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So one-sided that it nearly validates what the Right says about Hollywood's liberal crusaders, Oliver Stone's essay/lecture/travelogue South of the Border is propaganda in the form of a home movie, documenting Stone's summer vacation spent in the collegial company of the figureheads of various South American states.
About 10 minutes in, the iconic filmmaker appears onscreen for the first time alongside Hugo Chávez, the charismatic, controversial leader of Venezuela. This is not a sit-down interview; the filmmaker isn't directing questions at Chávez, or apparently directing much of anything—they're just hanging out. Afforded extraordinarily casual access to Chávez, Raúl Castro, the Kirchners of Argentina, Paraguay's Fernando Lugo, and other heads of state, Stone generally allows his subjects to set the course of conversation, avoiding not only the tough questions about their records on human rights and allegations of corruption, but also pretty much any question that might get in the way of each leader's sales pitch for his regime, or the notion of the U.S. as the big, bad man holding them down.
Stone and Chávez seem especially palsy-walsy: They kick around a soccer ball, kick it on Chávez's private jet, and casually shoot the shit about how Chávez is a misunderstood man of the people, unfairly demonized by the media. Later, when it's mentioned that Lugo owes money to the International Monetary Fund, Stone cracks, "Chávez will loan you that if I ask him." His crush on Chávez is such that he avoids interrogating not only his politics, but also his demonstrated tendency to pitch those politics via a kind of over-the-top comic public theater.
And yet Stone raises the specter of media manipulation when it suits him, devoting a whole section of the film to sympathetically presenting Chávez's argument that during the failed coup attempt of 2002, the Venezuelan media were so in the tank for his political opponents that they edited footage of rioting in the streets to make it look as if Chávez's supporters instigated a fire fight. The construction of false realities for political gain is the subject of much of Stone's own work—so why is he content to take each leader's practiced-for-the-camera spiel at face value, never pushing for information or conducting interviews on any deeper level than a photo op? South of the Border's subjects are masters at cooking bullshit, and Stone just eats it up.
This review is hysterical. I've been laughing for the past 5 minutes. You've missed the point. You claim he "avoids not only the tough questions about their records on human rights and allegations of corruption, but also pretty much any question that might get in the way of each leader's sales pitch for his regime, or the notion of the U.S. as the big, bad man holding them down," in the process confirming your own occidental condescension. The film is imperfect, I agree, its points, however, quite valid. And instead, you choose to wallow in your own western imperialism. Good job!
IS THIS A REVIEW OR A CHARACTER ASSASINATION? TELL ME IF YOU AGREE WITH THE POLEMIC BY ALL MEANS BUT YOUR FOX NEWS TYPE REVIEW WILL MAKE ME WANT TO SEE THE FILM MORE NOT LESS. YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF BIAS CUT NO ICE WHEN DELIVERED WITH YOUR SHRILL SHRIEKING ASSERTIONS OF LACK OF BALANCE.
Oliver Stone Still Doesn't Get It By Larry Rohter One month ago, I incurred the wrath of Oliver Stone for stating the obvious in an article I wrote: his new movie South of the Border, ostensibly a “documentary” about Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez and a group of supposedly like-minded South American colleagues, is so riddled with errors, misrepresentations, fabrications and fraudulent statistics as to be useless except as an example of over-the-top propaganda. At the screening for the movie that I attended, I counted more than two dozen assertions that are demonstrably incorrect, but chose, in the limited space available to me, to focus on but a handful. Stone’s response wasn’t long in coming. Though he had acknowledged and apologized for several of his mistakes in a pair of interviews I did with him before writing my fact-checking article, he changed course as soon as the piece appeared, circulating an attempt at a rebuttal while also launching a smear campaign against me and my work with the assistance of sympathetic pro-Chavez solidarity groups and websites. To hear them tell it, I am a CIA agent, coup supporter, racist, coup denier, “tool of the corporate media,” reactionary and defender of rapacious multinational companies. One “solidarity” website went so far as to suggest I be assassinated, and I suppose that if I had looked hard enough, I would even have found myself accused of beating my wife. All of this is nonsense, of course, a diversionary tactic meant to draw attention away from further discussion of the manifold failings of Stone’s film. The same goes for the written claims, full of indisputably false assertions, which Stone and his two screenwriters, Mark Weisbrot and Tariq Ali, have sent to a number of news organizations and websites, including HNN. I don’t intend to test the patience or limited interest of readers with a point-by-point refutation of Stone’s letter here. But it is worthwhile to examine a few of his more egregious errors and specious claims, because they say something about the way he and his associates think and work. In my original article, for example, I pointed to the film’s erroneous contention that “the United States imports more oil from Venezuela than any other OPEC nation.” In fact, that distinction has long belonged to Saudi Arabia. But rather than admit their error, Stone and especially Weisbrot, who as the principal screenwriter is responsible for the bulk of the most glaring mistakes, have shifted position several times, trying to redefine what years should be taken into account and whether the standard of measurement should be “oil,” as stated in the film, or “petroleum and derivatives,” their fall-back position. None of this attempted sleight of hand changes the bottom line. No matter how Stone and Weisbrot try to twist the numbers, they continue to be wrong. Here are the official statistics comparing U.S. oil imports from Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, compiled by the U.S. Department of Energy and expressed in thousands of barrels, for every single year since Hugo Chavez came to power in 1999: YEAR S. Arabia Venezuela 1999 506,272 419,893 2000 557,569 447,736 2001 588,075 471,243 2002 554,500 438,270 2003 629,820 431,704 2004 547,125 474,531 2005 527,287 452,914 2006 519,236 417,001 2007 528,189 419,180 2008 550,276 380,419 2009 360,934 352,278 Weisbrot is an economist, not a historian, and apparently not a very good one. Either he is so incompetent that he can’t read a simple table or he is deliberately manipulating the numbers. The latter seems more likely, since reputable economists have chastised him for such lapses in the past. For example, Francisco Rodriguez, a Venezuelan who once was chief economist for the Venezuelan Congress and now teaches at Wesleyan University, has written a scathing paper called “How Not to Defend the Revolution: Mark Weisbrot and the Misinterpretation of Venezuelan Evidence.” In it, he notes that “Weisbrot’s critiques are generally invalid, relying on erroneous reading of the evidence or use of severely biased indicators,” which is exactly the problem here. In the face of what is uncontestable evidence, Weisbrot is now attempting to argue that his mistake is “irrelevant” or inconsequential. This too is false, for at least two reasons. First of all, this effort to bend, twist and distort irrefutable statistics about oil is indicative of a reckless disregard for the facts that is much broader and, in fact, pervades all of South of the Border. If Stone, Weisbrot and Ali can’t get even the simplest details correct, why should any filmgoer or scholar believe any of their other assertions? More importantly, the notion of Venezuela as the chief source of OPEC oil for the U.S. is a fundamental building block in one of Stone, Weisbrot and Ali’s larger and more important arguments. In the movie, Hugo Chavez is quoted as follows, speaking of himself in the third person: “The coup against Hugo Chavez had one motive, oil. First, Chavez, oil. Second, Saddam, Iraq.” Stone endorses and furthers this idea by saying onscreen that “the same strategy as Iraq was applied to the upheavals in South America.” In reality, the reasons for the April 2002 coup that briefly overthrew Chavez remain a matter of intense dispute even now. Opposition groups and Venezuelan military officers contend that they acted because Chavez was making an unconstitutional power grab and may have ordered troops and his own supporters to fire on unarmed protestors. In an effort to shift the focus from that counter-argument and snooker viewers who have not followed the rise, fall and resurrection of Hugo Chavez, Stone and Weisbrot have had to inflate Venezuela’s declining global importance as an oil producer. A second leg of this same argument is that Chavez incurred the wrath of the United States and the oil industry because under him “the government got control of the oil industry for the first time,” a phrase Stone repeats more than once in the film. This too is false. Venezuela nationalized the oil industry in 1976, when Carlos Andres Perez was president, and folded all foreign-owned companies into a single state-run entity. But Hugo Chavez despises Carlos Andres Perez, who jailed him after Chavez’s failed coup attempt in 1992, and never passes up a chance to undermine his image or attack him. As Chavez’s faithful stenographers, Stone and Weisbrot merely parrot Chavez’s argument, without bothering to check to see if it is true. It is not. South of the Border is riddled with other errors and misinformation like this, but Stone and Weisbrot refuse to acknowledge them. They continue to insist, for instance, that Chavez’s main opponent in the 1998 election was not Henrique Salas Romer, the former state governor who got 40 percent of the vote, but Irene Saez, the beauty queen who received a mere 3 percent. By that novel and bizarre standard, George Bush’s main opponent in the 2000 election was not Al Gore but Ralph Nader, and Ronald Reagan’s main opponent in the 1980 election was not Jimmy Carter but John Anderson. Their defense is to refer to early 1997, when Chavez and Saez were the only candidates of note. But the election was held in December 1998, not in January 1997, and in any case they never at any time mention Salas Romer, thus conveying to viewers the false impression that the election was from start to finish a contest between “beauty and the beast.” As far as they are concerned, Salas Romer simply doesn’t exist, but hey, never let the facts get in the way of a good story line. Speaking of Jimmy Carter, it’s worth noting that the non-partisan, international election monitoring commission that he headed issued an official assessment of the 1998 vote that is identical to mine and completely contradicts the characterization Stone, Weisbrot and Ali have concocted in South of the Border. It is ridiculous at this late date that the three of them are trying to rewrite history and challenge an assessment endorsed by all of the participants in the 1998 election, including Hugo Chavez himself. Here is the relevant passage from the Carter Center’s report: “The leading candidate, according to latest polls, was Lieutenant Colonel Hugo Chavez, a 44-year-old charismatic populist who was the most fervent in his commitment to make drastic changes in the political system. His major challenger was Henrique Salas Romer, a Yale graduate who also promised to change the existing political structure. Chavez had led an unsuccessful coup attempt against the incumbent government in 1992, was incarcerated, never put on trial, and later released by President Caldera. He seemed to appeal to a poorer constituency than Salas, and was feared by the elite establishment, while still enjoying some support from the business community. The other candidates seemed to rank quite low in the polls, including Irene Saez (former Miss Universe endorsed by the COPEI party) and Luis Alfaro (77 year old leader of the Accion Democratica Party.” In their letter to HNN and other websites, Stone and company complain that “Rohter was presented with detailed and documentary evidence of the United States’ involvement in the 2002 coup” against Chavez, which they describe as “a major point of the film” that has gone unreported in the mainstream press. They complain that I “simply dismissed all of this evidence out of hand, and nothing about it appears in the article.” This is false. In reality, I examined their “evidence” thoroughly, and discovered that the document Stone, Weisbrot and Ali cite as the main proof of their argument actually contradicts and undermines what they have to say. Their claim is thus specious and disingenuous, at least on the basis of the “evidence” they provide, which is why no mention was made of this subject in my original article. But I’m perfectly willing to have that debate now, because it says something about how Stone, and especially Weisbrot, continually attempt to hoodwink the unwary viewer. In the movie, the image of the cover of a U.S. government document appears briefly on the screen as the April 2002 coup is being discussed. When I asked Weisbrot about that, he said that it was a State Department study in which State acknowledged its “involvement” in the coup. Specifically, he pointed to this passage: “NED (the National Endowment for Democracy), Department of Defense (DOD), and other U.S. assistance programs provided training, institution building and other support to individuals and organizations understood to be actively involved in the brief ouster of the Chavez government.” On closer examination, though, it becomes clear that Weisbrot is quoting selectively, simply cherry-picking parts of the document to make them conform to his otherwise-unsupported theory and leaving out those sections that do not fit. Here is the entirety of the statement from the State Department review of policy toward Venezuela during the period Nov. 2001-Apr. 2002 that Weisbrot quotes from: The Office of the Inspector General “found nothing to indicate that U.S. assistance programs to Venezuela, including those funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), were inconsistent with U.S. law or policy. While it is clear that NED, Department of Defense (DOD), and other U.S. assistance programs provided training, institution building and other support to individuals and organizations understood to be actively involved in the brief ouster of the Chavez government, we found no evidence that this support directly contributed, or was intended to contribute, to that event.” At another point, the same State Department policy review also explicitly addresses the Stone-Weisbrot argument that the United States government was “involved” in the coup and rejects it outright. Stone and Weisbrot, however, fail to cite any part of this section of the document, and I think I know why. They are engaged in the age-old practice that Latin Americans call “vendiendo gato por liebre,” or “selling a cat as a hare,” and it simply won’t do to introduce any evidence that would reveal their theory to be based on a manipulation of the facts. But here is what the same State Department study that Weisbrot cites as the foundation for this “major point of the film” actually has to say: 4. “Did opponents of the Chávez government, if any, who met with embassy or Department officials request or seek the support of the U.S. government for actions aimed at removing or undermining that government? If so, what was the response of embassy or Department officials to such requests? How were any such responses conveyed, orally or in writing?” Taking the question to be whether, in any such meetings, Chávez opponents sought help from the embassy or the Department for removing or undermining the Chávez government through undemocratic or unconstitutional means, the answer is no. Chávez opponents would instead inform their U.S. interlocutors of their (or, more frequently, others’) aims, intentions, and/or plans. United States officials consistently responded to such declarations with statements opposing any effort to remove or undermine the Chávez government through undemocratic and unconstitutional means. These responses were conveyed orally. Weisbrot obviously needs to go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of “involve.” Does he provide any evidence whatsoever that the United States was “drawn in as an associate or participant” in the coup? He does not. Instead he suggests a nebulous standard that, if applied in other situations, would work something like this: if I teach a course in finance, and a year after the conclusion of that course one of my former students robs a bank, I am somehow “involved” in the robbery. This is not just ridiculous, it’s also dishonest. The second half of South of the Border deals with a group of South American presidents who Stone argues are cut from the same cloth as Chavez and are part of a Chavez-led movement “away from the IMF and the United States’ economic controls.” But here too Stone, Weisbrot and Ali play fast and loose with the facts. Their treatment of each of the six countries they look at is filled with errors and misrepresentations, but I will confine myself to the one issue about which they were most dismissive in Stone’s letter to HNN: the attempted privatization of the water supply in Cochabamba, Bolivia. In my original article I pointed out that, contrary to what Tariq Ali claims, the Bolivian government did not “sell the water supply of Cochabamba to Bechtel, a U.S. corporation,” and did not pass a law making it “illegal for poor people to go out onto the roofs and collect rainwater in receptacles.” In reality, the government granted a forty year management concession to a consortium that included Bechtel, in return for injections of capital to expand and improve water service. Tariq Ali maintains I am “really reaching” because “for practical purposes” there is no essential distinction between owning a company and having a contract to manage it on behalf of its owner. This is nonsense. One of the foundations of any civilized society is the rule of law, which includes explicit definitions of ownership of property and other assets. When you lease an automobile from a dealership, you don’t own the car. When you rent a flat from a landlord, you don’t own the apartment. It’s as simple as that, and when a government grants you the right to manage a water company, you don’t own the company. The government does, and can terminate the arrangement if the managers don't fulfill the contract, which is what happened in Cochabamba. In the real world, anyone attempting to argue that “for practical purposes” there is no difference between a lease and a sale would be laughed out of court. I suppose it is not surprising that Tariq Ali, an editor of the New Left Review who describes himself as a “former” Trotskyite, should be fuzzy on concepts of private property, but is Stone and Weisbrot’s excuse? When I asked Tariq Ali the source of his information about the botched water privatization in Cochabamba, he said that he had heard of it from Bolivian activists at the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil. I was about to ask Ali, who actually is a historian and therefore ought to know better, why he hadn’t bothered to verify the information, when Oliver Stone impatiently broke into the conversation to complain that I was trying to “porcupine this thing to death.” But history is about nuance, and the devil is in the details. Stone, however, isn’t interested in facts or nuance: he wants only to tell a story, even if it is grossly inaccurate, that will draw viewers into the theater. President Obama spoke recently about those who suffer from what he called “willful blindness,” who are unable to recognize or admit facts that cannot be contested and instead spin elaborate fantasies based on cherished beliefs they cannot abandon. He was talking about North Korea and perhaps also indirectly about the Tea Party types who believe he is a socialist born in Kenya. But Stone, Weisbrot and Tariq Ali suffer from this very same disease, and their willful blindness has fatally infected South of the Border. They can attack me as much as they like, and I suspect they are likely to continue to do so, but that is just a smokescreen. Nothing, including insults and smears, can change the facts, one of which is that they have made a tendentious and dishonest film whose arguments collapse when subjected even to the slightest bit of scrutiny.
I find it fascinating that this so-called movie reviewer would tell on one hand that a movie like "Salt" is "unpretentious" when it is anything but (you want real women "action heroes?" Take the female police officer in Seattle who helped beat-up a man lying prone on the ground who had nothing wrong but mention that he was from Mexico, an incident caught on video, or was involved in the near-fatal beating of a homeless man--now that's "unpretentious"). In this film, the reality is that Latin American is a struggle between oppressive Euro-elites and the oppressed indigenous peoples, and Longworth is either completely ignorant of this fact, or is a racial bigot herself. Stone humanization of Chavez, frankly, is preferable to the demonization most white Americans apply to him.
Yeah right. When you don't like the politics, it's propaganda. Chavez has a vastly better record on human rights than the US government, which has killed thousands upon thousands of people over the last decade alone, not to mention Guantanamo etc etc... And his administration is far less corrupt than the bandits he replaced.
It is sad to see our rightwing brethren wearing their historical illiteracy and facile arrogance like a trophy. Other commentators represented facts well, not relying on invective to make a point, even offering empty minds the option to become educated as to the facts. Rick Tudor took pains to state correctly that the Village Voice movie critic--and our Teabag brethren--should watch the 2003 documentary The Revolution Will Not Be Televised. It's Spanish film crew had no idea that they were walking into a coup. The complicity of the Bush White House and the arrogance of the rightwing coup leader's TV broadcasts are in full view. This film will humble our rightist brethren into useful self-reflection. It highlights a common intellectual dishonesty and arrogance shared by knee-jerk rightwingers everywhere. BTW, the "Hitler got elected too" argument is an old staple of misdirection, dismissing the facts on the ground of the legitimacy of Hugo Chavez's election victories. Read some history of Hitler's "election". I respect KRL's comments, but calling Karina Longworth's spin political "analysis" undermined his position. Reading for righties? "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins.
This disgraceful "review" belongs in the NY Post or The National Review, not the (once-progressive) Village Voice. Please see Stone's rebuttal to the NY Times' Larry Rohter who wrote similar bullshit. And what's with all the fascistic trolls here, including the moron who called for a revival of HUAC? Fuck off, all of you. Latin America is no longer going to be the US's "backyard," and tough shit if you can't deal with it.
Dear Allan: Hitler was elected too. What is your point? Is it perhaps your way of justifying the carnage coming out of our own government as well as theirs? And what on earth makes you believe that any election is 100% uncorrupted and democratic? Please stop defending tyranny no matter where it occurs. I'd like to recommend the lectures of former KGB agent and defector Yuri Bezmenov on You Tube to anyone who wishes to better understand how free peoples are enslaved and free societies are subverted. You don't have to become a Tea Party member or a card carrying Conservative / Republican - just please, let's all keep informed so we may unify to preserve our freedom. And liberal friends, I beg you do not roll your eyes and dismiss these concerns for all our sakes.
Didn't we just uncover an extensive Russian Spy Ring recently? And weren't a married couple arrested last year for spying for Cuba? And don't we have quite a few people in this administration taking over industries and enacting far left policies? And aren't there too many Hollywood dullards singing the praises of Socialist Dictators? All this and radical Islam too. Bring Back HUAC.
Oliver Stone reminds me of all the socialist appologists from Walter Duranty to the present. Stone is a combination of Leni Reifenstahler and Joseph Goebbels. "Freedom of speech for me, but not for thee!"
So this big important documentary all Americans need to see is about a rich filmmaker hanging out with a rich dictator? I'm really glad Stone wasn't around during the Cold War...
Anyone else think Stone's new mustache is creepy?
All leftwing Hollywood entertainers need to immediately surrender all of their property and wealth and move to the socialist paradise of their choice.
Its amazing how the liberals who post about how Chavez is so generous with his countries wealth. I think they forget about how he seizes personal property and land on a whim and gives it to his cronies. But of course as long as it isnt your stuff its ok, right?? Typical. Never mind that he shuts off the power to whole cities at 10 pm and controls and restricts cell phone and internet usage.
Rick Tudor... Chavez is a dictator. There is no freedom in Venezuela now. You liberal-commies and your 'documentaries' as truth. An edited film as 'truth'! I'll tell you what's truth... no American wants to live "South of the Border"... yet many want to live in America. And I'll take Venezualan & Cuban expatriates' words over some "documentary film makers".
Am I wrong? Did I not see Obama hugging Hugo at a summit meeting last year? Lets face it. We have a spineless rat for a president. Paling around with murdering thugs like Hugo and vicious racists and anti-semites like Rev. Wright. Stone is a saint compared to our dunce of a president.
So Chevez amigos, what part of Democracy bestows the authority to jail political opponents? Mr. Tudor? And ????? maybe you could glamorize the FARC terrorist that Chavez aided and supported or shall I say, aids and supports? Well better run, I have to hurry and contact my relative in Caracas before the blackouts come. Hopefully the water rationing hasn't gotten any worse. Oh and Bobbo, hilarious !!!
Allan - Laughable, really. Saddam Hussein and Ahmedinejad were also "democratically elected". . . "several times". Bet you never met a dictator you didn't like . . . oh, except for George Bush, right? Bush, bad. But Castro, good (forget the jailed homosexuals, artists and journalists - they have universal healthcare). Stalin, well, he sort of misinterpreted Communism. Mao, good, but the Cultural Revolution went a bit overboard? Che, freakin' awesome and quite a hottie, too. You and Oliver Stone, sittin' in a tree . . .
It's amazing that any show of independence from Latin American leaders elicits such hysteria. I haven't seen Stone's film yet, but I have read that he primarily wanted to give an American audience more of a chance to understand what's going on currently in South America. The leaders Stone talked to have been democratically elected, some more than once. Calling them "figureheads" is a transparent attempt to dismiss these individuals as if they have no connection to their societies and can't possibly represent a legitimate position of opposition to American policies.
I'll stray from political debate here, because I too have done docu work involving Chavez and find Stone's touch rather soft with this material. My own opinions on these 'leaders' aside, I appreciate Ms. Longworth's incisive critique. A critic is supposed to take a stance on their subject and if Ms. Longworth's position involves some 'political analysis,' then her position is all the better for it. If you do not want political analysis from your film critics, then perhaps you should begin your chain of complaint with filmmakers like Oliver Stone who insist on putting political analysis in their films. In case you hadn't already guessed, I think this review is pretty spot on.
MPW: Rick - Your response does very little to address most of the specific criticisms in the review, but you write in a tone that suggests you think you've shot Longworth's review down. Unconvincing. MPW, Longworth's summing up final sentence says it all about her approach: "South of the Border's subjects are masters at cooking bullshit, and Stone just eats it up." My comments were not meant to address "specific criticisms" but, to note the overall sarcastic & critical "tone" of the review. And, that some of the "bullshit" was not cooked up.
Rick - Your response does very little to address most of the specific criticisms in the review, but you write in a tone that suggests you think you've shot Longworth's review down. Unconvincing.
The reviewer should watch the excellent 2003 documentary The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (and also read some South American political history before writing a snide review). It's well documented that Venezuelan media played a part in the 2002 coup, and did edit footage of the riots to use as propaganda against Chavez supporters. The explicit class hatred towards Chavez and Venezuela's poor is expressed openly by his opponents in the aforementioned documentary -they were even outraged that some of their servants were attending literacy centers to finally learn how to read. It's also well documented that the U.S. and the regimes it has supported and sometimes created is at fault for much misery in the region.
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