I saw them the other night at the Echo in LA. I came to see Lydia Lunch. They were the first opening band. They try way too hard to act like they don't care and are too cool for you. It was forced and bland. Its like watching high school kids playing dress up and pretending to tell funny in-jokes with each other. Musically they want to play no wave, but have no intensity in anything they do. Some songs almost came together, but were ruined by how awful the singers are. Sorry, but the whole being bad on purpose thing is stupid. Dull as hell. Fortunately, the rest of the evening was amazing.