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Instead, Tyler keeps talking. He tacks an awkward PSA to the front of "Radicals," Goblin's straight-up hilarious "Break Shit" moment, which he caps with the empty provocation "fuck Bill O'Reilly." "Radicals" empties the political connotations of that term but keeps the shell, filling it with the more flexible signifier drawn from skate culture. It's like Tyler saw how "Fuck you/I won't do what you tell me" devolved in a flash from molotovs to Jager bombs, and thought it the perfect branding opportunity. (If only "Kill People/Burn Shit/Fuck School" hadnt already been perfectedwith a catchy tune, no lessby Alice Cooper nearly 40 years ago.) When the meds kick in at song's end, you can almost see him drowsily punching the air as he conks out after his tantrum.
Goblin's highest points and most infuriating moments come from the fact that it's a vérité depiction of the worst aspects of American boy culture. You know, hating girls because they don't like you because you're a weirdo, hating any and all authority figures because they try to tell you how not to be such a weirdo. But most importantly (and scarily), there's the part that involves lashing out about being viewed as a weirdo, and being summarily rewardedi.e. seen as normalfor doing so. (It probably goes without saying that girls don't have the same luxury.) Nobody cares about Tyler the Creator being someone's role model in 2011. Which in a way, is the scariest thing about Goblintoo much of his scary fantasizing, for too many boys, is all too normal.
This review is idiotic and imbecilic. He clearly says that this record is not made for old, white people like you. So shut up and review The Dave Matthews Band or something.
15 minutes of Fame are up. Tyler is still very much a confused teenager who doesn't know shit about the world which to me is annoying as fuck.
Young Tyler makes raps middleschoolers at daycamp make to impress themselves. It is all excrement, excrement, excrement. And yeah a lot of the rhymes are clever and really funny but no more so than anyone else's. So no genius. It IS however a bit of an antidote to 40 year old millionaire entertainers faking they are still ghetto thugs whiile tricked out in luxury apparel. In the end after Tyler cashes in it will just be the same old rap dog chasing its own tail. But what does it say about the White Order that it is fascinated by a young man of African descent who has an act built on rap's mainstay, the pretend sociopath? Slavery in this culture isn't over.
You PC critics are a bunch of jokes. Since when was rock, punk, and hip hop not misogynistic? Oh yeah, don't forget jazz, classical and everything else. Jay Z and Kanye made a career out of it. Biggie and Tupac, Wu Tang Clang, all of them. Nirvana, hey, Polly want a Cracker? Black Flag? Sex Pistols? That name alone is misogynistic; plus Sid killed his girlfriend; Syd Barrett beat women, and Kurt Cobain beat his wife. And the list goes on and on of so called PC writing that the VV delivers. You go to church or something?
Great point about the over-explanation/disclaimers - it's to the point on the album where any social commentary (or anything that can be perceived as social commentary, at least) is almost made redundant by his "this isn't real!" ramblings. It's a Lady Gaga "my performance is so loaded with symbolism" moment. Or maybe subtlety is too much to expect of acts out to be popular. That said, I think there are some interesting ties between Angry Boy America and family/social breakdowns and pressures, which might not be new but does seem on purpose, as opposed to generic misogynistic/homophobic rappers. Then again, his media calls of "I'm just a kid having fun, not thinking about that shit" when asked about his 'irreverent' name-calling is pretty boring - dude, if you're old enough to recognize it, you ain't a kid no more, just like the rest of us.
For everyone saying this is the new face of hhip hop, I disagree. Fashionista, angry, punk rappers have been around for the past couple of years. Tyler is the only one to garner the biggest buzz. While I enjoy some of his work I can't get behind all the hype. And I couldn't listen to rap songs that go over seven minutes. Hopefully he will evolve into a dope lyricist and songwriter who doesnt need to have lines just for shock value to impress his boys.
Pretty on point, but I still think everyone's reading into this too much. They're baiting you, like Howard Stern or Eminem used to do. Nothing original or particularly compelling to see here. Their 15 minutes will be over soon... and if not, I look forward to making fun of their dumb fans for years to come.
I know that most people don't care anymore and that they are going to curse me out for saying this stuff. No wonder this country is messed up, when people listen to this kind of music with profanity, sexual garbage and violence, they think it is all right. First of all don't give me that crap about freedom of speech, freedom of speech is not about behaving or acting like this, if the founding fathers who wrote the freedom of speech found out that it would end up like this they would be devastated. When I look at the kids today they all have filthy things coming out of their mouth with no respect for anyone, sleeping around with everyone, no wonder half of them are suffering from STD's and other sexual diseases. This kind of crap has to stop, again I know you want to curse or beat the hell out of me, but I know that there are still decent people out there who think that this kind of stuff Is wrong and it is wrong. We have taken freedom of speech and threw it in a toilet ball with raw sewage swimming around it. The way society is going the way it is (Lack of respect, STD's, Violence, Divorces, anything goes and nothing is wrong any more) imagine how bad it is going to be in another 25 years, we have to change our ways and become decent with high morals or this country is going to go down. Again I know most of you reading this don't give a crap and are laughing at me really hard, but that's the truth.
After hearing all the hype a couple of months ago, I tried listening to one of his songs, and while I found the music compelling, the misogyny in the lyrics was an immediate turnoff, so I probably won't bother. I overlooked in lots of hip hop I've loved in the past (Biggie, Dre, Tupac, etc), but I think I'm done. Too old, I guess.
Clearly the album worked if you're so conflicted about it. Odd Future is punk music. That's all. Re-fucking-lax.
It's fairly obvious that OFWGKTA ain't for everyone. It sure as fuck ain't for Steve Harvey, oops I mean Eric Harvey. I can say without a doubt that, much like my girlfriend, Eric worships crap bands like Arcade Fire, Vampire Weekend and annoying shit like Mumford & Sons. While this music may have some rebellious relevance in the dormitories of overpriviledged sorority chicks, let's face it, it's music for people who don't give a shit about music. Odd Future, despite the vulgarities and shit that obviously annoys Prince Eric here, is the new face of hip-hop. Sorting out whether or not every lyric is pc or not might be fun for some douchebags, I for one don't take it so seriously, and instead LIKE IT. Eric, please stick to writing reviews for bands that don't need it like Phoenix and The Shoegazers.
This review seems like it was written by someone with no knowledge of what Odd Future are about or what Tyler stands for. Ironically there's a line which addresses this EXACT thing on 'Goblin'.
If the reviewer had properly listened to Tyler's first album Bastard, 'Her' would not come as a surprise. Take a moment to listen to 'Inglorius' or 'Parade' for some deeper themes about not having a father and growing up, respectively. Then maybe his "maturity and range" wouldn't come as such a surprise.
Presumably the "repugnant misogynistic bullshit" in 'A Clockwork Orange' also ruins that book and movie for the reviewer too? And you sure as hell have never enjoyed a Tarantino film.
Not a bad review overall, but really, please listen to the back catalogue and do some research on an artist before
Whenever the 'indie-rock' 'cutting edge' 'trendsetting' 'taste making' magazines and blogs spend too much time analyzing a rap record then the sales are never worth a shit.
dude made mad money and his crew are coming out with major label albums too ... its not 15 minutes ... more like a few hours ... it aint up either
Thank you! I'm a little behind in actually looking into OF due to run ins in the past with crap articles like this, but better late than never. This guy really hasn't done the research and I'm almost certain that if he had, he would have written a different piece.
The first song I heard was 'Tamale' and I was basically just like what is going on here and then when it slows down and he explains his thoughts on his father, basically everything after that has made sense. After being inundated with horseshit lyrics in hip hop for almost two decades, I'll take the exaggerated misogyny because at least there's some meaning to it here. Anyone with two brain cells can tell this is commentary- and they should listen. Want to know the ramifications of growing up fatherless in a world dominated by the internet? Well, here you go.
Honestly, The Notebook did more to disparage progressive ideas about women than Odd Future EVER will. Frankly, I'm tired of hip hop artists talking about having tons of money & bitches on their FIRST SINGLE. Did you sell fucking real estate before or wtf? Poo pooing on Tyler's standard grade teenage insecurities (oh you don't like me, well I never liked you anyway!) just because he exaggerates the later (presumably just because and maybe because fuck you), doesn't leave me with much respect for the author.
The only reason Tyler keeps trying to explain himself is because dumb articles like this keep being written. Very few people create content just to create content. Apparently even less know to take it for more than face value.