much that simple. Patience, and understanding. you put your time in or you don't. Guys have no choice than to put their time in. girls think they can screw around with everyone until they get lucky. Let me assure you, it's not about luck, its about work ehtic. It all boils down to work ethic.
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Brad4143 12/10/2011 11:04:00 AM
There is a lot of truth to this. Most men dont want to deal with those issues and dont want Long term commitments like marriage. It's a losing deal for men.Why even take the chance.
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Brad4143 12/10/2011 10:48:00 AM
I think the sad part for these women is when they reach there forties and fifties. Most available men in that age group will be after the twenties and thirties women so there will be an even smaller pool of available men.
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Kingofnyct 12/05/2011 6:37:00 AM
guys only have one filter: slut and non slut. If we like you and respect you, more than the other girls and you're not a slut, you're a keeper. It's that simple. That's about as far as male thinking goes
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Kingofnyct 12/05/2011 6:27:00 AM
all my happily married guy friends are with women from out of state. Pretty interesting!
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Kingofnyct 12/05/2011 6:25:00 AM
this article is really funny. The first paragrpah talks about how many men she has slept with and had relationships with and then wonders why she is single. Any self respecting quality guy would never give this girl a chance. Nyc women are sluts and no eligible guy would marry one this is the real reason these women are single. They are narcissistic and no one respects them. Ladies close your legs and get over yourselves you really are nothing special. Furthermore most of you are successful not because you are worth anything it's because the boss hires good looking women
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12/03/2011 4:40:00 PM
I prefer those out of town white girls who flock to nyc for work, they have there head on there shoulders compared to native born nyc women who have constant baby father drama. I don't mind dating or having protected sex with a nyc woman however I don't wanna be in a relationship with a nyc woman. To many single mother women here in nyc and that takes out a lot of fun and privacy in building a relationship. Also to many nyc women are caught in materialism and independent women mantra. A lot of women here are picky, they may want a cute guy who is a closet gay or a guy that's a hedge funder and sees other women on the side its real sad. It looks like I'm gonna have to move to the Midwest or the west coast to start a family. Thank goodness at my age that I don't have a child with a nyc woman because like most women here in nyc they will send you to court for chid support.
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Heartbroken and Sad, NYC 12/02/2011 1:08:00 PM
..........Is this for older people? What about early-mid 20s? I find it hard to have a relationship, but I'm just picky...I had one relationship and thought I'd marry him, we talked about it, but he was ten years older...turns out he is a commitment phobe just like the rest...or maybe it was me. Then again, what did I expect from a guy dating someone so much younger? That'd I'd be so charming and smart and young and pretty enough to be his last conquest? I think he thought for a few months I would be...but then he grew bored or it just got too hard or...who the heck knows. I feel so done. I know one relationship is nothing, but I feel too scared to try again. I've always been careful about men and only dating the ones I'm crazy about. I don't want to settle but I don't want to be alone...how come it's okay for men to end up alone?
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11/21/2011 3:25:00 PM
Boy am I sorry that I missed *this* reply ... server replication, issues, perhaps? Regardless: WELL DONE! I actually sat up in my chair and uttered the word "Woah!" Congratulations! You validated my initial impression of you (based on your reply - perhaps thumbed on a BB or some other cellphone-typed gadget?) *and* showed it to be incorrect simply by fixing your "bad spelling and grammar." Is it possible that you might agree with me that it has a detrimental affect on how seriously people take you/your words/opinion(s), etc? So don't DO that anymore. People are calling you names when you do - really.
NOW: to "the article." Point/Counter-point? That's not how I see it. From what I remember of the article (which isn't much at this point; your magical change in spelling-capability is MUCH more interesting). She's just "wrong in my book." And I'll enjoy 'arguing' with anyone who disagrees with me. :o) I don't have to explain why, she just *is* and so are they. I can even sound *more* arrogant: I know, without taking a poll or even ASKING anyone that there are countless others who agree with me. It's a generational thing, it's a geographical thing, it's a 'based on my experience thing' and best of all: it's my *right* to be that way. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) I decided to REPLY in this freakin' forum and you replied (with crappy spelling, blah blah blah ...). But I'm okay w/that!
RE: the article (what was it about again?): I'm poking fun at the writer because of your choice (C). I understand her view(s), I just don't feel like thinking about all the reasons she's wrong because I could be doing so many more enjoyable things like looking for other people's comments and replies to comments to pick on and mock.
RE: people (like you *used* to be) who can't spell or use grammar appropriately: (notice I didn't say 'correctly') I'm pretty sure that I don't mock people who can't spell or who unintentionally hack up English grammar a bit worse than "using a preposition to end a sentence with which I shall not put" -- so I'll go with choice (C) there, too. THANKS AGAIN!
P.S. My "opening term of endearment:" I use "dear" in its spoken form, too. And I'm occasionally spoken to by women who find it offensive. Sorry. I don't intend anything offensive or chauvenistic there ... I think it sounds nice. So, do you think I choose to live in another country other than the U.S. means I feel inferior to somone or something or maybe because I'm running from someone or something?
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11/21/2011 9:18:00 AM
To support and defend "proper spelling and usage of good grammar" is a valid endeavor in any language and in any country or locale w/their own language. By pointing out your mistakes I am using a version of "The Thumper Rule" which states: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Otherwise, my opinion would often be, as in your case, very hurtful and rude. I'm sure you feel there is something about this article that is worth discussing. I do not. I no longer *care* about the article and, as a matter of face, I don't remember what it was ABOUT any longer. If I may, though: "My opinion" is that you should pay attention to your spelling, etc. You are one of those folks who comments A LOT ... OFTEN ... FREQUENTLY ... a frustrated editorialist or politician,maybe? We (your readers) can't tell that you are simply indifferent to punctuation, proper spelling and correct grammar nor do we realize that your great intellect is greater than the need to be able to clearly express it. Unfortunately, your indifference makes you out to be "ig'nant 'n' disedjumacated." People can't take you seriously and I - specifically - have fun poking at crappy spelling -- and stuff. Peace out, yo! :o)
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Emacz 11/20/2011 8:47:00 PM
In life, YOU either have the things you want, or the reasons you do not.
I have a good deal of respect for the author of this article because it holds women accountable the the 'reasons you do not' part. All in all, it is a very simple concept and this article points out very valid issues. Stop believing "everything happens for a reason". My own improvement on this quote is that "Everything happen, and then it's up to us to give it a reason." Woman, what you say you want out of life is emphatically contradicted by how you go about doing it. I can't decide wether you actually think your methods are proficient, or you are just to stubborn to admit they are not.
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Emacz 11/20/2011 7:57:00 PM
Every idiot with nothing valuable to say about a reply simply points out grammatical error. Which by the way if we are playing that game, I have been operating under the impression that:
Sorry.
is a fragment lol. UR DUM, wen u form a valid opinion and hav a reasonable point to argue, then respond;: until then leeve my speling alon ;)
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Emacz 11/20/2011 7:51:00 PM
LOL.
Again, this is such a common response for people who truly have no ability to form a cogent response. In both your original post and your response to my post, you do very little, if any debating. You meerly attempt to paint a picture of someone who is not qualified to have the opinion you disagree with. This tactic is typically employed by political candidates of the weaker side in order to discredit someone without ever actually refuting a point. Furthermore, If you disagree with the idea that a person mocks what they desire subconciously as a defense mechanism, you are either a sociopath, or live underneath a rock somewhere. There are three reasons a person mocks something: (A) they do not understand it (B) they envy it (C) they genuinely disagree. So until you provide a valid counter-point, dismiss me all you want, but your decorated personal descriptions just highlight the fact that you have nothing valuable to say in response to this article.
P.S. Opening with a term fo endearment, "Dear" is a transparent way of establishing the upper-hand, something only someone who feels inferior does.
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Guest 11/18/2011 10:13:00 AM
the united states is a hell for men; it is the ultimate gynocracy. Children and men, in that order, are after-thoughts compared to the wants of a (white) woman.
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Guest 11/18/2011 9:59:00 AM
do men even care anymore what these women want? It's not worth it to marry a caucasian female in New York or in most american cities; maybe it never was. Now, men - who have been excreted upon by this culture for several decades courtesy gender feminism - are realizing that white north american females constitute only a tiny percentage of the global population of women; there are so many attractive women out there from all over the world who will actually treat you like a human being, so why put up with the belching ford when you can get a sleek, resplendent toyota? Indeed, why put up with all the malodorous stuff that women in this culture shove at you? Men in our culture see what happens to other men in custody battles; they see good men falsely accused of sexual harassment in the workplace; they see and read about instances of paternity fraud (justin bieber, say hello); and they endure a popular culture that ridicules and disparages men and treats them as if they were/are witless nullities. Go to a university campus in New York and you will hear all about how malignant "evil white men" are and how all young men are skulking sexual predators; we have feminist studies departments devoted to nothing else. And then, after all that, women want to know why men don't want them? Men have made a decision that they would rather be happy than to simply do what you want them to do so that YOU - and no one else (not the kids, certainly not the spouse) - will be happy; in short, men have decided that they would rather live their lives with contentment rather than give away those years trying to keep up with your every childish caprice.
bye, bye ladies: you've bitched and moaned and connived and deceived and manipulated your way right out of the marketplace.
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11/15/2011 9:23:00 AM
Dude, I read this comment of yours right after you posted it ... I'm *STILL* laughing. Priceless. :o)
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11/15/2011 9:21:00 AM
EUROPE is where I suggest anyone go if you're looking for anything. :o) If anyone is pretentious, they are in the minority. It ain't Sodom and Gomorra (sp?), but it *is* a place that has been around for a few thousand years more than NYC has, and is therefore a bit more ... how might you say: 'je ne sais quoi?" OR! If you can't get to Europe, hang out at the international arrivals terminal at the airport and stalk anyone you want while they visit your city. :o) ... just sayin.
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Hydrabadchik 11/15/2011 6:35:00 AM
Yeah, NY is a tough market for EVERy area of life. No matter what it is, if it's hard everywhere else, it's 2 or 3 times more complicated in ol' NYC.
I tell my female friends to search in other states for long term relationships. Not because there are no good men in NYC. Of course there are. But we outnumber men - advantage to guys. And there are just many more young, slender women here.
Then the definition of 'good' anything is just more intense here.
At the same time, what you really mean is: HOT women were ignoring you and you were too good for anything other. Plenty of us who are overweight, ethnic, plain, are more than open to guys who look brazilian. Your 'genuineness' is not to blame. Your filter was on high but you complain that theirs was too high.
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11/15/2011 12:05:00 AM
Lived in NYC 12 years. Out of those 12 years I never knew any women there. My life in New York City was horrible. I tried to talk to women but as always I was ignored. It always came down to $$/Job and my nationality/ethnicity. Once downtown a girl talked to me her first question was, "are you Brazilian". My answer was no but before I could fill her in on my background she turned her back to me and walked away and talked to a white guy. That pretty much sums up my nyc dating experience. So when I read articles such as this one I am confused as to how there can be so many 'single woman' in new York when no one would give me the time of day. No one wanted to know me or anything about me. It's the worse feeling in the world to be rejected without a chance. Rejected based on nothing or the superficial. But that is how it goes. I am 36 years of age, unmarried and single. I haven't had a true gf since 2007. Sadly I am often judged. Just like the girl downtown did to me. Always assumptions and judgments before I can open my mouth. So these days I am working hard on my departure from the usa. This country has no room for high functioning men. I guess in most women's eyes we are just creepy losers to be rejected. 20+ years I get the message. I have always had bad luck with women in this place. I don't understand articles like this one. From my perspective nyc women don't want any 'good' men.
Though I do blame myself, not them. having the courage to be yourself as a man is hard work. Not living life in the mold others have set for you nor speaking to women using lines. I never used lines and I never tried to be anything other than who I am. But in this country that is a crime and I am to blame for being genuine. The liars, cheaters, users and deadbeats are the men who get women. They can make a million mistakes and always be excused. Look at Jesse James!
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11/14/2011 6:00:00 AM
Sorry. I would be remiss if I did not point out (since she cannot speak for herself) that Cinderella spelled her name differently than you spell it. Damn; You - 0, Cinderella -1.
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11/14/2011 5:58:00 AM
I didn't dismiss this article, dear. Had I dismissed it, I would not have commented as often as I did. I *am,* however, dismissing you. But I thought I'd have the courtesy to let you know (otherwise I'd have ignored your skewed little peabrain, as well). ONE NOTE: "We mock what we desire subconciously?" ... please. Do not speak (or write) about that which you do not know. Congratulations on your adequate spelling and sentence structure, however! That's refreshing.
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11/12/2011 6:10:00 AM
Did you try black guys??
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Maxxedout12 11/12/2011 3:16:00 AM
Inferiority complex: 1 This article: 0
Like most people who make flawed arguments about something they disagree with, your dismissal of this article speaks volumes about you. You offered absolutely no rebutal except a personal attack on what is obviously a fabricated stereotype of someone you could imagine writing this. This is easily the most comprehensive and articulate depiction of modern feminine delusion. If you really disagreed you would have indicated some specific areas you disagree with, or issued a point rebutting this completely, but you did neither. I am actually willing to bet you have no apposing argument, and that because you can not stand to agree and/or admit when something is done in a fashion better then you could have done yourself, you degrade it. It's like calling the tall person a freak or the skinny person anorexic, we mock what we desire subconciously so that we can live without it. So I reiterate, your inferiority complex: 0 this article 1
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Maxxus1234 11/12/2011 3:03:00 AM
You may have missed 8th grade english, but the thesis of a story is not always the opener, and the 'point' is not always the closer. Since you probably read page 1.. Skipped ..5, or at least read alarmingly fast because your attention span is little, you missed the entire point of the article. This is by far the most cojent and reasonable depiction of the modern cindarella complex I have ever read.
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11/09/2011 3:31:00 AM
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Hydrabadchik 11/03/2011 4:26:00 PM
James isn't protecting anyone's honor. He's just calling the lopsided non-logic as he sees it.
ALL women are whores and sluts? By nature? Nature thrives on variety - The law of averages is part of what keeps us alive as a species.
Are we to believe you're some kind of expert on all kinds of women - even when they're not part of your culture? Not part of your age group or race?
The kind of women darktruth describes exist - but not in the numbers he says they do.
And no, I don't have to slam women with multiple partners to gain credibility as not living that life myself.